30 minutes ago I was at Phonehouse and got my Experia. It is the Swedish retail version, it came with the usual stuff but no case but with 4 GB micro sd card in the phone.
The memory seems to be 256 and not 384 as reported. The build qualtiy is outstanding, makes my Touch Pro and Touch Diamond feels very cheap and plastic.
And it for sure feels quicker than the TP when doing things, the panels are a bit slow but everything else is very fast. Installded the full Mobile shell 2.1 on it and it flies
nice
befor it comes up about firmware version, i think there will be soon an firmware update for the X1
easycure1974, please post a video recording with xperia camara
Does it really shoots good quality VGA 30fps video, please tell us
By the way can you take a photo to the xperia with open keyboard so we can see what are the differences in keys layout in your Swedish version.
Other question, what do you feel about typing in keyboard of xperia vs touch pro ?
More one: Does your xperia has a button like the old prototype in the image or doesn't like the new prototype ?
Sorry for a lot of questions, but we would be very happy to know this details.
No 384MB of RAM?
No black version of the phone WITH a black keyboard.
No directional arrows on the keyboard.
No accelerometer.
Shame on you SE!!!
Just one question: Did you get a screen protector?
Will upload some videos later
The keyboard is ok, not as good as the TP. But is has real keys for swedish letters wich the swedish TP don´t have wich makes it better for me though the "feel" of the keys are better on the TP.
No screen protector included
My TP is for sale so not hard to know wich I prefer
No button as on the old protype
do you have the black or the silver one?
The only questions I really have is about the touch screen. I read several reports that the touch screen on the X1 isn't as responsive as say a Diamond or a Touch Pro. HTC and SE decided while making the phone to use another type of screen. So, while obviously the UI is different on the TP and the X1, which one would you say works better, is more responsive, accurate etc?
easycure1974 said:
30 minutes ago I was at Phonehouse and got my Experia. It is the Swedish retail version, it came with the usual stuff but no case but with 4 GB micro sd card in the phone.
The memory seems to be 256 and not 384 as reported. The build qualtiy is outstanding, makes my Touch Pro and Touch Diamond feels very cheap and plastic.
And it for sure feels quicker than the TP when doing things, the panels are a bit slow but everything else is very fast. Installded the full Mobile shell 2.1 on it and it flies
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Lucky you, this is what I got today ......
Dear Customer,
We have just been informed that the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 has been delayed until week 44 (week commencing 27th Oct).
Our team of purchasing staff are doing everything possible to source the product as soon as possible and we will try our best to keep you informed of the expected delivery date as soon as we have one.
Once again, please accept our apologies and thank you for using eXpansys.
Regards
Order Processing
eXpansys
HTC Partner
Parrot Partner
band selection screen, please. thank you and congrats!
eric b
e-dub said:
band selection screen, please. thank you and congrats!
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Here's the options I have on my Swedish X1:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
and that's an x1i?
eric b
Yeah, it's an X1i
easycure1974 said:
30 minutes ago I was at Phonehouse and got my Experia. It is the Swedish retail version, it came with the usual stuff but no case but with 4 GB micro sd card in the phone.
The memory seems to be 256 and not 384 as reported. The build qualtiy is outstanding, makes my Touch Pro and Touch Diamond feels very cheap and plastic.
And it for sure feels quicker than the TP when doing things, the panels are a bit slow but everything else is very fast. Installded the full Mobile shell 2.1 on it and it flies
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Don't shoot me, but i think this is a prototype version. Check the data on the ROM: 8/29/08. To me that says Proto.
it's not a final product but a commercial version prototype that nearly final product...your xperia is the same as bengalboy's X1...with the same ROM version date...iam sure that a final product will be out in end of october...iam sorry if iam wrong but all we can just wait and see...
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Don't shoot me, but i think this is a prototype version. Check the data on the ROM: 8/29/08. To me that says Proto.
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My retail Swedish X1i also says ROM date: 08/29/08.
Does it have 256mb ram also?
Edit: My bad...got my months mixed up here... 8/29/08 does seem pretty early for a ROM date.
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remember they launched the X1 (shipping from the factory supposedly) on 8/30/08. So the rom date is in line with SE official launch of final retail devices.
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Wasn't it on 9/30/08?
They shipped from the factory on 9/30/08 your a month off.
Sorry to let you down guys but the X1 only has 256Mb of RAM
This is stated from SE themselves from today's chat over at mobil.se
The question (not all of it): Some claims that X1 has 256MB of RAM and according to Magnus (senior production manager) it's supposed to be delivered with 384MB.
The answer: X1 has 256MB of RAM. The real phones has IMEI# that begins with 35. The protos begins with 00.
Here's the full interview: http://www.mobil.se/artikel/lasarnas_fragor_och_svar_om_xperia_x1_mob_081007105841-130.html
And for you guys which I promised to ask questions... I did, but they never got answered
Related
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/
At last something I would consider as a Uni replacement
Mav
MUTINY!!!!
mavrik64 said:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/
At last something I would consider as a Uni replacement
Mav
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MUTINY!
The Universal is the undisputed windows mobile device champion of the world. It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
That's the Unis only competitor. So you can take that pathetic 2.8 inch screens to a different forum.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
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MUTINY!
The Universal is the undisputed windows mobile device champion of the world. It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
That's the Unis only competitor. So you can take that pathetic 2.8 inch screens to a different forum.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
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ooooooohhhhh!!!!!!
time for another change of underpants
Mav
No VGA
This would be truly awesome if only it had vga.
At the mo i have the universal with TOMTOM6 using a bluetooth receiver and i carry a 6mp camera with 3x optical zoom.
It's kinda a drag carrying 2/3 devices but I love the keyboard and screen of the uni
Another advantage of the uni is that the screen is protected by the lid when you have it closed which i like.
What will you say about E-TEN Glofiish X800, 'Double-Oh Seven'?
This is the only thing currently that probably could lure me away from the Universal...
Advantage is too heavy, others lack VGA or GPS...
The X800 does not have one thing you can think of, and that's Keyboard. Which I honestly to God do NOT need.
The lack of an SDHC interface on either device is enough for me to stick to my Universal.
My Universal hurts me when I look at other phones...
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My Universal hurts me when I look at other phones...
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Mine says I can look, but don't touch
Mav
nvatvani said:
The lack of an SDHC interface on either device is enough for me to stick to my Universal.
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Have you got a Second Edition Universal (or a Mars Special? )?
Because as far as I know, mine does NOT have SDHC interface, just plain SD, limited to 4GB capacity cards (up to 2GB without problems, with 4GB Camera App has problems).
It even buggered my (non-SDHC) 4GB card recently (one of WM6 editions did so), so now it's only 2GB and I've currently run out of options to restore its 4GB capacity...
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It's only competitor goes by the name of I-Mate Ultimate 7150.
http://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
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Oh my GOD that is a sweet looking device! I might worry a bit about the hinge though.
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Have you got a Second Edition Universal (or a Mars Special? )?
Because as far as I know, mine does NOT have SDHC interface, just plain SD, limited to 4GB capacity cards (up to 2GB without problems, with 4GB Camera App has problems).
It even buggered my (non-SDHC) 4GB card recently (one of WM6 editions did so), so now it's only 2GB and I've currently run out of options to restore its 4GB capacity...
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No ... I only have a 2GB SD card running as well on my Universal.
My point as to why the Kaiser is already redundant even before production is because the Kaiser is nothing more than a Universal+Navigator (or any other Bluetooth based GPS receiver).
The mini-SD interface on the Kaiser is the only key that made it redundant against the Universal.
Hence, the Kaiser is NOT an upgrade of the Universal, but instead a competitor. I would call it a "side-grade" as opposed to an "up-grade".
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No ... I only have a 2GB SD card running as well on my Universal.
My point as to why the Kaiser is already redundant even before production is because the Kaiser is nothing more than a Universal+Navigator (or any other Bluetooth based GPS receiver).
The mini-SD interface on the Kaiser is the only key that made it redundant against the Universal.
Hence, the Kaiser is NOT an upgrade of the Universal, but instead a competitor. I would call it a "side-grade" as opposed to an "up-grade".
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I re-read your first message. My bad, somehow thought you were saying that Universal does have SDHC Sorry!
Right, neither of Uni or Kaiser have it. But this honestly doesn't put me off too much, I don't do video on the devices.
One thing that Kaiser sorely misses: a VGA screen... Otherwise a near-perfect device... just 160 grams, GPS present, all latest connectivity present, v.good 2.8Mpix camera, unique design.
For those waiting for it, here I found that HTC have responded to somebody that they will release the Kaiser in late JULY, not October (October will be the time for HTC Shift).
So may be after all it's worth the wait for you and things are not so gloomy?
Kaiser's lack of VGA ruins the parade for me. This is why I'm looking towards a E-TEN Glofiish X800... also due in July.
In the whole flurry of devices coming each day - I'm yet to find a slick (Universal is the hefty 285 g...), well-connected, GPS-enabled device with a VGA screen...
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I re-read your first message. My bad, somehow thought you were saying that Universal does have SDHC Sorry!
Right, neither of Uni or Kaiser have it. But this honestly doesn't put me off too much, I don't do video on the devices.
One thing that Kaiser sorely misses: a VGA screen... Otherwise a near-perfect device... just 160 grams, GPS present, all latest connectivity present, v.good 2.8Mpix camera, unique design.
For those waiting for it, here I found that HTC have responded to somebody that they will release the Kaiser in late JULY, not October (October will be the time for HTC Shift).
So may be after all it's worth the wait for you and things are not so gloomy?
Kaiser's lack of VGA ruins the parade for me. This is why I'm looking towards a E-TEN Glofiish X800... also due in July.
In the whole flurry of devices coming each day - I'm yet to find a slick (Universal is the hefty 285 g...), well-connected, GPS-enabled device with a VGA screen...
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Wow ... that's quite a bit of "VGA" in one post.
Maybe you can try and explain to me why a VGA (640x480) resolution on a 3.6 inch screen device is actually practical.
I have used OzVGA on my Universal and then removed it just after 1 week because the high resolution demanded a higher precision touch-screen input from the stylus. You can forget about using your finger with OzVGA on VGA mode as opposed to the standard QVGA mode. I mean, in VGA mode I "lost" the ability to control scroll-bars, as well as cell/row selections from a table form or even when you want to do "hold down" selection (this is equivalent to the right-click in desktops) - using my finger ofcourse. Things were OK with the stylus.
With such a serious loss, the benefit of VGA is not actually worthy on the Universal because of its screen size.
If you are talking about the HTC Advantage, then VGA is really worthy because we are talking about a 5 inch screen here - and so the loss which the Universal suffers from is not applicable to the Advantage.
I agree, the only thing missing now is the VGA screen.
I am confused, is this device able to flip into laptop mode? From the other pictures, it seemed the keyboard pulls out from behind the screen, but then there is another picture showing the screen folded up on the keyboard.
Do you like the price?
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437
Mike
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-itttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt! Ridiculous!
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Do you like the price?
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437
Mike
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Amazing ..... that's just the kind of cash I can pull out of my asshole!
the price is gonna fall down in a few weeks.
That price is for a VERY NICE laptop. wheeeew!
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Amazing ..... that's just the kind of cash I can pull out of my asshole!
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If it's that easy, can I have some <grin>
They must have the decimal point in the wrong place.
Mav
Buyer beware I just received an email from a good friend of mine stating he had the opportunity to test the xperia and he states it is slower than the tytnII. This shall be interesting.
the x1's and it's rom is not released yet how it will perform in q4 when it does one can only guess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qe_ohf0Re4
in this clip it seem to run ok
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Buyer beware I just received an email from a good friend of mine stating he had the opportunity to test the xperia and he states it is slower than the tytnII. This shall be interesting.
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Well i wouldnt be surprised by your friends claim seeing as the unit isnt even in final production. One of my friends has played with a pre-production unit and said the same thing but also said that he is pretty damn sure that when the final retail unit is out...it will be perfectly fine.
many new PDA lack of video and 2d acceleration, if Sony taking seriously they should make open /sdk driver,
Can anybody say Samsung Omnia
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Well i wouldnt be surprised by your friends claim seeing as the unit isnt even in final production. One of my friends has played with a pre-production unit and said the same thing but also said that he is pretty damn sure that when the final retail unit is out...it will be perfectly fine.
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I finally just received confirmation that the device he messed around with was the pre-production unit as well. Sorry for posting anything misleading I often jump ahead of myself when I get excited.
redbandana said:
I finally just received confirmation that the device he messed around with was the pre-production unit as well. Sorry for posting anything misleading I often jump ahead of myself when I get excited.
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no worries ... we all do ...
samsung ...
Alternate Names: Samsung i900
Manufacturer: Samsung Inc.
Predecessor: Samsung i830
Operating System: Windows Mobile Professional 6.1
Screen Resolution: 240-by-400-Pixels WQGA Screen
Dimensions : 112 by 56.9 by 12.5
Processor Marwell 624 Mhz
Camera: 5 MP with geotaging, auto focus, image stabilizer, face detection etc etc...
GPS Included
User Interface TouchViz UI
Data HSDPA 7.2
with these specs it is definitely nothing to sneeze at ... especially 5mp camera but for me a hardware keyboard is a must ...
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Can anybody say Samsung Omnia
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I was waiting for the X1, but now, the omnia is looking very, very nice.. Would we have a forum on the Omnia?
www.gsmelite.com
Bronx31 said:
I was waiting for the X1, but now, the omnia is looking very, very nice.. Would we have a forum on the Omnia?
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X1 Is going to be a Iphone Killer. Period
Omnia will be featured on my site, coming soon
www.gsmelite.com
Its nothing misleading, its a fact, i have 2 of the units and the playback is more than slow, its slower than the the tytn II i can tell..maybe when the rom are out..
kepp you posted
bR
What application and what kind of media files did you use for playback?
If you also own a TyTN II, how is the 3G reception quality in comparison? Is X1 better, equal or worse?
Omnia is nothing special really, just yet another (W)QVGA device which is poor for web browsing and remote desktop use compared to (W)VGA devices. The screen is most important feature of a phone, because that's what you spend all your time looking at, and all your apps run in it!
The X1 is rendering everything very smoothly and fast. I've yet to see any lag on Tom Tom, spb Shell etc. And sl9 is right, it's the screen that counts, it's razor sharp, you wont be disappointed.
what about the extra resolution compared to standard vga on touch pro?
is the top bar bigger or something cause all the apps are a certain resolution its strange to me how they fit on the x1s screen
Most apps I've tried so far has somehow managed to run without any flaws on the WVGA-screen. It isn't stretched or anything.
The only thing I would add is that you can't use QVGA apps/skins very well. And when in Lanscape mode is where you'll notice that it doesn't quite fit right.
Take spb Shell for example, in landscape there is this empty area that appears between the main info and the 4 buttons. It's well done because it's not stretching out, just moved over. It doesn't look bad.
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The only thing I would add is that you can't use QVGA apps/skins very well. And when in Lanscape mode is where you'll notice that it doesn't quite fit right.
Take spb Shell for example, in landscape there is this empty area that appears between the main info and the 4 buttons. It's well done because it's not stretching out, just moved over. It doesn't look bad.
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Have you witnessed video lag?
Nope, nothing so far, but I haven't really installed that much stuff on it.
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Nope, nothing so far, but I haven't really installed that much stuff on it.
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Just try to watch a video
http://www.liv3.com/newsdesk_info.php/newsdesk_id/834
I don't know if anyone else have this video posted but take a look.
It is actually a good review - touchflo seems to have come on leaps and bounds which is still not evident on the diamond (inspite of the fact it has the same processor - more mem perhaps?).
The woman narrating did a decent job except she did make me laugh a few times unintentionally (she got a little too excited about the size of the screen )... Looking at the size of the device though - it is actually pretty big! The Samsung looks to be the optimal size for a smartphone... The HTC screen is superb though
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http://www.liv3.com/newsdesk_info.php/newsdesk_id/834
I don't know if anyone else have this video posted but take a look.
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Yeah, it`s kinda of old, here 3 some newer videos: http://www.xatakamovil.com/2008/10/04-htc-ensena-un-poco-mas-de-su-touch-hd
Site is in spanish but just click on the videos
Nice post! I really like the matte backside... Looks good and gives me one less side of the phone I need to clean all the time
I find this video pretty good:
HTC Touch HD
dudeldei said:
I find this video pretty good:
HTC Touch HD
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Its an awesome video for sure....
dudeldei said:
I find this video pretty good:
HTC Touch HD
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WOW! Very nice video indeed!
My Touch Pro´s TF3D is _almost_ as snappy as that one. Not much difference, hardly noticeable...
another nice video
this is the www.pda.pl video of the HD in HD!!!
...almost like having one...
http://www.vimeo.com/1938435?pg=embed&sec=1938435
Gawd damn it!
That looks good, that is very smooth and very nicely proportioned!
lets answer this battery question and get the phone on the shelves to be sold.
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It is actually a good review - touchflo seems to have come on leaps and bounds which is still not evident on the diamond (inspite of the fact it has the same processor - more mem perhaps?).
The woman narrating did a decent job except she did make me laugh a few times unintentionally (she got a little too excited about the size of the screen )... Looking at the size of the device though - it is actually pretty big! The Samsung looks to be the optimal size for a smartphone... The HTC screen is superb though
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The french accent.
I'm french and I prefer the original version with the man who hold the touch HD.
the one from vimeo is mind blowing... seems like htc finally decided to make their devices useful and finger-friendly.. touchflo works as it should ever had to.. simply can't wait!
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The french accent.
I'm french and I prefer the original version with the man who hold the touch HD.
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I'm English and a woman speaking French (or English with a French accent) does wonders for me!
After watching the latest video and esp. seeing TouchFlo performance and that it is not that much bigger than the Diamond I am edging towards the Blackstone over the Xperia X1 (probably be out before the Sony anyway).
Can anyone remember how long the Diamond took to reach the carriers after the official launch? Seeing as the Blackstone is launching on Nov 6th and Orange are more than likely to stock it I am just trying to figure out a timeline....
fuzzmo said:
I'm English and a woman speaking French (or English with a French accent) does wonders for me!
After watching the latest video and esp. seeing TouchFlo performance and that it is not that much bigger than the Diamond I am edging towards the Blackstone over the Xperia X1 (probably be out before the Sony anyway).
Can anyone remember how long the Diamond took to reach the carriers after the official launch? Seeing as the Blackstone is launching on Nov 6th and Orange are more than likely to stock it I am just trying to figure out a timeline....
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Problem i see with the X1 is it has a higher res display on virtually the same size screen as the Touch Pro making text even smaller. Now the Touch HD has a much larger screen and higher res thant he X1.
I have one on pre-order and no Windows Mobile device has excited me like this one, it looks fantastic, latest is it should be hitting early November, cannot wait for you guys to start making it work so much better as usual.
Chris
Does this device have a real GPS? Not just aGPS?
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Does this device have a real GPS? Not just aGPS?
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Are you kidding??
A-GPS is GPS!!! Its the normal GPS just enhanced by the ability to download sattelite position information over the net, which makes it much faster then the normal GPS. A stands for assisted. So it's calles A-GPS. Theres no reason you would want the "old" GPS.
Raziel1 is spot on AGPS has all the features of GPS with the additional feature of a quick fix using sat positions that can be downloaded OTA so is superior to GPS. The Touch HD will have AGPS
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It's fine as long as you can turn the a- off.
Here in Australia the cost of the net assistance is way beyond the value of it, so I only want the "old" GPS.
Kangburra said:
It's fine as long as you can turn the a- off.
Here in Australia the cost of the net assistance is way beyond the value of it, so I only want the "old" GPS.
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yes you can turn it off, and gps will still be working fine, don't worry.
Hi All,
A rather large review of the XPERIA X1 has been published at German Areamobile. Pretty much the first one to go into such depth as they did.
Although the review is originally written in German, thanks to Google all us non-German speaking/reading folks can have a go at it as well.
http://translate.google.com/transla...e.de/tests/Sony_Ericsson_Xperia_X1/teil_I.php
Major Cons:
1. Flash on the camera is not good.
2. Some panels can take upto 2 to 4 seconds to refresh/load up at times. (He goes on to say in the conclusion that the lag will most likely be improved in a firmware update later)
Some things to note:
1. The reviewer says: "To put it in a nutshell: Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 is faster than HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Touch Pro and Samsung i900 Omnia."
2. He goes on to say: "The touch screen also reacts more sensitive than those competitors." But it is behind Apple iPhone and also HTC Touch HD in terms of screen as well as speed.
Best Regards.
i would say that is true. In other words its the best win mobile phone atm
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i would say that is true. In other words its the best win mobile phone atm
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I'll probably have to agree with that.
I'm a little baffled how it manages to "outspeed" the Touch pro when they have the same processor and the Pro has more RAM. Is there some aspect of the hardware where they differ that I'm overlooking (did the 128MB of "extra RAM" for the graphics turn out true?)
Or is it more a matter of superior drivers? If so is the possibility of porting Xperia drivers to the Pro open? I'm still see-sawing between Xperia and Touch pro. My initial call was to take the "hit" in inferior screen for far superior Keyboard and TV-out and get a TP along with paying extra for an extended battery, but it seems the more I read the less clear it gets (especially when I see some of the issues the Touch Pro has on its board).
It seems every day I read something that changes my mind, lol.
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I'm a little baffled how it manages to "outspeed" the Touch pro when they have the same processor and the Pro has more RAM. Is there some aspect of the hardware where they differ that I'm overlooking (did the 128MB of "extra RAM" for the graphics turn out true?)
Or is it more a matter of superior drivers? If so is the possibility of porting Xperia drivers to the Pro open? I'm still see-sawing between Xperia and Touch pro. My initial call was to take the "hit" in inferior screen for far superior Keyboard and TV-out and get a TP along pay extra for an extended battery, but it seems the more I read the less clear it gets (especially when I see some of the issues the Touch Pro has on its board).
It seems every day I read something that changes my mind, lol.
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Buy my Touch Pro - got it back from repaircenter today and ouch - it feels cheap, slow and ugly compared to the Xperia after using the Xperia for some time now Was thinking of keeping it as substitute for my Iphone but I don´t even wanna use it anymore
easycure1974 said:
Buy my Touch Pro - got it back from repaircenter today and ouch - it feels cheap, slow and ugly compared to the Xperia after using the Xperia for some time now Was thinking of keeping it as substitute for my Iphone but I don´t even wanna use it anymore
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How much?
And yes, I only can say it again and again: Why did they do not write they played with a prototype? On the picture without battery one clearly can see (if you know how it is written and easier if you have seen it before): Prototype build PQ2 and the nect line: Prototype not for sale
I don't know how far the prototype reaches the end-build, but there is written prototype!
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How much?
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I am selling it for 4000:- Swedish kronor with car mount, 8 GB memorycard, two wallchargers and one carcharger Hardly used, had it two weeks untill it died and then it took four weeks to get it back from HTC - they really suck on support
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Well im pretty sure the graphics ram amount is true because it is faster then the touch pro without a doubt. Just starting up is faster then the touch pro. If not htc/sonyericsson just implemented the hardware better in the x1. Now im just waiting for a proper touchflo 3d release for the x1 then i wont even look at the htc phones for awhile
For how long has the german version been out?
p.s. and why is it without memory card?
The review is generally very positive for the Xperia.
But also a few things that are not quite right.
**"Aluminum Contruction". What? All specs call for Steel.
**"No 3D support". That's ridiculous. The Qualcomm chip has one of the best 2d/3d hardware/drivers support in the Industry. Check the video info in qualcomm's data sheet (bit longer to load, please wait....)
http://www.datasheetpro.com/817053_download_MSM7200_datasheet.html
**The panels takes up to 4secs. -- They have a proto with an old ROM. Latest videos feels smooth and quick.
**"Faster than Diamond & Pro." This one I believe them. Why? fine built vs cheap built. For example: same 3.2 mp camera but they explained why Xperia's is better. But definitely what can make a big difference is the better and faster graphics, so apps don't stay iddle while waiting for display to be done. They even compare with iPhone :
..."the highly sensitive touch screen can only be with the Apple iPhone 3G compare."
They praised the bigger keys and better layout of the keyboard. I like that.
I love the final sentence:
..."Thereafter, the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, without doubt to a new reference, to which all others must be measured."...
YEAH!!
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**"No 3D support". That's ridiculous. The Qualcomm chip has one of the best 2d/3d hardware/drivers support in the Industry. Check the video info in qualcomm's data sheet (bit longer to load, please wait....)
http://www.datasheetpro.com/817053_download_MSM7200_datasheet.html
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Are you kidding? And you trust all those BS on the paper? You better do some more research like http://www.htcclassaction.org/. So far, Qualcomm CPU is the worst (compare to Intel Xscale and Samsung) in any 2D/3D benchmark on all the pda I have.
Dissection - http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/22/video-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-gets-white-glove-dissection/
Wow!!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/htc-touch-pro2-is-awesome-in-ways-the-touch-pro-never-could-be/
Touch Pro 2 - Possible upgrade to HD? 5mm thicker 30g heavier, slide outkeyboard+3.6" VGA+more
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/overview.html
Diamond 2:
3.2" VGA etc
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchdiamond2/overview.html
Sadly. . . no 3.5 mm jack. Its meant for business people.
Also this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/htc-ceo-windows-mobile-6-5-to-be-announced-this-afternoon/
HOLY CRAP. . .
This isn't the new HD though, so maybe the HD is still going to be strong for a year(meaning no major updates to it, just internal hardware, like a US 3G antenna).
I dont think we will see an upgrade for the HD till later this year (if at all) but this in most peoples eyes will easily do for a HD with built in keyboard.
I dont think we will see an upgrade for the HD till later this year (if at all) but this in most peoples eyes will easily do for a HD with built in keyboard.
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Like I said .
This isn't the new HD though, so maybe the HD is still going to be strong for a year(meaning no major updates to it, just internal hardware, like a US 3G antenna).
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That new TPro is still sexy though , but they could have done with out the bezel and all the brushed aluminum(not saying that I don't like).
*sigh* it makes me confused to make a decision between Touch HD and Touch Pro2
Touch Pro2 contains lots of software impovements, espsecially a newer version TF3D,
however, the backplate which coloured in grey really... ugly ('cause I'm a grey-hater)
the Touch HD have a stylish design (in my opinion), but software are just out-dated
and there maybe not have any WM6.5 offical ROM provided, even an update of TF3D
Anyone can help me to make a choice?
My only concern is about the updating of software and any alternative colours of Touch Pro2
excellent birthday present....
I think my girlfriend will be pleased when i'll give her the diamond2 for her birthday (hoping it will be available by then)
And I will be able to fiddle with it as well
Woohoo!!
Grtz,
Degake
degake said:
And I will be able to fiddle with it as well
Woohoo!!
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What? The girlfriend? Sorry! couldn't resist.
ClownShoes said:
What? The girlfriend? Sorry! couldn't resist.
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I was expecting that someone would give this comment
And I truely/deeply hope I can fiddle with the phone and my girlfriend then (but best not both at the same time )
Grtz,
Degake
i just got the hd!!! they need to stop making phones so i stop wasting money!!!!!!!!!!
sunnymiu said:
*sigh* it makes me confused to make a decision between Touch HD and Touch Pro2
Touch Pro2 contains lots of software impovements, espsecially a newer version TF3D,
however, the backplate which coloured in grey really... ugly ('cause I'm a grey-hater)
the Touch HD have a stylish design (in my opinion), but software are just out-dated
and there maybe not have any WM6.5 offical ROM provided, even an update of TF3D
Anyone can help me to make a choice?
My only concern is about the updating of software and any alternative colours of Touch Pro2
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Apparently they will get a free upgrade, just ready fo you guys to cook a rom ;-)
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/16/windows_mobile_launch/
KennyDies said:
Apparently they will get a free upgrade, just ready fo you guys to cook a rom ;-)
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/16/windows_mobile_launch/
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The Touch Pro 2 is just too heavy for me, the HD is bad enough...same old story, to keyboard or not to keyboard. The WhiteStone is supposed to be the replacement for the HD. Who knows when it will come. Personally I don't care to upgrade my HD because with these new devices come new roms, YES!
sunnymiu said:
*sigh* it makes me confused to make a decision between Touch HD and Touch Pro2
Touch Pro2 contains lots of software impovements, espsecially a newer version TF3D,
however, the backplate which coloured in grey really... ugly ('cause I'm a grey-hater)
the Touch HD have a stylish design (in my opinion), but software are just out-dated
and there maybe not have any WM6.5 offical ROM provided, even an update of TF3D
Anyone can help me to make a choice?
My only concern is about the updating of software and any alternative colours of Touch Pro2
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i fully believe that the new TouchFLO will be available to the HD thanks to XDA-DEVELOPERS
and i can't wait, it seems to have some nice additions and tweaks
o and WinMo 6.5 will definitely be available for the HD thanks to XDA-DEVELOPERS (not an official upgrade, but fully awesome)
not impressed
I'm not impressed, i have had three HTC Phones and all have been underpowered due lack of chipset drivers, I will be probably looking towards the omnia HD next, unless HTC decide to shell out the cash for licences for drivers. it winds me up no end that. made I was fooled yet again by HTC into buying one of their half finished handsets.
Its good more XVGA's are coming out as it means more supported apps. Maybe a google version might help us crack the RGB666 issue.
Hardware Keyboard
I sincerely beleive that the HD (aka beast, aka black stone) is currently the ultimate device. Most people who long for a hardware keyboard must have never used the TouchPal. I have done continuous testing and TouchPal allows me and most other people to type considerable faster. I DO RECCOMEND IT for anyone who has not tried it.
I love what I'm seeing with the new ROMs out there and I'm not worried at all that the brilliant minds of this community will bring it to the world best device. Heck, after WM 6.1 was ported to the BlueAngel than everything is possible here!
I love my HD and these new devices can't even hold a candle to it. 3.8 WVGA display, FM Radio, 5MP camera with Autofocus, GPS, front full 2nd VGA camera, 7 hardware buttons, magnetic stylus, expandable memeory via Micro SD (now up to 32GB) all in a form factor the same size as the iPhone! (who can beat that?!)
Only thing the HD's missing is US 3G support, and Video Out, and a capacitve touchscreen.
Damn I love my HD!!!!!
The only way to make the HD better
The on
ahjdmarchi said:
i just got the hd!!! they need to stop making phones so i stop wasting money!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL yes many of us agree with you there!
I wonder if there's an exact launch date on this. I'm due for an upgrade soon.
Before getting the HD, I was a happy TyTN II user. Sure I wished for at least VGA and a larger screen but I was content (with the technology back then). But when the super sexy HD came out with WVGA and faster performance I was interested but the lack of keyboard held me back till I found out I could manipulate the screen to horizontal for any "serious typing" since the landscape keyboard was almost the same size in length as the physical keyboard. Now with FingerKeyboard (the black & red) I am completely satisfied. I gained light-weight and thin and able to type.
My next upgrade will be for windows 6.5 and the faster processor and video card!
I think my girlfriend will be pleased
I just pre-ordered the diamond2
expected delivery date: april 10th
I'm gonna be so lucky tonight
Grtz,
Degake