(Crazy App Idea?) Creating "ghost" images of the Phone file system - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Was wondering if there were any developments towards creating an application like Norton Ghost or Acronis TrueImage for the PPC. Idea is to be able to ghost entire phone file/registry/firmware system when it's working fine, so that in case something goes wrong (or at testing things like Manila 3D beta) you can always reflash back.
I can see lots of problems with creating something that does that for PPC, and yet I'd be a very useful thing to have.
What do you guys think?

I`ve been looking for this kinda program too :,o

SPB Backup and Sprite Backup aren't enough for you?

SPB Backup works fine, but its still rom-dependant...
If you dont have the old rom you had, some things might not work exaclty, but then again, he has more options in that case.
Still, a full backup with rom included would be great...

outphase said:
SPB Backup and Sprite Backup aren't enough for you?
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Definitelly not. Ghost-like image supposedly would include all files, whole registry, ROM, drivers, all settings on a deeper, firmware level like HardSPL.

This is an awesome idea backup sometimes need to do hard reset first..if not after done restore..sometimes the files will be doubled

DarkDvr said:
Was wondering if there were any developments towards creating an application like Norton Ghost or Acronis TrueImage for the PPC. Idea is to be able to ghost entire phone file/registry/firmware system when it's working fine, so that in case something goes wrong (or at testing things like Manila 3D beta) you can always reflash back.
I can see lots of problems with creating something that does that for PPC, and yet I'd be a very useful thing to have.
What do you guys think?
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This would be a great piece of sofware to have

What about SPB clone?
Says " ยท Files, databases, applications and registry stored in one clone image "
Heres a link - http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/Spb-Clone-16664.shtml
Its a trial only...

SKTools
Best app to use for such a purpose is SKTools creates an exact image of your device and is pretty awesome about doing it
http://www.s-k-tools.com

asmanthebell said:
Best app to use for such a purpose is SKTools creates an exact image of your device and is pretty awesome about doing it
http://www.s-k-tools.com
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Are you refering to the Full system backup?
How does he work, is it really full with rom included?

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SPBBackup for WM5

final release version of SPB backup for WM5 is now available to download at SPBsoftwarehouse.com
Free trail gives full functionality of software for 5 runs.
Tried it on my Mini S and it worked a treat.
Full backup to my storage card then restore from a singe executable or back up individual items (data/databases/settings etc..)
$20 for the full version which is pretty good value IMO
Interesting... I wonder how it stacks up against Sunnysoft's and Sprite's.
Is there any comparison review out there?
Also.. does this do a full backup, or just a backup of everything it can normally access? (e.g. registry, POOM, basic settings, data files - but not any of the files you can't normally copy)
From all the reviews I have read, the new WM5 versions of Sprite and spb backup are fine apps.
The difference for me is the sprite allows you to selectively restore files right on the device. Spb does not allow that, basically all or nothing. This is important when and if certain files get corruputed or changed. To do this using spb, you have to extract the files on a pc then copy them to the ppc.
Other than that, both programs will backup and restore your wm5 device.
Here's a comprehensive review of backup solutions for WM5.
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1
Nice overview - though I think it's somewhat funny that they say "and there're only two reliable backup solutions: Sprite Backup 5 and Spb Backup 1.0" - so does that mean that Sunnysoft's (http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51) is -un-reliable?
Actually, after some reading, the author does seem to think so - based on his experiences with it on a wizard (a Dell Axim x50 guy reported quite the opposite)... so, SPB Backup it is...
Actually, with SpB, you can select which files to backup or restore. You can also view them on your pc. It works as advertised, which is very well.
There's a good review over on Pocket PC Dubai.
Anybody that has purchased ANY OTHER SPB Software House package (SPB Pocket Plus, SPB Weather etc) can get a discount code which brings the price down to $15.96 which is around 1/2 the price of Sprite
See the rewards / discount section of the website http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/support/productdiscount.php?en
Cheers
Chris
itsmewhoelse said:
Actually, with SpB, you can select which files to backup or restore. You can also view them on your pc. It works as advertised, which is very well.
There's a good review over on Pocket PC Dubai.
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But you can't restore 1 or more specific files away from your PC. The only way to restore when you are away from your PC is an all-or-nothing scenario.
I can recall many times in which I did not want to restore my whole PPC and only wanted one or more specific files.
ZeBoxx said:
Nice overview - though I think it's somewhat funny that they say "and there're only two reliable backup solutions: Sprite Backup 5 and Spb Backup 1.0" - so does that mean that Sunnysoft's (http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51) is -un-reliable?
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Yup, it can't backup/restore WinCE databases (for example, PIM stuff, SMS messages etc) reliably. Other than that (backing up the file system/registry), it's OK. But why go for a partially working solution when Spb/Sprite Backup do what they are intended to?
Actually, after some reading, the author does seem to think so - based on his experiences with it on a wizard (a Dell Axim x50 guy reported quite the opposite)
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Was it a WM5 x50 or just a WM2003SE one? No backup program has problems with the latter. WM5, on the other hand, is an entirely different animal and just can't be backed up/restored with pre-WM5 algorithms.
itsmewhoelse said:
Actually, with SpB, you can select which files to backup or restore.
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Not with restore - only with backup.
also with restore
you can chose what files to restore by chosing option for my documents and system data when you restore your data
Ya' know, to me, the most important reason for backing up is data, settings, and configuration retrieval in the event of a catastrophic event.
The first thing I did with SpB is a backup my wizard, a hard reset, then a full restore.
My wizard was returned to exactly the same state as it was before the hard reset. No other backup app I tried did that. So I bought it.
Of course, I lean towards SpB products because they have always responded to my emails, offered advice, and listened and asked questions when I have a suggestion. So, if there are 2 or more products that work equally well, I'm gonna choose SpB every time. Their customer service is world class.
Just my .02

Anyone try SPB Clone?

I want to transfer all information from one Mogul to another Mogul. I hear people having issues when using SBP Backup then restoring (same rom and etc, just to a different phone) this claims it can clone original phone and go from there. Do you think this is valid, I have seen numerous people say you cannot clone one phone to another to due certain settings. Though I am going from the same rom to and from both phones.
link:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/clone/?en
well the entire idea behind spb clone is to clone one image to multiple handsets, as long as the device and rom are the same on both i dont see why it would be a problem
Thanks figured as much, I will try it and let everyone know the results.
Worked great!!
Well for $299.00 I would hope it would clone in entirety; meaning rom, radio, programs, files, etc from one device to another (providing the devices are the same of course)...
But you can "clone" everything from one device to another of the same make/model/base rom & radio using SKTools. SKTools will backup the ENTIRE system and restore it exactly as before to the same/different device providing you have the following:
1. Same hardware architecture
2. Same rom/radio format
3. You have to install SKTools first and only to copy and restore backup
SPB Clone seems well suited for buisness use for rapid deployment of company data devices and problem solving...

SBP Backup - Hermes to Diamond

Hey all,
Emailing to ask the community's advice and wisdom here.
Background:
I'm ordering an HTC diamond (new contract time). Problem is I install a LOT of programs (about 30/40 medical textbooks, dozens of apps, games, tomtom, loads of custom maps/POIs, multimedia programs, internet browsers, flashcard programs, etc) and setting up a new device takes me litterally months on the time I have available.
Question:
So, I'm wondering if there's a solution I can use which will allow me to copy the files over to my HTC diamond and the appropriate reg entries so that the programs don't all need re-installed.
Then I thought about SBP backup. I've heard it can be used to restore all programs after upgrading to custom ROMs including different WM versions....so can I create a full backup file (they're self launching) copy it to my HTC diamond and run it?
Will I brick my diamond? Is there any way to do this? Or have I got to go through the long long procedure of setting everything up again? (I know I can backup and restore PIM thankfully!)
Thanks again all!
MrVarioII
SPB backup, to restore the apps, also restores the registry. I don't know for sure but I wouldn't chance bricking my BRAND NEW toy on something that I'm not sure of. All the memory and ram is a different size on the Diamond and could be set up differently to the way the Hermes is.
Essentially you have to ask yourself, do you feel lucky...... Well, Do ya?
you won't brick
running the wrong backup will not brick your device under any circumstances. It might not run properly and you will have to do a hard reset, but it will not brick your device.
I have used sprite backup to restore a backed up device on a difference rom and device before.
The first thing I would suggest is to restore the device without restoring the registry.
the only things you should need to reenter are passwords etc for the programs
The programs will need the reg entries surely?
And going back through that number of programs to re-enter the keys is a daunting task.
Other thing I'm thinking is that perhaps there are some custom drivers in the diamond I wouldn't want to overwrite?
Perhaps doing this would sacrafice eGPS or something?
The other potential source of problems is that many programs are installed on my hermes micro SD card.....Is a restore of that data to the diamond even possible? Does the diamond even have an SD slot? (seem to remember it's got 4GB internal memory and no SD slot)...Could be wrong...
All ideas/suggestions welcome
Its better that.....
You need to found new VGA version for app, cause many apps dont supports VGA and the hermes is QVGA, maybe it shows too little or not shown troubles... BTW I recomend you to use the WM5torage and make a backup of your PERSONAL data only, of course on your desktop PC or laptop, apps have VGA and QVGA on most devices and this is the most important incompatibilittie (hahahah i dont know how to said that!!!! sorry)
About wiki and specs about the diamond.... search on wiki men! ask there.... first of all.... search!!! and learn!!! Oh and your thread name is wrong you type SBP Backup jajajaja is SPB!! LOL
The Diamond doesn't have an sd card slot so its a moot point....

Backup program

I remember seeing a thread about this, but the search function doesn't seem to come up with it. My old Tilt came with a backup program, I have yet to find one on my Tilt-2... Is there one? Is there a recommendation?
Thanks
What do you want to back up?
I find a combination of PIM Backup, Microsoft MyPhone, and my exchange server to be sufficient for my needs.
I'd like to back up everything.... since there are so many programs and utilities installed (generic programs and fixes from XDA-Developers).
I bought Sprite Backup for two phones ago and the previous one came with Sprite... which is very good software. I should probably see if I can transfer my old license, if there aren't other ideas.
ohyeahar said:
What do you want to back up?
I find a combination of PIM Backup, Microsoft MyPhone, and my exchange server to be sufficient for my needs.
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You definetly have to try SPB backup, you have a free 5 uses test if you download trial, and it let's you choose what you want to backup (only PIM, all settings, registry as well)
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/backup/
Anyone have a comparison of the CURRENT version of Sprite vs SPB Backup? I used Sprite for years... although I now have 3 SPB utilities installed, so I know that they do good work.
MyPhone is a pretty good backup program. Free from Microsoft. It's nice, because most 6.5 ROMs you find on here would have it built in.
It's definitely saved my butt a couple times when I had to hard reset.
Does MyPhone back up all programs and registry settings?
It doesn't mention it on the website.
m4xx0rz said:
MyPhone is a pretty good backup program. Free from Microsoft. It's nice, because most 6.5 ROMs you find on here would have it built in.
It's definitely saved my butt a couple times when I had to hard reset.
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Does SPB Backup's scheduled backups keep on saving new files, or is there a way of limiting how many backup files are saved so that it doesn't fill up the SD card? Sprite Backup can do that.
dzr said:
Does MyPhone back up all programs and registry settings?
It doesn't mention it on the website.
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dzr said:
Does SPB Backup's scheduled backups keep on saving new files, or is there a way of limiting how many backup files are saved so that it doesn't fill up the SD card? Sprite Backup can do that.
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SPB's scheduled backup also has an option to set the maximum number of backups to keep.
dzr said:
Does MyPhone back up all programs and registry settings?
It doesn't mention it on the website.
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No, sadly it does not. It's more than just PIM. But less than full backup.
I'm sure there is a way you could do it... I just don't know how.
Whenever I install a new program, I just make a txt file on my desktop with what I have installed so far, and then put the cab in a folder with it.
It's my emergency hard reset and or rom flash kit...

Wife's new Tilt2

Hello everyone.
My wife recently picked up a Tilt2 and is migrating from her Palm TX.
She is looking for a replacement for Pocket Money, Pocket Quicken, and something else I've forgotten the name of but she's looking at SPB Pocket Plus, Pocket Finance Diary lite (from mobile9.com), and CryptoWallet, none of which did I find listed in Apps thread.
If anyone has used these apps are they not worth the cost? Are there any simular apps that perform better for less or free?
For games she is looking at Happy Lines, Uno (it is in the Apps list), and Matching Hearts; and would love other recommendations for any Bejeweled-like games. She also would like a music player which has a random play feature. I see several listed in the Apps thread but didnt research enough yet to see which has that.
Thanks for any and all help or comments.
Tim
Popatim said:
Hello everyone.
My wife recently picked up a Tilt2 and is migrating from her Palm TX.
She is looking for a replacement for Pocket Money, Pocket Quicken, and something else I've forgotten the name of but she's looking at SPB Pocket Plus, Pocket Finance Diary lite (from mobile9.com), and CryptoWallet, none of which did I find listed in Apps thread.
If anyone has used these apps are they not worth the cost? Are there any simular apps that perform better for less or free?
For games she is looking at Happy Lines, Uno (it is in the Apps list), and Matching Hearts; and would love other recommendations for any Bejeweled-like games. She also would like a music player which has a random play feature. I see several listed in the Apps thread but didnt research enough yet to see which has that.
Thanks for any and all help or comments.
Tim
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Hey Popa, welcome to this corner of the forums
The only question you asked that I can help with is the media player..I can tell you that the built-in HTC music player has a random play option, and it's a nice simple option if she doesn't need much flexibility. However, most any of the commonly used 3rd-party players (coreplayer, TCPMP, nitrogen, etc) certainly can do that as well, so you just have to gauge what else is important in a media player for her. WMP is also built-in of course, and also not half-bad for basic use.
One more thing to help you out...I'd highly recommend running the two cabs I've attached on her new phone. They change some settings in window's memory management that free up memory much faster when apps and processes are done using it...they'll save you a lot of headache when she would have come to you complaining because her new toy is running like molasses (which could still happen...keeping this phone running smoothly especially regarding memory can be a real challenge). The 3rd cab is up to you, but it's a very helpful utility written just for the Tilt2 called CrudScraper that lets you rip out a bunch of the stock apps (only the ones you choose) and crap that AT&T was nice enough to load it up with for you. It's not a cab though, just run the .exe from her SD card and it's self-explanatory from there. Let us know if you need instructions on running the cabs too.
Good luck! I'm sure you'll get some answers to your other questions soon...but if not, you might want to post in the general windows section of the xda forum since most of those programs will work on a lot more models than just the TP2, and you might get more exposure and response that way
SPB Pocket Plus works fine and syncs with Money. I liked the old money client you used to get better but it gets the job done.
hx4700 Killer said:
SPB Pocket Plus works fine and syncs with Money. I liked the old money client you used to get better but it gets the job done.
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Hmm, are you sure you're not confusing Pocket Plus with something else (e.g. SPB Finance)? Pocket Plus is more of a system utility, that doesn't sync with anything. Besides, not all features of Pocket Plus are compatible with WM6.5, so that's something else to take into account.
sirphunkee said:
One more thing to help you out...I'd highly recommend running the two cabs I've attached on her new phone. They change some settings in window's memory management that free up memory much faster when apps and processes are done using it...they'll save you a lot of headache when she would have come to you complaining because her new toy is running like molasses (which could still happen...keeping this phone running smoothly especially regarding memory can be a real challenge). The 3rd cab is up to you, but it's a very helpful utility written just for the Tilt2 called CrudScraper that lets you rip out a bunch of the stock apps (only the ones you choose) and crap that AT&T was nice enough to load it up with for you. It's not a cab though, just run the .exe from her SD card and it's self-explanatory from
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i have a question:
1. NoPushInternet_v2.CAB - where do you install device or storage and do you do anything after install, also do i leave the installed cab on my device or can i uninstall it with its done?
2. SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab - same question?
thanks
apax said:
i have a question:
1. NoPushInternet_v2.CAB - where do you install device or storage and do you do anything after install, also do i leave the installed cab on my device or can i uninstall it with its done?
2. SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab - same question?
thanks
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Install them both to the device, they're very small, and then once you do that you can delete the cab if you want...though I recommend keeping a copy on the SD card of any cabs that you use, so you can reapply them easily if you ever hard-reset. These automatically run in the background once installed, no need to manually start anything.
apax said:
i have a question:
1. NoPushInternet_v2.CAB - where do you install device or storage and do you do anything after install, also do i leave the installed cab on my device or can i uninstall it with its done?
2. SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab - same question?
thanks
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Install them both to the device, they're very small, and then once you do that you can delete the cab if you want...though I recommend keeping a copy on the SD card of any cabs that you use, so you can reapply them easily if you ever hard-reset. These automatically run in the background once installed, no need to manually start anything.
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thanks for the quick response...
sirphunkee said:
Install them both to the device, they're very small, and then once you do that you can delete the cab if you want...though I recommend keeping a copy on the SD card of any cabs that you use, so you can reapply them easily if you ever hard-reset. These automatically run in the background once installed, no need to manually start anything.
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I have been running these cabs for a few weeks now. it seems they stop working after a while. I have noticed my mem usage was in 65-70% again and even after a soft reset, stil up there. Only thing that works is reinstalling the SSK TP2 cab then miraculously back down to 49%. Am i missing something on keeping these running in the bckgrnd? i mean i dont mind reinstalling but feel kinda silly doing it over and over.
Thanks
Joe

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