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Manila 3d on Touch?

Hi folks,
i saw some threads in the development section for manila 2d (which really looks cool). I'm wondering if this works on my HTC Touch!? I'm also not sure if there is a cab install version available - or is a rom flash needed (don't want to do that again...)
has anybody already some experiance with manila 2d?
thanks for any information!

you'll notice that there's a thread a few posts down with the Title "touchFLO 2D on ELF" this is the same thing as Manila 2D. It's a simple cab install and works just fine.

Just try it you will love it.

Looks good, but it doesn't work as it should. On my Elfin Audio Mgr 2 doesn't start, system runs veeery slowly even after uninstalling TF2D (hard reset helps) and cable is causing system freeze :/

just tried it and it really looks cool! It works without any problems...
Sad thing is, that its not working together with any other today plugins...

Install SecondToday:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_wm_tools_im_cs.htm

nuke1 said:
Install SecondToday:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_wm_tools_im_cs.htm
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yeah thats really cool! I have mapped the app to my camera button and so i can switch very fast - perfekt

Touchflow 3D
I also have some problems with this panel, after I installed it to my Xperia I have serious problems, it's look great but it's very slow and after open a few other panels my phone just block, I've to reset the Xperia and then I can go on, so I deside to uninstall it but now way it stay's, and after looking in my installed programms it is gone??? I can't uninstall it and I suppose that the only sollution could be a factory restore. I'ts a pitty it don't work like it should be cause I find it a great interface so if anyone could give us some advise they're welcome. I did install the second little program tf3d_panel but even that bring it to full speed and error free

manila on htc touch hd
As the title says, i run on my htc touch hd. where can i find a tutorial on how to install manila on this kind of phone step-by-step ? (tutorial for noobs as you may say) I am totally away from this phone technology and i've found a lot of posts but for htc touch and not touch hd. i want to know which files i must install, where i find them and how can i change the theme. Please, help a noob

Atharia said:
As the title says, i run on my htc touch hd. where can i find a tutorial on how to install manila on this kind of phone step-by-step ? (tutorial for noobs as you may say) I am totally away from this phone technology and i've found a lot of posts but for htc touch and not touch hd. i want to know which files i must install, where i find them and how can i change the theme. Please, help a noob
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Atharia,
Just as nobody has replied and I don't want you to be left in the dark
Have you checked anything in the blackstone forum? That would be a more appropriate place for you to be searching. I understand you may have search for HTC Touch, and that would probabaly be why you came here.
On the other hand though, I think you're phone may actually come with what had been ported to this phone - don't quote me on that but I am sure that it had touchflo as standard?
Stu

[3/12/08] HTC Touch HD TouchFLO 3D for VGA Devices (like Diamond or Raphael)!

Hey guys,
Even though I don't have a Diamond or Raphael, I decided to take a stab at this one, because I've seen many people requesting it.
So, without further ado, here is the download link for the dumped Manila from the HTC Touch HD:
http://www.4shared.com/file/74338802/4bedbf7a/MBarvian_Blackstone_Manila.html
And if it doesn't work, the link to the Touch Pro TouchFLO 3D:
http://www.4shared.com/file/74338804/a28e1a4f/MBarvian_Raphael_Manila.html
Please report back with your findings!

Hi my friend, i´d like to try this HD Manila but your links don´t work, can u please upload somewhere else?
Cheers

ikow this is probabaly a dumb question..but if im runnin a FUZE with TF3D why would i want the Touch HD version?
is there significant differences?
Late,
Jstar

JstarLuvsTina said:
ikow this is probabaly a dumb question..but if im runnin a FUZE with TF3D why would i want the Touch HD version?
is there significant differences?
Late,
Jstar
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yes, like the ability to customize manila (change order of tabs, etc.), (should have) a smoother experience, and a whole new stock tab!

updated links, should work now

mbarvian said:
updated links, should work now
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Now all is fine, thanks
I´ll report my findings soon.
Cheers

mbarvian said:
yes, like the ability to customize manila (change order of tabs, etc.), (should have) a smoother experience, and a whole new stock tab!
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ok..so its easier than the manila customizer to customizer?? and the stock tabs are better, how? what makes them better?
should i just shut the hell up and try it..its ok, u can say so

JstarLuvsTina said:
ok..so its easier than the manila customizer to customizer?? and the stock tabs are better, how? what makes them better?
should i just shut the hell up and try it..its ok, u can say so
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that's ok!
it is very easy to customize. I believe it's in the Settings tab that you can change the order (left to right) of the tabs by dragging and dropping. Also, you have a stocks tab on your Fuze?

mbarvian said:
that's ok!
it is very easy to customize. I believe it's in the Settings tab that you can change the order (left to right) of the tabs by dragging and dropping. Also, you have a stocks tab on your Fuze?
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"stock" like "stock quotes"? like dow jones..if thats what ur talkin about THATS ****IN FANTASTIC .. i could so use that, especially with the changes comming down the ladder in the next few months.
ok ok.. im downloading now
now i need a stripped ROM with out TF3D

mbarvian said:
Hey guys,
Even though I don't have a Diamond or Raphael, I decided to take a stab at this one, because I've seen many people requesting it.
So, without further ado, here is the download link for the dumped Manila from the HTC Touch HD:
http://www.4shared.com/file/74338802/4bedbf7a/MBarvian_Blackstone_Manila.html
And if it doesn't work, the link to the Touch Pro TouchFLO 3D:
http://www.4shared.com/file/74338804/a28e1a4f/MBarvian_Raphael_Manila.html
Please report back with your findings!
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This's probably a dumb question, but what's the different between yours and the one release from Mun_rus?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443777
Is this with the weather tab position fixed?
Thanks.

landscape mode supported? I'm waiting for someone that tweaks manilaHD with action screen from raphael to port it on xperia

BTW TOuch HD is WVGA. this one apparantly is for WVGA because I've tried and can't see all the bottom part.

arcanehacker said:
BTW TOuch HD is WVGA. this one apparantly is for WVGA because I've tried and can't see all the bottom part.
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well aint that a slap in the sack..
im installing it now .. this outta be interesting to see on my FUZE

ok, i installed this app but i can't find the execute file in the programs menu?
I have the HTC Pro

touchflo3d
does it work on htc athena ?

didnt work at all on my Fuze.
had to hardreset to get my original back to normal.
ill wait..its ok

no go for diamond here, tap here to launch touch flo --> starting touch flo -- > repeat couple of times and then crashes.. darn..

hoankhang000 said:
does it work on htc athena ?
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I'd like that answer too. Any perceived problems in just trying it anybody (assuming the device has hard SPL that is)?

Doesn't work
On my Athena (VGA, WM 6, original ROM) I tried the Blackstone TF3D, after install it went into a loop
1 - "Tap here to launch TouchFlo 3D"
2 - "Launching TouchFlo"
Then back to 1 again, after a few loops it froze
After complete uninstall of Blackstone, I tried the Diamond TF3D, all files copied but no setting, or program to launch, it also did not appear in Settings/Today/Items where it could be checked.
Was looking forward to giving some better feedback than this but neither TF3D runs at all.

arcanehacker said:
BTW TOuch HD is WVGA. this one apparantly is for WVGA because I've tried and can't see all the bottom part.
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does this issue affect all tabs?
I was aware of this, but thought it would not affect all tabs

[Skin] VGA Audio Manager and Skins

Now i do not know if you can use these while using touchflo.
I dont use touchflo obviously
But works on my Touch Pro
If you find you CAN use these with TouchFlo, let me know.

is there a skin or a standalone verison that will display the album art like on M2D for us VGA users who don't like using TouchFlo?

hey bud, let me explain something i have looked high and low for the exact same thing.
and i as of yet found nothing.
now nitrogen does.. but im a huge fan of the AM.
and for AM no luck

thanks for the reply, hopefully there'll be one soon

Thanks
nhvoltagenh said:
Now i do not know if you can use these while using touchflo.
I dont use touchflo obviously
But works on my Touch Pro
If you find you CAN use these with TouchFlo, let me know.
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These skins are available at SkinZone.org Thanks Voltage!

What version is it? Cuz I'm currently using Audio Manager version 2.0 (build 1819.1228) and I miss out a full touch feature to browse the playlists with my finger instead of using the tiny rightside scroll-bar...
does this one have that feature mabye?

VGA HTC Audio Manager
As it says in the title, can be found here in the Diamond forum.
Edit It's v2.2 and shows album art correctly.

uniqueboy said:
As it says in the title, can be found here in the Diamond forum.
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and yet i dont have a diamond therefore i didnt post it in the diamond area. makes sence to me.

nhvoltagenh said:
and yet i dont have a diamond therefore i didnt post it in the diamond area. makes sence to me.
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Hi there, what version of audio manager are your very nice skins for? I am looking for VGA skins for 2.2. And you have a nice looking site there too!
It makes no sense not to have a diamond!
Edit: Having trouble registering on your site, I will try again tomorrow.

TouchFLO, Manila, 2D, 3D ???

I remember reading somewhere that Touch3G aka Jade has TouchFlo 2.
But on my Jade if I go to Settings/System/TouchFLO it says:
TouchFLO version 3.0 (build 31508).
So what do I have? Manila, Touchflo, 2D, 3D ??? Could somebody please explain the HTC language to me?
Also, specific to the Jade, what is the difference between themes and skins? Isn't it the same? I am reasonably computer literate, but like clear definitions of things.
Reading through the posts on Manila modifications, one poster stated:
What version of TouchFLO have you installed? You need to have at least M2D version 20
How come that my phone is new, and I only have version 3??
Thanks for help
Joe

Manilla 2D

The Jade has TouchFlo 2D (as in 2 dimensional) also known as Manila 2D, TF2D or M2D.
Themes and skins are, afaik, the same, and the person stating that you have to have at least version 20 means version 2.0 actually.
'Manila' btw is HTC's codename for the Touchflo interface
Touchflo 3D (also known as Manila 3D, TF3D of M3D) is a different story.
Whether a HTC phone has TouchFlo 2D or 3D depends on the capacity and resolution of the screen. The Jade has a QVGA screen (quarter VGA aka 240 x 320 pixels) and can't handle the TF3D animations and touch posibilities.
A phone with a VGA screen (640 x 480 pixels), like the Diamond, usually has Touhflo 3D.
Fellow forumers, plz correct me if i'm wrong....but this is what i know.
Hope i helped you out a bit

Thank you Nirak for help. So I have TouchFLO 2D v.3.
If have a few more questions for those who modified their Touchflo -
If I want to change my Touchflo, I understand I have two choices -
Uninstall it (don't know how) and find and install a new one; or
modify the existing one with registry edits and/or Manila Customiser.
This Customiser - is it basically a new additional program that runs alongside the existing TouchFLO, or is it something like a registry editor that only modifies the existing TouchFLO and can be later uninstalled?
Thanks
Joe

jfranek said:
If I want to change my Touchflo, I understand I have two choices
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If you want to change (I assume modify/customise) you can do many things including changing the registry, yes and also change the graphics, etc.
jfranek said:
This Customiser - is it basically a new additional program that runs alongside the existing TouchFLO, or is it something like a registry editor that only modifies the existing TouchFLO and can be later uninstalled?
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AFAIK, briefly the customiser (M2DC) does not run alongside. It's just a program that does (simplify) the registry editing and a few *.xml files (for customisation) for those who do not wish to dwell into. yes M2DC can be uninstalled (after using) and TF2D runs fine.
I am not sure how to uninstall TF2D but you can always deactivate if you do not wish to use it and use other today themes or plugins, etc.

uninstalling TF2D that is included (cooked) in your ROM is not possible, but as Azahidi says, you can deactivate it and use the standard Windows interface, or any other shell you prefer, like SPB Mobile Shell, and there are others.
Basically TF2D is also just a shell round your Windows Mobile System, that's suppossed to make it easier to use (not always is...) and more 'eye candier' .
The M2DCustomizer is a easy to use utility to modify the settings of TF2D and use other skins, look over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425974 (older skins)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451702
Since i'm not that much of a techi i like using M2D Customizer, but just like Azahidi says, these modifyings can also be done by editing the registry and/or .xml files
To give you an idea, here is a screenshot of my Jade's homepage with basically the standard TF2D, modified with another skin:

Thanks azahidi and Nirak.
I've been reading all those posts several times, it is starting to make some sense.
Looking at the M2D Customizer - I believe it will back up the existing factory Touchflo and I can restore it if the mods did not work or I did not like them. Is this correct?
Apart from other mods, I would like to change the email widget to a 'Tasks' widget. I would like to see a different icon instead of the envelope and instead of the sheet of paper sticking out of the envelope I would like to see a list of tasks etc.
I don't think that the Manila Customiser can do that. Is that correct?
And I don't think I could achieve this by getting a new skin, could I ?
Maybe there is a program somewhere to design a complete shell from scratch on desktop PC??
Joe

I think you should test Spb-Mobile Shell 3. It is very good.
14 days-trial and information here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/

Thanks, MvBoe, I think I will try it.
Joe

jfranek said:
Thanks azahidi and Nirak.
I've been reading all those posts several times, it is starting to make some sense.
Looking at the M2D Customizer - I believe it will back up the existing factory Touchflo and I can restore it if the mods did not work or I did not like them. Is this correct
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Yep, totally, just remember first thing to do is making a back up of your original theme, M2D Customizer has a tab for it ('restore')
jfranek said:
Apart from other mods, I would like to change the email widget to a 'Tasks' widget. I would like to see a different icon instead of the envelope and instead of the sheet of paper sticking out of the envelope I would like to see a list of tasks etc.
I don't think that the Manila Customiser can do that. Is that correct?
And I don't think I could achieve this by getting a new skin, could I ?
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Correct again
jfranek said:
Maybe there is a program somewhere to design a complete shell from scratch on desktop PC??
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I really have no clue if sucha program exists.

stupid question
Hello,
I have got pure WM6.5 on my device without any graphic enviroment like Touch 2D or something. Is it possible to install only this enviroment (Touch 2D - is it Manila 2D?) ? And how?
Sorry for the noob quiestion...

Matio said:
Hello,
I have got pure WM6.5 on my device without any graphic enviroment like Touch 2D or something. Is it possible to install only this enviroment (Touch 2D - is it Manila 2D?) ? And how?
Sorry for the noob quiestion...
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You can install anything on your device, depending on the purpose and your liking, and how you want to customise your today screen. Yes you can install Manilla2D (TF2D). Just search xda, get (download) the .cab file to your PC, copy to your device (or download straight to your device) and then run it.

Many thanks for your answer azahidi.
I tried to install M2D as you told me. I folowed the guide witch is here. So that I have installed HTC Home v 2.1. and after that [11.3.08-Update 20] M2D Build 1.0.18203328 - Jade (TOUCH 3G Version). Restarted device, but nothing happened. When I turn my Home screen as TouchFLO, on my screen appeares text: "Tap here to launch TouchFLO" and when I tap there, the whole device becomes to be totally frozen.
Can anyone help?

MvBoe said:
I think you should test Spb-Mobile Shell 3. It is very good.
14 days Trial and information here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/
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I greatly agree. SPB Shell is 10 times better and user friendlier then TF2D. I had TF2D for about a week and tried out SPB Shell 3.5 and I have never gone back. I am one happy customer.

Any possibility for Manila 2D 2.0.1919.1432 work on palm treo pro?

Since GSM hspl unlock ready, palm treo pro rom & app development should get rapid progress,
I remember last time after installing 'Manila 320 square' on my HP and it looks great, but yesterday when I tried to install 'Manila 2D 2.0.1919.1432 WM6.1 patched', after installation finish, touchFLO launching failed.
Does anyone get any ideas on this? how to fix this?

So, nobody interested on this?
I am so said.......
manila2d 2.0.19191432 looks really beautiful! The flipping clock, weather on front tab, everything sounds nice!

IT runs ok but does not resize properly
I have installed the walien cab's for this manila 2d and it runs fine on my 6.5 rom but is not sized properly. If someone has a theme which will run fine it will be great.

harshalgunde said:
I have installed the walien cab's for this manila 2d and it runs fine on my 6.5 rom but is not sized properly. If someone has a theme which will run fine it will be great.
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size won't be the problem, it can be easily fixed by XML,
i also installed walien's cab before, but softkey doesn't work on my TP.
plus, letters doesn't shown on each tab, for example 'settings tab'

I was working on porting this to the Treo Pro, I was basically 75% done. Just felt like the project died though, maybe if I got more support it could help. Check out my porting thread at PPCGeeks on Manila 2.0 for Treo Pro
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88901

koolcdj69 said:
I was working on porting this to the Treo Pro, I was basically 75% done. Just felt like the project died though, maybe if I got more support it could help. Check out my porting thread at PPCGeeks on Manila 2.0 for Treo Pro
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88901
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Looks pretty good, i'm gonna try it out.

devilcuban said:
Looks pretty good, i'm gonna try it out.
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hey, man, just like what I say on ppcgeeks,
it's a suffering experience for such huge memory consuming but without flipping/dynamic clock, I remember last manila version is 1.0.1818 3719, cost you 5MB memory after installation finish, and it looks no different with manila 2.0.1917....

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