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XCPUScalar 2004 2.6

Hello,
Has anyone tried using XCPUScalar? There is a new version available released today. I'd just like to know your comments if it's worth it, and if this type of application is safe to use.
Poch

I use v2.53 which seems very stable.
I'm not sure how good it is at over-clocking and the real difference this makes yo the XDA's useability.
However, the fact that it can reduce CPU speed depending on need, and therefore extend battery life is quite useful.
From the release notes for 2.6, there are a couple of improvements I'd welcome, such as the ability to set the speed on boot rather than revert to default.

Is it stable...? Did it hardreset anyone?
Last time I tried to overclock a PDA was with one of my Ipaqs... it hard reset... and I never did it again...
Can someone give me enough reasurance to try this new piece of SW?
Thanks,
Chris

started using xcpu scalar last night, and i gotta say, its incredible!
got my xda2 running at 530mhz at the moment
before that i used to use pocket hack master, and was good, but complicated,* plus my xda2 would only run stable at 528mhz*
so i got 2mhz extra lol! ;-)
i highly recomend!!

Thank you!
But... how do you know up till what point is stable... and at what point it hardresets? How do you know you could push it to 530 rather than 500 or 700? You push it until it crashes? You get a warning message?
Sorry if the question is a bit naive :roll:
Thanks,
Chris

The maximum stable frequency for xda2 is 472-530 Mhz.
Where 472 has more benefits in stability and fatest memory clock.
Mine runs good on 530 in Os menu,but freezes instantly in hard processing soft..like Quake,WmPlayer.(it is also like to anaylze if some programs are running in background and don't support these frequencies)
Note: some application like Camera are more sensitive than others to overclocked fr. but personally I did only encontered benefits in Camera app with more fps.
A benchmark reported that in same cases better performance is on 400mhz and 472 max. (on xda2)
Faster overclock will only degrade your performance,but you can try it.. at least you will have to Soft-Reset or Hard-Reset your device,so backu-up first all your data.

aikon359 said:
started using xcpu scalar last night, and i gotta say, its incredible!
got my xda2 running at 530mhz at the moment
before that i used to use pocket hack master, and was good, but complicated,* plus my xda2 would only run stable at 528mhz*
so i got 2mhz extra lol! ;-)
i highly recomend!!
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There is no 2mhz extra,the real freq. is 528 but approx. to 530
Also Hack Master is recommende for more professional use,because it offer many options like no other overclock application.

I am sure you are interested to read the overclock results:
http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page729.html
Regards,
Ser

Overclocking

Has anyone managed to overclock the tytn with pocker hack master or xcpuscalar?
For me hack master freezes the device with every settings and
xcpuscalar only "underclocks". And shows false information about the device being overclocked.

Sorry no help here, its just nice to see a nother person who baught both

Overclocking utilities for the PDA tend to be CPU specific. You'll need a utility that is designed for the Samsung CPU.

But for what overclocking? I am really happy with the current cpu speed

TheBrit said:
Overclocking utilities for the PDA tend to be CPU specific. You'll need a utility that is designed for the Samsung CPU.
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Those progs are supposed to support samsung cpu's.
Not a hundred percent sure about the specifk models,
too lazy to check.
Allthou I remember reading something about samsungs power saving on wm5 resetting the speeds and those two programs developers inadept or unwilling to circumvent that. Im guessing the former.
Since otherwise am betting they would do it.
And yes the speed is great. but overcloking is fun.

can someone enlight me on the definition of the "stacked cpu"???
have been surfing the net but didn't found anything...
Thanking the one in advance
Peace
Wassalam

vend1a said:
can someone enlight me on the definition of the "stacked cpu"???
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I think it means that the cpu is soldered on the motherboard, you cannot "replace" it like in a normal computer.

Mucha gracias hermano *(pof)
Sounds like you Pof wasn't very sure anybody knows for sure or can someone just confirm this?
Respect
Wassalam

pof said:
vend1a said:
can someone enlight me on the definition of the "stacked cpu"???
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I think it means that the cpu is soldered on the motherboard, you cannot "replace" it like in a normal computer.
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I think it means that the cpu has many layers, so the stuff in the cpu is
stacked. Makes the cpu smaller etc.

kitos kitos J
I read something about what you say: something about first in last out or vice versa. in layer forms yes.
Something to figure out and post in webopedia or something trackable on the net.
Thanks again...
Respect
Wassalam

Overclocking works fine for me.
I use xcpuscalar in auto-mode with the current settings :
200 mhz - 0-20%
400 mhz - 20-70%
500 mhz - 70-100%
Have had no problems with it - and the 200 mhz saves battery.
/Martin

Inc said:
Overclocking works fine for me.
I use xcpuscalar in auto-mode with the current settings :
200 mhz - 0-20%
400 mhz - 20-70%
500 mhz - 70-100%
Have had no problems with it - and the 200 mhz saves battery.
/Martin
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Mind running a few benchmarks? And check the speed from somewhere else
then xcpuscalar, it gives false readings.

I wouldn't have any idea how to do that.
Martin

Inc said:
I wouldn't have any idea how to do that.
Martin
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Spb benchmark (free) and TCPMP also shows cpu speed, not sure about how reliably, but I guess more then xcpuscalar.
I would not trust xcpuscalars reading, when I tried it, it did too report 500mhz, but other programs showed 400 and benchmarks for 400 and 500 were the same.
The issue about xcpuscalars false readings has been discussed all over the net.

Under Clocking the unit really does not affect its stability, but really does extended the battery life, I have noticed about 40% increase in the battery life, when running the CPU at 200Mhz. :?

Stacked CPU
For an indepth article on the cpu in the TyTN that also completely answers your question on stacked cpu's visit:
http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20050927002711773

Has anyone tried PocketHackMaster 4.0 beta?

the beta 4.0 doesn't seem to support overclocking on the TyTN. Allegedly it will on the final version though...

Version v4.13.031 of Pocket Hackmaster has been released 12 Nov. 2006. Have anyone tried it? Thanks a lot!

Never mind. I tried it. Doesn't work. My TyTn needs a soft reset after testing.

HD2 clock speed lowered? Hmmm...

I remember a while ago, I downloaded an app from somewhere, called "Nuetools NueOverclockTest" Actually, it WAS designed for the HD Blackstone...moving on
The app did NOT work on the HD, as it crashed. However, it works on the HD2 (I presume)
My question is : Does it ACTUALLY LOWER THE CLOCK SPEED?
The HD2 is clocked at 1024 mhz, this program "overclocks" the HD to 768 mh from 528 mhz.....now, if this lowers the HD2 clock speed to 768 mhz...that could save a bit more battery life! Could someone perhaps check into this and see if the clock speed changes? Thanks a lot

Elemental_Fire said:
I remember a while ago, I downloaded an app from somewhere, called "Nuetools NueOverclockTest" Actually, it WAS designed for the HD Blackstone...moving on
The app did NOT work on the HD, as it crashed. However, it works on the HD2 (I presume)
My question is : Does it ACTUALLY LOWER THE CLOCK SPEED?
The HD2 is clocked at 1024 mhz, this program "overclocks" the HD to 768 mh from 528 mhz.....now, if this lowers the HD2 clock speed to 768 mhz...that could save a bit more battery life! Could someone perhaps check into this and see if the clock speed changes? Thanks a lot
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simple benchmark for yourself
download TCPMP or Coreplayer
get a video file
run tcpmp benchmark on it with and without clock change

Hmmm tbh not much difference Just a little teeny weeny bit slower...
Thanks for the idea bro I've posted 2 screenshots, before and after! And ofc the program xD

Perhaps I need someone more skilled to try this out for me...I AM a noob after all xD

clcok speed
from what i've read elsewhere in the forums our processor isn't always operating at 1ghz, when the system isnt being taxed the prossessor idles at a lower speed, then when called on kicks in to full speed. therefore saving battery life already, but i don't claim to be an expert, just regurgitating what i read elsewhere!

gr8james said:
from what i've read elsewhere in the forums our processor isn't always operating at 1ghz, when the system isnt being taxed the prossessor idles at a lower speed, then when called on kicks in to full speed. therefore saving battery life already, but i don't claim to be an expert, just regurgitating what i read elsewhere!
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Yay! Thanks Omg i'm such a noob :$

Read this topic:
How to include 1GHz-Hack in stock-ROM - xda-developers
There is an utility showing CPU clock on the last pages.

Nue Overclock test was designed for the CDMA Touch Pro 1 to overclock to 800Mhz. It wouldn't work to underclock a different device. The processors are too different. TP1's Processor is an MSM 7XXX series and the HD2's Snapdragon is an MSM 8XXX series.
dwizzy130

Is the Dell Streak Overclockable ?

Is the Dell Streak Overclockable ?
can we overclock it like other android phones with the snapdragon ?

53 views and not even one answer , interesting

Everyone is too concentrated with the update release lol.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

maan1976 said:
Is the Dell Streak Overclockable ?
can we overclock it like other android phones with the snapdragon ?
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Yes. http://twitter.com/DMonsterProd/status/5776143839924224
And also: http://twitter.com/DMonsterProd/status/5777150581936128

I suspect from this evening it is. DJ Steve is releasing 1.4 of his rom which includes overclocking Keep an eye on the Modaco Streak forum tonite.

yes you can ... no you dont want to..

da_jojo said:
yes you can ... no you dont want to..
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why wouldn't you want to?

xilpaxim said:
why wouldn't you want to?
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if you run the device overclocked and at maximum cpu it will generate additional heat and wear on the internal components. the build-in cooler is not designed to dissipate this heat, thus shortening the device's lifespan. besides that it shortens batterylife.

da_jojo said:
if you run the device overclocked and at maximum cpu it will generate additional heat and wear on the internal components. the build-in cooler is not designed to dissipate this heat, thus shortening the device's lifespan. besides that it shortens batterylife.
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Been running overclocked to 1152000 since yesterday. Battery not noticably different. Using SetCPU which downclocks when Streak is not doing anything. Nice benchmark results, smooth as butter interface, games run very sweetly, no crashes. Indeed it may shorten device life but not outside acceptable boundries. Obviously if you go crazy with it it will do some damage. Bit like a Turbo vs Nitrous?

i ran an htc artemis phone with 33% overclock for 3.5 years without any problems. still working

mrdegriz said:
Been running overclocked to 1152000 since yesterday. Battery not noticably different. Using SetCPU which downclocks when Streak is not doing anything. Nice benchmark results, smooth as butter interface, games run very sweetly, no crashes. Indeed it may shorten device life but not outside acceptable boundries. Obviously if you go crazy with it it will do some damage. Bit like a Turbo vs Nitrous?
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that seems reasonable. max overclock would be around 1.3 ghz i presume.
the snapdragon does frequency stepping so there wouldnt be any need to use a program for that.

mrdegriz said:
Been running overclocked to 1152000 since yesterday. Battery not noticably different. Using SetCPU which downclocks when Streak is not doing anything. Nice benchmark results, smooth as butter interface, games run very sweetly, no crashes. Indeed it may shorten device life but not outside acceptable boundries. Obviously if you go crazy with it it will do some damage. Bit like a Turbo vs Nitrous?
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how to set MAX Freq to 1.3G by myself?

Interesting. Love to try oc an extra 200 mhz to see if it improvement thw gaming expecience.
Was playing dungeon defender and still can understand at 1ghz why thw gameplay is stilk sluggish
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

If you install dj_steve's rom it's already overclocked. OC does make a lot of difference even at 200mhz. I was only getting less than a thousand on quadrant but with the OC and the new rom, there are times that i get past 2200 almost as good as my G2 but not quiet....
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[Q] SETCPU HD2 overclock

hi guyz, i have a little question for you
does someone have an hd2 with android witch is overclocked to over 1ghz? 1.5ghz too? and, is it a warried operation or cpu has a low overhead in that situation?
3rd and last question, if i put my hd2 in 1.5ghz mode, and force a bench test, may i broke my hd2 with going upper than cpu Tjunction or there's a system protection witch shuts down all the hardware else the cpu is too close to Tjunction? (like normally pc cpu)
i don't know if snapdragon has system protection, so, i don't want to try to fuse my hd2 (it's my main phone)
and, for users who whant to know, yep, i'm using wp7 because it's smoother than android, but, if i try to use android with that overlock, may it can be smooth like wp7, maybe
and, please, don't say that android is smooth, because it has some micro freeze in the continuity of the animation, and i hate that
thank you for your answers

iba21 said:
hi guyz, i have a little question for you
does someone have an hd2 with android witch is overclocked to over 1ghz? 1.5ghz too? and, is it a warried operation or cpu has a low overhead in that situation?
3rd and last question, if i put my hd2 in 1.5ghz mode, and force a bench test, may i broke my hd2 with going upper than cpu Tjunction or there's a system protection witch shuts down all the hardware else the cpu is too close to Tjunction? (like normally pc cpu)
i don't know if snapdragon has system protection, so, i don't want to try to fuse my hd2 (it's my main phone)
and, for users who whant to know, yep, i'm using wp7 because it's smoother than android, but, if i try to use android with that overlock, may it can be smooth like wp7, maybe
and, please, don't say that android is smooth, because it has some micro freeze in the continuity of the animation, and i hate that
thank you for your answers
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I have used setcpu, overlocked to max, didnt brick my hd2

yz.hd said:
I have used setcpu, overlocked to max, didnt brick my hd2
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are you using it now? in 1.5ghz mode?

yz.hd said:
I have used setcpu, overlocked to max, didnt brick my hd2
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thank you so much

You can set your clock to max, but make a profile to downclock your cpu speed to ~500 MHZ when it heats up.

Dr.Move said:
You can set your clock to max, but make a profile to downclock your cpu speed to ~500 MHZ when it heats up.
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oh, you could make a profile with downlcloking when cpu goes to a specific temperature?
nice, what's the tjunction of snapdragon? is 50°C too hight?

not sure, to be honest, I don't overclock my device. too scared to do so :/
but when I did overclock it I set the temperature to 41-42 Celsius.
you can tell that I got a lot of high temp warnings, safe is better than sorry.

iba21 said:
are you using it now? in 1.5ghz mode?
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no, not using it, uninstalled it, because it makes my phone randomly reboot + it can brick your phone (little chance for that) but me no like overheating

How to get to 1.5?
SetCPU only let's me go till 1.2 ghz..

Delano.888 said:
SetCPU only let's me go till 1.2 ghz..
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You need a kernel that allows overclocking

Delano.888 said:
SetCPU only let's me go till 1.2 ghz..
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different builds use different kernels, and each support different max CPU speeds. If the kernel supports overclocking, the developer usually mentions than in the first post. Note that Some kernels/builds do not support any kind of overclocking, so the max CPU speed would be ~988 MHz