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some questions for a newbie

I have a G4 CID-locked (not completely sure, but my info will tell) wizard. I bought it recently in ebay and wanted to ask a few questions. some are not wizard related, but I think I can ask them here to avoid opening another thread.
My info:
IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
OS 2.17.7.2
rom version 2.17.7.2 WWE
ExtROM 2.17.7.102
radio 02.07.10
protocol version 413.1.03
I am happy with the current rom, but wanted something faster (and wpa2 support would be a plus). I need at least the same stability, storage space and speed that I have now. What do you recommend, AKU 3.x or WM6?
what is exactly the extended rom, what is it for? is it only for carrier programs?
I have the original qtek rom (updated from myqtek.com). Assuming I can get to the bootloader screen, I can always reflash with it and go back to what I have now, right? I mean, I can do this if I get a bad flash and if I'm not happy with the new rom.
is there an AKU 3.x rom for wizard without any extra software installed?
the same question for wm6 roms
I know the WM6 roms still have some problems, but what about the AKU3.x roms? are they (close to at least) bug free?
From what I read, there is now a way to flash roms without unlocking, but only the OS section. Is there a reason to update the other sections as well? can I update the other sections without unlocking?

Understand that I don't have a G4 device to play with but maybe I can answer some of you general questions and others can help you with G4 specific stuff.
1st, If you're happy with the way your device is working for you There's no real reason to mess with the os or radio. (unless you are like me and can't stand having an unhacked device laying around.)
Having said that, there are different types of rom updates. Some replace everything (boot loader, radio, os, extended rom, etc.) Others only replace certain parts, for instance the radio can be upgraded without changing anything else. Before changing anything else, make sure you have an original rom to go back to and that you know how to restore it. Also you should have a good backup program like SpbBackup. This won't save you from a bad flash but is really helpful in preserving your data and settings, especially since once you start down this road, you are going to start playing with more and more unstable bleeding edge stuff that will crash more often. You won't be able to stop yourself, it's an addiction - U have been warned!
There are plenty of good, stable, 2.2x roms around. For 3.3, faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3 seemed pretty stable for me. I'm using WM6 right now, but I don't feel that it's stable enough for inexperienced users just yet. As far as radio roms go, if your radio is working good for you I wouldn't change it. From my observations here, it really depends on where you are and who your carrier is.
If your reception is good, there is no reason to upgrade just to get a higher number on your boot screen. A newer radio version might make things worse.
Extended rom can hold anything the rom cook wants to put in it. Some are loaded with add on programs, some have carrier customizations, some are empty.
If all you want is zippier response, check out OmapClock, an overclocking app that makes the processor run faster.
Finally, read the threads and make sure you understand exactly how the process works before starting out and especially how the proceedure apples to a G4 device.
Other more experienced users are welcomed to elaborate or correct me if I am wrong on any of this, and add G4 specific advice.
-rob

Help The Noob!!!!

Hello
P.s. Is this the right thread i am posting i dont know....is this is a wrong thread and if i am not supposed to post here then i am sorry for my noobness.....
well, dought a diamond few days back....its a used piece that has no warrenty.....so i have been thinking of modding it with new rom and s/w.....well basically i am a noob in upgrading roms...but i have seen my friend do it a couple of times,felt its a no sweat process....and i wanna try my hand at it....
well basically i need a good rom....(i know i should have searched the forum for roms....but i need your valuable Wisdom in choosing the right rom cause if i choose a wrong one i might mess things up.....and no i am not Lazy)
well...i want a good rom....plz suggest me a few...i will now mention what i need in my phone....so plz..be patient
i need
Windows Mobile OS Rom(preferably The Latest 6.1 cause its the stable one around....i dont know about 6.5 is it any good..?)
can i have the cube application in the Diamond......it would look cool to use it...
Mobile Office,Pdf Reader,yahoo messenger,a nice all in one media player..(like vlc on pc platform....it plays everything i throw at it...i just love it..)
i would also like to have the Htc Touch Viva Blue Theme.....i dont Know what its called but i saw it on my friend phone and it was pleasent...

Hey, u know that your phone can brick, right?
You really should read a lot about flashing before doing it.
Start >here<
After that proceed here
If you read everything carefully and want to flash a new ROM be shure to
do it step by step as it's suggested.
And I guess you have read it quite often, but you have to find your own ROM.
Try some and then decide which to use. It's most satisfying^^
And yes, 6.1 is more stable than 6.5 for now so you should take a 6.1 ROM.
But have a look at these two ROMs. I have tryed them both besides many other and I used the A.Z.T.O.R. series for a long time -> very stable and really fast! Will use it again when X3 will be released I don't know if they fit all of your personal needs, but especially for some special theme or so on you should search the Thread you posted this request
A.Z.T.O.R.
udK Syrius
Good luck!
PS.: Please use a topic that contains some more information next time

oh dang i could only get to the first sentence because i have cdma

Thanks for the reply marcel .....i know that i am risking it...but hey...better to die than live a coward all my life ....i want to go thru this...
and okay nxt time i will name the thread more appealingly....

I would recommend two options. You can use Cloudy 1.1 with and without Manila. I have tried both. The WITH Manila has the TF3D with it which is very nice. However, my preference is WITHOUT Manila and then add SPB Mobile Shell 3.0. This is more user friendly.
Both options are very fast and with lots of free ram (more than 50Mb)...
I am not sure if these work with CDMA - please check first.
By the way, I think there is so much great help on these sites (and PPC Geeks) that you will always find a way to get your phone looking and feeling the way you like.
Good luck!

Oops...!!!
Sorry i forgot to mention..the Diamond i right now have was flashed earlier...so right now its having a custom rom by diamond project team....well i am looking for a move basic rom.....which is almost or most likely official rom...

if you want a official rom you can visit HTC.com and download the latest official rom that have been released. whether or not you can use the custom spl without doing any harm i have no idea about since i do not know anything about roms and flashing i just know that HTC has official roms on their site

I think u can download ROMs from HTC if u own an original-HTC device, right?
I wasn't able to download their ROMs because I bought my Diamond from a German reseller
-> Same phone, nearly the same look but an unsupported IMEI (?)
And again I can propose an A.Z.T.O.R. ROM^^
Alpha Zero Tweaked Official Roms = A.Z.T.O.R.
And as your phone was flashed before you should have no probs flashing a new ROM^^ So try some and then choose

The Whole Story!!!
Actually The Diamond i Right now have was bought off the gray market..it was actually a orange network locked phone...so the phone is right now unlocked,gray market product....
Okie....i will take a look at AZTOR..

Ahem...
Well i decided to go with this hardspl....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402 but i cannot seem to understand which radio file to choose....and Roms are Relatively not a big problem...i will try AZTOR OR Duttys..plz gimme a latest stable Radio file...

WTF....!!!!
...
operator ver : Diamondproject Team
Rom Ver : 1.93.921.2 WWE
Rom date : 14/08/08
Radio Version : 1.20.olinex
Protocol Ver : 52.26a.25.09U
some one just gimme good files.....itseems i cannot listen to radio..??!!even set to the frequency i just hear blur sound nothing else....i tried the Hard Spl signed one 1.40...and nothing actually changed....just my phone got hard reset....
so plz...plz...some one Help...
Well as you can see ,itseems i have a 2008 Rom.....i am looking for a 2009 rom...u know..more newer/latest..

okay..i am getting a hang of it.....but still a long way to go...
well..i have found the Rom that my phone currently has...and its link is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413820
i noticed that my radio is not working.....????
i want to use a more latest Rom & would like to listen to radio on my phone... Any help would be appericated...and if nothing else works...imma gonna PM the TOM_CODON Mod who made the rom...

Okay..!!!!
Guys Finally..i manged to flash the whole phone...i.e Hardspl,radio & Rom ...
i am happy with the new os..but noticed that radio is not working...??!!i have created a new thread for help on radio.....check it out at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=510839

Sloowwwww

Im looking for a bit of reassurance to be honest, i have a love hate relationship with my HD2...when its running smoothly and doing what i want, i LOVE it, its perfect, but often when i try open something, and those 4 coloured circles start spinning and i have to press the far right hard key (power button) to put in stand by then open again to try and solve the load issue, i HATE it. Not only that...i get lag quite often when scrolling along that bar at the bottom.
I don't know much about all this but i have a o2 HD2, (not sure if they have sent me a branded or unbranded one?),
OS version 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
Manilla Version 2.5.19202525.0
ROM Version 1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE
Radio Version 2.04.50.22_2
I believe I have a flash to do? Will this improve my lag issues, making me LOVE this phone more than I HATE it?
cheers guys.

There has to be some problem, I have never experienced any lag (unless it was caused by bugy software or application). So the problem can be some application u have installed. Flashing a custom rom can help.

i want to flash the latest software but i'm so confused by it all i've been so reluctant to do it lol. theres so many custom roms which one do i install? so much abbreviations i dont know what they mean andim scared of bricking my phone! i dont mind losing all the applications and date, i find so far the HD2 has crap applications as it is...
An example of loading issues, this morning when i was driving i wanted to see what song was on the radio, so i opened midomi at the beginning of the song, it was loading for a while, i tried being patient but had to put in standby a close it in the task manager, then open it again. by this time the song had finished...

I dont use midomi so cant say if it is working for me.
I was scared too when I was going to flash for the first time my old tytn II, its not so bad. Just read the stickies in rom development thread and there is everything u need to know.

Matt:
The first thing you want to do if you don't want to wait on O2 to release their new ROM is read THIS thread. Once you understand that thread, you need to install HSPL onto your phone. This allows yout to flash ANY ROM, custom or stock, to your phone.
I'd start off with the latest HTC ROM (1.66) and see how you get on with that. After you've given that a run, and know what you want from your device, then you can start to look into custom ROMs. Don't bother asking which is best as it's subjective - everyone likes something different. Personally, CleanEx is worth a look as it's about to get a new release and sounds exciting. I'll be trying this again once it's available...

okay so my phone is from o2, do i need to pay to get it unlocked before i can do anything?

Depends if it's SIM locked - if it is you'll have to ask O2 for the unlock code (there's a page on their website to get it - should be free). HSPL and flashing the ROM won't remove the SIM lock. You can flash the ROM before the SIM lock removal

As EddyOS says, you can get the SIM lock removed for free from O2, but you don't need to do that in order to flash new ROMs.

SMS lag issue (not multiple sms loading issue)

i switched out my iphone 3g with an HD2 phone, and so far i like the phone itself. except one thing irritates the crap out of me and makes me just about want a different phone. when texting, or doing ANYTHING on the phone for that matter, and i get an incoming text message, the phone completely freezes up for almost up to 10 seconds. every single time. this is quite irritating and i've searched and searched and searched for fixes to this problem. is there anything out there to remedy this problem? or am i going to be plagued with it for an unset amount of time?

Hi guy!
I remember that i have this "lag" in official ROM with 1.66 base, but now in 2.10 ROM the contact was update and it's really faster!
Wich rom are you using?

thank you for the quick reply. my version is 2.13.531.1
here's the full info of my phone
OS - 5.2.21892
manila - 2.5.20121412.2
rom - 2.13.531.1
radio - 2.10.50.26
protocol - 15.39.50.07U

That's really strange! Because since 2.10 i think that the lag was remove!
Then if you can (and want) you can flash your ROM with a cooked ROM!
(You're on TMO official ROM no?)
If you need help to chose a ROM i can help you!

what effects/benefits would flashing with a cooked rom do? i'm new to this type of format
and yes i am. i've owned the phone for only a week or two.

ah nevermind, i looked it up. they're basically custom roms, yes? so i guess the task would be to find the right rom

Custom ROM included lastest driver and update. Many tweaks or mod are cook in so it's works better than a basic cab!
The good Cook ROM offers you better memory beacause deleted some useless files, so fatser and stable for somes ROM. The HD2 was my first WM Phone (iPhone 3Gs before) i was afraid to use a cooked rom and now i'm addicted!
Only advantage so in Cook ROM (if it's a good ROM)

-Torres- said:
ah nevermind, i looked it up. they're basically custom roms, yes? so i guess the task would be to find the right rom
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Yes it's like an official ROM but with some Tweak and mod (like Cookies Home Tab)
Personnaly i'm using
Clean EX ROM and Hyper ROM it's a 6.5.x roms but clean EX do 6.5 roms (like officiel)
6.5.x are more finger friendly
Look these links!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618787 (chucky)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784 (energy)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580 (artemis)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656835 (Clean EX (3 ROMS in this kitchen)) (i'm using HyperROM)
All cook rom are good, but i select for you the most popular and after you will be a "pro" you can chose yourself !

awesome! thanks for the help i'll look through those and try one (or some) out. much appreciated!

ive been having same problem lately when texting. but all this ROM stuff kind of scares me a lil i dont really know what im doin, any advice on installing that stuff?

ok so i've tried to flash a rom about 4 times. couple times with chucky, and once with the ManiLess rom and everytime i get stuck. my phone goes through the 4 color screen, then HTC shows up on my phone with the progress bar (progress bar also shows up on my PC), but after a time, it stops responding and i must take my battery out and turn it back on to recover it. the RUU and the .nbh files are the only two files in the directory. i even tried using a different RUU than the one that came with the cooked ROM, but still does not work.
what could i be missing? i think i'm going to try one more time with a different ROM and see what happens

The36thChamber said:
ive been having same problem lately when texting. but all this ROM stuff kind of scares me a lil i dont really know what im doin, any advice on installing that stuff?
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so far in my experience it's pretty straight forward. you have a single .nbh file which is the rom, then an RUU application that should be in the same folder that launches a wizard and you just make sure your phone is plugged into the PC and synced and it does it all for you. but just so far for me it gets stuck.
here's a video that shows a guy doing it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vh7GAx_lZE&feature=player_embedded
clicks accept twice, then it automatically does it. mine just gets stuck at the HTC screen on the phone

Hum wich rom have you choose?
-So first you HSPL your phone (but you already do that so... go next step)
-second you need to task 29 your phone (clean beforme flashing)(by doolop)
-after you need flash your ROM and Radio ROM (if it's needed)
-And you can make an HardReset (after flashing) because some guys recommend that but i never do this and i never have problem!
And have fun!
So wich ROM? IS it possible that you make a short video?

-Torres- said:
so far in my experience it's pretty straight forward. you have a single .nbh file which is the rom, then an RUU application that should be in the same folder that launches a wizard and you just make sure your phone is plugged into the PC and synced and it does it all for you. but just so far for me it gets stuck.
here's a video that shows a guy doing it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vh7GAx_lZE&feature=player_embedded
clicks accept twice, then it automatically does it. mine just gets stuck at the HTC screen on the phone
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Why SSPL? HSPL is much better!

i just saw HSPL, and that was the next method i was going to try. i'm going to try the black dse one again. the same one you have. i like the darker theme to it

ok i'm giving up for the night. i have SPL 2.10, so i gotta downgrade, right? i'll look into that tomorrow...i've been staring at this screen for way too long haha.

hmmmm...further research says since i have SPL 2.10, there's no way to downgrade to 2.8 or lower, is there? so i'm stuck with 2.10 until an HSPL is released for it (if one even becomes released)?

To flash or not to flash - that is the question

Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David

for me (and quite a few others) the speed jump and stability are massively better than the stock roms our phones came with. However if you are happy with the speed and stability of your phone and you arent particularly intrested in experimenting in your phone then i maybe you shouldnt.

i was thinking what u are thinking a few weeks ago . could not dicide if it would make that bigger differance. but it does.
the 1st rom i tryed was steve's elegancia rom and i found it alot better than stock. more colour , faster, more stable. lots more options.
if i were you, now knowing what i know now i would change the stock rom.
plus its very easy to do .

i was in the same boat, except in the end i had no choice.
My phone was crashing daily and i eventually ran out of phone storage. So i bit the bullet and flashed the energy cht rom. I wont flash again as i now dont need to.
It is quicker, i compared it alongside a friends stock phone who literally has no apps on it at all and mine is faster. It looks waaaaaaaay better, it has much more storage and for me comes with way better options pre-installed such as swype etc.
As JJbdoggg said though if you are happy with what you already got then there probably is no NEED to flash.

as for installing everything again, lots of cooked roms use the autoinstall feature. put your most commonly used cabs into a folder called autoinstall on the sd card, and the rom installs them when it first runs.

As others have mentioned, most think as you are when they are contemplating this or anything for the first time, but id challenge you to find someone on XDA who has started flashing and all of a sudden stopped.
It becomes addictive because you are always searching for a better setup, faster etc and as it becomes easier for you to do as you become more accustomed, why wouldnt you.
Most have purchased the HD2 as its a tweakers phone, great in standard form but with so much variety in ROMS these days, your litterally a few clicks away of never looking back.
Once you start you wont be able to stop There are just so many varieties, saves you alot of hassles in terms of installing everything via CAB's as its cooked in and there are always newer updates coming out with so many tweaks for the better.

Hi
I find that if you were to flash a custom rom based around wm 6.5, the main improvements would be the updated base os and cooked apps. This can bring added stability and speed, and of course the htc base updates also bring new divers, but there is no sure and fast way to rate this with so many different apps around.
For me the biggest improvement over stock roms is the ability to use a rom based around 6.5.x which in my opinion is far more user friendly than 6.5. All of my apps work great with 6.5.x and is far more finger friendly. Come on HTC give us a official 6.5.x update!!

dso371 said:
Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David
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Do eet...do eet now!
Seriously, flashing a GOOD rom will make your phone like new. That flash comes with updated software packages, optimized Winmo settings, etc.
Best of luck and happy flashing!

flash it! it always helps, as most custom roms are way better than stock roms!

i've flashed my first custom ROM on my TD2 in september 2009 after using stock ROM for about 2 or 3 weeks... i've tested mostly all available ROMs out there.
then i've bought my HD2 and even did not start it once in delivery condition! i've put in the battery, start bootloader, flash hspl and agian started to test available ROMs for HD2
for me windows mobile is not a platform for use out of the box! but it's my favorite platform due to the possibilities of customisation

I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...

dio62000 said:
I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...
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(assuming you have a regular leo)
dont forget the warranty need only be invalid for ten minutes. You dont have to leave hspl installed once the rom is flashed.
install hspl2 - choose 2.08.hspl
install cooked rom
run hspl2 again - choose 1.66.0000 - thats it, hspl is gone.
thats it, you have a cooked rom, and a valid spl. They wont refuse you for the cooked rom, only if you try sending it back with hspl still installed.

Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?

dio62000 said:
Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?
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no one has reported having it refused except when hspl is installed.
in theory you can make a stock rom look like a cooked rom just using cabs, (in theory, in practice it would be pretty tough) whereas hspl specifically violates the terms of use.
not sure what your last sentence means. hspl simply bypasses region and provider lock checks so the rom will install. once it is installed it doesn't need to be a hacked spl.

Thanks for explaining. I didn't know what exactly hspl does apart from allowing to flash different ROMs (although I used it for someone else's device to flash to a different language just following the instructions on the "how to flash"-topic ).

so what is a good rom
Hi
So what is a good rom
how does one instal it
how do I prepare such an installation
where to find the download of a good rom
thanks
E

it's definitly worth it, even if it takes you some time to restore everything to the way it was befor! In case you become addicted to flashing you'll find a way to easily restore everything each time your flash.
I would never go back to any Stock ROM, only to send my phone back to be repaired!
Just follow the flash guides, it's really easy and takes like 10 minutes (maybe longer the first time because you try to avoid mistakes):
remove SIM and SD cards (!), do a task29, flash radio (optional!), flash ROM, hard-reset, let the phone set up, a second hard-reset, plug-in SIM and SD cards again, restore, done.

Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.

hagba said:
Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.
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sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?

samsamuel said:
sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?
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Sure,since there is life after death why not start living now.