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With all the custom programs out there for the mogul, I'm in heaven. So far most everything has worked great. I'm running DCD 3.0.1, with the newest radio. A few small issues, but for me nothing to get worked up about.
Recently, I did alot of researching into GPS software. I wanted a program that was kinda like a all in one. One GPS program to do it all. I've tried quite a few and settled on the Garmin XT. It does pretty much everything for mobile Gps. As for Geocaching or "on foot" GPS, I use Tracky.
Now with this in mind, I was noticing some of the things I've seen other people talk about. Jump Starting the GPS. Very critical, especially with garmin. So I decided to give that Astrolauncher program a shot. For Garmin, it works like a champ. Only problem I find is with the Time. The first thing I noticed was the garmin part switched to night mode in the middle of the day time. Didn't think much about it. I closed the program out and later on noticed the time was WAYYY off on the phone. Only way to fix it is to restart the phone. I can't seem to narrow the problem down. Is this a program that is being initiated with Astrolauncher? Or is it a problem with the Garmin GPS? Does anyone else notice this? When it does happen, if I restart the phone, then restart Garmin, it is fine. But it seems like its the initial startup where it happens.
Any ideas?
Just for info, I will do a review on my findings for all my GPS software I've played with.
Thanks for the ideas in advance.
Chem
Chemdawg said:
With all the custom programs out there for the mogul, I'm in heaven. So far most everything has worked great. I'm running DCD 3.0.1, with the newest radio. A few small issues, but for me nothing to get worked up about.
Recently, I did alot of researching into GPS software. I wanted a program that was kinda like a all in one. One GPS program to do it all. I've tried quite a few and settled on the Garmin XT. It does pretty much everything for mobile Gps. As for Geocaching or "on foot" GPS, I use Tracky.
Now with this in mind, I was noticing some of the things I've seen other people talk about. Jump Starting the GPS. Very critical, especially with garmin. So I decided to give that Astrolauncher program a shot. For Garmin, it works like a champ. Only problem I find is with the Time. The first thing I noticed was the garmin part switched to night mode in the middle of the day time. Didn't think much about it. I closed the program out and later on noticed the time was WAYYY off on the phone. Only way to fix it is to restart the phone. I can't seem to narrow the problem down. Is this a program that is being initiated with Astrolauncher? Or is it a problem with the Garmin GPS? Does anyone else notice this? When it does happen, if I restart the phone, then restart Garmin, it is fine. But it seems like its the initial startup where it happens.
Any ideas?
Just for info, I will do a review on my findings for all my GPS software I've played with.
Thanks for the ideas in advance.
Chem
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I have stated before that VisualGPSce is my fav for this as it seems to lock the fastest for me. However, the new Sprint radio seems to lock for me in less than a minute on the highway every time. I rarely use VisualGPSce anymore.
If you can get TomTom, try that. I find it better and more user friendly than garmin. I do believe there is a way to turn off night mode within the settings on Garmin though.
I have not tried those two, but I will. I'm always willing to give new things a shot. As far as Garmin goes, I already have a Garmin Street Pilot, so I'm very familiar with how they work. I'm still baffled about this time thing. It doesn't do it all the time. I think if using Astrolauncher, to start the program, if it doens't lock like RIGHT away, the time goes to the GPS time which (Being that it's not locked yet), is wrong.
Make sense?
Chemdawg said:
I have not tried those two, but I will. I'm always willing to give new things a shot. As far as Garmin goes, I already have a Garmin Street Pilot, so I'm very familiar with how they work. I'm still baffled about this time thing. It doesn't do it all the time. I think if using Astrolauncher, to start the program, if it doens't lock like RIGHT away, the time goes to the GPS time which (Being that it's not locked yet), is wrong.
Make sense?
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I didn't see a link to Garmin in the install for Astro, I thought only TomTom and iGuidance. It may not help you with Garmin, but having not used it I can't say. You may be better with another primer program.
While I am not using either of those aps, I would wonder if going through the setting, you should be able to turn off the 'time sync w/ satellites' and just rely on other means for setting the time. i.e. phone network, or synced computer.
On the other hand, I have been using navizon to prime my gps w/ no time problems.
You may want to give it a shot, you can even make a little money while traveling around...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2057112
Chemdawg said:
With all the custom programs out there for the mogul, I'm in heaven. So far most everything has worked great. I'm running DCD 3.0.1, with the newest radio. A few small issues, but for me nothing to get worked up about.
Recently, I did alot of researching into GPS software. I wanted a program that was kinda like a all in one. One GPS program to do it all. I've tried quite a few and settled on the Garmin XT. It does pretty much everything for mobile Gps. As for Geocaching or "on foot" GPS, I use Tracky.
Now with this in mind, I was noticing some of the things I've seen other people talk about. Jump Starting the GPS. Very critical, especially with garmin. So I decided to give that Astrolauncher program a shot. For Garmin, it works like a champ. Only problem I find is with the Time. The first thing I noticed was the garmin part switched to night mode in the middle of the day time. Didn't think much about it. I closed the program out and later on noticed the time was WAYYY off on the phone. Only way to fix it is to restart the phone. I can't seem to narrow the problem down. Is this a program that is being initiated with Astrolauncher? Or is it a problem with the Garmin GPS? Does anyone else notice this? When it does happen, if I restart the phone, then restart Garmin, it is fine. But it seems like its the initial startup where it happens.
Any ideas?
Just for info, I will do a review on my findings for all my GPS software I've played with.
Thanks for the ideas in advance.
Chem
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Garmin does that to me only if I do not prime the GPS enough. I have been using GPS Test 1.04 because I am too lazy to find something better. I find if I wait long enough for it to find the first satellite, I don't have an issue with Garmin. If I launch GPS Test then immediately launch Garmin, I get the time zone change. I was going to try astrolauncher (that's why I'm reading this thread), but apparently I shouldn't bother... On to find something else.
Just surveying how well the GPS on the Touch works for most people. It seem as though many people still have problems, even after the carrier updates and all the hacking done here. I personally could never get the GPS working consistently without using Alltel Navigator, which cost $10 a month.
My current theory is that the phone's radio injects noise into the GPS receiver, either because it shares an antenna with the phone, or for the same reason why a powerful radio signal (like driving past a transmitter tower) can overwhelm the front end of receivers that aren't even near the transmitter's frequency.
Evidence: If I launch Google Maps when I'm offline, and I can select "Use GPS" and avoid having Google Maps try to go online before it acquires at least 3 GPS satellites, it seems to lock on within a minute or so about 90% of the time.
If anything causes the phone to go online before I've acquired GPS, it almost never seems to succeed.
If I take/make a voice call, or engage in sustained data transfer, it almost always seems to lose the GPS signal.
If I pan/scroll the map and cause Google Maps to need a BIG chunk of data, it will probably lose the GPS signal.
I'd be interested to hear whether anyone else has noticed a similar inverse correlation between RF activity and GPS acquisition.
Hmmm, I haven't noticed any correlation between data and location, it's an interesting theory though. It takes me anywhere from a minute to 15 seconds to get a lock, and when occasionally satellite signal drops out, Google maps finds it again within 10 seconds or less. I'm a verizon user, btw, and I use GMaps, Live, and TomTOm7+GpsViewer.
Mine works great -
Mine works great - I have Garmin XT for turn-by-turn and it seems to find satellites pretty fast - The other day I decided to try a little experiment and I set up both my Sony GPS and my Touch and pressed "go" at the same time and the Touch GPS was just a fraction of a second behind the Sony (both from a cold start), which I think is pretty good - I have no problem using Windows Live, but for some reason the most recent Google Maps doesn't work as well, it can take forever (seemingly) to lock.
baud rate
after doing a little more
research, i found a post
suggesting to use the
57600 baud rate in google
maps. it worked and i got
a lock within about a minute
sorry bought the english
im typing on my phone here
at work.
my 6800 locks consistanly with in 15 seconds. Just bought the wife a 6900 and its been taking about 1-2 minutes. Not sure why that is.
i had a lot of trouple with my gps being inconsistent and what not. this post on ppc geeks fixed the problem now i connect 6-11 satsellites in 30 seconds or less. duno if it'll help u but u can try it:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377&highlight=shadow-tech+agps
not taking any credit for that guide it was pmed to me im pretty sure all acknowledgements are made within the post itself.
Use this to get your GPS working well...
My GPS works excellently with Google maps, as well as with iGO8. I can lock into about 8 sats in 15 seconds or so using the AstroGPSLauncher that AstronusX created and posted at this thread.
Took me just a couple of minutes to create the shortcut and put it in my program list.
I might lose satellites in iGO8 if I get a phone call and take it, but it will get back the sats after a minute or two once the phone call has completed.
Hope this helps.
Steve
Carrick1973 said:
My GPS works excellently with Google maps, as well as with iGO8. I can lock into about 8 sats in 15 seconds or so using the AstroGPSLauncher that AstronusX created and posted at this thread.
Took me just a couple of minutes to create the shortcut and put it in my program list.
I might lose satellites in iGO8 if I get a phone call and take it, but it will get back the sats after a minute or two once the phone call has completed.
Hope this helps.
Steve
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Do you have M2D plugin?
I have NFSFAN Rom and Igo8 is really pain. If you switch to Today or just phone - there is no way to get IGo back. Have to Reset.
Yes, I've been running iGo8 on NSFFAN's 1.08 ROM. I agree that it dogs down damn bad when I get a call while running iGo, but I can get it back up without having to reset if there isn't anything else running. It does take quite awhile to get sat locks back though after switching over to phone. It might be quicker to close out of iGo and restart.
Thanks for all the helpful post guys, that 57600 baud rate didn`t last to long. It was just as inconsistant as anything else I tried. I`ve heard about the Shadow Tech`s Fix for a while now but never tried it till last night. I am having some trouble with the dialing ##3424 step. I`ve tried the different 3424 numbers, and using task manager to open Dmrouter.exe under /DIAG parameters. Nothing happens on my phone, and I don`t see HTC Diag in Device Manager on XP. I have another post on the Shadow Tech Fix thread, but if anybody here knows what I`m doing wrong I`d appreciate a little info.
BTW I`m using NFSfans alltel 1.02 rom
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Thanks for all the helpful post guys, that 57600 baud rate didn`t last to long. It was just as inconsistant as anything else I tried. I`ve heard about the Shadow Tech`s Fix for a while now but never tried it till last night. I am having some trouble with the dialing ##3424 step. I`ve tried the different 3424 numbers, and using task manager to open Dmrouter.exe under /DIAG parameters. Nothing happens on my phone, and I don`t see HTC Diag in Device Manager on XP. I have another post on the Shadow Tech Fix thread, but if anybody here knows what I`m doing wrong I`d appreciate a little info.
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If you go into windows and execute Dmrouter.exe it should, it may not change anything on your screen. Easy way to tell is if you have an activesync connection, execute it, and if activesync disconnects then your in it. Another way is to check task manager, and see if it is running.
There was a problem with the driver for the Vogue in WModem. I found a thread with the fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462712
Valahalla? I know it has to do with GPS just wondering what it is
Phone shows up as Palm treo modem
I got dmrouter.exe working, but in vista it shows up as palm treo modem after drivers are found and installed. I`ll try again in XP and see if it happens again.
Wow I finally got this to work (Shadow Techs Fix)
It took about a day and a half, but I finally got it!
1.) I flashed back to Official Alltel 6.1 Rom and skipped customizations.
2.) I followed the steps in this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377&highlight=shadow-tech+agps
3.) Reflashed back NFSFAN`s 1.02 Rom. I then tested it out and 10 seconds later I had 8 satellites locked on me.
Thanks to everybody who helped me out here with your posts. I started this thread as just a kinda survey to find out if I was not alone in having so much difficulty making my phone work as it should, and ended up a very happy Touch owner.
on alltel
it almost never works. shadow-tech's fix helps immensely
im in dominican republic
and i never manage to get a gps signal.
=/ is it me or the phone?
or the fact that this island is worst then the one in LOST
I checked the accuracy of the GPS on my phone about a year ago- Sometimes I work with surveyors, so we matched my vogue against a survey grade GPS to determine how off it was- My phone was +/- 3 feet (1m) in latititude and +/- 10 feet (3m) in longitude. I think that's pretty damn good. This was in a refinery in NJ, USA, with lots of big steel tanks around.
First I was using gps toggle, now I'm running NSFANs 6.5 v8 with gps viewer. I never have trouble getting a lock after about a minute of warming up.
Concerning the Shadow tech fix some of you guys have used here : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377&highlight=shadow-tech+agps
I was wondering if this fix has already been incorporated into all the cooked ROMs for the Vogue that have come out since March '09?
I have serious problems with my TD2..
At first when i got the phone, everything worked good. But now a month later the gps gives me the cold hand.
I use OziExplorerCE for offroad navigation. And my main purpose is to record tracks while i follow paths in the woods.
I get a fix in a couple of seconds. But it can be a couple of hundred meters wrong, a minute or so later It can be accurate again, And then it jumpes here and there, and when i follow a straight path, the tracktail looks like a spiderweb from all the jumping.
Tomtom and Pathaway seems to have the same problems on my device.
I´ve tried some suggested registry tweeks, modified buffersize pollintervall etc.
And I have A-gps disabled in Advanced Config, gps logging disabled...
I have tried everything suggested I´ve found in this forum.
Does anyone have a clue on what to do?
A
What ROM and RADIO version on your D2? I have seen those problem before due to RADIO version.
Also GPS is a very sensitive, even in clear a High building, bad weather or even Silicone protection case can effect a GPS's performance.
you can also try other RADIO version.. Hope it's help.
hi, i have had an unusual issue in that the GPS on the device does not work any more, it did before around 2 weeks ago when i used google maps with the compass working as well.
i have tried soft resets and to check the com ports (i am unsure of the defaults for com port, is it 0?) and have tried to set them manually and also to allow the device to automatically set them. The digital compass has allways been working.
i have installed a fue gps applications recently, since i last used the gps successfully, and have noticed the gps not working in any of these and then not working in the pre-installed applications;
(installed in descending order)
-iGO 8
-GPS sport computer
-wifi fo fum 2
-GPS speedo
-hd speedo
-gps cycle computer
i have uninstalled these since and the GPS still is not being picked up in the digital compass application and google maps (both the preinstalled apps on the original ROM out the box, and were working with gps around 2 weeks back).
i have made sure i am always in clear sight of the sky, but no prevail their.
if some one could please help me on what to do to regain the functionality of the gps again, i would be great full.
p.s. has anyone else had this issue or a similar one?
Try downloading something with setelite tracker. GCZII is such application (good for geocaching btw).
Sometimes, the GPS has wrong satellite data. You will see (on the satellite tracker) it can receive some signal, but the satellites will not show above you, but let's say all to the north.
Go to start/tools and run QickGPS and download new data. That should help. It will download current data via internet. But it may help not. Sometimes bad data on these servers are the source of the problem.
So next thing you can try is use file explorer and go to Temp folder. There is file xtra.bin. That's where the data are stored. Try to remove it and soft reset. Try running your GPS without the file. It will take some time to fix (up to 5 minutes), but it should work.
If that does not help, QuickGPS will get the file back. I had problems like this on X1 .. usually something helped, either refreshing, or removing the file. On HD2 I needed it once, and refreshing the data using QuickGPS helped.
I'd suggest to try htc's own gpstool and see if you get anything at all on com4. search the forum for htc debug tools, the exe is in that package. And...disable quickgps and delete xtra.bin from \temp
Nice application .. I was looking for something like that ! Thanks !
thanks for the replies.
sofar i tried the qgps file removal with out success.
i have aso found something else out thats concerning, thats in igo 8 when i run a auto detect scan for gps device it come back saying their is no gps device.
it also seems to be the case when i ran gczll and the htc-gps-tool.
so i think that the gps driver? or device is the root of the issue?
hope this helps with the suggestions on how to resolve the issue?
Thanks for the helping again.
Aslo check settings/external gps.
First tab (programs) should be: COM4
Second tab (Hardware) should be: None, and 4800 (or anything I guess).
Third tab (Access) should be: Yes, manage GPS automatically
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Nice application .. I was looking for something like that ! Thanks !
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You're welcome ;-)
Have you installed any "tweakers" like BsB Tweaks, HD2Tweaks or similar? Have you messed around in the registry with drivers and such? I assume you didnt see any gpsdata at all on port com4 using the htcgpstool, what exactly happened when you opened com4?
Imho, if the above post by Sid doesn't do the trick, the easiest way out is probably a hardreset.
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what rom are you on, stock or custom, and have you never been able to use the gps or did this happen after a while, perhaps after you installed an app or something?
its stock rom, i havent ventured into cooked roms yet. (reading into it, getting a understanding of it all over last 2-3 days)
haven't messed around with the registy of bsb and dont have htctweaks (not sure on how to do that yet)
nothing happens when i run the htcgpstools, on com 4, same as it does nothing on any other application. it just continues to look (for a long time) or says no gps (like in igo 8).
im thinking that hard reset my be the best option as well.
could something have happened to the radio and broken down the communications of the gps device? (im not a expert, just a theory?)
and just on a cooked rom question.
i wanted a rom that has copilot removed and the full ram enabled, and just to include the performance update drivers (i have adk 1 runtime atm that improves the jitteriness) and other updates that hot fixes have done. but i want to keep stuff like animated weather etc.
from what i have seen it looks like dutty is the man for this type of rom?
could you recommend a cooked rom for a first timer/noobie?
Thanks.
I had a similer problem on my Touch Diamond.
Try switching off.... take the battery out for 1 hour, reinsert battery then turn on. I think that the GPS locked up.
Good luck
steveianson said:
I had a similer problem on my Touch Diamond.
Try switching off.... take the battery out for 1 hour, reinsert battery then turn on. I think that the GPS locked up.
Good luck
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Hmm, you might be right. I still believe your best shot is a HR...
OK well did a hard reset and that has done the trick.
The GPS works and locks with in 10seconds from my window so working brilliant again.
Thanks for all the suggestions and the time taken to help out.
Hi all,
I am new to the android OS, got my galaxy s a week ago.
I still keep my HD2 and to be honest I may sell the galaxy due to the poor gps reception and keep the hd2 for the next year.
The other thing I do not like is the fact that I cannot program the buttons behaviour.
Any way my question is, is it possible to disable the build in gps and use an external Bluetooth GPS Receiver?
The gps on my hd2 is miles, miles better.
I dont think its possible in this version of android. There is no way to tell the app to use the external gps instead of the internal one.
All we can hope for is a fix from Samsung.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
what is all the fuss about android then...
it doesnot support such a basic thing...
absolute joke
GPS won't start
Hello, I am experiencing an issue with my phone and I was wondering if anyone knows a solution.
Basically the GPS receiver won't turn on when an application requests it, so it won't get any location information (the gps notification icon doesn't appear at all). This is definitely a software issue, because if you go to the settings menu and keep fiddling with the location settings (gps on<->off, wireless on<->off) at some point it WILL turn on and work correctly (and the gps icon appears), but randomly afterwards it will go back to not starting up again and you have to go back to the settings menu.
Is there a workaround for this? I'm hoping that a firmware update will fix it, but in the meantime is there anything that can be done? (I'd prefer to wait for the official firmware before flashing it).
Not really a fix but Extended Controls can make a switch on your home screen that will flip the gps function on and off, that will save some time if you have to go into that menu a lot.
darnap said:
Hello, I am experiencing an issue with my phone and I was wondering if anyone knows a solution.
Basically the GPS receiver won't turn on when an application requests it, so it won't get any location information (the gps notification icon doesn't appear at all). This is definitely a software issue, because if you go to the settings menu and keep fiddling with the location settings (gps on<->off, wireless on<->off) at some point it WILL turn on and work correctly (and the gps icon appears), but randomly afterwards it will go back to not starting up again and you have to go back to the settings menu.
Is there a workaround for this? I'm hoping that a firmware update will fix it, but in the meantime is there anything that can be done? (I'd prefer to wait for the official firmware before flashing it).
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I can confirm the same issue, rumour is that the upcoming firmware is going to improve the GPS a lot.
You can also use the 'Power Control' Widget that comes with the device.
Here you can turn On/Off a number of items, one being GPS.
I had this issue but it's just a case of going into settings and toggling the gps off and on again.
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Good to know about the GPS on/off switch.
I was always rebooting my phone to get the GPS back to work.
There is an option in the secret GPS menu where you can set it to cold start, instead of hot start. Fixed it for me.
More here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725748
not sure this will work but...
not sure this will work but found thin in Android market...
3 x w. appbrain dot com/app/googoo.android.btgps
Cleaner
Bluetooth External GPS
Hey guys. I wanted to know if we can 'natively' from within Android 2.1 / Samsung Galaxy S use an external bluetooth gps...
In the bluetooth menu I can conenct to the TomTom bluetooth gps module but it can't be paired...
however after some digging I found this app:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.googoo-android-btgps-AtDE.aspx
It does what it says. I get satellites straight away.
Now one big big problem with this app is that it closes as soon as I try and open another app by pressing the home button or even holding down the home button to switch between apps...
when the app closes it ends the connection between the TomTom bluetooth gps module meaning by the time a satnav app has opened the message box pops up and says 'do you want to enable gps'
why does this app close when you try open another app? No other apps like Asphalt etc close like this...
is there a way to use the external gps?
many thanks
From my limited understanding, no it's not possible. I don't know why, but Android has been a bit slow on the uptake for Bluetooth.
It's taken to FroYo to actually get Bluetooth Hands Free dialling - we'll see how good Google is in interpreting what you say to it, so far, it hasn't been successful for me on the phone itself let alone Bluetooth.
With regards Bluetooth GPS, I understand that it isn't possible. There would at least have to be some kind of underlying interface to overrule the internal GPS and feed the Bluetooth GPS information into the OS in place.
I want it to be possible, then we wouldn't care so much about broken GPS's.
Cya
Simon
Another GPS fix
Hey guy give this a try and let me know if it works for you.
http://theandroidrevolution.blogspot.com/2010/07/android-tips-tricks-samsung-galaxy-s.html
working like a charm, faster fix and i can actually use the GPS while driving (EU)
Isn't this like turng skyhook on?
Ie ,..whilst locki it uses wifi to identify where u are?
this fix it seems very accurate in Maps, whereas all other "fixes" did not work for me.
i don't notice anything different in GPS tester (i still hardly get any satellites if any) but in Maps my position seems to be very accurate....i'm just inside in my flat, but all other fixes never helped me before even in this situation.
Hello
Thanks for your suggestion for a GPS fix
Immediate I can not see the big difference in standard configuration and the change which you refer to.
I still have a unsettled GPS fix when I use Google maps.
However, I think I can see a slight improvement in the Google navigation. Now I remain almost always in the correct lane.
I use (default) I9000XXJF3
I've read that a newer version should resolve the GPS "problem", but is it possible to change the parameters of GPS I9000XXJF3 match the parameters of the new versions. ?
And just one question more.
If I close the GPS from the phone to calculate my position after mobile mast or WIFI.
How do I get it to find my location by WIFI.?
Hope for a response.
Thanks
Herman
This fix gives an instant , i mean instant gps fix with a clear sky.
on gps test gets 8-9 satellite now , when previously i could max get 1-2, that too not connect.
thanks a ton for this.
outside this fix i also had operation mode as ms based and had skyhook on.
I found this suggested fix a few hours back as well and have been trying it out.
I didn't get much better results from it to start out with but having played the accuracy setting I've found putting this up to 150 seems to make a big difference. Once I made this change GPS Test seems to show that the Galaxy is a bit less picky about the signal strength it needs before making a lock.
I've not gone any further in testing accuracy numbers beyond 5, 20 (the default I believe) 50 and 150. It might be worth trying other values.