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Okay, so I'm an idiot. I'm completely lost now. Here's the basic facts:
Hard-SPL install was unsuccessful, but I didn't notice. So I'm still with original SPL.
I started upgrading the ROM with original SPL, which of course crashes at 3 percent.
Now I can't get back into WM. It's stuck at the 'smart mobility screen'.
So the problem is: it won't let me install any ROMs because original SPL is still on there. I can't change to hard-SPL anymore either. The ROM that's on the machine doesn't seem to work anymore. When I try to install an original ROM it says I can't use this utility. I think I need to download an official ROM + installer, but I can't find any from HTC.
Alright, so skip all the noob and idiot comments please, I already know. But where do I go from here?
Please help!
Bricked Cruise
hansdekker said:
Okay, so I'm an idiot. I'm completely lost now. Here's the basic facts:
Hard-SPL install was unsuccessful, but I didn't notice. So I'm still with original SPL.
I started upgrading the ROM with original SPL, which of course crashes at 3 percent.
Now I can't get back into WM. It's stuck at the 'smart mobility screen'.
So the problem is: it won't let me install any ROMs because original SPL is still on there. I can't change to hard-SPL anymore either. The ROM that's on the machine doesn't seem to work anymore. When I try to install an original ROM it says I can't use this utility. I think I need to download an official ROM + installer, but I can't find any from HTC.
Alright, so skip all the noob and idiot comments please, I already know. But where do I go from here?
Please help!
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First you can try a hard reset!
Here you can download the original shipped rom with installer.
ftp://xda:[email protected]_radio_sign_25.65.30.04_1.58.21.23_Ship.exe
kr.,
Frepke
Update
Update
Okay, so I did the hard reset as described here. No luck.
So I went back to the bootloader screen (original SPL) and tried the original rom and installer from the download link. Again, no luck. It says "Error [294] Invalid Vender ID. This utility cannot be used for your PDA phone. Please check your update utility." The phone was unlocked when I bought it, it's HTC branded. Is there another installer out there?
I've also tried loading several roms by putting them on SD, renamed as POLAIMG.nbh. (including the orginal rom, extracted from the downloaded installer). For the original Rom, it will say 'loading...', then 'checking...' and then it will tell me: "00028002 - not allow". Then it goes back to the three colour spl screen.
There's also a link here on the forum which I'm not sure is good advice.
Three colour screen info
Pola100
Spl-1.25.0000
Cpld-2
hansdekker said:
Update
Okay, so I did the hard reset as described here. No luck.
So I went back to the bootloader screen (original SPL) and tried the original rom and installer from the download link. Again, no luck. It says "Error [294] Invalid Vender ID. This utility cannot be used for your PDA phone. Please check your update utility." The phone was unlocked when I bought it, it's HTC branded. Is there another installer out there?
I've also tried loading several roms by putting them on SD, renamed as POLAIMG.nbh. (including the orginal rom, extracted from the downloaded installer). For the original Rom, it will say 'loading...', then 'checking...' and then it will tell me: "00028002 - not allow". Then it goes back to the three colour spl screen.
There's also a link here on the forum which I'm not sure is good advice.
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Hi
Ths info I posted relates to the Kaiser (kaiser [nearly] equals Polaris in terms of hardware) and the MTTY is from the ELF forum.
"set 16 0" to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset.
"task 8" to get your device formatted
I suggest the set 16 0 and a reset to see if that helps, I do advocate you searching for these commands and checking they are applicable.
The info was from this KAISER thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2103884
HTH
Leon
MTTY
Thanks for your advice guys.
I tried the "set 16 0" command + reset. Still same situation.
Any other tips anyone?
Darn
No more reponses?
It is probably bricked then.
So what's my next move...trash it?
hansdekker said:
No more reponses?
It is probably bricked then.
So what's my next move...trash it?
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try flashing using sd card
Tupac_Shakur said:
try flashing using sd card
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I think he wrote already that he tried to flash some ROMS using SD card... (POLAIMG.NBH). Not sure though if he tried re Hard-SPL'ing using the SD flash method...
So I would suggest to retry the HardSPL using the POLAIMG.NBH method (just as if the HardSPL's .NBH file was a normal ROM) if this hasn't been tried yet...
Hey you must careffuly read mtty in kaiser thread.....mtty can brick your device for entire life.....my advice to you is pm GSLEON3
he's the master of using mtty and lot of kaiser user saved by him...
Hope this can help you
cheers
The Facts
When I try to hard-spl through the SD-card, it just says "Loading..." and that's where it stays - Even if I leave it till the battery dies. I tried the 2.10 and 1.10 versions on this page.
Are you sure? This Hard SPL suit for Hermes. You have to use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375338
TB
Hard-SPL through SD
You're right; I did notice that - however
I had to take an nbh from this page. The reason is that the HTC Cruise Hard-SPL program I found on this page won't let me extract the rom.
I need the rom file to put in on SD!
The Hermes one probably wouldn't work anyway though, thats a good point Where to get the Polaris separate rom nbh? I haven't found it on the forums. Maybe I'm going blind...
How to flash your Polaris using the microSD card [Guide]
hansdekker said:
You're right; I did notice that - however
I had to take an nbh from this page. The reason is that the HTC Cruise Hard-SPL program I found on this page won't let me extract the rom.
I need the rom file to put in on SD!
The Hermes one probably wouldn't work anyway though, thats a good point Where to get the Polaris separate rom nbh? I haven't found it on the forums. Maybe I'm going blind...
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Hi,
Try this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384084
How to flash your Polaris using the microSD card [Guide]
TB
It's starting to seem really hopeless
Thanks.
Same result. The screen just says "Loading..." and stays there.
hansdekker said:
Thanks.
Same result. The screen just says "Loading..." and stays there.
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unplug usb and replug it
hansdekker said:
You're right; I did notice that - however
I had to take an nbh from this page. The reason is that the HTC Cruise Hard-SPL program I found on this page won't let me extract the rom.
I need the rom file to put in on SD!
The Hermes one probably wouldn't work anyway though, thats a good point Where to get the Polaris separate rom nbh? I haven't found it on the forums. Maybe I'm going blind...
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1. You can not flash hard-spl with microSD method! (hard-spl flash use jumpspl to ignore cid-lock. But with microSD card method you will not use jumpspl, so you can not flash hard-spl! (and to use microSD method you have to have hard-spl on your pda)
2. If you unzip hard-spl on your pc will be an RUU_signed.nbh. This is the rom file, but you can not to flash it with microSD.
3. Your device is bricked, I think. Take it to repair!
after an unsuccessful flash, u shud never try to flash again, high chance of permanently bricking your pda. go contact GSLEON3, he saved my kaiser from bricking when i made the same mistake as u. helpful fellow. make sure u donate lol
Accepted Defeat
Hi
I accepted defeat and exchanged the unit.
Thanks for all the help.
H
I was just trying to flas a new radio and when I connected my Polaris to my PC it was no longer recognized on my computer. Now I have tried several different computers where my other HTC phone works fine, but the Touch Cruise won't. Has anyone an idea what could be wrong or is there a way to flash a new radio from the bootloader? Would be thankful for any help.
regards
Manny
i know somewhere in this forum is a topic about how to flash phone with sd card, ive seen it somewhere in the polaris upgrading i believe.... maybe an option?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384084 here is a guide howto
Instructions
Thank you so much for sending the link. I will try this now.
regards
np, hope it will work...
Tried to flash from micro sd car, but didn't work either, I guess it is because I don't have the proper bootloader /Hard-SPL installed. I wonder if there is a way to install the HARD-SPL.
that my friend, i dont know... maybe others can help ya... good luck with that!
Hi there guys,
i have i question/problem. Yesterday i wanted to flash my cruise with the dutch M-Amine-rom. I,ve done some flashes with my old wizard somewere like a year ago. Now I did read the polaris/cruise-wike, did succesfully install hardspl. I made an activesync-connection and brought my cruise in bootloader-mode. The problem (for me though) was that when te cruise comes in bootloader mode there was no more activesync-connection, there seems to be an usb-connection because in the tree-collored screen you can see 'usb'. My problem is that de second RUU-screen makes you clear that there has to be an active-sync-connection before you can flash/update your rom. So i didn't flash because i was affraid to brick my phone. Maybe it's normal and maybe the RUU will make the connection when running but i cant find the answer to that question. Can somebody help me? Is it normal that there's no active-sync-connection in bootloader-mode? Will the RUU make the connection and flash the device anyway?
Second strange thing: i secondly decided to flash with my sd instead according the discribed procedure. I ended up with an os with the number 1.28.00.00!!! So just an older version of wm6!!?? Afterwards I flashed back the official rom (3.13...) without being in bootloader but with an activesync connection because i thought with the official one you don't have to be in bootloader. Is this a right thought?? Anyway, I succeeded to replace original rom.
Sweat on the forehead!
Thanks in advance for great help.
Greetz!
Should I remove this tread after getting an answer?
Relax Ron - you have nothing to fear
The behaviour you describe in bootloader mode is normal - no need for activesync. You can click OK and away you'll go!
As for flashing from your sd card, only thing I can think of is that you somehow renamed an old nbh file, rather than the M-Amine nbh you were trying to flash.
I've used both methods (the sd card way has got me out of trouble a couple of times) and they both work fine.
Good luck!
cr1960 said:
Relax Ron - you have nothing to fear
The behaviour you describe in bootloader mode is normal - no need for activesync. You can click OK and away you'll go!
As for flashing from your sd card, only thing I can think of is that you somehow renamed an old nbh file, rather than the M-Amine nbh you were trying to flash.
I've used both methods (the sd card way has got me out of trouble a couple of times) and they both work fine.
Good luck!
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Thanks for quick reply. I'll try to flash this day. In fact i'm quit sure it was the right nbh-file, so that part of the problem still remains a mystery. You're a great help, Thank you.
Steady Ron said:
Thanks for quick reply. I'll try to flash this day. In fact i'm quit sure it was the right nbh-file, so that part of the problem still remains a mystery. You're a great help, Thank you.
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Anyway if you have problems or you are not sure on how to proceed ... go here and read, is a very nice guide for Polaris
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381600
ciao ciao
bimiki said:
Anyway if you have problems or you are not sure on how to proceed ... go here and read, is a very nice guide for Polaris
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381600
ciao ciao
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Thanks, i know that tread. I've spend lots of ours reading and searching before flashing because i want to prepare myself. I don't want to be some idiot that starts flashing before he knows what he is doing you know.
By the way. I downloaded the rom again to be really sure i have the right file.
Again thanks for your help!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, I succeeded!
Thanks to you all! Long live xda!
Greetz.
i want to install the touchflo II ROM ive looked at every guide but i just get confused lol.... with the whole hardSPL and stuff
the way i see it is
find out if my device is G3 or G4
select the right one
then run HardSPL
Then Flash the ROM using prophet tools?
the soft reset after everything is done
Am i along the right tracks ... cheers
Darkzy
...
why does no one reply .... 45 views and nothing???
Bequause you give yourself the right answer.
ok
ok cheers
do i have to hardSPL after the rom flash... and do i have to flash using xp or can i use sevem
also hardspl should i take sim out for the process of everything cheers
Darkzy55 said:
do i have to hardSPL after the rom flash... and do i have to flash using xp or can i use sevem
also hardspl should i take sim out for the process of everything cheers
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if you flash the nvid rom you wont have hard spl but if its any rom other than that you will still have your hard spl.you can check if you still have hard spl when you switch your phone on. Its easier to flash with xp but in the new wm6.5 roms it will have the option to choose the vista option.select the vista option because its the same with seven.i personally take the sim and memory card out.hope this helps
hi
I have got a bricked HTC ELF with a tri-colour screen.(red, green and blue). I did try matty.exe and found that cid is locked. g_cKeyCardSecurityLevel = FF
I dont have the original firmaware backed up. and could not find anywhere on this site and internet.
device id: ELF010050
cid: HTC E11
IPL 1.17.002
SPL: 1.17.0000
Is there any way to find the original rom or is there any way to unlock the cid and then just put any rom on it? I dont have the working pda or wm device to do goldcard method. I know there is way to do the goldcard method without the WM device but then I need a desktop or laptop with a PCI or internal cardreader installed whereas I have got a usb card reader.
can usb card reader do the goldcard method without the wm device?
any suggestion will be appreciated since it has been almost 3 years for me to get my device back to life.
regards
plz suggest.
regards
Hi mate,
All info you need is in the stickies and /or using search function. You need to unlock cid and flash custom rom. BTW tri-colour screen is called Bootloader.
Ps: there was no reason to open a new thread for that ...
hi
thanx for the reply
I have been reading the stickies but could not find
the specific soultion for my problem. can u send me a link or step by step instruction?
regards
Moved to general as this does not belong in development.
There's no need for a step by step guide, all the information is in the wiki or stickies.
hi
I have runout of options and tried almost all. still no success. I was asked to
read stickies which I did but still no use.
no one seems to be answering the question. haha
anyway I have not given up hope.
regards
Yea!! That's the spirit
I can answer to the card reader: as far as I know it has to be an on board reader, otherwise it masks/hides something with the cardid.
hi
hmmm. so that means cardreader option has gone too. haha.
anyway thanx for letting me know that.
so the only option left for me is too wait for someone to send the original
rom so that I can download it and put on my HTC P3450.
regard
I wouldnt hand around for too long waiting for someone to upload the stock firmware, it may never happened to be honest.
Do you know the original operator for the phone? It is possible, at a push, that it may be lurking on a website still, just hard to find. That could possibly yeild a result, hopefully.
If you post, I may have a look - but again, I can't promise anything!
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I wouldnt hand around for too long waiting for someone to upload the stock firmware, it may never happened to be honest.
Do you know the original operator for the phone? It is possible, at a push, that it may be lurking on a website still, just hard to find. That could possibly yeild a result, hopefully.
If you post, I may have a look - but again, I can't promise anything!
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What's the damage if he tries all the roms, one after the other ? If there's none, gogagogi might get lucky
His phone is still CID locked. I guess it could potentially be a brick. I think, that or it won't let you flash the rom at all. I forget which - been a while!
gogagogi: Have you tried seeing if you can flash ipl/spl from SD card - never been in the position you're in so just curious.
Hi
yes it is cid locked. I did try to flash few stock roms which I thought similar to the rom I have got
on my device through usb data cable but no luck. after 2% or 3% is says invalid vendor ID. then I tried through micro sd card but same result.
then I tried unbricker rom through usb and micro sd card but same result.
even I tried to change the vendor id through a softerare called xvi32. that is
a hex reader. open the .nbh file and change the vendor id but the result was no good. it said " the file or image has been corrupted"
and I never tried to flash ipl and spl.
regards
can you give the IPL/USPL a go to see what happens? (its a link to it for you)
Also, whats was your opertor, not sure if i missed it.
hi
when I bought it, it was on T-mobile. but it was sim free. thanx for the link.
I will have a look.
regards
t-mobile uk sorry or something else?
hi
it was on T-mobile NL.(netherlands).
I did have a look at the link u sent it to me.
after reading it, I found out that Microsoft ActiveSYnc has to be green first.(connected).
whereas it can not be connected, if the device is stuck on bootloader so this option has gone too.
the only option so far is, either I find out the original rom or if I can find out some matty.exe commands which can help me unlock the CID so that I can put any rom.
matty.exe is working fine so far.
so what do u think?
regards
gogagogi:
I don't appreciate the message you have sent to my personal in box to be honest, You're lucky I am replying to you at all!
When in bootloader does it say RUU at the top right? And does it pick up USB connection? Have you tried to flash via SDCARD the IPL/SPL roms?
I have a job, a daughter, and a live out side of XDA. If I do not reply to a thread, it means I am thinking, have missed it by accident, or am simply just too busy. I do not get paid to be here, I am not a moderator, I am just a member like yourself, I do not expect to get private messages hassling me to reply to a thread.
The Elf isnt even my main device. I use a HTC Hero (Android), and have done for quite a long time now. I look in here simply to help out other people who are still using this device.
Thanks, Stu
well it does say ruu text at the right top corner and it does say usb at the bottom.
as I said it does connect through Matty.exe.
well I did not mean to disturb you. I was just wondering cuz u were replying me before and then just stopped.
so mate you just chill.
ignore any previous questions from me.
regards
OKay, as the ruu is there, you should still be able to flash a from that point - I have done this a fair few times.
Have you tried the IPL/SPL yet?