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I need alot of help since im new to the world of rom's and radios ok im using a sprint mogul and i want to enable gps on my phone using the official rom does this rom have the radio and the rom? or will i just get one and if i do just get one do i need to get the other one and if i do can u recommend one and give me a good detailed guide on how to do this i dont want to brick my phone or anything and im new to this so i need alot of help all help is appreciated
if you want to flash the oficial rom just download the exe from the HTC site, run it and follow the instructions, it will update both the rom and radio
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If I were you, I'd definitely do this on a XP computer. When I put the 3.35 HTC ROM on my Mogul through MS Vista, it got bricked 11% in. Both my XP and Vista computers wouldn't even recognize it as a mobile device. Anyway, after browsing forums for a few hours, I found some posts on how to fix it. It was painful, but it is possible to fix so don't panic if you screw up your first RM update.
Thanks i did it on my laptop took like 12minutes and worked like a charm i i just learned y they call it the tri-color screen now is upgraded to a cooked rom harder than flashing to a official rom?And how do i get the gps to work i have google maps but wat else do i need and will it cost money?
chococrazy said:
Thanks i did it on my laptop took like 12minutes and worked like a charm i i just learned y they call it the tri-color screen now is upgraded to a cooked rom harder than flashing to a official rom?And how do i get the gps to work i have google maps but wat else do i need and will it cost money?
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google maps should automatically detect your gps (at least it did for me) just select "Use GPS" from the menu
the only cost is data (for google maps anyway) so make sure you have a data plan, if not you can use a program like TomTom which has locally stored maps (to clarify the GPS functions are free, but googlemaps uses your data connection to download maps)
defaultdotxbe said:
google maps should automatically detect your gps (at least it did for me) just select "Use GPS" from the menu
the only cost is data (for google maps anyway) so make sure you have a data plan, if not you can use a program like TomTom which has locally stored maps (to clarify the GPS functions are free, but googlemaps uses your data connection to download maps)
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Yes but is there a program thats like tomtom or garmin thats free? And whenever i use google maps i put *track location* and it stick at 0 gps satellites found im using this indoors too.
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Yes but is there a program thats like tomtom or garmin thats free?
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not that i know of, but data plans arent free either so technically neither is google maps
And whenever i use google maps i put *track location* and it stick at 0 gps satellites found im using this indoors too.
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sometimes it takes as much as 30 minutes for an initial lock (its faster after that very first time) but it doesnt really work well indoors anyway, try it outside
i found this forum with one tahts free i just cant figure out which phone is mine on the download page there is no ppc6800 mogul titan i also heard that it can be called a p400o but thats not there either im using sprint.http://www.nav4all.com/site2/www.nav4all.com/eng/index.php
nav4all doesnt work on my sprint mogul.
it just keeps searching for a gps lock adn never gets there.
phone's a refurb from about a month ago; gps works fine under google but worked ****ty under telenav during the trail period.
if anyone knows how to make nav4all happy on a mogul i'd love to know.
I have the Sprint Touch, I have enabled the GPS with help from everyone here, Thanks a million, I have now added the Tom Tom Navigator 6 to the device, it is working, but it cannot find the satellites, how can i get this to work, if anyone has done this successfully please let me know what i am doing wrong.
Tom Tom Nav 6 Working On Sprint HTC Touch
I Finally Got this to work, Tom Tom Software running on the sprint touch, getting 6-8 satallites, working awesome.
call u tell us how u did it and where to get the programs.
thanks
Tom Tom On Sprint Touch
Just send PM and i will tell you where i got the software, i will post a tutorial on how i got it to work with pics
Please look here for information on the Tom Tom software, There is some reading but well worth it.
Thanks for quick respond.
Tom Tom On Sprint Touch
First you must follow these instructions to flash your phone to alltel software.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388412
You can download Tom Tom SW and Maps From "Google It"
I Hope this helps a bit better, i will repost the setup and directories you need to place maps, voices, etc.. along with GPS setup and coms, baud rate... later. I want to get good pics before i post it.
Nice promoting Piracy I see... Thanks guys for putting people like me out of a job...
Anyway is the only way to get the gpsworking is a full rom update. Does anyone know if they will come out with some sort of patch? I would hate to have to resetup my phone again..
yeah posting a link to pirated versions of tomtom is a bit dodgy. Apparantly you can use the free mobile version of google maps with a GPS in a windows mobile device - haven't tried that yet though as I don't have a data plan enabled (required to download maps on the fly from google). I noticed that it took a long time to get a GPS lock for the first time on the Telecom New Zealand okta touch (identical to vogue) after running the upgrade - maybe 10 minutes or more.
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not promoting Piracy, i actually bought the sw after i got it to work, as expensive as it is i had to before i dropped that kind of cash, all features do not work like traffic updates and such unless you have a authenic version, i have removed the links, and encurage anyone who has tried this to purchase the sw it is well worth it.
can somebody pm me a link to the freeware version of this? I'm def trying it out before i drop that coin on it. thx.
I installed the sprint leaked Rom which has gps and revA enabled. I use tomtom, which is a life saver, but i have to open google maps and click menu,use gps and then tomtom will pick up signal.
AstroGPSLauncher
I use AstroGPSLauncher to start TomTom. It primes the GPS and starts TomTom. Works Great! It is discussed in this thread>>>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364199
A UK company are now selling TomTom 7 software that is compatible with Touch HD.
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/539/tomtom-navigator-7-software---map-of-western-europe
I wonder if this will solve the GPS dropout problems that I'm experiencing with my current version 7.915. The problem is that you have to buy a new map to get the latest software, I've already paid for the Europe map, so I looks like I'll have to buy the UK map and not use it to get the latest "compatible" software and knowing my luck it won't fix the dropouts anyway .
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im using TomTom 7 and Igo8 on my HD and i dont have any GPS dropout, granted when it first aquires the lock it does flash locked/unlocked for about 10 - 15 seconds then thats it, its locked and stays locked, works best on igo8 though locks straight away and stays locked, and if im honest i think i prefer IGO8 even though i have graduated with tomtom 5,6, and now 7, but still nice to have both
Unfortunately, I'm having real trouble.
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Mine is driving me around the bend.
Using TomTom 7, it works fine for a time and then the GPS stops working. Exiting and restarting TomTom always brings it back. Time scale is random, it can work for hours before going tits up.
I've tried three different Roms, five different radios, two different versions of TomTom 7, AGPS is disabled, GPS mode set to 1.
It's starting to look like a hardware problem.
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I've just disabled Quick GPS and deleted xtra.bin from the windows directory in case it's a corrupt ephemeris problem, I don't hold out too much hope though.
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A UK company are now selling TomTom 7 software that is compatible with Touch HD.
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/539/tomtom-navigator-7-software---map-of-western-europe
I wonder if this will solve the GPS dropout problems that I'm experiencing with my current version 7.915. The problem is that you have to buy a new map to get the latest software, I've already paid for the Europe map, so I looks like I'll have to buy the UK map and not use it to get the latest "compatible" software and knowing my luck it won't fix the dropouts anyway .
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who did say that it is a newer version than 7.915?
On my HD TomTom 7.915 is running very well.
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who did say that it is a newer version than 7.915?
On my HD TomTom 7.915 is running very well.
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I wish mine was and it's not for want of trying.
My last hope is that it's something to do with me being, currently, in the South of France. The problem got progressively worse as I drove south from UK. Perhaps it's something to do with the phone downloading a UK ephemeris which is no good in Southern Europe. Although it must be said that I did not have this problem with TomTom 6 on my previous two phones, Artemis and TyTnII.
I've had problems with tomtom on cooked roms, but having gone back to the last UK stock rom and tomtom 7.915 i have had no problems at all.
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I've had problems with tomtom on cooked roms, but having gone back to the last UK stock rom and tomtom 7.915 i have had no problems at all.
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Can you let me know which rom you are currently using please and I'll give it a go.
The quick gps experiment didn't help, I just had three dropouts in forty minutes .
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I wish mine was and it's not for want of trying.
My last hope is that it's something to do with me being, currently, in the South of France. The problem got progressively worse as I drove south from UK. Perhaps it's something to do with the phone downloading a UK ephemeris which is no good in Southern Europe. Although it must be said that I did not have this problem with TomTom 6 on my previous two phones, Artemis and TyTnII.
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Try to hardreset and reinstall tomtom. it´s running in generell and even with cooked roms (at least the well known wm6.1 roms i have tested)
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Try to hardreset and reinstall tomtom. it´s running in generell and even with cooked roms (at least the well known wm6.1 roms i have tested)
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Thanks, but I've tried hard resets and reinstallation of tomtom to no avail.
Roms I've tried are:
1.14.405.3
1.56.405.1
1.57.831.1
Dutty's 3.2XT
Dutty's 3.3XT
All exhibit the same problem with tomtom, ie random GPS dropouts. I think the only thing I can do is to buy the official release version that states compatibility, then I can get some tech support from tomtom and HTC.
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Can you let me know which rom you are currently using please and I'll give it a go.
The quick gps experiment didn't help, I just had three dropouts in forty minutes .
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The last standard UK rom from HTC is a 1.56 variant (you can download it from the HTC website with your HD serial number).
I had problems with tomtom when running versions 3 and 3.3 of dutty's roms, when either the program wouldn't start (it would just crash back to the today screen) or no satellites would be seen or the program would just freeze when navigating (used to happen a lot on 90 degree bends for some reason.
I suspect the cooked rom issues may be linked to memory usage, but i'm not sure.
I use tomtom a great deal (probably 20+ hours a week), so decided to go back to the stock rom and i've not had 1 single problem in the 2 weeks since.
You've probably covered this elsewhere in your thread, but it may be worth installing HDTweak and making sure that you've got AGPS switched off.
Good luck
Spudgun
anyone know what the version is ?? 7.x or 8 ?? that's offically supported
As there isn't a navigator 8 yet, I would be absolutely shocked if it was anything but 7.x
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As there isn't a navigator 8 yet, I would be absolutely shocked if it was anything but 7.x
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well thats what I figured but was always hopefull
spud_work said:
The last standard UK rom from HTC is a 1.56 variant (you can download it from the HTC website with your HD serial number).
I had problems with tomtom when running versions 3 and 3.3 of dutty's roms, when either the program wouldn't start (it would just crash back to the today screen) or no satellites would be seen or the program would just freeze when navigating (used to happen a lot on 90 degree bends for some reason.
I suspect the cooked rom issues may be linked to memory usage, but i'm not sure.
I use tomtom a great deal (probably 20+ hours a week), so decided to go back to the stock rom and i've not had 1 single problem in the 2 weeks since.
You've probably covered this elsewhere in your thread, but it may be worth installing HDTweak and making sure that you've got AGPS switched off.
Good luck
Spudgun
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Thanks.
I'm using the same rom as you at the moment with no luck. Tried all permutations of agps/no agps using hdtweak and gps mode in registry, also tried another SD card. This is so annoying as I'm on a driving holiday in Europe. I've just downloaded Davideuck's WM6.5 rom and will try that, clutching at straws here.
The freezing you had with Dutty's roms sounds like the same problem I'm getting. It's completely random, can work fine for hours and can freeze twice in five minutes, mine seems worse in slow or stationary traffic, but it can happen anywhere and usually does it at the most inconvenient moment. If I exit and restart tomtom, it comes straight back. I suspect it's something to do with timing somewhere.
Which version of the maps are you using?
Where have you got tomtom installed (i've got it installed on the device)?
Which radio are you using? (i've found 1.13 to be the most reliable)
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Which version of the maps are you using?
Where have you got tomtom installed (i've got it installed on the device)?
Which radio are you using? (i've found 1.13 to be the most reliable)
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Western_Europe_1GB v825.2159
Device
1.13.25.24
WM6.5 rom now installed and running, just going for a drive to try it out. Not holding my breath though.
best of luck to you
Do you do a 'clear storage' when you flash? just in case there is a bad settings file somewhere on your storage card?
I had a torrid time getting tomtom to work 100% reliably on a cooked rom, but have never had any problems on a stock rom, so this has effectively cured my 'flashing fever' and i'm happy to stick with what i've got now, especially as i had tomtom lockups all the time on a way to a wedding in central manchester a few weeks back that caused no end of grief in the car
Arrrrrgggghhhhhh......
It did it again .
The only difference this time was that the navigator screen went grey and showed no satellites rather than pretend that nothing had happened and carry on showing motion albeit slowly leaving the road. It looks like it's the gps module switching itself off from time to time and requiring a restart. I seem to remember seeing something about a registry controlled timer, I'll look into that now.
What you describe above is exactly what happened to me when i was running one of dutty's roms. I would lose signal and it would wander off road before going round in a big circle and ending up at the point where it lost signal. I would also find that for some time afterwards i was unable to see any satellites in any GPS application.
I tried flagging it up on the forums here thinking it was an issue in the cooked rom, but I didn't get anywhere. Thankfully a stock HTC rom got everything as it should be and i navigated without any issue at all around the south east of england for 3 days (approx 18 hours of GPS time) last week and also made a couple of trips this weekend without issue.
Back to topic:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/539/tomtom-navigator-7-software---map-of-western-europe
So is this a legit TomTom Navigator 7 package for HTC Touch HD?
If so, great.
But I also need North America maps. Where would I be able to purchase those from, or would I need to buy them in the US? Is it then just as simple as loading the new maps onto a card?
Now that Verizon finally has unlocked the GPS on a new device, I am curious about what navigation software and performance everyone is seeing. I tried TomTom 7 on my Imagio and it is lagging about 10 seconds. I haven't had time to really give it a good test, however it was a little concerning. How is your GPS working for you?
Same with me, Navigator is too laggy to work. I've installed Nav4All (free at nav4all.com) and it works great but is very rudimentary.
Goggle Maps works fine but not TTS so the search continues...
Interesting, I was using version ttn7.915.9196 for the record. I saw somewhere that there is a newer version for the TP2 out but i think it only added the ability to use the keyboard. I noticed that on the TomTom sight it only shows the Iphone edition I wonder if they are tweaking it for the new rev of WM phone. I think i might buy Copilot 8 if we can't find a fix considering its only something like $35.
Copilot 8 works great!
I use Ostia from pharosgps.com.
It was lightning fast to locate me, compared to using my old Tilt.
This is my third phone using Ostia and have to say currently liking it best.
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You must first use HTCs Quick GPS. It speeds up the lock on the satellites. Google maps finds my location within seconds and Bing in less than a minute
Hormazdd said:
You must first use HTCs Quick GPS. It speeds up the lock on the satellites. Google maps finds my location within seconds and Bing in less than a minute
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Is QuickGPS a memory hog? And is it always on? I'm a little afraid to install it.
In the meantime, I have always like Garmin software. Garmin XT works very well on the Imagio. I got it off of ebay for about $25. It's also got lots of connected services, like nearby gas prices, flight times, google search, weather etc.
no quick gps isn't a memory hog and should already be on your device. The way it works is:
The GPS chip receives a synchronized timed signal from the satellites (birds) the US DoD launched into orbit. Each bird uses a different channel. With a good signal from three or more birds, GPS starts to get a fix. It does this by calculating the time difference between the reception of the different signals, then calculating the relative distances to each of the birds, then figuring out where it sits in the middle of the birds.
The GPS calculates four spheres, and its located somewhere on the surface of each of these spheres. There is only one point where these four spheres intersect. That's you.
If you're good at geometry, you might think that it needs 4 birds to get a fix, but in fact, if the GPS assumes that you are on earth, that provides another sphere, so it only requires 3 birds to get a decent fix. More adds altitude and accuracy.
But the GPS needs to know where each of the birds is before it can decide where IT is. That information is not calculated, but is available in a detailed download of orbital data provided by the DoD called ephemeris data. It is transmitted...from the bird to your GPS. For a cold start, your GPS needs to download the entire file, without interruptions in the signal - BEFORE it can even start getting a fix. In fact, the GPS may not even know which channels to tune into, since it doesn't yet know which birds are currently overhead. This causes a slow first fix.
Quick GPS, is simple. Ephemeris data is passed thru WiFi or cellular data connection ahead of time, and you never have to wait for it to download over the satellite. Awesome.
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I'm using IGo8 and it works perfectly.
I'v been happy with Bing for Maps/Turn-by-Turn GPS, with the bigger screen of the Imagio it's more than adequate for my needs. It also has gas prices, movies, and speech recognition which is very nice. Use Quick GPS to cache satellite info and it locks very quickly after that.
makryger said:
Is QuickGPS a memory hog? And is it always on? I'm a little afraid to install it.
In the meantime, I have always like Garmin software. Garmin XT works very well on the Imagio. I got it off of ebay for about $25. It's also got lots of connected services, like nearby gas prices, flight times, google search, weather etc.
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Isn't Quick GPS already on the Imagio. I don't remember installing it on mine and its been working great.
Boss428man said:
Isn't Quick GPS already on the Imagio. I don't remember installing it on mine and its been working great.
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It is if you go into the All Applications area from the TouchFlo Start Menu.
Boss428man said:
Isn't Quick GPS already on the Imagio. I don't remember installing it on mine and its been working great.
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I was confused, when I opened up QuickGPS, it said "Download", so I assumed it was like the Windows Marketplace icon, and that you actually had to download the program first. I was wrong- download means download GPS Data.
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I was confused, when I opened up QuickGPS, it said "Download", so I assumed it was like the Windows Marketplace icon, and that you actually had to download the program first. I was wrong- download means download GPS Data.
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Correct, and it will auto-close after as it's not needed to stay running to work, just download cache files and exit.
Give it a try it has always worked will for me
IGO 8 is by far the best navigation software takes some tweaking to get it to work but if you do some searching you can find what your looking for on the net. Garmin XT uses a bit less program memory and still works well but not near as slick as IGO. Make sure you use latest possible release and maps.
Is it Igo 8 or OnCourse 8 in the US. I went to the site and found it a little confusing. Looked pretty nice either way.
Can't get Tomtom to work
On the topic of GPS programs, I have used Tomtom Navigator 6 (purchased version) for some time. Worked great on my AT&T fuze, but when I tried to install it on the imagio, it looks like everything is smooshed to the top of the screen, and is unusable. I contacted Tomtom, but they replied simply that it was an unsupported phone. I guess I'll have to try a different program. Anybody else had issues?
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On the topic of GPS programs, I have used Tomtom Navigator 6 (purchased version) for some time. Worked great on my AT&T fuze, but when I tried to install it on the imagio, it looks like everything is smooshed to the top of the screen, and is unusable. I contacted Tomtom, but they replied simply that it was an unsupported phone. I guess I'll have to try a different program. Anybody else had issues?
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I've been using TomTom for years too. On my PDA's and winmo phones. I didn't install it on the Imagio because I was going to get the latest maps from TomTom and see if they had any software updates. But all they have on their site now is iPhone and zip for winmo, so it looked to me like they were dropping windows support, so I dropped them.
I can get by with Google Maps and/or Windows Live Search (Bing) - and for turn by turn I'm now using the $35 CoPilot 8. Works real well, but I have very limited time on it so far.
I was going to switch to Garmin XT, but you need a completely dedicated microSD for that - that's a deal breaker.
My friend installed wm 6.5 on his wing and he is having a similar problem with TOMTOM being very laggy. I think its a wm 6.5 issue and not and Imagio!
OK, I'm traveling to Europe soon... will Maps and Navigation work the same way there? When I view maps of Europe from here everything is visible, but I'm not able to test directions from here. I know there are issues with the GPS on the Vibrant, but so far (running 2.2 upgrade) I haven't noticed them... albeit I am new to the Vibrant. Thanks in advance! SFB
I just got back from a week long trip in Switzerland. I unlocked my Vibrant and used a Swisscom SIM card, and it worked great. I was able to pull up my location in maps and use it to move around the cities I was in. The only time I had trouble was if I was walking down narrow streets with little visible sky... but as soon as I got to an open square and the sky view opened up, I was fine again.
I'd say... get your Vibrant unlocked and pick up a pre-paid SIM card that includes data for the country or countries you'll be in, and have fun!
Oh, and I forgot to address the other part of your question. I also used it to look up directions to go places that included bus and/or tram/train rides, and that worked very well too. It worked well for me in Switzerland at least.
Yep, everything will work. Amazingly Google knows about Europe too.
Unlock and get a prepaid SIM at wherever you are going to avoid paying T mobile's usureous international data roaming charges.
I used Locus from the market on a recent trip to the UK. I shut off data and used only the phone's gps and the offline maps and it worked fine for directions.
Thanks for the info on Navigation and Maps in Europe. I'll be getting a TIM card in Italy, but will be getting a data plan with TIM for the first time (I will try and check out TIMs offerings online before we leave). Does the GPS function without a dataplan? My old Garmin just uses satellites... just wondering...
The GPS does function but in order to make use of it you'll need a map that you can download ahead of time.
It took mine about 5 minutes to find me initially but that was the first week of Jan. so I was still on Elcair at the time.
I have a similar question. Does google nav work same way in Mexico as it does in USA? thanks