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Touch H.D. - A review from a W.M. Virgin

I was due an upgrade from Orange, after having used a n95 for the last year or so, which was a device I liked. Works straight out of the box as a phone, with the features you would expect a modern phone to have aready implemented in a user friendly manner. Also has the capability to be updated and personailse as you see fit - mine had orange o.s. ripped out within a day of arriving.
Knowing an upgrade was due I spent an afternoon on the net wondering what to go for. Seriously consider decamping to O2 for an iphone, mainly because of the data tariffs there, but had my eye turned by this new Touch H.D. gizmo. Now partly because a few of my mates already have iphones, and partly because I enjoy being contrary, and also because I hate the way "Apple" are trendy and Microsoft hated, the H.D. it was.
Haggled away with Orange and managed to get 1200mins, 500 texts, 0.5gig data for 45 quid month. So in went my order.
The HD arrived the next day. I excitedly opened the very sexy packaging (I have a very sad affection for gadget boxes and keep them for years - even after the device has packed up!), had a quick read of the quick start, plugged her in and off I went.
Nice looking skin,quick to where you want to go. Seems good.
But then things got sticky. I wanted to find out how to bluetooth contacts over to the H.D. Nothing in the quickstart nor the pdf. I know, I know, I could of stuck me old sim in and copied the contacts over, but this is a new toy and we like to play, right? After a couple of hours got an answer over the interweb about how to do this. Phew. Then did the sensible thing of copying these contacts to the sim for safety. Uh oh - the dreaded duplicate contact showing problem.
Then I decided to try the browser. As per another post I could not connect to wifi for an age, then it suddenly started working. Furthermore, I was getting a constant "xml parsing error" when trying to connect via Orange Internet. Had had the phone six hours now, and had only managed to get duplicate contacts on! Arrggghh, fustration of the nation.
Sent a text to a mate, only had I? No sending confirmation. What is going on? Oh, all messages--->sent. Mmm, hardly immediately user friendly.
I was getting tired, so set the alarm. How primitive thought I. More primitive than I realised when I was awoken and finally worked out that three button presses were required to get the alarm into snooze mode. Three! And only then if you had randomly pressed the alarm icon in the top bar in the hope it would do something - couldn't see this advice in any instructions anyway.
So by my second day was getting very dubious about this hardware, even allowing for the mandatory new device learning curve. Happily I stumbled across this place. Installed all the recommended softwares.
Klaxon - hey, my alarm now works like all the other alarms on all other phones.
Adavance Config - hey now I get an sms sent confirmation, and my phone is faster.
Backup -copied my contacts from the storage card, after running this programme, to my pc, deleted the sim contacts and hey presto! No more duplicate sims, and a safe back up.
I then played around with the advanced connection setting and the connection wizard and bang - my browser now works!!!
Suddenly I start to like this phone. Nay love it. It appeals to the very big geek inside of me. Its hard to use, you have to batter away at it to make it user friendly. It's more like a p.c. than a phone - ding dong! It is more like a p.c. than a phone.
And here in lies a problem I believe for the majority of users who will gets this phone and will be flummoxed by it and bin it back to Orange.
It needs to be set up as a phone first if Orange are flogging it as a phone, and not a p.d.a. as they do Blackberry. Little things, like a decent alarm clock, sms confirmation, instructions for contacts, turn off sim contacts option. A much better wlan interface - akin to the N95 would help. On that device selecting the browser gives you a pop up which gives you the option of orange internet, or if one is available a wlan. A simple click on the wlan you want and you're in. All very easy, and in contrast to having to open up communication, wireless lan, wlan, advanced, to swap to a different wlan.
None of these things would take too much effort to implement, and would make the Touch HD excellent for a beginner out of the box.
Your average user though will find these irritatations unforgiveable in some circumstances, and if the rumours of high returns to Orange are right, I bet the above bug bears have a large part to play in this.
However, once the phone is personalised, and once it is accepted as a computer, then I think it is fantastic. It's gorgeous to look at and hold, there's lots of nice little features- cover flow in favourite contacts is good eye candy for example.
And now I realise Ive got another piece of Redmond in my pocket, I'm even happier. This phone is a geeks dream - the "chic of tweak" perhaps? After four days with it I love it. I'm going to love it even more in months to come when some clever peeps get Android running on it, or when WM6.5/7 comes out.
A fantastic computer that does phone calls, as well. But out of the box, not a fantastic phone.
Just my 2p's worth.

Interesting to read your experience. I'll keep some of those things in mind when I get my phone next week. Do you have links to the software you added from here? (like Klaxon, Advanced Config, Backup...) I know I can search the forum, but I thought maybe you had them handy to post.

Chris Cross said:
Interesting to read your experience. I'll keep some of those things in mind when I get my phone next week. Do you have links to the software you added from here? (like Klaxon, Advanced Config, Backup...) I know I can search the forum, but I thought maybe you had them handy to post.
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Anything for our German friends ( 2-1 ;-) ) :
Klaxon:
http://www.koushikdutta.com/search/label/Klaxon
Advance Config:
http://julien.schapman.free.fr/touchxperience/advanced-configuration-tool.php
Backup:
http://www.dotfred.net/
Gyrator:
http://gyrator.brins0.net/
Remember also when you get your phone to add "file manager" to your list of programmes. The software is already on the phone, and you need it to navigate to your storage card to run new programmes.
Enjoy!

mooro1973 said:
Anything for our German friends ( 2-1 ;-) )
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2-1 LOL
Thanks!

excellent review that provides a good insight for winmo newbies, and I sure recognize my first experience in this, winmo is an acquiered taste and it gets addictive with time because yes, this phone really is an ultraportable PC with a phone slapped onto it. I'm gonna send this to some people I know still sitting on the fence

[APP] free SMS denial of service

Hi all , something to brighten up a dull February day for you all
After listening to my daughter moan about some bullies texting her all day and night again and again ,I knocked up a little app to get back at them
Its call *****_txt and is simple
Enter the number , the message, then when you want it to start dropping it's payload
then set the interval in minutes how many texts in each drop and how many times to drop the payload.
http://www.beady.com/*****_txt.jpg​
works a treat the victim's phone will slow right down recieving the texts
and depending on the phone fills every bit of SMS memory
The interval is for proper annoyance purposes , so when they thing it's stopped it hasn't
The delay timer is good for waking them up early in the morning
It works, my little offspring never gets those bully texts any more.
WARNING , it is possible to send 1000's of texts very easlily with this program be sure you have unlimited texts available or the laugh is on you.
Its tested on a T-mobile diamond and a orange diamond I haven't access to anything else.
the limits on sending speed are just guesses , it might go faster but i wondered if the network providers may stop it if it was too fast.
any ideas are gladly recieved to improve ( they will be filed in the time/money ratio todo list) and if anyone wants the code , just ask.
and there is no warranty etc etc etc, and use with adult discretion , I know you will.

yes I know its not attached to the first post ... just checking you where awake
View attachment *****_TXT.CAB

lol nice app, suerly gonna try it on some1
can i get your number?

hehe nice.
this plus bt spammer wow, the ultimate anti-bully tools.
thanx!

This is SMS Bomber had this for PC never thought i would see it on a phone Some networks block SMS spam great fun thanks so much cool little app

whats really gonna be funny is when your daughter's "bullies" get a hold of your little program....backfire??

gotta try this also! seems more complete than sms nuke! thanks!

Does not seem to want to work on my Tilt (kaiser) says incorrect number, i have tried adding and removing country codes. But looks good, I always mess with my friend (in a nice way) making his phone do funny things so this would add to the fun.

Works well, funny app, will have hours of fun with it lol and when are they going to finish the work on the Cobbles in town

There is already an application like that, called bassel's sms i think.
But nice idea.

Not a bad idea, could be improved by sending class0 sms

Might not be so funny if the recipients report the abuse to their network/ police
2 wrongs dont make a right etc etc
not that I agree with her being bullied in the first place

works in the u.s.?
hey man
it looks good
but can't get it to work in the u.s.
says that number is incorrect
any thoughts on a fix?

shadowline said:
Does not seem to want to work on my Tilt (kaiser) says incorrect number, i have tried adding and removing country codes. But looks good, I always mess with my friend (in a nice way) making his phone do funny things so this would add to the fun.
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Same here. Says the number is too short.

wont work in canada either Country code "1" then 10 digit # .... anyway to fix this? nice work though 4real...
says: " fone num too short muppet or just wrong init?? , check it now " help? thanks

bbobeckyj said:
Not a bad idea, could be improved by sending class0 sms
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If these could be sent as class 0, It'd have my download. But right now this is somewhat similar to baselSMSer haha

Nice!
Don't wanna be paying 1 grand ++ though..

Make it little batter, add more features like range of recipient numbers etc. and commercialize it...
I am doing it from ages, i am providing web, desktop & smart phone (WM, Symbian, Java) solutions for sms advertisement and stuff, and i like to flood my friends inboxs too

removed number error checking,
now any length of number will work, but it will still remove any non digit characters so use 0044 for international instead of +44
View attachment *****_TXT.CAB

Hi Pawaa,
Nice job, there is a bit more in yours,
*****_txt was just a two hour play on VS2005 to help my daughter , and I hadn't played with SMS on mobiles except on my old Nokia 7110 to control my house , but that was years ago.

Touch HD Security - My HD was stolen!

Hi guys,
A bit of bad news... my HD was stolen yesterday - i am gutted!
Orange have blocked my handset and SIM card after I gave them my IMEI number - this is somewhat reassuring, however my phone is using a custom rom, so I am concerned if the block sent by orange will actually get to the phone? Also, orange say the handset and the SIM will be blocked.
Is the "handset" just the phone part of the HD? in other words. is the device still useable as a PDA (without phone access).
I use PIM to backup all my appointments, text messages, phones numbers etc, but as far as I am aware, this data is stored on the memory card (damn it). I also use Sprite backup to backup my phone entirely... it copies the 35mb backup file to my computer which is great (but i dont think sprite stores the text and numbers ifor like PIM does). Does anyone know if PIM would copy the files to my computer?
At worst, I know I have all my telephone numbers and appointments because these are in outlook. But its not clear yet how much "stuff" ive lost for good... I guess its the memory card that im most concerned about. Is the memory card blockable? encrypt-able? password-protect-able? I'm guessing the theif can use my card in their computer and access all my data? Orange said that "if i syncronised the memory card with the phone, the card is only accessible via that phone" - this seems to ring a bell - i think i did see an option to do this when I had the original orange factory rom and I think I did actually do it back then, but since ive been flashing new roms, I havent done it since - should I assume that the "pairing" of memory card and phone has been severed once I changed rom and my card is actually accesible via any phone or computer? Any ideas?
Sprite backup gave me the option to backup my memory cards content as apart of the backup process, but I chose against it because *most* of the files I had on my computer anyway, but now I wished I had done (i guess the fact that it'd probably take a good half an hour to backup a 4GB memory card put me off).
To round off, in the future I would like to protect myself from loosing my phones data. Has any one got any ideas or advice for better practice? Is there a way of protecting my memory card etc?
All help and advice is much appriciate in my time of grief! I was so happy just two days ago (I even posted my feelings in the Rhodium forum recommending ppl stick with the HD and just get Dutty's V3 ROM - how sad am I) lol.
PS. Anyone selling a HD or know where I can get one on the cheap. lol.
Thx.
WizzKidd

How did it happen? Did you leave the HD unattended?

Why you didn't install any anti-theft software? I'm using RemoteTracker (free) and I'm just waiting that somebody will steal my HD .

wizzkidd said:
Orange said that "if i syncronised the memory card with the phone, the card is only accessible via that phone"
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Fraid not, unless you've specifically activated some encryption. They can just stick it in a memory card reader.

esackbauer said:
How did it happen? Did you leave the HD unattended?
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I work in a school as an IT technician, my HD was on charge beside my computer in my office. Students enter the room to pick up work they've sent to the colour printer... one student decided to help himself (even though there was 2 members of staff in the room at the time anyway). Police are involved, we have CCTV footage of students entering the room and leaving, but nothing conclusive. But the odds are against me getting the phone back. And for that extra kick in the goolies, my phone wasnt insured.

That stealing thing is quite a nightmare scenario, they'll know everything about you. What's more, any deleted data can be easily recovered if it was not securily deleted before. Ironically, any normal cell phone is more secure than any WM phone ... What's currently missing is a WM True Crypt type software which allows to encrypt the whole device, with password boot security. That's what RT does not offer you: silent and above all secure remote deletion of all or selected files on the storage card.

johnpatcher said:
Why you didn't install any anti-theft software? I'm using RemoteTracker (free) and I'm just waiting that somebody will steal my HD .
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I probably would have installed software of that nature eventually, but I had only just flashed it with Dutty's V3, and the latest radio and the latest SPL (check my signature). The device was fresh... It only had Tom Tom 7 and S2U2 on it.

There is a god!
THERE IS A GOD! I have been reunited with my Touch HD! wooohooo.
To cut a long story short, the thief/student in the school who was suspected pretty much sh*t themselves so much after being interrogated by the schools head teacher and internal police officer, as a result my phone is back in my hands (albeit without a battery - don't ask me where or why that's missing, but 95% of the phone is back with me, I've been told the battery will be back with me by tomorrow too - I cant even be bothered to ask questions, i'm just like "yeh? ok cool, thanks". lol.
Now what should I install on my phone from a security perspective? I feel like putting an electrocuting circut on the damn thing now. lol
WizzKidd

wizzkidd said:
THERE IS A GOD!
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If so you phone shouldn't been stolen, should it .
wizzkidd said:
Now what should I install on my phone from a security perspective? I feel like putting an electrocuting circut on the damn thing now. lol
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Personally I'm using RemoteTracker, however there are many others out there, just hit a search with the keywords "anti theft".

that remote tracker sounds like a good thing to have. which version will i need? my htc touch hd is alsmost straight out of the box. dont want to mess with it too much incase i break it lol

Take a Look at SpritTerminator,
it's a nice Tool like Remote Tracker, but with more importent features.
automatic sending a sms with gps-data and sim-card-numer, if a unauthorized SIM is used, partner phones are configurable, auto lock after succesfully sending
remote control your device from authorized phones only via SMS-Comands like
"lock phone"
"remotly send phone book or call history"
"delete all data" - format storage card
"display a warning message" like "Wow, you have find my phone, bring it back, our position is tracked"
i like this tool
but the better way is, to integrate SpriteTerminator in the own custum ROM with correct config, so that it resist a hard reset (my plan for future)

sethos said:
Take a Look at SpritTerminator,
it's a nice Tool like Remote Tracker, but with more importent features.
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Glad to hear the OP got his phone back, albeit sans-battery.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-terminator looks good.
I'm just wondering though, does the application access the GPS functionality in the back-background to find out where it is (meaning it's not obvious GPS is being used / no loading of Google Maps or anything silly like that!).
US$14.95 is not bad for data security and curiosity (if it gets stolen) purposes.

sethos said:
automatic sending a sms with gps-data and sim-card-numer, if a unauthorized SIM is used, partner phones are configurable,
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RemoteTracker does quite the same thing .

I guess Remote Tracker is a good idea. Nonetheless, there is also the need to protect your data on your phone (even if it were only the storage card)... something like Truecrypt ...

Check this, kinda like truecrypt, but works on PDA's
FreeOTFE
Haven't tried it though

wizzkidd said:
THERE IS A GOD! I have been reunited with my Touch HD! wooohooo.
To cut a long story short, the thief/student in the school who was suspected pretty much sh*t themselves so much after being interrogated by the schools head teacher and internal police officer, as a result my phone is back in my hands (albeit without a battery - don't ask me where or why that's missing, but 95% of the phone is back with me, I've been told the battery will be back with me by tomorrow too - I cant even be bothered to ask questions, i'm just like "yeh? ok cool, thanks". lol.
Now what should I install on my phone from a security perspective? I feel like putting an electrocuting circut on the damn thing now. lol
WizzKidd
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now get it insured!!! £5/month with orange. covers damage,loss, thiefed etc
with an access of only £15.. worth it i think, as i have my HD covered by this

i hear good things about WIMP (Where Is My Phone)

Georgeous2008 said:
I guess Remote Tracker is a good idea. Nonetheless, there is also the need to protect your data on your phone
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I haven't anything critical on my device, and if a thief is keen on the phone numbers there are better ways to get them .
sparky steve said:
now get it insured!!! £5/month with orange. covers damage,loss, thiefed etc
with an access of only £15.. worth it i think, as i have my HD covered by this
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For me this is wasted money at all, but I guess it is a philosophery question. I can't remember to have lost anything like that in the last couple of years, so you just need to have an eye for your device(s) .

I personally use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464336
It's awesome

I asked Sprite about Terminator and was told it is not compatible with Orange, dont know why.....

10 sms recipients limit??? u must be kidding me????

so, i want to send xmas message to my phonebook, and i cant????? because recipient limit is 10 numbers???
hahahaha MEGA LOL!
NOKIA vs HTC - 3:0 in just BASIC features (like "replay to" function in mail, mail recieve sheduling, alarm (mega suck on htc).... hmmm, i would say htc - nokia 0:7!)
haha...... if it isnt funny to me, i would cry... i am talking here about BASIC & MOBILE STANDARD features, not "rocket science..."...

LOL I guess you must be kidding talking about mass sms-ing as a "BASIC FEATURE". Be more creative and send different greetings to different groups in your phonebook...may be that's what HTC want from you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5192853&postcount=735
mail's "reply to" is present and working perfectly - same for mail sheduling. Alarm is good and if you're not satisfied with it you can install hell of a 3-rd party alarms of your choice. And please... "Nokia"... don't be funny

I am not quite sure, but as I read it i get a hunch the Nokia guy is a bit biased? or is it just me?

mobrado said:
so, i want to send xmas message to my phonebook, and i cant????? because recipient limit is 10 numbers???
hahahaha MEGA LOL!
NOKIA vs HTC - 3:0 in just BASIC features (like "replay to" function in mail, mail recieve sheduling, alarm (mega suck on htc).... hmmm, i would say htc - nokia 0:7!)
haha...... if it isnt funny to me, i would cry... i am talking here about BASIC & MOBILE STANDARD features, not "rocket science..."...
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It's not a rocket science to search before posting I think.
Just a very basic thing to do in a public forum

I too have a HD2 and I know what he means about nokia alarm. Almost every Nokia rings the alarm when the phone is OFF, dunno but my HD2 doesnt
I like the HD2 very much but for someone changing from a Nokia (N95 in my case) to a HTC (Top of the line HD2) it is very frustrating missing some of the functionalities that for any Nokia is basic. Ok we have the tweaking and I do it, but that wasnt explained to every person buying a 669€ (Value here in Portugal) phone.
Love my HTC, but I dont get out of the house without both phones in my pockets.

I haven't done any tweaking and my alarm (htc embeded alarm) works when the phone is off. Haven't tried G-alarm or Klaxon on my Leo yet...

KapaGT said:
I too have a HD2 and I know what he means about nokia alarm. Almost every Nokia rings the alarm when the phone is OFF, dunno but my HD2 doesnt
I like the HD2 very much but for someone changing from a Nokia (N95 in my case) to a HTC (Top of the line HD2) it is very frustrating missing some of the functionalities that for any Nokia is basic. Ok we have the tweaking and I do it, but that wasnt explained to every person buying a 669€ (Value here in Portugal) phone.
Love my HTC, but I dont get out of the house without both phones in my pockets.
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So when you go in to buy a phone the sales person should say:
"What phone do you currently have?"
"I have a XYX"
"ok - here's what the xyz can do that this new phone can't"
Give me a break - every phone has different features. If you are an early adopter then you either take your chances OR read the manual OR do a lot of research. Just count yourself lucky that there is XDA to help out. Otherwise you are stuck with a phone that cannot be changed at all.

Welcome to HTC world of wonders. The more you pay a phone, the more you learn stuff, the more you distinguish from the mass...
HD2 is the most challenging I've had. It's more like an extremely small laptop actually. As someone advised you before, do some searching. Third party applications and sharp tweaking solved 75% of the issues I had. Some work is in progress, but once we reach 100% the phone will be masterpiece.

drkalo said:
LOL I guess you must be kidding talking about mass sms-ing as a "BASIC FEATURE". Be more creative and send different greetings to different groups in your phonebook...may be that's what HTC want from you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5192853&postcount=735
mail's "reply to" is present and working perfectly - same for mail sheduling. Alarm is good and if you're not satisfied with it you can install hell of a 3-rd party alarms of your choice. And please... "Nokia"... don't be funny
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ok sorry, but some times it isnt easy to find something... because it is a game of words in search option..
and now.. pls help me to SET this:
i want to set on "email1" to AUTO REPLAY to "email2".. (example - some one recieves my mail, and replays me and mail goes to another mail adress).
Nokia, Ericson, etc etc has THAT very simple and easy to find! (u have that option also in outlook, express, gmail, hotmail, etc..)..
than you.

drkalo said:
I haven't done any tweaking and my alarm (htc embeded alarm) works when the phone is off. Haven't tried G-alarm or Klaxon on my Leo yet...
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Wow.. Phone off? Completely? Powered off? Tell me everything!
donnaw said:
So when you go in to buy a phone the sales person should say:
"What phone do you currently have?"
"I have a XYX"
"ok - here's what the xyz can do that this new phone can't"
Give me a break - every phone has different features. If you are an early adopter then you either take your chances OR read the manual OR do a lot of research. Just count yourself lucky that there is XDA to help out. Otherwise you are stuck with a phone that cannot be changed at all.
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I think you got it, "XYZ is a cheap brick, but your TOP of the line (and Budget) HD2 cant do all the same stuff"
XDA helps me to fix the problems.. That doesn't mean that it is better or worse, I can read manuals and I downloaded LEO's manual before I bought it, I think I don't need to say what a crappy manual it is.. Lacks 95% of crucial information that users have to digg in themselves. I am still hanging to my HD2 hopping HTC makes it even better.. fast..

mobrado said:
so, i want to send xmas message to my phonebook, and i cant????? because recipient limit is 10 numbers???
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Just found another post in ROM Development claiming you can change this in the registry.
Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606193

KapaGT said:
Wow.. Phone off? Completely? Powered off? Tell me everything!
I think you got it, "XYZ is a cheap brick, but your TOP of the line (and Budget) HD2 cant do all the same stuff"
XDA helps me to fix the problems.. That doesn't mean that it is better or worse, I can read manuals and I downloaded LEO's manual before I bought it, I think I don't need to say what a crappy manual it is.. Lacks 95% of crucial information that users have to digg in themselves. I am still hanging to my HD2 hopping HTC makes it even better.. fast..
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The point of my reply was that the poster I replied to was complaining that the sales person did not tell him the phone was not set up to do some things he was used to. You cannot expect a sales person to know all the capabilities of all phones AND to know how YOU use your phone in order to tell you if the phone you are looking at will meet your needs.
People have to take some responsibility to research on their own before making purchases. If you are going to REQUIRE a certain capability then please - before you find buy - find out if you can do it. XDA is a great place to inquire to those who already have the device as to whether what you need is there.

drkalo said:
LOL I guess you must be kidding talking about mass sms-ing as a "BASIC FEATURE". Be more creative and send different greetings to different groups in your phonebook...may be that's what HTC want from you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5192853&postcount=735
mail's "reply to" is present and working perfectly - same for mail sheduling. Alarm is good and if you're not satisfied with it you can install hell of a 3-rd party alarms of your choice. And please... "Nokia"... don't be funny
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He seriously got owned there ...
XD

Almost sold my HTC Touch Pro 2 but ...

Almost sold my HTC TP2 but SOMETHING told me to wait .. Problem was I was not happy with anything about it except the quality and feel ... I have been using the iphone for over a year now. got so used to that who interface. Someone said try the SPB Mobile shell .. I did .. had an old version from I don't know how many years ago .. Didn't do it for me ... then I went to see what the latest looked like .. WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT .. After than I installed the idial pad and the icontacts freeware and my phone I believe is going to pass up my iphone. I will be passing that to my son. There are a few apps that I will miss but I might find a replacement if I keep looking .. The most missed will be the program for looking at my eBay auctions and second is something called Glucose Buddy .. iphone just makes things so simple ..

gladd that u searched and did some mods and u love your phone. cuz i do to.

Hmm... why did you get the tp2 if you had an iPhone?

DOUBLE POST .. hmmm .. how did I do that ?

I bought it because I like windows mobile .. I don't like paying to put music on my phone, I don't like paying for ringtones... on too many occasions I paid for something and it got lost ??? I don't know how, but whatever was just GONE and couldn't get it back... ON and ON ... I wish WinMo would react to touch a little better, more like the iphone, but it is close enough.
ALSO: I am a gadget-a-holic. I saw one that someone had and just had to have it ..

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I bought it because I like windows mobile .. I don't like paying to put music on my phone, I don't like paying for ringtones... on too many occasions I paid for something and it got lost ??? I don't know how, but whatever was just GONE and couldn't get it back... ON and ON ... I wish WinMo would react to touch a little better, more like the iphone, but it is close enough.
ALSO: I am a gadget-a-holic. I saw one that someone had and just had to have it ..
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You're.gonna love it a little more...try these two cabs...
yes, I can count...got a little carried away...

telegraph0000 said:
You're.gonna love it a little more...try these two cabs...
yes, I can count...got a little carried away...
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hey telegraph, I know all those cabs except one...could you give a brief description of the HTC small menus cab? I think I know what it does, but want to be sure

sirphunkee said:
hey telegraph, I know all those cabs except one...could you give a brief description of the HTC small menus cab? I think I know what it does, but want to be sure
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It makes the menu in file explorer all fit in one screen...stock and some roms make the menu finger friendly, where you have to scroll up and down to see the rest of the menu options.

At the risk of sounding like I should have my phone taken away from me and replaced with an old Nokia or Motorola .. Is there a ROM that would transform this phone into an iphone sort of ?? What I miss the most is that with the iphone there is no digging. There is an icon for settings and the rest of the icons are applications .. I like that because I feel lost every time I pick this phone up .. Yesterday I had to go somewhere and didn't want to have that, "how do I ??" look on my face so I put my sim in my iphone and left my HTC at home ..
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theonlynickleft said:
At the risk of sounding like I should have my phone taken away from me and replaced with an old Nokia or Motorola .. Is there a ROM that would transform this phone into an iphone sort of ?? What I miss the most is that with the iphone there is no digging. There is an icon for settings and the rest of the icons are applications .. I like that because I feel lost every time I pick this phone up .. Yesterday I had to go somewhere and didn't want to have that, "how do I ??" look on my face so I put my sim in my iphone and left my HTC at home ..
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Every Sense 2.5 rom offers you today screen with roll-up-applications-on-a-screen (specially Cookie`s amazing Home Tab + editor), plus every important notifiaction on a screen. If you don`t wanna change your rom, you can install Iphone today, it gives you exactly same screen interface like Iphoney - no digging, just taping and you getin` there. Check it out:forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508429.

Thanks for the iphone today skin info. I installed it and I am tweaking this and that .. I know windows mobile people hate hearing "I love my iphone." But I will say this .. I HATE THE FACT THAT I LOVE IT .. but I miss all the other bennys that come with owning something OTHER than the iphone .. I am now happy to have the best of both worlds.
Lately my eyes are getting older [ I AM NOT THOUGH ] and I have a hard time with windows mobile, especially making calls while driving. So don't get me wrong people .. I love Windows Mobile. I love HTC phones .. I hate Apple ANYTHING .. but I not only WANT but NEED the big icons etc that I have on my iphone .. I hope to be selling my iphone or giving it to my son if he still wants it, in the near future .. He is actually talking about getting the HTC HD2 I think ..

well i know that you can increase the text size but i myself never really did check to see if it did work since i can see but go under settings -> system -> screen. then go to the text size and adjust it from there. not sure if it would work or not but hope it does do the trick for ya

You can configure SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3's home screen to be almost a dead ringer for iPhone. I understand the thing about picking up the phone and feeling lost, but only when I'm supremely inebriated, sleepy, or trippin' pretty hard. I got SPB set up with 3 pages of quicklinks for 95% of the things I do with my phone. I like to leave the stuff that can temporarily bork the phone in a place that has to be dug out to find...

DeathmonkeyGTX said:
You can configure SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3's home screen to be almost a dead ringer for iPhone. I understand the thing about picking up the phone and feeling lost, but only when I'm supremely inebriated, sleepy, or trippin' pretty hard. I got SPB set up with 3 pages of quicklinks for 95% of the things I do with my phone. I like to leave the stuff that can temporarily bork the phone in a place that has to be dug out to find...
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There is also an exact shell replacement that mimics the upcoming WM7.