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Cube, Ifonz, PocketCM skins for VGA

Hi in this thread I am really hoping that programers will
make this interface also for VGA devices..All this time I always
envy QVGA devices, because most programers only think about them..
We as VGA user can not enjoy the great interface program like that..
So please programer or skin makers..release for VGA devices also =)
So far I only found out pointui has make VGA version also
Come on all VGA users let us support programers to create
skin programs for VGA also in this thread =D

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VGA user feels okay?? without this cool interface program??

touchflo and itask allready support vga! the cube doesn't so I use mortbuttons, not so stylish but skin support and works good! also I think the new 3d cube is much slower than the old one.. I want the 0.4 cube with vga

TacoLoco said:
touchflo and itask allready support vga! the cube doesn't so I use mortbuttons, not so stylish but skin support and works good! also I think the new 3d cube is much slower than the old one.. I want the 0.4 cube with vga
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Thanks for letting me know about mortbuttons
Yes I have tested ftouchflo and it works but there is only little bug..which when my I made my phone to sleep mode and wake it up again my phone will become smartphone =p can not use touch screen anymore..gotta soft reset..ugh

theme freak said:
Thanks for letting me know about mortbuttons
Yes I have tested ftouchflo and it works but there is only little bug..which when my I made my phone to sleep mode and wake it up again my phone will become smartphone =p can not use touch screen anymore..gotta soft reset..ugh
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damn I thought the problem with the screen was a hardware issue (dell x51v) thanks very much maybe ftouchsl fixes this..

You can find the cube and tones of VGA cabs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342039

teixeirabmb said:
You can find the cube and tones of VGA cabs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342039
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Thanks bro, its really a cool colection but the cube I want is the C++ edition

Best GUI ("themes") for Touch Dual? (like Manila, etc)

Hi,
I want to change the "gui" of my touch dual, maybe putting something like manilla. There are some apps around to customize the PPC like XIAMultiTheme (see post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396910). I want something nice and change the feeling of the Nike but something fast. Which one do you think is the best customization? I like the one of that post, but i am afraid is going to be slower.

im using this at the moment and it looks very nice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413776

Wow, i like

throttle launcher looks really nice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TraPlMCjZUU&feature=related
im gonna try it out

ducamie, seems nice, is it fast?

the throttle launcher is still beta so its not as fast as it could be, but it is very smooth and beautiful graphics. by far the best diamond theme ive tried.
i recomend you try it, its a very simple install. install the 2 cabs and select the theme in the today screen option, then reboot and it will load.
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/index.php/downloads/34-public-releases/81-093-beta

Pointui is the best. Not the greatest to look at but the fastest and the smoothest. Loads super quick to.
http://www.pointui.com/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425908

ducamie, I've seen the manila2D and seems really nice, but I have read some problems that required hard reset... is it really stable on our niki?

ramirezf said:
ducamie, I've seen the manila2D and seems really nice, but I have read some problems that required hard reset... is it really stable on our niki?
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ive had it on my nike for about a week now and its really great. it had a few bugs earlier but update 8 fixed it. it is really great.
i highly recommend it.

Is it faster than the TouchFlo that brings the Nike? ducamie, I think this weekend i'm going to install it...

I have Manilla2D on my Nike and it does take a while to turn the phone on, but once on it runs fine. Manilla2D looks great.

how do I install that manilla2d?

Epke said:
how do I install that manilla2d?
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try this huge thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974&goto=newpost

hi,
SPB Mobile Shell is working fast and looks nice, but it's not freeware.
In my opinion Manilla2D rocks (I don't use Mobile Shell anymore) but I still haven't found the perfect gui.

Confused About all the Different Touch Flo 3d's

So just got my Xperia the other day and am looking to make the jump to Touch Flo 3d. Looking on the forum here there's at least 6 different versions and I'm kinda confused on what the differences between these even are.
Can someone please clarify the difference between:
Touch Flo 3d 1
Touch Flo 3d 2
Touch Flo 3d HTC Blackstone
Manila
Manila Touch HD
Manila V2
I noticed that there's also a lot of confrontation between installing touch flo as a ROM or just running it on a panel from a CAB file. What are the advantages of either. If possible I'd prefer to keep the Xperia panels and just run Touch Flo in a panel.
Also while I'm at it since I don't think it's worth another thread, can I run the Windows Mobile 6.5 beta in a panel or do I have to install it and wipe out windows mobile 6.1?

I am quite sure that WM 6.5 needs to be installed instead of WM 6.1.
About the Touch flo's im in the same boat... i just would like the "best" version as a panel. So thank you for bringing this up

Windows mobile is the platform on which all your programs run, including the panel manager and touchflo.
There's currently two* versions of TF3D, TF3D 1 and TF3D 2. Manila == TF3D.
The best and newest at the moment is TF3D2, as stickied, it has landscape support, but it also has a few bugs, as it's a beta build. All in all, it works more that good enough.
Best thing I can recommend is flashing one of itje's ROMS, preferably the new 4.0, which has TF3D2. This way, you'll have TF3D as your homescreen, but also the panels.
* Not including different beta's.

Alright thanks a lot, looks like I'll be installing that Touch Flo 3d2 ROM then.
Quick question though. Even if I flash this I'm going to assume I'm not resetting windows mobile since the xperia interface and touch flo 3d are just "skins" for windows mobile, so I wouldn't have to reinput all my settings?

When you flash your ROM, everything will be erased.
If you however just want to install TF3D and keep everything, you will have to wait for daran_clarke to finish his TF3d .cab, which you just install on your phone just like any application.

i recommend running TF3D2 from a rom, because the responsiveness and speed is increased alot. i recommend itje's touch it landscape ver 1.1 rom, as this is the most stable and normal version, as opposed to ver 4 which is lets say... a bit different. if you are intersested i will provide the rapidlinks to this no longer available rom

Already installed itje's V4 and am extremely pleased since it hasn't crashed yet. However I tried going on youtube and the video is really choppy and out of sync with the audio, which used to not be the case. Tested it both on wifi and edge and the data speed makes no difference. Any ideas?

NiklasK said:
Already installed itje's V4 and am extremely pleased since it hasn't crashed yet. However I tried going on youtube and the video is really choppy and out of sync with the audio, which used to not be the case. Tested it both on wifi and edge and the data speed makes no difference. Any ideas?
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Itje's V4 is (although the filename doesn't tell you this) still in it's beta stages. Some problems will still occur, but Itje is working on it.
That's the reason flext recommended you 1.1.

Am I supposed to have to reinstall the radio, because my EDGE has stopped working altogether since installing Touch Flo 3d?

NiklasK said:
Am I supposed to have to reinstall the radio, because my EDGE has stopped working altogether since installing Touch Flo 3d?
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Nope, that seems to be an unrelated problem. I've never seen reports of EDGE failing after TF3D installation. If the problem persists, you might want to try a hard-reset (also removing TF3D again).

flashing to tf3d 2 rom
iam kinda new at this and iam trying to flash to tf3d 2 rom because the theme that iam trying to get does not work with my stock rom..

NiklasK said:
So just got my Xperia the other day and am looking to make the jump to Touch Flo 3d. Looking on the forum here there's at least 6 different versions and I'm kinda confused on what the differences between these even are.
Can someone please clarify the difference between:
Touch Flo 3d 1
Touch Flo 3d 2
Touch Flo 3d HTC Blackstone
Manila
Manila Touch HD
Manila V2
I noticed that there's also a lot of confrontation between installing touch flo as a ROM or just running it on a panel from a CAB file. What are the advantages of either. If possible I'd prefer to keep the Xperia panels and just run Touch Flo in a panel.
Also while I'm at it since I don't think it's worth another thread, can I run the Windows Mobile 6.5 beta in a panel or do I have to install it and wipe out windows mobile 6.1?
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TouchFlo 3D 2 works in portrait and landscape mode [latest version]
TouchFlo 3D 1 has touch flo tabs but only in portrait mode
Manilla is the TouchFlo cube [it isnt touch flo 3d at all]
Manilla HD is the same as Touch Flo 1
Manilla V2, I think is Touch Flo 3D.....
Forgive me for the guessing...I don't use touch flo

TouchFLO, Manila, 2D, 3D ???

I remember reading somewhere that Touch3G aka Jade has TouchFlo 2.
But on my Jade if I go to Settings/System/TouchFLO it says:
TouchFLO version 3.0 (build 31508).
So what do I have? Manila, Touchflo, 2D, 3D ??? Could somebody please explain the HTC language to me?
Also, specific to the Jade, what is the difference between themes and skins? Isn't it the same? I am reasonably computer literate, but like clear definitions of things.
Reading through the posts on Manila modifications, one poster stated:
What version of TouchFLO have you installed? You need to have at least M2D version 20
How come that my phone is new, and I only have version 3??
Thanks for help
Joe

Manilla 2D

The Jade has TouchFlo 2D (as in 2 dimensional) also known as Manila 2D, TF2D or M2D.
Themes and skins are, afaik, the same, and the person stating that you have to have at least version 20 means version 2.0 actually.
'Manila' btw is HTC's codename for the Touchflo interface
Touchflo 3D (also known as Manila 3D, TF3D of M3D) is a different story.
Whether a HTC phone has TouchFlo 2D or 3D depends on the capacity and resolution of the screen. The Jade has a QVGA screen (quarter VGA aka 240 x 320 pixels) and can't handle the TF3D animations and touch posibilities.
A phone with a VGA screen (640 x 480 pixels), like the Diamond, usually has Touhflo 3D.
Fellow forumers, plz correct me if i'm wrong....but this is what i know.
Hope i helped you out a bit

Thank you Nirak for help. So I have TouchFLO 2D v.3.
If have a few more questions for those who modified their Touchflo -
If I want to change my Touchflo, I understand I have two choices -
Uninstall it (don't know how) and find and install a new one; or
modify the existing one with registry edits and/or Manila Customiser.
This Customiser - is it basically a new additional program that runs alongside the existing TouchFLO, or is it something like a registry editor that only modifies the existing TouchFLO and can be later uninstalled?
Thanks
Joe

jfranek said:
If I want to change my Touchflo, I understand I have two choices
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If you want to change (I assume modify/customise) you can do many things including changing the registry, yes and also change the graphics, etc.
jfranek said:
This Customiser - is it basically a new additional program that runs alongside the existing TouchFLO, or is it something like a registry editor that only modifies the existing TouchFLO and can be later uninstalled?
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AFAIK, briefly the customiser (M2DC) does not run alongside. It's just a program that does (simplify) the registry editing and a few *.xml files (for customisation) for those who do not wish to dwell into. yes M2DC can be uninstalled (after using) and TF2D runs fine.
I am not sure how to uninstall TF2D but you can always deactivate if you do not wish to use it and use other today themes or plugins, etc.

uninstalling TF2D that is included (cooked) in your ROM is not possible, but as Azahidi says, you can deactivate it and use the standard Windows interface, or any other shell you prefer, like SPB Mobile Shell, and there are others.
Basically TF2D is also just a shell round your Windows Mobile System, that's suppossed to make it easier to use (not always is...) and more 'eye candier' .
The M2DCustomizer is a easy to use utility to modify the settings of TF2D and use other skins, look over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974 (older skins)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451702
Since i'm not that much of a techi i like using M2D Customizer, but just like Azahidi says, these modifyings can also be done by editing the registry and/or .xml files
To give you an idea, here is a screenshot of my Jade's homepage with basically the standard TF2D, modified with another skin:

Thanks azahidi and Nirak.
I've been reading all those posts several times, it is starting to make some sense.
Looking at the M2D Customizer - I believe it will back up the existing factory Touchflo and I can restore it if the mods did not work or I did not like them. Is this correct?
Apart from other mods, I would like to change the email widget to a 'Tasks' widget. I would like to see a different icon instead of the envelope and instead of the sheet of paper sticking out of the envelope I would like to see a list of tasks etc.
I don't think that the Manila Customiser can do that. Is that correct?
And I don't think I could achieve this by getting a new skin, could I ?
Maybe there is a program somewhere to design a complete shell from scratch on desktop PC??
Joe

I think you should test Spb-Mobile Shell 3. It is very good.
14 days-trial and information here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/

Thanks, MvBoe, I think I will try it.
Joe

jfranek said:
Thanks azahidi and Nirak.
I've been reading all those posts several times, it is starting to make some sense.
Looking at the M2D Customizer - I believe it will back up the existing factory Touchflo and I can restore it if the mods did not work or I did not like them. Is this correct
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Yep, totally, just remember first thing to do is making a back up of your original theme, M2D Customizer has a tab for it ('restore')
jfranek said:
Apart from other mods, I would like to change the email widget to a 'Tasks' widget. I would like to see a different icon instead of the envelope and instead of the sheet of paper sticking out of the envelope I would like to see a list of tasks etc.
I don't think that the Manila Customiser can do that. Is that correct?
And I don't think I could achieve this by getting a new skin, could I ?
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Correct again
jfranek said:
Maybe there is a program somewhere to design a complete shell from scratch on desktop PC??
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I really have no clue if sucha program exists.

stupid question
Hello,
I have got pure WM6.5 on my device without any graphic enviroment like Touch 2D or something. Is it possible to install only this enviroment (Touch 2D - is it Manila 2D?) ? And how?
Sorry for the noob quiestion...

Matio said:
Hello,
I have got pure WM6.5 on my device without any graphic enviroment like Touch 2D or something. Is it possible to install only this enviroment (Touch 2D - is it Manila 2D?) ? And how?
Sorry for the noob quiestion...
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You can install anything on your device, depending on the purpose and your liking, and how you want to customise your today screen. Yes you can install Manilla2D (TF2D). Just search xda, get (download) the .cab file to your PC, copy to your device (or download straight to your device) and then run it.

Many thanks for your answer azahidi.
I tried to install M2D as you told me. I folowed the guide witch is here. So that I have installed HTC Home v 2.1. and after that [11.3.08-Update 20] M2D Build 1.0.18203328 - Jade (TOUCH 3G Version). Restarted device, but nothing happened. When I turn my Home screen as TouchFLO, on my screen appeares text: "Tap here to launch TouchFLO" and when I tap there, the whole device becomes to be totally frozen.
Can anyone help?

MvBoe said:
I think you should test Spb-Mobile Shell 3. It is very good.
14 days Trial and information here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/
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I greatly agree. SPB Shell is 10 times better and user friendlier then TF2D. I had TF2D for about a week and tried out SPB Shell 3.5 and I have never gone back. I am one happy customer.

Which UI do you prefer?

Just wanted to gauge what everyone's thoughts were about which UI they prefer the most now that there are so many options.
Which do you prefer using out of the below:
TF3D
TF3D2
Titanium
Point UI
SPB Mobile Shell

Voted for TF3D even tho I haven't tested any of the other, but I've seen youtube videos.

Neither of them..Sense UI all the way.

CraZyLiLbOy said:
Neither of them..Sense UI all the way.
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It hasn't been ported to the diamond properly yet hence i left that one out.

tf3d2, love new calendar, and dipper manila

supersanj said:
It hasn't been ported to the diamond properly yet hence i left that one out.
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It doesn't matter if it hasn't been ported to the diamond..All I know is that Sense UI is the best UI out there. Just my two cents.

Wich UI do you prefer?
I would say PointUI Pro with the Sense UI themes and applets, works like a charm, feels smooth and lag free.

SPB Mobile Shell 3

SPB shell is the best for me, better than manilla, it can be configured like you want and everything it is very accesible and finger friendly.

Using titanium right now. But can't wait when HTC releases sense ui for winmo.
Also looking for good port of sense ui for now, which one you using CraZyLiLbOy ?

voted TF3D2 now it's very usable also with the "old" diamond
PointUI is really nice but wastes too much memory
SPB Shell isn't free

I really like SPB shell is the best.
Its finger friendly, customisable and easy to use.

I'm a Titanium user for now. But when Manila 2.6 shows up... I'll be switching to that!

Trident said:
I'm a Titanium user for now. But when Manila 2.6 shows up... I'll be switching to that!
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Im with you on that one Trident. Can't wait for the Diamond Dev's to port it over

I feel all the new UIs are memory hungry, so use the old school Touch Home screen, got everything you need, and still room to fit a couple of home plugin's on the today screen, and it runs so much quicker than anything else I've tried (and I've tried them all)

does anyone knows where to find old school htc today for vga screen?
found couple htc today, but icons are too smal at vga screen.

This is the one I use, works fine both portrait and landscape.
Upload didn't work, here you :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5P18BXUV

I am useing SPB and I like all programs to be finger friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSod3qtVRjU

matrix77 said:
I am useing SPB and I like all programs to be finger friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSod3qtVRjU
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Agreed. Everything is so much easier with it. You dont even have to use the start menu if you configure it properly.

SPB mobile shell is well worth the $30