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HP Ipaq 614 GPS don´t Work.

Hello!
I have a Ipaq 614C and I have a problem. When i install the TomTom i can't connect to the GPS. In the HP asset's it appear GPS: Present but in the status appear disable.
Anyone can help me.
Thanks.
John

Check in TOMTOM which GPS com port it's using. Then change to same port
as set in Settngs->Systems-> External GPS -> Programs com port.
I dont use Tomtom myself but I've used so far Google Maps and NAv4All and it works fine without any changes.
Good luck.

On my ipaq 614, the default com port for the gps is port number 6. And it works fine with that.

im also having some GPS difficulties with 614c: i already tried it with igo8, tomtom navigator and latest google maps. it finds satellites very slowly and rarely, mostly never. anyone got an idea?
t

tibyke said:
im also having some GPS difficulties with 614c: i already tried it with igo8, tomtom navigator and latest google maps. it finds satellites very slowly and rarely, mostly never. anyone got an idea?
t
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did u try always out of the house in a open space?
most of the ppl don't know that u don't have GPS signal in close space.
second of all, first download with quick gps latest infos, after that start igo, it will be more quicker ...
chrees.

klaxhu said:
did u try always out of the house in a open space?
most of the ppl don't know that u don't have GPS signal in close space.
second of all, first download with quick gps latest infos, after that start igo, it will be more quicker ...
chrees.
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of course i tried it in open air, and at night on the balcony with no success. i will try quick GPS, thanks for your advice!
t

quick gps?
klaxhu said:
did u try always out of the house in a open space?
most of the ppl don't know that u don't have GPS signal in close space.
second of all, first download with quick gps latest infos, after that start igo, it will be more quicker ...
chrees.
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Hi all, mine did not come with any quick GPS installed, the older (tomtom related) version from the 6915 does not work on that device any longer, where did you get quick gps? or is it hidden somewhere..? Since there is no navi software installed, only google maps..
txs

From my personal experience with it, it took absolutely FOREVER to connect to a satellite the very first time I tried. Took about 7 "cannot find a signal" messages before I finally snagged one.
After that, it was ~20 seconds to connect every time.
I really dont know what the deal was, but after that initial connection it seemed perfectly fine.
So my advice is, try again for a little while.

I also have problems with GPS on HP 614c. But the problem probably not in the chip, and in programs as Oziexplorer and Google Navigator satellites catch and precisely defines a site, and Navitel works through time and that in a minute satellites as though fade and data cease to be updated, Garmin in general satellites does not see. Firmware update has not helped. Anybody has ideas?
p.s. sorry for my english

With program Navitel has understood, the reason was in program MultyDID, it blocked access to keyboards and deformed a signal from satellites, Garmin does not function.

rainerrabe said:
Hi all, mine did not come with any quick GPS installed, the older (tomtom related) version from the 6915 does not work on that device any longer, where did you get quick gps? or is it hidden somewhere..? Since there is no navi software installed, only google maps..
txs
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http://rapidshare.com/files/125147036/IPAQ_600_GPS_Quick.zip.html
ENJOY

Hi
I've had the same problem with iGO8. You have to change the sys file in the iGO directory on the storage card. Here what I have there:
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
show_exit=1
[gps]
port=6
baud=57600
set_messages=0
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0

EREZYAD said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/125147036/IPAQ_600_GPS_Quick.zip.html
ENJOY
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Could you upload this GPS quick to the forums?.. its not available @ rapid..
Thx

DSwarP said:
From my personal experience with it, it took absolutely FOREVER to connect to a satellite the very first time I tried. Took about 7 "cannot find a signal" messages before I finally snagged one.
After that, it was ~20 seconds to connect every time.
I really dont know what the deal was, but after that initial connection it seemed perfectly fine.
So my advice is, try again for a little while.
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I agree with all these comments and the above regarding open space. GPS does indeed require a clear view of the sky... but one thing not so often said is that GPS needs a clear view of the NORTHERN sky... most of the GPS satellites are in a geostationary orbit above northern part of the planet.
To the guy who has tried leaving the phone on the balcony... I suspect your balcony is south facing (very nice).
I have also found that the longer it is since your last fix, the longer it will take to get a fix. GPS satellites only broadcast their "here I am" messages every 30 seconds and it is mostly down to luck whether your phone is listening for the right satellite at the right time. That's why it takes a while to obtain a GPS fix on all devices. QuickGPS and other software tries to expedite the fix by allowing the phone to calculate which satellites will be the right ones to listen out for, based on a daily positions log of the GPS satellites (called ephemera data).
GPS does work quite well on the 614c (I use tomtom 6.3 and Google Maps, both extensively)... but it does often take a long time to get a fix - sometimes even 10 minutes.

hipppo said:
I agree with all these comments and the above regarding open space. GPS does indeed require a clear view of the sky... but one thing not so often said is that GPS needs a clear view of the NORTHERN sky... most of the GPS satellites are in a geostationary orbit above northern part of the planet.
To the guy who has tried leaving the phone on the balcony... I suspect your balcony is south facing (very nice).
I have also found that the longer it is since your last fix, the longer it will take to get a fix. GPS satellites only broadcast their "here I am" messages every 30 seconds and it is mostly down to luck whether your phone is listening for the right satellite at the right time. That's why it takes a while to obtain a GPS fix on all devices. QuickGPS and other software tries to expedite the fix by allowing the phone to calculate which satellites will be the right ones to listen out for, based on a daily positions log of the GPS satellites (called ephemera data).
GPS does work quite well on the 614c (I use tomtom 6.3 and Google Maps, both extensively)... but it does often take a long time to get a fix - sometimes even 10 minutes.
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Very nice. I woud've never thought about that. However, i think geostationary orbit is when the satelite goes around the equator with the same angular speed as the rotation of the Earth. So these satelites actually go around in an orbit perpendecular to the equator. Yesterday i tested and got 2 satelites inside a room with north windows. Very cool. Do you use quick GPS. I installed it and downloaded the data for the next 7 days. I didn't notice any improvement. I use DESTINATOR 7 and Maspware GPSmeter 5.I don't really get it - who manages the data downloaded by Qgps - windows drivers or the gps software itself.

More GPS thoughts
Axlastro - the ephemeris data that QuickGPS and other programs download is nothing to do with Microsoft/Windows or with HP. It is official data on the positions and movements of the satellites in the GPS network. Provided ultimately by some government department, probably American.
If you have not noticed an improvement over a period of several days, I'm not sure why this is. This old posting might help you.
Ephemeris data is also actually transmitted by the satellites themselves. This is why, when you have recently had a fix, it is usually quite quick to get another one. Programs like QuickGPS are only therefore useful if it's been a while since your last fix.

Thanks. I googled the topic and got some detailed explanations.
http://wmexperts.com/articles/gps_vs_agps_a_quick_tutorial.html
I also found a thread that says that QUICKgps doesn't work with the ipaq.
http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16767
So that's why i don't see improvement. However neither of the people on that forum has managet to improve their fix times. Can you tell me wich program exactly you are using?

strange. i never had problems with gps. very fast . newest firmware from hp site ,and 3 different roms,original 6.0 and 2 roms with 6.1 . Igo,garmin etc.

Some more info
Really. Which program do you use, so i can try with it too.
I spoke to HP support and they said that it depends on the GPS software if it will use the aGPS function, so we have to check if the software we use is compatable with tha Qualcomm 6820 gps chipset of the ipaq.

Install this
http://uploading.com/files/YI4IJTCC/PART1-GPS Quick.zip.html
Now update the app
Install this
http://uploading.com/files/15FMK62B/PART2-QuickGPS.CAB.html
Now update the second app but on this update you will get at 79% a fail note
Ignore it and check your GPS...
from my testes you will get a better hot fix (time )
If you are after SR or cold fix update the second app (the one that fails)
Good luck
Ps at the end it will look like this
sorry about quality of the move ,I had to upload to youtube ….so I compressed the file
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYbVnuwvluo

Rom updating for dummies?

I need alot of help since im new to the world of rom's and radios ok im using a sprint mogul and i want to enable gps on my phone using the official rom does this rom have the radio and the rom? or will i just get one and if i do just get one do i need to get the other one and if i do can u recommend one and give me a good detailed guide on how to do this i dont want to brick my phone or anything and im new to this so i need alot of help all help is appreciated

if you want to flash the oficial rom just download the exe from the HTC site, run it and follow the instructions, it will update both the rom and radio

rom
If I were you, I'd definitely do this on a XP computer. When I put the 3.35 HTC ROM on my Mogul through MS Vista, it got bricked 11% in. Both my XP and Vista computers wouldn't even recognize it as a mobile device. Anyway, after browsing forums for a few hours, I found some posts on how to fix it. It was painful, but it is possible to fix so don't panic if you screw up your first RM update.

Thanks i did it on my laptop took like 12minutes and worked like a charm i i just learned y they call it the tri-color screen now is upgraded to a cooked rom harder than flashing to a official rom?And how do i get the gps to work i have google maps but wat else do i need and will it cost money?

chococrazy said:
Thanks i did it on my laptop took like 12minutes and worked like a charm i i just learned y they call it the tri-color screen now is upgraded to a cooked rom harder than flashing to a official rom?And how do i get the gps to work i have google maps but wat else do i need and will it cost money?
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google maps should automatically detect your gps (at least it did for me) just select "Use GPS" from the menu
the only cost is data (for google maps anyway) so make sure you have a data plan, if not you can use a program like TomTom which has locally stored maps (to clarify the GPS functions are free, but googlemaps uses your data connection to download maps)

defaultdotxbe said:
google maps should automatically detect your gps (at least it did for me) just select "Use GPS" from the menu
the only cost is data (for google maps anyway) so make sure you have a data plan, if not you can use a program like TomTom which has locally stored maps (to clarify the GPS functions are free, but googlemaps uses your data connection to download maps)
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Yes but is there a program thats like tomtom or garmin thats free? And whenever i use google maps i put *track location* and it stick at 0 gps satellites found im using this indoors too.

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Yes but is there a program thats like tomtom or garmin thats free?
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not that i know of, but data plans arent free either so technically neither is google maps
And whenever i use google maps i put *track location* and it stick at 0 gps satellites found im using this indoors too.
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sometimes it takes as much as 30 minutes for an initial lock (its faster after that very first time) but it doesnt really work well indoors anyway, try it outside

i found this forum with one tahts free i just cant figure out which phone is mine on the download page there is no ppc6800 mogul titan i also heard that it can be called a p400o but thats not there either im using sprint.http://www.nav4all.com/site2/www.nav4all.com/eng/index.php

nav4all doesnt work on my sprint mogul.
it just keeps searching for a gps lock adn never gets there.
phone's a refurb from about a month ago; gps works fine under google but worked ****ty under telenav during the trail period.
if anyone knows how to make nav4all happy on a mogul i'd love to know.

Problems with picking up Sat's. Please help!!

Ive tried tomtom, nav4all and Igo and cant get any of them to pick up a satellite. They will all find my location or pretty close to though
Im using htc touch vogue, sprint with wm 6.1
I can get between 5 and 7 sat's using google maps, windows live search and sprint nav in about 10 seconds.
i have my phone set for comm4 and 4800 baud. under the "external gps icon". theres none for internal.
Igo has any auto detect and it just sits at "scanning communication ports" and automatically goes to port 9.... i set the ports myself in igo, try to find the gps and it still goes to port 9.
Anyone have any idea why i cant get any of the good gps programs to pick up a sat?
should i flash the rom again and start from scratch?
I also have iguidance as a primer..not to sure if its working. i click the icon and nothing happens.
Thanks in advance for any help!!!

I use GPS Launcher and TomTom with absolutely no problems with your exact settings. I actually didn't change anything in the config on the PPC or in the TomTom app itself. Left everything on default settings.
Without the Primer installed and running first, it never seemed to work.
Your GPS seems to be working if you are getting Live and Google to run it...Don't think you should really need to re-install the ROM update.
Did you run your free 15day of Sprint Nav. Is that working like a champ?

Thanks for the reply
Sprint nav works perferctly...I would use it but im not paying the money they want. I would rather buy a puck..
Im using the primer. i click on it but nothing happens. not to sure if anything is supposed to launch though.. Pretty much new at all this.
Cant figure it out.... Everyone else that using this phone i read has the nav working. I dont know what else to do but to try and reload wm 6.1 and start from scratch.. dont really have anything special on my phone but #'s

One quick thought...
Should I unlock my phone???
Also, I have GPS launcher and that fails to detect as well...
at the "Qucik GPS can speed up the time for determining you gps satellite position via internet connection (such as gprs, activesync, etc.." i try to download and it fails right away. . After the 6.1 upgrade i cant connect to the internet with the data cable connected and i have no idea how to use my phone as a modem.

maddogMACREE said:
Thanks for the reply
Sprint nav works perferctly...I would use it but im not paying the money they want. I would rather buy a puck..
Im using the primer. i click on it but nothing happens. not to sure if anything is supposed to launch though.. Pretty much new at all this.
Cant figure it out.... Everyone else that using this phone i read has the nav working. I dont know what else to do but to try and reload wm 6.1 and start from scratch.. dont really have anything special on my phone but #'s
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I definitely wasn't suggesting to buy the Sprint Nav. That's just silly...
Download the QVGA-Black Repack3, and the GPS Launcher.
This is currently configured to Prime the GPS and Launch TomTom; both of which are located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2439623&postcount=34
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1862619&postcount=1
You shouldn't have any problems with these two.
L8R

OK....unlocked the phone. updated rom with OJ's custom..
Tried to install tomtom now my maps are screwed. its not asking me for the code to unlock. Anyone know where i can get maps for Mass to try?
Installed igo, of course it failed to pick up the sat.. but it will pick up my location and will give me a simulation of the route i have to take....sat is still crossed out!
No issues with live or google maps picking up my location
I dont f'n get it...Do i have the same phone eveyone else is using with these programs? Are people using a gps receiver ie;puck for this to work?
it says my phone is vogu100 under identity..
Rom ver: 3.03.651.4
Radio 3.42.30

GPS - Software, Performance

Now that Verizon finally has unlocked the GPS on a new device, I am curious about what navigation software and performance everyone is seeing. I tried TomTom 7 on my Imagio and it is lagging about 10 seconds. I haven't had time to really give it a good test, however it was a little concerning. How is your GPS working for you?

Same with me, Navigator is too laggy to work. I've installed Nav4All (free at nav4all.com) and it works great but is very rudimentary.
Goggle Maps works fine but not TTS so the search continues...

Interesting, I was using version ttn7.915.9196 for the record. I saw somewhere that there is a newer version for the TP2 out but i think it only added the ability to use the keyboard. I noticed that on the TomTom sight it only shows the Iphone edition I wonder if they are tweaking it for the new rev of WM phone. I think i might buy Copilot 8 if we can't find a fix considering its only something like $35.

Copilot 8 works great!

I use Ostia from pharosgps.com.
It was lightning fast to locate me, compared to using my old Tilt.
This is my third phone using Ostia and have to say currently liking it best.

GPS
You must first use HTCs Quick GPS. It speeds up the lock on the satellites. Google maps finds my location within seconds and Bing in less than a minute

Hormazdd said:
You must first use HTCs Quick GPS. It speeds up the lock on the satellites. Google maps finds my location within seconds and Bing in less than a minute
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Is QuickGPS a memory hog? And is it always on? I'm a little afraid to install it.
In the meantime, I have always like Garmin software. Garmin XT works very well on the Imagio. I got it off of ebay for about $25. It's also got lots of connected services, like nearby gas prices, flight times, google search, weather etc.

no quick gps isn't a memory hog and should already be on your device. The way it works is:
The GPS chip receives a synchronized timed signal from the satellites (birds) the US DoD launched into orbit. Each bird uses a different channel. With a good signal from three or more birds, GPS starts to get a fix. It does this by calculating the time difference between the reception of the different signals, then calculating the relative distances to each of the birds, then figuring out where it sits in the middle of the birds.
The GPS calculates four spheres, and its located somewhere on the surface of each of these spheres. There is only one point where these four spheres intersect. That's you.
If you're good at geometry, you might think that it needs 4 birds to get a fix, but in fact, if the GPS assumes that you are on earth, that provides another sphere, so it only requires 3 birds to get a decent fix. More adds altitude and accuracy.
But the GPS needs to know where each of the birds is before it can decide where IT is. That information is not calculated, but is available in a detailed download of orbital data provided by the DoD called ephemeris data. It is transmitted...from the bird to your GPS. For a cold start, your GPS needs to download the entire file, without interruptions in the signal - BEFORE it can even start getting a fix. In fact, the GPS may not even know which channels to tune into, since it doesn't yet know which birds are currently overhead. This causes a slow first fix.
Quick GPS, is simple. Ephemeris data is passed thru WiFi or cellular data connection ahead of time, and you never have to wait for it to download over the satellite. Awesome.
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I'm using IGo8 and it works perfectly.

I'v been happy with Bing for Maps/Turn-by-Turn GPS, with the bigger screen of the Imagio it's more than adequate for my needs. It also has gas prices, movies, and speech recognition which is very nice. Use Quick GPS to cache satellite info and it locks very quickly after that.

makryger said:
Is QuickGPS a memory hog? And is it always on? I'm a little afraid to install it.
In the meantime, I have always like Garmin software. Garmin XT works very well on the Imagio. I got it off of ebay for about $25. It's also got lots of connected services, like nearby gas prices, flight times, google search, weather etc.
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Isn't Quick GPS already on the Imagio. I don't remember installing it on mine and its been working great.

Boss428man said:
Isn't Quick GPS already on the Imagio. I don't remember installing it on mine and its been working great.
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It is if you go into the All Applications area from the TouchFlo Start Menu.

Boss428man said:
Isn't Quick GPS already on the Imagio. I don't remember installing it on mine and its been working great.
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I was confused, when I opened up QuickGPS, it said "Download", so I assumed it was like the Windows Marketplace icon, and that you actually had to download the program first. I was wrong- download means download GPS Data.

makryger said:
I was confused, when I opened up QuickGPS, it said "Download", so I assumed it was like the Windows Marketplace icon, and that you actually had to download the program first. I was wrong- download means download GPS Data.
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Correct, and it will auto-close after as it's not needed to stay running to work, just download cache files and exit.

Give it a try it has always worked will for me

IGO 8 is by far the best navigation software takes some tweaking to get it to work but if you do some searching you can find what your looking for on the net. Garmin XT uses a bit less program memory and still works well but not near as slick as IGO. Make sure you use latest possible release and maps.

Is it Igo 8 or OnCourse 8 in the US. I went to the site and found it a little confusing. Looked pretty nice either way.

Can't get Tomtom to work
On the topic of GPS programs, I have used Tomtom Navigator 6 (purchased version) for some time. Worked great on my AT&T fuze, but when I tried to install it on the imagio, it looks like everything is smooshed to the top of the screen, and is unusable. I contacted Tomtom, but they replied simply that it was an unsupported phone. I guess I'll have to try a different program. Anybody else had issues?

sdph said:
On the topic of GPS programs, I have used Tomtom Navigator 6 (purchased version) for some time. Worked great on my AT&T fuze, but when I tried to install it on the imagio, it looks like everything is smooshed to the top of the screen, and is unusable. I contacted Tomtom, but they replied simply that it was an unsupported phone. I guess I'll have to try a different program. Anybody else had issues?
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I've been using TomTom for years too. On my PDA's and winmo phones. I didn't install it on the Imagio because I was going to get the latest maps from TomTom and see if they had any software updates. But all they have on their site now is iPhone and zip for winmo, so it looked to me like they were dropping windows support, so I dropped them.
I can get by with Google Maps and/or Windows Live Search (Bing) - and for turn by turn I'm now using the $35 CoPilot 8. Works real well, but I have very limited time on it so far.
I was going to switch to Garmin XT, but you need a completely dedicated microSD for that - that's a deal breaker.

My friend installed wm 6.5 on his wing and he is having a similar problem with TOMTOM being very laggy. I think its a wm 6.5 issue and not and Imagio!

touch hd gps

Hi
i have read in a few other posts regarding GPS issues and Sat Nav software not working
now i have seen a few programs that 'kick off' the GPS and then runs the program and i have run these to no avail,
i was wondering if anyone else has not only had this issue but struggled to get it working, google maps seems to pick me up via GPS but tomtom is saying 'no gps device' go into settings within tomtom and set to internal gps device, and check gps status and no cannot see any satellites. i have had the phone outside inthe line of sight of the sky for an hour so me being inpatient isn't the issue, any help would be greatly appreciated
ta

Try this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/GPS/GPS-Test-34335.shtml
Update QuickGPS.
If no satellites show up after a max of 5mins of you standing outside with clear view of the sky, then you either need to flash another radio or the gps is dead.

hi
thanks
have left phone outside running that, seems to be scanning com1-9..pausing for a second on port 3 then continuing. will let you know in 10 mins, what is flashing another radio involve?
ta

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466274

ok stupid question time, but if it google maps seems to be working ok would that not suggest that the GPS radio is ok, and secondly if i did flash which one would i go for on that link you sent
i have radio version 1.09.25.14 protocol 52.49a.25.261u
there is a link
Download 1.09.25.14 / 52.49a.25.26W Radio only Megepload
Download HD_Blackstone_Radio 1.09.25.14 (with RUU) 4shared
am i flashing this even though my protocol is different?
and there is about another 10 files below all them called
Blackstone Rilphone.dll Cabs
all confusing can you help any more please
thanks

I don't believe anything google maps says in relation to GPS after it told me one of my non GPS phones had inbuilt gps, and then calculated my position using the mobile phone network.
As for which you need, well it depends on which rom you are running, whether it's a stock rom (bog-standard rom you get on device when you buy it), or a custom cooked rom from someone on the forums. I suggest you read up on it thoroughly then post in the correct radio thread if you want to ask any more questions regarding the right radio version you need.

fair do's
thanks

Did you have google maps open when you started Tomtom? That may have caused an error

hi
thanks for reply, no i open google maps it seems to find my location. close google maps, then open tomtom and is saying no gps device. the 'onboard' gps device is set on tomtom options it's just as if the gps reciever isn't picking up, same in other sat nav progams too, garmin is the same so makes me think is phone not software issue

AFAIK, Google Maps is A-GPS software, while TomTom, iGO and others are full GPS software.
Don't know about TomTom, but iGO DOES NOT work if A-GPS is enabled...

hmmmm. i'll give it a whirl, not got the phone withme at the mo, a mate is attempting to simunock it, agps is enabled so i will disable it see if that helps. tempted to get rid and get an effing iphone at this rate

Let us know how you go....
Don't give up, it;s a great phone

had the same issue with tomtom v7.450. using tomtom v7.916 now and it's running like charm

Just had replacement Touch HD delivered from Orange this morning, flashed to my usual ROM, and get exactly the same symptoms as Pete did.....
Tried:
TomTom
Memory map
HTC GPS Tool
Updating QuickGPS
Updating Radio ROM to latest version
Reflashing different OS roms
nothing makes a difference.
Not really keen to take it apart as i'll break the VOID sticker and probably end up in an argument with Orange, but Id bet any money that the GPS cable has come loose......so frustrating as im working abroad as of next week and i'll really use the GPS a lot......
Also just found out that the replacement handset is "refurb".....I bet the muppet that refurbed it didnt reconnect the GPS cable