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i just test Manila 2D (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173&page=110)
it doesn´t work on my Blueangel (latest xplode beta rom)
does any version work for you ?
if yes, please post manila 2d version and rom version
it is not working on devices that do not support touchflo, currently BA and himalaya and i think prophet, all other have ported touch.dll (touchscreen driver) which is compatible with touchflo
Thats why it does not work on non htc devices either
xplode said:
it is not working on devices that do not support touchflo, currently BA and himalaya and i think prophet, all other have ported touch.dll (touchscreen driver) which is compatible with touchflo
Thats why it does not work on non htc devices either
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do you think that it might be possible to make Manila2D point towards Ftouchflo instead of the actual touch.dll?
egzthunder1 said:
do you think that it might be possible to make Manila2D point towards Ftouchflo instead of the actual touch.dll?
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You took the question out of my fingers..
motisu said:
You took the question out of my fingers..
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You know what they say: "Great minds think alike"
check the recent posts, manila now works
so far slows booting (around 5 minutes) after complete startup it is fast and stable, also i will publish my edition of cabs because in herg's thread there are too many crapware which is not needed for manila
Do you have a link for this?
D-Jay said:
Do you have a link for this?
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Manila 2D first post
Works much faster if you load the 2d manila cab first then patch followed by the other programs than the sequence described in the installation read me.
sun_dream's rom can install, trust me...
i am using
xplode said:
check the recent posts, manila now works
so far slows booting (around 5 minutes) after complete startup it is fast and stable, also i will publish my edition of cabs because in herg's thread there are too many crapware which is not needed for manila
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Using your 'patched' Taskmanager, Album and Audio with herg's #15 + #16 +#1(common dlls) works fine for me on Blueangel and my Atom, Saved 13MB of space!!!
Thanx for optimising it so much.
well thanks, this is the way it should be
I think xplode is right here, I also would like to say the same.
xplode said:
so far slows booting (around 5 minutes)
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I'm using your cabs on Helmi's WM6 with Evil3000's German Language Patch applied and couldn't notice any significant speed hits on my BA. Boot-up is slowed down by no more than ten seconds. Excellent work, xplode, thank you very much for your excellent work.
well my first test cabs slowed down the device, but after this post i made a huge progress
any way to get touchflo 3D working ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430718
installation take 2h, and after soft resett my BA was unable to start.
keeps hanging in bootloader.
i had to hard resett.
well touchflo 3d may work in near future but it slows down the device a lot
wmvfan said:
any way to get touchflo 3D working ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430718
installation take 2h, and after soft resett my BA was unable to start.
keeps hanging in bootloader.
i had to hard resett.
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Actually, it doesn't hang the device, it just makes it ungodly slow. It actually takes close to 1 hour for the device to get past bootloader (yes, I waited that long )
But after that, it just gets stuck in the "Tap Here to Start TF3D" and "Launching TF3D"
It looks like M2D all over again, which tells me that there might be a similar set of issues with this port as there were with M2D. In other words, the reason for this thing not starting up is probably the same as for M2D... just a thought though
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Actually, it doesn't hang the device, it just makes it ungodly slow. It actually takes close to 1 hour for the device to get past bootloader (yes, I waited that long )
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Doh, I just tried to install m2d from the main development thread (v20). Took a while to install and when I did a reset it just stayed at the 4 color bars screen. I assumed it was dead and did a hard-reset. Didn't think to let it sit that way for an hour! lol
Going to try and install this xPlode version now.
I'm a little confused as to the versions though. Are we only supposed to install the xPlode version, or will we be able to install updates from the main m2d dev thread?
M2D v20
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Doh, I just tried to install m2d from the main development thread (v20). Took a while to install and when I did a reset it just stayed at the 4 color bars screen. I assumed it was dead and did a hard-reset. Didn't think to let it sit that way for an hour! lol
Going to try and install this xPlode version now.
I'm a little confused as to the versions though. Are we only supposed to install the xPlode version, or will we be able to install updates from the main m2d dev thread?
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That's because that version is not yet ready for non-htc or older devices like blueangel. Hopefully they will get that to work. But i prefer xplodes version for our kind of device cause that's the perfect installation made yet for all devices.
I'm about to buy an Elfin this Sunday, and after some googling, I want to clear some things up.
1. What is Manilla2D?
2. Should I install Onyx as soon as I get my phone, or should I wait?
3. What's the difference between TouchFLO2D and TouchFLO3D?
4. Is it possible to 'install' TouchFLO3D to an HTC Touch P3452?
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I'm about to buy an Elfin this Sunday, and after some googling, I want to clear some things up.
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1. What is Manilla2D?
It is a theme which comes with most WM6.1 roms, search this section to get more skins http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260&order=desc
2. Should I install Onyx as soon as I get my phone, or should I wait?
You should read first a lot, Onyx WM 6.5 doesn't have Manilla, WM 6.1 yes,and especially how to flash in the stickies here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=374
3. What's the difference between TouchFLO2D and TouchFLO3D?
Elfin doesn't support TouchFLO3D
4. Is it possible to 'install' TouchFLO3D to an HTC Touch P3452?
Answer above
Enjoy Your Device
Manilla2D = the Diamond Style.
3D= The Cube, 3D Touch Style.
argh double post
Manilla2D is basically a downsized version of Manilla3D.
and by the way, if you are looking for the HTC touch cube, its not longer available at any other phones, except for the touch and the dual.
More info about Manilla2D avail here
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Nqb&q=htc+touchflo+2d&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g:s4
@jeremy: Wait, from your link to google, I take that you mean mean Manilla2D is the same has TouchFLO2D. But tito12 says it's a 'theme'.
And does the HTC Touch P3452 have TouchFLO2D?
Manilla2D(M2D) is TouchFlo2D!
Nonono!
M2D has different themes for you to choose, and the themes is developed by our xda-developers community.
HTC Touch P3452 dafault handset does not have M2D, you have to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.1 in order to enjoy M2D.
Here are a few pointers.
1) You choose to upgrade either to
- HTC Built ROM, which is their upgraded version
- Cooked Roms, which is made by people just like you and me, but they are usually more functional and practical. And Most people recommend cooked ROM as the HTC Built rom which is commonly known as stock roms, is underpowered and have too little applications. (And lags .. blabla )
One such cooked rom is Onyx and the one I am using.
Which can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540
Yeah I read about Onyx. I'll use the stock ROM for a couple of months, and then look towards Onyx.
This is what I've understood.
Elfin with WM 6.0, neither has TouchFLO2d, nor Manilla2D. If upgraded to WM 6.1, it will have Manilla2D, but it still wont have TouchFLO2D. To get TouchFLO 2D, we have to install a separate thing. And Elfin doesn't supportd TouchFlo3D.
Am I right? I'm confused because jeremy89632 says M2D has different themes available, and tito12 says M2D is a theme.
EDIT: Here, Is this the actual interface of an Elfin with WM6.1?
Hi Cyanide
I should have used "interface" instead of "theme", and this interface can be skinned, there are many on developpement and hacks section.
Okay, so Manilla2D is an interface that comes with WM6.1 for the Elfin? And,here, Is this the actual interface of an Elfin with WM6.1?
Yes, manilla2d is touchflo2d.
Okay thanks a lot for the help
This is slightly off topic, but I just want to ask all the Elfin/Elf users here, how do you guys like your phone? Would you recommend it?
EDIT: Also, I read another thread 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531260' in which the guy's phone turned out to be fake. Since I'm buying a used one, what all should I check before purchasing it to ensure it's authentic HTC?
I'd just like to point out that I'm going to buy the phone tomorrow, so I need an answer for this (my last post) asap
Also, I read another thread 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531260' in which the guy's phone turned out to be fake. Since I'm buying a used one, what all should I check before purchasing it to ensure it's authentic HTC?
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Search forum for this keywords and you'll get many answers
" chinese elf clone "
Tips to get a legit HTC
Buy by walking in, not online.
Get from legit sellers, like big time corps.
See if the box have HTC logos and windows mobile logos around it.
Check for warrenty.
Thats all.
Im pretty happy with my elfin, except it lags GPS.
Umm, what do you mean 'lags GPS'?
HTC Touch Elfin and Elf does not have GPS.
Or known as the global positioning system which tells you where you are.
If you want to get a GPS for your elf, you must pay around SGD100 or around US$60 or even cheaper if you get from ebay.
I know it doesn't have GPS. You wrote it 'lags' GPS, so I was wondering what you meant. You probably meant it 'lacks' GPS.
Anyways thanks a lot you all, I finally bought it.
I'm avoiding making a new thread, so here goes.
How do I format the memory card? Will simply connecting the phone to the PC in data transfer mode and formatting it from there do? Or is there some special method?
Congratulations
Just insert it and start explorer to see that it is visible
Hi can anyone please tell me how to upgrade my ba to wm 6.5 from wm 6? , i used the wizard to upgrade from wm2003 to wm6 about 2 yrs ago, any help much appreciated, love this pda and i love using it as a phone too
basicly, when your device is already upgraded, there is not much to do.
you probably don't have to worry about sim lock and radio roms and storage sizes anymore, since apparently, it all worked fine so far.
so all you need to do is download any wm6.5 rom, unpack it, and make a RUU folder, containing the rom itself (nk.nbf) and a few other files named for example maupgradeut_noid.exe and getdevicedata and so on.
then you hard reset your device by pressing camera+record+power+reset and set the menu options clear registry hive and format storage to "YES" and enable kitl to "NO" using the camera and record buttons to flip and switch, confirm that with the mail button.
then you put your device into bootloader mode by pressing reset+record+power, kill active sync, connect the device to the pc and start maupgradeut_noid. if the 2nd screen shows you at least the version of the rom you go to, you are fine and can start the upgrade.
as soon as it is finished, use the hard reset method described above to prepare the device for the first start and then you might want to use "getting started" on the device to set it up and set up sync to get your pim data back. i shortened this description as you might remember a lot of stuff, or so i hope. most of what i wrote should ring a bell, if not, please feel free to have a look in the wizard for upgrades from wm5 to wm6 -=here=- or simply ask again, what troubles you.
with best regards
Chef_Tony
hi Tony thanks 4 ure help, when u say any rom is that only those specific for ba or are they all universal? i downloaded WM65-23052 & EnergyROM_RAPHAEL_20090811_Titanium or should i stick to the ones on the ba wizard page eg r6? i guess its the latter
of course you can only use blueangel roms found in the ba wm6 section, i mean, if you have a dvd writer that can read any disk, you wouldn't shove a slice of salami in there, would you?
the roms are so far interchangable as being WWE and work with every BA worldwide, but you need a blueangel rom, because of the rom's structure, memory consumption, drivers and so on, and after all, the buttons and the display resolution.
i once had a case, where someone tried to flash a charmer rom to a ba, that rom was way too big, and also the files were completely different, so he couldn't get through with it on his own and asked, because he would have messed up his ba with that pretty bad.
so, conclusively, 23052 builds are nice, but wait, till it's coming for the BA. i think d-two is working on it, maybe you want to have a look at the 23004 german rom thread, i asked him and he is gonna make an english version too, but until then you might want to catch status updates there.
Tony thanks it worked awsome phone, i used xplodes english rom, is there much difference between that & the german one? who needs an iphone eh again many thanks will lookout for d2s new ba release cheers
with the current releases there are no major differences between d-two's and xplode's build (except for the language) but what i wrote was about the next builds, they're both working on 23047 or 23052 builds, but d-two has the advantage that he has overcome the know sync and sms bugs, so his build will probably be the first of those two to come out. although he is rather new to this forum and so far he only supported his own wm6.5 build 23004 german, that is a guy you better keep an eye on. he is making fast progress and maybe will become one of the major chefs soon.
hi again please can you tell me how to do a wm6.5 hard reset & also how to get into into bootloader mode as to reload a new rom eg d2's, also i did notice there were 2 excel icons in msoffice maybe a bug many thanks
actually i solved it myself, just gotta be quicker with the camera & record buttons cheers
Hi Tony everything on explodes exroms installed ok except jbed, is that java? Also i looked at xplodes manila thats really nice, i guess thats on the latest phones , its like a mini o/s, so u would just install that after u install a 6.5 rom?
yes, jbed is the java applet manager.
for manila, i wouldn't say it is a mini os, it is more of an alternative gui, it replaces the titanium today screen with a touchflo one, but it also just features basic functions, photo viewing, music playing and does not alter the start menu or any add-on apps, most of the functions are also available in titanium or for titanium as an add-in, let's say facebook or stuff like that.
the time to install doesn't really matter, you can also install other apps first, whatever, you only need to know that after you install it, you have to deactivate "default" in today plug-ins and also all the others, because you can have only manila as your today plugin then and then you should find a "touch to start touchflo" button on your today screen and then you'll see, whether it works or not. that really depends from user to user, and between the different devices, roms, countries and manila versions, maybe you have to try several versions before you actually find one that runs in an acceptable speed, because that seems to be the general issue when it comes to porting manila.
thanks i may just stick 2 what i have, d2,s new 6.5.1 rom is beta so would that except xplodes extrom 23004 cabs? or is it best to wait for him to put his own one out?
thanks i may just stick with what i have, D2's new rom 6.5.1 is that compatible with xplodes 23004 extrom or is it best to wait for d2 to bring his own one out?
d-two said he wanted to release one, maybe till the weekend he's done putting it together.
hello everybody.
I have been absent for so long time but I was too busy to follow up all your work guys.
I have 2 simple questions that couldnt be answered by a little search I did.
I am looking for the fastest more stable and plain wm 6.5 rom with only touch flo 3d on it.
I am not a heavy user of this pda. It is mostly used as a simple phone and a gps navigator using destinator 7. (i may switch to i-go 8 in the near future)
I really do basic stuff so I really dont need all the nice goodies you preinstall on the cooked roms I have read about.
i forgot to mention that i currently have my touch cruise with
official rom wm 6.1 3.13.405.0 WWE
radio 1.59.42.15
Any help?
p.s. sorry if my search wasnt good enough but I was absent for a year and a half and it seems really difficult to discover the exact things I am asking.
cheerios
hm......i have succesfully installed hard-spl and also succesfully installed latest radio rom 1.59.46.12
i also installed succesfully pcarvalho's rom. now only thing to do is to find a clean 6.5 rom. I saw that installing the driver for touch flo 3d is really easy.
sigh...i feel sleepy now but at least i didnt bother any of you guys with my silly first questions
I'm not a pro here but have been following that 3D driver development for Polaris and tested that TF3D port on my Cruise. Unfortunately current TF3D on Polaris is good only for testing/fun/lulz/whatever and a lot of headache in everyday use (the first second I saw it, I knew I couldn't live with that slowness and bugness every day ).
My unpretentious advice is you better get latest pcarvalho's 6.5 rom (usin it for everyday - works good) and install Manila 2D v2.0 from HTC Mega on top of that. You may also consider the Kostas244-Rom with Manila 2D v.2 already cooked in there. As for those tons of extra stuff - I don't need it either but just don't mind it being there if it doesn't hit RAM or processor time too hard
P.S. My opinion is the dream of properly working TF3D on Polaris will never come true :sigh
Cheers!
thanks for the response mate.
I will try kostas's rom later this week.for now i am pleased in general with pcarvalho's one.
Please let us know how you get on - I would like to do the same thing.
with full wm6.5 coming out now, I'd like a clean light 6.5 too.
Need more memory.
Just the plain stuff, with .net and not so many apps installed, just the defaults from htc like opera and quickgps.
Well folks,
Good morning everyone, I have a serious problem ... lol.
I have tried all (I said all) roms from this site amazing and wonderful. I love the design manilla 2d and hate the titanium.
My problem is: I do not think a WM6.5 ROM with manila 2d to not get warning "low memory" on my htc touch elf. I already tried installing the Manila 2d on a clean ROM with wm 6.1 htc touch, but it was good.
Another problem I have: I want to qualqur cost the digital clock that comes in manila, it is very beautiful ... the problem is that whenever I finish any connection, or some program and put on the screen at home, the hours go back one hour behind by about 2 seconds and return to normal again. That's a bummer, I tried in HKLM to change the delay time, but only solved the delay when the phone is in sleep mode and switches to normal mode.
Please, if someone can help me, I need a rom with manilla already installed, but it uses little memory in order to install a ROM 6.5 with manila already included.
Thank you in advance.
Vincent.
Not quite sure what you are asking here (its early and I'm not quite with it) bt I'll reply anyways.
From what I understand, your installs of Manilla 2D are taking up to much space on your installs, leaving you less space to sinatll apps straight to the phone?
Have you tried all of the mods in [UPG] P_D Optimizations [03.14.10: ELFin HD2 Theme] ? This has a lot of tweaks and space saving optimisations for the Elf(in) and are very well explained as well. Could be worth a shot.
Hope this helps.
Stu
Thanks a lot capitanstu72, i will try this, optmized my htc elf and put results here.
Again, thanks.
I tried to put the custom theme that I indicated, but the theme will not boot, it worked.
I'm confused to what you mean. You say it didn't boot, but it worked? How so?
Have you tried using M2DC to remove some tabs to see if it works. You may have to disable footprints unless you have installed that part seperately.
try milky 6682 if u havent tried it ..... consumes 34mb memory on default