Hey all,
I recently bought my first PPC ever, the HTC Touch. Not very much later I discovered rlToday and designed a skin in Photoshop. Pi3cH coded it and I tweaked it some more. Besides rlToday I use S2U2, TodayShrink and PCM Keyboard.
The result can be viewed here...
For those who don't understand Dutch. Underneath the appointment is the task section (Total, Important, Today, Overdue)
Now I have some problems I can't resolve in rlToday. I saw Grump on this forum for example that made an app for the iPhone skin and I was wondering if some guys are willing to get this done for me as apps can do more than rlToday.
What am I missing and can't I get done with rlToday:
1) topbar should be something like iPhone or S2US style
No start logo but still its functionality when tapping the icon on the left, smaller than WM6 topbar and nicer icons for Wifi, BlueTooth and stuff.
2) Now I'm using Mortscript to get the appointment coming inside the screen, but I only get the first upcoming one. And if that appointment is now, the next one coming is shown underneath it.
I would rather always see the next y (2, maybe 3, or for the today and tomorrow for example) upcoming appointments along with the location (if available), rather than the 1st upcoming or current and next.
3) Get rid of the circle on the bottom 3 icons when the number of missed calls/new sms/new email is 0.
4) get a highlight effect when tapping one of the 3 bottom icons, just like TouchFlo Cube for example (see pic 6 at my rlToday skin of the Cube 6 app side I changed, it turns blue when tapped).
Just wondering if this is in any way possible, without having a slow and without battery/memory consuming.
No one that can help me out?
You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
5) To address your speed and memory concerns...I don't think WAD is that bad. It uses about 700-800KB of RAM. No noticeable speed down. If you or someone else builds a custom GUI it will most likely take up even more resources. But atleast this way you can get what you want with $20 worth of software and you have the option of customizing it any way you like in the future.
SeanFromSoCal said:
You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
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Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like.
I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
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Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
SeanFromSoCal said:
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
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My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
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Will take a look at that.
Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Focaldesign said:
Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like. I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Focaldesign said:
Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
SeanFromSoCal said:
Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
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I don't have WA3 so I can't try that...
PhoneAlarm won't do it for me I think. To many stuff that I don't want in that plugin (I see a load of icons, clock etc...).
Don't have WAD either, so can't try the bottom part in WAD neither.
when u have a number of today plug ins up and it goes over the screen limit the ugly (IMO) scroll bar come up could someone try and develop something to remove this and enable a touchflo like scroll of the today screen much like the iphone in this video :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFITXsB56Z4 in the first 7 or so seconds. thanks
Infuruno said:
when u have a number of today plug ins up and it goes over the screen limit the ugly (IMO) scroll bar come up could someone try and develop something to remove this and enable a touchflo like scroll of the today screen much like the iphone in this video :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFITXsB56Z4 in the first 7 or so seconds. thanks
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I have this idea also for a fue weeks now, this will be realy nice to see. Because now i dont have to many plugins on today screen because that scroll bar is so ugly and anoying. Let's see what can be done
I'd love it, too. I know that too many plug-ins on today screen will decrease performance, but I'd just love to have weather plugin or quick dial pictures just below the bottom edge. That would be fantastic, especially when used with FTouchFlo...So...pretty pretty please!!!
Hello,
My todayscreen is about 500 pixels long, so with the ugly desent bar....You gues
With severals programs you can change the value of :
Horizontal Scrollbars Width (2)
Vertical Scrollbars Width (2)
Then there will be juste a black line....the scrolling you'll do with FtouchFlo
Yeah - I use 'FTouchFlo' and I can scroll on the today screen with my finger (you will have to make the vert, scroll bar thin as above post).
So search for 'FTouchFlo' on these forumns.
Yeah,but scroll bar is quite useful everywhere else,isn't it? Well,at least for me it is...
sabestian said:
Yeah,but scroll bar is quite useful everywhere else,isn't it? Well,at least for me it is...
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not when you have touchflo I rarely use the scroll bars unless im using the stylus but even with the stylus I don't always use the scroll bars anyway i just want the today screen scroll bars removed or something .
But its nice to know if you've got anywhere to scroll to in the first place,right? I like seeing where I am in the list,that's what I use scroll bars for. Just information. Also,sometimes you've got small menus popping down (for example when choosing appointment time or something) when scroll bars can be useful.
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But its nice to know if you've got anywhere to scroll to in the first place,right? I like seeing where I am in the list,that's what I use scroll bars for. Just information. Also,sometimes you've got small menus popping down (for example when choosing appointment time or something) when scroll bars can be useful.
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well then you wouldn't install the program if someone developed it. I would prefer a scroll bar less today screen and so would some other's, its not all that useful to me. I never put items over the limit cose in my opinion they look ugly. and a finger friendly way to scroll through the plug-ins on the today screen.
I agree with sebastian. I like to see a thin scroll bar of width 12px in IE when I check my gmail. I like to see when I'm close to the bottom of the page so I don't have to waste my time scrolling right down to the bottom. It would completely disorientate me to not know where I am in the many lists in all the programs I use, or to know how may things there are in my list. Wouldn't it with you?!
SMS, Resco file explorer, agenda one, Adobe acrobat, word, pocket E-sword, and file browsers in all my other programs (like TCPMP, SPB Imageer which i use frequently) are all pretty much screwed when I set the vertical scrollbar to minimum length 2. Besides that black line is pretty noticeable and annoying.
What we need please is a SEPARATE scroll bar for the today screen. I'd donate straight away for that.
+1 to frenchglen
Edit: double posted! sorry
frenchglen said:
What we need please is a SEPARATE scroll bar for the today screen. I'd donate straight away for that.
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e x a c t l y
I second that. I would also like to get rid of the (IMO) ugly ugly today scroolbar. Willing to donate.
frenchglen said:
I agree with sebastian. I like to see a thin scroll bar of width 12px in IE when I check my gmail. I like to see when I'm close to the bottom of the page so I don't have to waste my time scrolling right down to the bottom. It would completely disorientate me to not know where I am in the many lists in all the programs I use, or to know how may things there are in my list. Wouldn't it with you?!
SMS, Resco file explorer, agenda one, Adobe acrobat, word, pocket E-sword, and file browsers in all my other programs (like TCPMP, SPB Imageer which i use frequently) are all pretty much screwed when I set the vertical scrollbar to minimum length 2. Besides that black line is pretty noticeable and annoying.
What we need please is a SEPARATE scroll bar for the today screen. I'd donate straight away for that.
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I only want a program to get rind of the today screen scroll bar not for evenything, an alternative i wouldn't mind is a program to make the scroll bar less that 10px which is the current minimum. what exactly do you mean by separate scroll bar?
What I (and I'm pretty sure the others) mean is:
We want to be able to scroll up and down on the today screen without an ugly scroll bar AT ALL (an invisible one),
But leave alone the normal scroll bar in all the programs we use. I don't want to get rid of that!
Besides, you can't make it invisible, the registry only allows it a minimum of 2px. To resize it, try SKTools or google/search the forum for the registry hack.
frenchglen said:
What I (and I'm pretty sure the others) mean is:
We want to be able to scroll up and down on the today screen without an ugly scroll bar AT ALL (an invisible one),
But leave alone the normal scroll bar in all the programs we use. I don't want to get rid of that!
Besides, you can't make it invisible, the registry only allows it a minimum of 2px. To resize it, try SKTools or google/search the forum for the registry hack.
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this is the reg hack:
To change the thickness of the scrollbars at the right/bottom of documents larger than the screen, adjust...
For the horizontal (bottom) scrollbar:
HKLM\System\GWE\cyHScr = 9 (DWORD decimal)
For the vertical (right) scrollbar:
HKLM\System\GWE\cxVScr = 9 (DWORD decimal)
The default thickness is 13. You can set the value to pretty much anything you like > if you dont wanna see it > 0
I would have thought with a bigger and better resolution display than the I-Phone the icon buttons on the Programs window would have been brighter and clearer. For instance I find it hard to distinguish between Notes and Tasks; Goggle Maps and Calculator.
Which is why I would like to ask why each icon is set in a black background on each button; and then in turn the buttions are on a black screen background.
Does anyone know of a way so that the coloured icon fills the whole button? Or maybe specs are the way forward?
weird, i dont have problems like that. Have you tried using glasses?
I thought I would see one more time if anyone has found a solution to this problem. in portrait mode, the black top and bottom menu bars are just fine. in landscape, however, they occupy a huge amount of space and make landscape, for example with email, not very useable. opera hides these menu bars which is great. has anyone found a way of doing this for other programs so that we can enjoy this fantastic screen?
I was just reading the latest gossip on Nexus phones. Saw a home screen shot of a page of icons and the icons looked slanted. Then it hit me - instead of swiping from screen to screen, what if the block icons (apps) just appear to individually rotate to the icon in that same position on the next page! Or put another way, the flat icon is actually a four sided box and only one side shows at a time. Swipe and all the boxes rotate to the next side you swipe toward. A widget would seem to rotate and morph into whatever is on the next home screen page!
That might look pretty 'fresh' compared to the current way of screen refresh we now know.?.
Sound promising?
So basically, like a Rubik's cube? Or am I picturing it wrong?
Yep. Looks like the icon of a specific app rotates as it was a cube. Are we right?