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Anyone with programing skills willing to help?

Hey all,
I recently bought my first PPC ever, the HTC Touch. Not very much later I discovered rlToday and designed a skin in Photoshop. Pi3cH coded it and I tweaked it some more. Besides rlToday I use S2U2, TodayShrink and PCM Keyboard.
The result can be viewed here...
For those who don't understand Dutch. Underneath the appointment is the task section (Total, Important, Today, Overdue)
Now I have some problems I can't resolve in rlToday. I saw Grump on this forum for example that made an app for the iPhone skin and I was wondering if some guys are willing to get this done for me as apps can do more than rlToday.
What am I missing and can't I get done with rlToday:
1) topbar should be something like iPhone or S2US style
No start logo but still its functionality when tapping the icon on the left, smaller than WM6 topbar and nicer icons for Wifi, BlueTooth and stuff.
2) Now I'm using Mortscript to get the appointment coming inside the screen, but I only get the first upcoming one. And if that appointment is now, the next one coming is shown underneath it.
I would rather always see the next y (2, maybe 3, or for the today and tomorrow for example) upcoming appointments along with the location (if available), rather than the 1st upcoming or current and next.
3) Get rid of the circle on the bottom 3 icons when the number of missed calls/new sms/new email is 0.
4) get a highlight effect when tapping one of the 3 bottom icons, just like TouchFlo Cube for example (see pic 6 at my rlToday skin of the Cube 6 app side I changed, it turns blue when tapped).
Just wondering if this is in any way possible, without having a slow and without battery/memory consuming.

No one that can help me out?

You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
5) To address your speed and memory concerns...I don't think WAD is that bad. It uses about 700-800KB of RAM. No noticeable speed down. If you or someone else builds a custom GUI it will most likely take up even more resources. But atleast this way you can get what you want with $20 worth of software and you have the option of customizing it any way you like in the future.

SeanFromSoCal said:
You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
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Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like.
I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
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Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
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3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
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My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
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Will take a look at that.

Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Focaldesign said:
Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like. I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Focaldesign said:
Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise

SeanFromSoCal said:
Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
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I don't have WA3 so I can't try that...
PhoneAlarm won't do it for me I think. To many stuff that I don't want in that plugin (I see a load of icons, clock etc...).
Don't have WAD either, so can't try the bottom part in WAD neither.

Today Screen Launcher IDEA.. please develop..

hi. i first posted this idea on the PointUI forum.. so forgive me for the blasphemous screen.. anyway.. i jsut want to share this idea for those developers, willing to create a scrolling today screen launcher..
click thumbnail for the animated demo..
the idea is, to create a launcher that is customizable (custom icons - TGA or PNG for transparency), scrollable, and FUN.. hehe..
anyway.. it's a simple horizontal swipe and scroll.. but the added feature of the - what i call - default pane..
the default pane should be a set of five shortcut icons (user configurable) that can be easily accessed from anywhere in the horizontal list.. how? double tap the space above the icons..
for example, you have a 16 icon horizontal list, if you are in the end of the list, and you have to go back to your default pane, just double tap the space above the icons, and the list will scroll back to your default pane..
also, there should be an option for memory or default..
the memory option remembers the last position of your launcher and remains where it is even after you launched a program or switched to another window..
the default view scrolls the list back to the default pane after launching a program or every time the today screen becomes active..
this idea could not just be a today screen plugin.. it can also be a launcher that can be called via screen gesture (FtouchSL/FtouchFLO).. the difference with this launcher, is if implemented, would just be an over-window rather than a full screen launcher.. it may also be a task switcher.. depends on the developers choice..
here's a quick demo..
[/i]click on the thumbnail for the animated demo..[/i]
once again, this is just an IDEA.... for someone else with the programming prowess..
i'm just good with photoshop and ideas. but binaries and hexadecimals kill me..

Good idea..i hope some one develops it...u can try Throttle launcher

Where did you find the picture?
Have you done it by yourself?

look into ultimatlaunch also... very similar to what you are wanting

with customize icons and wallpaper... wold be good.. and a feeds infos too on the clock and events apperance

the upper part of the picture/animation is the PointUI Home interface.. no credit for me with that..
the bottom part however is mostly my creation.. (the icons used were modified from bundled stardock icons for windowsXp)
i created the bottom part and the application launcher ribbon as an idea suggestion for the developers of PointUI..
a bit inspired by the leaked wm7 pix and the iphone springboard hacks they created over at cre.ations.net
i don't really like PointUI that much (YET, but i'm getting there), so i also suggest the idea as a native Today Screen plugin.. and an all around launcher.. a minimalist approach, compared to the touchFLO cube and it's encarnations..
i don't like ultimate launcher that much.. i'm not into Tabbed launchers.. too much space consumed..
throttle launcher looks cluttered at the moment.. too much things are rendered on screen at the same time.. it takes up much time loading and, again, screen real estate.. i'm still eyeing for its future improvements though.. especially if it will be able to get customized, as in, to be able to select the features that will be loaded, and will not..
it's not likely that all people want to see a big clock, a bunch of contact pictures, all of the shortcuts, and running programs cramped in their screen at the same time..

Would be awesome...good idea buddy.

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throttle launcher looks cluttered at the moment.. too much things are rendered on screen at the same time.. it takes up much time loading and, again, screen real estate.. i'm still eyeing for its future improvements though.. especially if it will be able to get customized, as in, to be able to select the features that will be loaded, and will not..
it's not likely that all people want to see a big clock, a bunch of contact pictures, all of the shortcuts, and running programs cramped in their screen at the same time..
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they have a single line launcher now, it the same thing you ar requesting. I'm also keeping an eye on them i think the single line can be a nice addon to every rom. (but it has to be easy customiseble)

If you combine Ultimate Launcher with some clever today screen plugins, especially with rltoday, you can do at least the first part with customization only.

if only the creator wants to make pointui for VGA sigh..

That concept has been done here

i tried v2r and though it was not that good....this idea is awesome though i would love to see it developed

I like the concept.... I'll try to achieve something similar with my app (ThrottleLauncher) and report back with what can be done . Some questions:
Any way of getting the art work used on your screen shots?
What are the left and right arrows on the clock for?
Thanks for that cool concept!

APBilbo said:
I like the concept.... I'll try to achieve something similar with my app (ThrottleLauncher) and report back with what can be done . Some questions:
Any way of getting the art work used on your screen shots?
What are the left and right arrows on the clock for?
Thanks for that cool concept!
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This is what I've so far. I know the look is not the same but without the background's it's the closer I can make it for the today plugin. For the "poping up" app, the same theme can be used without the clocks on throttle main app. A little modification on the app will be needed to show the prevous window as background.

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This is what I've so far. I know the look is not the same but without the background's it's the closer I can make it for the today plugin. For the "poping up" app, the same theme can be used without the clocks on throttle main app. A little modification on the app will be needed to show the prevous window as background.
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awesome! if you could release your today plugin ribbon, my theme would be complete! really looking forward to this

Michaelr219 said:
awesome! if you could release your today plugin ribbon, my theme would be complete! really looking forward to this
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The today plugin ribbon is really eassy to achieve with my app ;-). I've made a simple theme for you. Just uncompress the zip file into your instalation dir of ThrottleLauncher (see my signature).
After that, go to ThrottleConfig app (it must be on your programs menu) and set plugin height to 38 (or higher if you customize the icons to be bigger), then sellect Ribbon on the combo box and click "Set Today's" button. Then on the actions menu (left softkey) select Edit AppDB, add as much app's as you wish (needed fields are title, name and exec, only select an icon if you wan't to override the default of the app). Select the app's you want to be on the Used list. After all that add throttletoday plugin to your today screen.
If you wan't to make some playing with the setup you can take a look at this tutorials
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=8
You can for example eassily set the ribbon to be 2 rowed, add a clock, add contact photodial ribbon, etc etc .
edit: removed atachment as it contained an error. Look some post's below for the correct one..

APBilbo said:
The today plugin ribbon is really eassy to achieve with my app ;-). I've made a simple theme for you. Just uncompress the zip file into your instalation dir of ThrottleLauncher (see my signature).
After that, go to ThrottleConfig app (it must be on your programs menu) and set plugin height to 38 (or higher if you customize the icons to be bigger), then sellect Ribbon on the combo box and click "Set Today's" button. Then on the actions menu (left softkey) select Edit AppDB, add as much app's as you wish (needed fields are title, name and exec, only select an icon if you wan't to override the default of the app). Select the app's you want to be on the Used list. After all that add throttletoday plugin to your today screen.
If you wan't to make some playing with the setup you can take a look at this tutorials
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=8
You can for example eassily set the ribbon to be 2 rowed, add a clock, add contact photodial ribbon, etc etc .
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awesome! thank you soo much, im going to incorporate this to the m-series of my iStyle theme, youll get much credit deserved for this. im gonna test this right now! thanks again!

Michaelr219 said:
awesome! thank you soo much, im going to incorporate this to the m-series of my iStyle theme, youll get much credit deserved for this. im gonna test this right now! thanks again!
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If you need more help or find any probs you know where to find me .

APBilbo said:
If you need more help or find any probs you know where to find me .
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i installed the latest version... and unzipped accordingly, i didnt get the "ribbon" as an option in the dropdown menu... and i cant find that clock ribbon like in your screenshot, if you could post that theme like in your first screenshot, itd be much appreciated, im trying to find something similar to the ribbon in pointui... i dont know how to design it, i just would like to easily scroll through a clock, calendar, and if possible, notifications... mainly just clock and calendar... also, is it possible to have it automatically "fall into place" on the flick/scroll... all your work is appreciated... and thank you in advance

Michaelr219 said:
i installed the latest version... and unzipped accordingly, i didnt get the "ribbon" as an option in the dropdown menu... and i cant find that clock ribbon like in your screenshot, if you could post that theme like in your first screenshot, itd be much appreciated, im trying to find something similar to the ribbon in pointui... i dont know how to design it, i just would like to easily scroll through a clock, calendar, and if possible, notifications... mainly just clock and calendar... also, is it possible to have it automatically "fall into place" on the flick/scroll... all your work is appreciated... and thank you in advance
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Sorry... my fault... there was an error on the zip. Setup xml must be inside a folder called Ribbon on the setups folder and not directly inside it. Here you have an update of the simple ribbon setup and the one of the screenshots above (this last will require a little work still but I upload it so you can test it ).

can i get rid of the top today separator line?

hi to all,
this is another annoying thing i have been trying to get rid of for a few months now.
it is regarding the grey horizontal line which sits right under the top bar.
to be more precise: i am not referring to today-plugin seperator lines in common, i mean just the top one, which seperates the top bar (containing the radio icons, etc and the start menu) from the first today plugin.
here are my findings so far:
- as it is somehow related directly to the os, you cannot make it transparent
- the reg-key hklm\software\microsoft\today\items\htchome\lock position = no does not solve the problem
- setting hklm\software\microsoft\color\6 (today screen horizontal bars) to the same color as the background does also not work as it only affects the other plugin seperator lines
is there any news to this topic? maybe there are more possibilities to tweak when you have 6.1 device?
many thanks

I have the same question.

i used to use vjtoggletoday to make the top bar smaller. the default size is 26 i believe. Set it to 24 and that should hide the seperator but keep the rest of the top bar visible.
it's not the exact fix you're looking for but it pretty much get's you the same look.

i have been using vjtoggletoday as well for hiding the buttom-bar and the top-bar separator line. but from time to time the buttom-bar and the top-bar were re-appearing - so i was hoping to find a more stable solution. i am using now dcinobar which only hides the buttom bar

did you ever find a resolution? I found this site...have not tried, but you may want to take a look. (http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mobile/PPCColorConfig.aspx)
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i have been using vjtoggletoday as well for hiding the buttom-bar and the top-bar separator line. but from time to time the buttom-bar and the top-bar were re-appearing - so i was hoping to find a more stable solution. i am using now dcinobar which only hides the buttom bar
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Vista Taskbar

I moved my Vista Task bar to the vertical right hand side of the screen today and noticed that youtube and BBC videos bennefit greatly from that extra bit of screen height. Yet I actually prefer the task bar to be hoizontal along the bottow of the screen. Decision decisions...
So I would love to hear your thoughts; which Taskbar setting do use/prefer? Horizontal or Vertical? Always On top or hidden?
I guess this is also an oppertunitiy to include a picture of your desktop (fuzzing out anything that is personal of course).

Hi,
For Firefox there is a plug-in called Full Screen that switches it to full screen and back with a small icon (so, no need for F12 key). When I use that it also uses the space normally occupied by the taskbar.
I did have the taskbar at the left-hand-side for a while, but I didn't like it.
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

iFonz 2 Bottom Bar

I want open this post to know what users want in iFonz 2.
You want bottom bar equal to iFonz 1 with icons or actual text menu?

Please reply this pool to have an idea of future development.
Bye

the programs are great!! what i could think of is to try to incorporate them as a today plugin like pointui or throttlelauncher etc.or at least a way to have it always open without access to the today screen like spbwatcher did for mobile shell for people who would like this to be their main interface without worrying about closing the app and reopening
as for the poll, i would say that an option to choose would please more people

I would love to have back the bottom row of icons from 1.0, I definetly prefer it to having a home screen. I makes it a more complete iphone clone for those of us with iphone envy who aren't on at&t

I agree. Icons are better.

I like the bottom button row more than the menu. But if you see a chance to give every user the option of choosing what he/she likes, this would be the best ever
Thx for your hard work.

I'd like nothing, or a switchable bottom bar. So i voted for configurable.
I use iFonz as launcher, so there's no need of a bottom bar if not to launch configurator or to minimize/shut down the app. But if you'll implement again gestures as in iFonz 1, i'll have definately no need of a bottom bar. Configurable, in my opinion, is better: who want it can have it, who don't can get rid of it.

Hi ssj5trunks,
I like and use both versions of iFonz on my LG KS20. Both work very stable.
I prefer the bottomiconbar cause all important apps are always available.
But as I like the idea of the homepage, I would like most if the homescreen would not be a separate page, but the first of the scrolling pages.
If this would slow down to much, maybe you could create an icontype "switch to homescreen/back" in oderer to swap between icons and homescreen.

Sid-Shrunk said:
I would like most if the homescreen would not be a separate page, but the first of the scrolling pages.
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I don't so