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SMS program

Hi Folks,
This is my first post, although I've owned my XDAIIs for several weeks and I've ROM'd it to the iMATE 1.4 ROM. So I've had a good play.
I was looking at smsOrganizer (from Jeyo) which is badly supported (and it ain't free) and I wondered why I (we) couldn't write something to do the same thing, for free.
Is there a forum for this kind of activity, or could someone point me in the direction of some exmples of how to pass data between the PC and phone?
Best regards
AndrwB

Andrew, look into RAPI: eg here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/default.asp?url=/archive/en-us/dnarppc2k/html/ppc_teapppi.asp
Development and Hacking is the right place for this kind of query...what do you want the app to do?
V

Hi V,
Basically I want to control the SMS message transfer on my XDA from Outlook, just like smsOrganizer.
Re. your link, I think we've got those? but I generally write embedded C, non of this fancy C++ stuff :-((
AndrewB

Hi V,
I just tried this :
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307256
And I can now copy files to and from my device
Not bad for 1 hours playing, specially as I've fixed 2 work related bugs too )
Andrew B

Good stuff.
I'm just learning C++ actually, I never learnt C, coming from self-taught VB on the PC.
RAPI is the way to do most PC<>PDA communications, although right now I'm only just getting into sms stuff. It'd be easy enough (I think) to write an interface to create an SMS on the PC in text, transmit that to the PDA and then SMS it off, but the backend of it would require some implementation.
Keep us posted though!
V

99% of c programs should compile and work just fine on
c++ compilers and you can write c++ programs without using
oop in which case they are pretty much c programs

From what I've read it looks as if you need to write an app to sit on the device and another app on the main PC. The app on the phone just acts as an agent passing data between the sms services and the PC.
Anybody got any ideas?
AndrewB

Yipeeeee
I can now write a DLL that sits on the device and I can write a C++ application on my PC to communicate with it
Now to start reading some text messages from the device to the PC......

Does anybody know agood way to send and recieve SMS ?? I would also like to edit the text and pass it to an Edit Box.
I am not too sure about the available API's that will let me do this.
Please HELP :shock:

Hey , i would like to send and recieve SMS on my xda2. Also pass the recieved message into an Edit Control. Does anybody know a good way to do this ??
I know about the SMS API but i am unaware of others. Pleas Help !! thnkx

SMS Auto sending
Hi everybody,
Is there a way to auto send all sms in draft? Basically, every sms in draft folder needs to be send one by one by ticking send button.

OK,
I can now send a text message from my PC to a DLL on my phone using RAPI, then send a SMS using MAPI.
The trouble is I can't get the subject and body fields to display correctly on my XDAIIs. Also I can't get the Name to appear instead of the number.
I'll try to post the code later on the understanding that it is FREE and we pool our experiences/knowledge.

Here is the code for the DLL and the PC program. Just press one of the keys on the tol bar to send the message. The number and message are hard coded.
There are ABSOLUTELY NO guarentees with this code, use it at you own risk.

can it recieve SMS as well ?? Has any body thought about other API's to use for sending and recieving SMS's maybe ?

Well.... Not yet.
This is my first ever .net VC++ program !!!!
There are lots of code snipets around but no full source code.
This is a work in progress project hence it is in the "Development and Hacking" fourm.
If you'd like to add some functionality to it......

I am asking because there seems to be a problem when trying to recieve SMS with SMS api as the HANDLE is already attributed to the messaging application (inbox/draft/outbox).
I believe you are using RAPI ? However i do not understand this API that well could u specify a bit more ?
Thanks for your help.

Hi nutitija,
I'm only using the RAPI function to pass parameters from my PC to the XDA. The actual sending of messages is done using the MAPI in the XDA.
My biggest problem is getting the subject/body and from fields to display correctly in the different XDA mail views.

devloper and hacker app of the year.. chat style sms... from the treo 750v

This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody

in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper

I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.

Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758

I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.

Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.

i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother

Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.

In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.

Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)

Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?

Multiple SMS To Single Contact Sender Tool

There are a couple of good tools on here, both called Group SMS, which allow you to send a single text to multiple contacts, at the same time. The relationship here is one to many.
I am looking for someone to develop a tool to do the opposite, i.e. the ability to select a number of texts to send to a single contact. The relationship here is many to one.
Is anyone interested in taking this challenge on? The preference would be to further develop one of the group SMS tools to be able to accomplish both tasks from within the same tool rather than having to run yet another small program on the PPC. Alternatively it might be useful to develop a tool that can undertake both core functions, ie one to many and many to one.
I run a HTC Tytn, so I am looking for the application to be optimised for use on this device.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cheers
WB

well you can use threaded sms. it basically gives you a chat style so you can keep typing away.

Sorry Bowlopho, you have completely misunderstood what I want. I don't want to cut & paste into a threaded SMS application, which is what I think you are referring to.
What I want to do is pick up several discreet text messages, all at once, and attach them to a single contact, then send in a one time operation only. I want them to remain as discreet messages when I send them, not blurred into one giant text.
I know exactly what I am looking for. Appreciate your input.
WB

to me sounds like a SMS Bomber with like different messages Yes?

Forgive my ignorance; SMS bomber? Sounds sinister. What does that do?
All I'm looking for is a tool that will let me send several discrete texts to one person in one overall selection process rather than to tediously have to repeat the process for each text message over and over.
The idea is a simple one and is the reverse of the tools already out here that allow one to send a single message to multiple/many contacts.
Thanks
WB

Hiya,
I'll add this to my Pocket SMS Manager, as it should be easy AND someone else requests it.
Pete

Pete,
Good to hear from you. If you are able to blend this into your tool then that would be an excellent result. How long would this take to develop/implement?
PM me if you need more detail in terms of what I am looking for, although it should be sufficiently clear from my posts in here. Incidentally, have not had chance to keep up with developments on your tool. Have you sorted the delays and slow updates, assumed to be caused by Activesync, that I reported to you some time ago?
Let me know.
Cheers
WB

wacky.banana said:
There are a couple of good tools on here, both called Group SMS, which allow you to send a single text to multiple contacts, at the same time. The relationship here is one to many.
I am looking for someone to develop a tool to do the opposite, i.e. the ability to select a number of texts to send to a single contact. The relationship here is many to one.
Is anyone interested in taking this challenge on? The preference would be to further develop one of the group SMS tools to be able to accomplish both tasks from within the same tool rather than having to run yet another small program on the PPC. Alternatively it might be useful to develop a tool that can undertake both core functions, ie one to many and many to one.
I run a HTC Tytn, so I am looking for the application to be optimised for use on this device.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cheers
WB
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WB -
Please elaborate more about what you want - just so that it's very clear your concept request is understood -
Having the idea scope would be helpful:
* What is the benefit of having this tool
* For what major purpose would it serve
* When you mention chaining a few selected texts together to send to one recipient, can you provide a theoretical example?
If you can provide some more detailed walk-through hypothetical scenarios, it would help me as well.
Thanks,
DSO

IMSMS,
Thanks for the response. I will develop some scenarios and email them to you so you can have a clear idea of what I am looking for.
Thanks
WB

Request: modify my code (will pay if necessary)

I'm was a web application developer for years. I'm dabbling in programming in a dialog/event environment by writing an app on my tilt. big change for me.
I wrote a simple app on my tilt that connects to a server, gets data, and reports it to a screen. This server will report send things that change as time goes on. The way I currently have the program, when the user selects "connect" it will connect, get the data, then log off. then it calls the report screen and updates the data. to get changes, you press the connect button again. It is working to this point!
As I understand it, it should be wrote using onReceive events and such. This is above my skill and my googling isnt finding much on how to do this, especially in a PPC environment. I've wrote this using MS Visual Sudio 8 using C++. It's a very simple application.
I'm wondering if someone would take what I have and modify the code to work so the connection stays active, and as data comes in, it takes that data in and update the report screen.
I'd think this would be pretty simple and menial for someone that codes is this environment daily.
I can paypal for this if the price is reasonable. Leave a reply here or PM if interested with desired price.
Thank you!

[Q/WIP/Need Help] Mass Text by Push of a Button

I am creating an application where it will send a pre-prepared text to selected people at a push of a button. The reason for this is that I am a volunteer firefighter and most of us have pagers. Some of us do not have pagers since the department ran out and they are not in the budget to buy more right now.
Anyways, I have the basic layout that I would like set up.... And that's about it. I am used to javascript but that is a little different then Java. I am using the Eclipse program to code.
Here's my priorities to get working first:
-Have a message sent when button is pushed (message can be hard coded now so it works. would like to be able to edit it later)
-Be able to select contacts the message is sent to
Future wishes:
-Be able to add new messages
-Be able to edit messages
-Manage messages (mainly a list of the messages in scrollable list view)(popup for Edit|Delete)
Example Message:
(DEPT NAME) Alert:
Fire Alarm Activation
Time sent: 1830
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So right now I need help with:
Adding the SMS service to send out the text message when the button is pressed
Selecting contacts to send the message to
Coding in the message
If you can find a guide on how to do that, it would be greatly appreciated. I am completely new to android programming so please don't bash me for something that may seem completely easy.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Probably a free app out there.
Why not just make a Contact with multiple phone numbers in it and create the text using default SMS app? If speed is of the essence, then pre-define some "codes" for certain events much like on a pager where you get a "911" from a caller.
And don't take this the wrong way because I know a few volunteers and appreciate their service because it is NOT "easy", but a PAGER? Haven't they gone the way of the floppy disk? LOL That's a damn tight budget there!

I have looked and haven't seen one that will fit my needs.
Speed is essence in this case because i want to be able to open up the app and then hit a button to send the text so I am not fiddling with my phone while driving to the station.
I have the basics of the program worked out. I have all the messages pre-set and sendable, but only to one person.
(for those looking for a guide on how to implement SMS messaging, this is a great one that shows you step by step: http://mobiforge.com/developing/story/sms-messaging-android)
I am now stuck on being able to send it to multiple people at the same time. Current code:
callStructureFire.setOnClickListener(new View.OnClickListener() {
@Override
public void onClick(View v) {
String msgText = "IHBVFD PAGE OUT:\nStructure Fire\nTimeout:"+formattedTime;
String contacts = "5556";
sendSMS(contacts, msgText);
}
});
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(Red is where the numbers go. I am using Eclipses emulator's to test so i have 5554(main) 5556 and 5558 (testing for receiving messages))
When I try to do "String contacts = "5556, 5558(with and without the space)";", it will send the message to the first phone but not the second. On a real phone, it does not send the messages at all.
I also still need to implement a contact selection which I have been looking on google for a few hours now and cant find a guide on how to do it. What I would like to happen is when you press the phones menu button, it gives the option to manage the recipients (or even a group) and for that selection to stick even if I leave the app/restart the phone/whatever.
I really would like to get this all done by Thursday night so I can start using it.
No offense taken. The thing is that my department is strictly volunteer. We get about 100 calls a year so we do not have the call volume to get paid. Being strictly volunteer also means the the city does not charge taxes to the residents. We are really only funded by donations and fundraisers (which we do 2-3 a month). With pagers (Minitor IV) being around $140+ on ebay and then $30-50 for programming them... Yeah... It gets kinda pricy for 4 pagers lol.

Can anyone help me get multiple contacts working at least? Really want to have this done soon.

Skull, I am guessing your Communications center does not support any type of email or txt ripnruns for calls?
If either are supported, we use IamResponding.com and also CADPage (free on the market). Our center only sends emails but we have it getting parsed down to a compact format and resent as TXT. PM me if you want/need more info.
I cannot speak enough about both of these solutions!

Our dispatcher is our police dept. We have recently talked about IAmResponding within the dept but that got shot down by the officers because that's an extra 3-800 a year... And again, not everyone has pagers so they still wouldn't really know if we have a call. I am still trying to get them to do the 2 month trial. CADpage isn't supported in my county.
We have looked into those, but for now this program is the only option that I can see :/