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Dont hold your breath i just wanted to remind everybody about what is going to happen on june 1st new sprint rom 3.39 dont hold your breathe cause you know sprint and there dates.... Edit: Forgot to say the official version not the test version. xD
On a Sunday?
rangie said:
On a Sunday?
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I doubt it it will happen on a sunday.... but it would have been nice to get WM 6.1 on 6/1...
I'll check it tomorrow and hopefully its there!!!
just checked now on HTC support page... is not there yet
I heard some rumors flying around of a 22nd release date. Maybe this thread can organize all of that.
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Yeah...we have all heard rumors and what not.....
Not sure there is anything we can organize or do...
Just wait until the 22nd and hope
My source at Verizon told me that via an internal email 2.0 is coming to the Eris at the end of January. They have not set a date for the release yet, but when they do, I will post an update for everyone.
acidbath5546 said:
Yeah...we have all heard rumors and what not.....
Not sure there is anything we can organize or do...
Just wait until the 22nd and hope
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Well I guess we just keep the thread open and see what happens.
I was given the Jan. 22nd date also from a Verizon Tech when I was having trouble authenticating my back in the beginning of December. She didn't say what the update would be though.
JTF2007 said:
I was given the Jan. 22nd date also from a Verizon Tech when I was having trouble authenticating my back in the beginning of December. She didn't say what the update would be though.
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The bugfix one. There is one scheduled for the 22nd, and it won't be 2.0/2.1.
ataranine said:
The bugfix one. There is one scheduled for the 22nd, and it won't be 2.0/2.1.
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Didn't they just do a bugfix a few days ago?
CPCookieMan said:
Didn't they just do a bugfix a few days ago?
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That was issued to fix one bug. The one where your phone locks up on you at the lockscreen and you have to pull the battery.
There's still one coming on the 22nd that fixes a lot of other bugs. It won't be 2.1.
ataranine said:
That was issued to fix one bug. The one where your phone locks up on you at the lockscreen and you have to pull the battery.
There's still one coming on the 22nd that fixes a lot of other bugs. It won't be 2.1.
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*sigh* I reject your reality and substitute my own.
CPCookieMan said:
*sigh* I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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Whatever you say.
ataranine said:
Whatever you say.
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It was a joke. You don't watch Mythbusters, obviously.
CPCookieMan said:
It was a joke. You don't watch Mythbusters, obviously.
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I haven't seen that show in a while. I love it though.
rooting 2.1 with sense on eris?
i hope i'm not the only one to think of this but:
if firmware 2.1 does come out on the 22nd of january, what does this mean to all the work done rooting firmware 1.5? because i'm pretty sure the problems with rooting the eris is not necessarily with fw1.5 but the sense UI thats layered on top of 1.5
even if 2.1 does come to the eris, it'll probably be a watered down version of fw2.1 because the hardware on the eris is not really optimized for 2.1 and it'll probably have a newer tweaked sense UI built upon the code from 1.5
i hope this is not a draw back but it's something to think about
It depends on the kind of attack we end up using. If we end up attacking the linux kernel directly, I doubt there will be time to plug the holes at this point. The bootloader / updater stuff, though, might be more risky, and I've been wondering about this for a while now. Guess we just have to wait and see which attacks come to fruition.
no kernel source code
i see what you're saying but htc hasn't released the source code for the kernel. i think thats what the senior members of this forum (acidbath5546, ataranine, rigmrt, etc.) are trying to get from htc through those emails. so the method of "attack" must be something else. unless of course those Mod edit: Employees at htc decide to allow us to use our devices the way we want
i'd love to contribute but i'm soo dame busy watching hulu, they've got some great stuff over there
Really, guy?
Either way, the way we're currently attacking it is like this: we know that a vulnerability was discovered on a certain date, and patched on a date after that. Fortunately, both of these dates are well after the date that the current version shipped, meaning that the target kernel must be vulnerable. Obviously this security flaw has been patched, and will do us no good in the future, but at least it's a start in our workflow.
yep
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i see what you're saying but htc hasn't released the source code for the kernel. i think thats what the senior members of this forum (acidbath5546, ataranine, rigmrt, etc.) are trying to get from htc through those emails. so the method of "attack" must be something else. unless of course those Mod edit: Employees at htc decide to allow us to use our devices the way we want
i'd love to contribute but i'm soo dame busy watching hulu, they've got some great stuff over there
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We have been trying...and Htc is sorta hearing us...
I just got word from someone at Engadget Mobile that Htc has heard us and seen the threads and emails..
And like they did on the Hero, they will release kernel code...its just a big machine over there...so we do owe them a bit of patience..
But it is good to know they heard..
Amazing what we can do as a community!
I will update as I hear more
moqadasi said:
i see what you're saying but htc hasn't released the source code for the kernel. i think thats what the senior members of this forum (acidbath5546, ataranine, rigmrt, etc.) are trying to get from htc through those emails. so the method of "attack" must be something else. unless of course those Mod edit: Employees at htc decide to allow us to use our devices the way we want
i'd love to contribute but i'm soo dame busy watching hulu, they've got some great stuff over there
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Watch the choice of words you use towards other people of any race/color/creed/nationality
If that is impossible for you, we can help you
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Watch the choice of words you use towards other people of any race/color/creed/nationality
If that is impossible for you, we can help you
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Wow.. epic.
New HTC email...
"bigdroid" over at http://androidforums.com/members/bigdroid.html
just got this email from htc.
The update is scheduled for the first quarter of this year. Now while I can not definitively say any dates, I would expect it sometime end of January to mid February. Hopefully, this helps you.
Regards,
HTC Support
Here it is! Middle of march! Where the f***k is an official update?
HTC is going to get shot because there's another rumor that it won't be out til mid April.
Surprised??? HTC doesn't have a very good track record for firmware releases.
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Why has this thread been started anyway???
Javierinnn said:
Why has this thread been started anyway???
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Agreed. Its not the middle of March, its 12th March. And in what HTC statement have they said a release will be delayed? Have patience...
sharpinho said:
Agreed. Its not the middle of March, its 12th March. And in what HTC statement have they said a release will be delayed? Have patience...
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Have patience 3/4 year!? "Its not the middle of March, its 12th" Omg! Sorry, the middle of the March is exactly 15,5th March. WTF! This thread has been started cos HTC is playing with us. Open your eyes people!
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Have patience 3/4 year!? "Its not the middle of March, its 12th" Omg! Sorry, the middle of the March is exactly 15,5th March. WTF! This thread has been started cos HTC is playing with us. Open your eyes people!
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So why don't you put a 2.1 ROM on your phone in the meantime? There are loads of good ROMs recently released that are based on the Eris or Legend dumps. There are also loads of guides on how to root and how to flash. Thats what I've done and I am satisfied.
you didn't actually expect it to come in Mid March did you?
I've learnt to take these things with a pinch of salt, HTC are too busy pushing out new phones to be bothered with us early HTC adopters.
Play with some 2.1 ROMs in the meantime, althought quite why we need so many is beyond me. Devs should combine features instead of competing with each other.
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So why don't you put a 2.1 ROM on your phone in the meantime? There are loads of good ROMs recently released that are based on the Eris or Legend dumps. There are also loads of guides on how to root and how to flash. Thats what I've done and I am satisfied.
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I have put a lot of 2.1 ROMs on my phone currently i am running VillainROM 3.3 and its very good.
But this is not a point of this thread. i am angry on htc and their rumors.
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Have patience 3/4 year!? "Its not the middle of March, its 12th" Omg! Sorry, the middle of the March is exactly 15,5th March. WTF! This thread has been started cos HTC is playing with us. Open your eyes people!
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Well yeah actually, the middle of March is the 15th!!! So... HTC have still time to release it, and if they do, then this is a wasted thread!
If you beleive that HTC are really 'playing' with you, then don't bother with your phone, sell it and buy something else... maybe one that never gets updated?!?
Relax and wait for it, I'm sure it will be worth it. There are plenty of 2.1 Roms to try already. We are all eager to see the official release... you're not alone.
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There are loads of good ROMs recently released that are based on the Eris or Legend dumps.
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These Roms have a diff bugs
http://www.htcheroblog.com/2010/03/...cHeroBlog+(HTC+Hero+Blog)&utm_content=Brizzly
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These Roms have a diff bugs
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I'm using behnaam's latest Legend ROM 1.3.1 and its ok for me at the moment - I haven't found any real bugs that stop me enjoying Android 2.1 until the official release.
But I'm afraid that no matter how much we complain here or to HTC, its not going to change anything. HTC will release the update when it is ready. If they feel a release needs to be delayed they will delay it. Threads like this will not change things.
Thread closed!
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http://www.htcheroblog.com/2010/03/...cHeroBlog+(HTC+Hero+Blog)&utm_content=Brizzly
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I think you've answered your own point here:
HTC Sweden that says the Android 2.1 release is not “set in stone” and expect it “around April”
HTC have never set a release date in stone, and so we'll have to wait for them. As I said, no matter how much we complain, it won't change things.
And yes, mods please close this thread, its pointless.
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I'm using behnaam's latest Legend ROM 1.3.1 and its ok for me at the moment - I haven't found any real bugs that stop me enjoying Android 2.1 until the official release.
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The low mic don't annoying you? After using GPS, device non sleep, not annoying you?
Anyway it's an offtop here...
does anyone know if live wallpapers will be included in the update for hero ? becuase to be perfectly honnest why is everyone so excited about 2.1 the changes are so insignificant i dont personally care the only real cool change would be live wallpapers for me i mean even the new legend port all it has is friend stream extra,home pinch and word search ?? other than than its more or less the same as a stock hero sense rom whats the big deal ???
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does anyone know if live wallpapers will be included in the update for hero ? becuase to be perfectly honnest why is everyone so excited about 2.1 the changes are so insignificant i dont personally care the only real cool change would be live wallpapers for me i mean even the new legend port all it has is friend stream extra,home pinch and word search ?? other than than its more or less the same as a stock hero sense rom whats the big deal ???
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Did you test the 2.1 roms that are out now? They are so much faster than stock 1.5, that's the main reason why I'm looking forward to the official release.
Calm down, they will release an update when finished. I don't think it's HTC who spread news on the Internet. It's people who spread rumors.
I really don't believe all the whining, what the hell?
1) It isn't even 'the middle' of March yet, if you're going to be day exact.
2) if someone _would_ say 'middle of march' I never _ever_ saw people starting to complain the moment the '15th' hit and the promised thing wasn't there. Must be something specific to Hero users I think.
3) The most official statement we ever got (and the only one, forgot all the 'february' crap rumours that started somewhere) said 'in march', not the middle. Regional Director HTC Benelux called it 'medio maart' in dutch, which translates to something like 'somewhere in march'.
I really can't believe the hate posting that starts _every_ _single_ _time_ again, primarily on XDA, but also on HTCPedia and MoDaCo. Do people have nothing better to do than wait for a software for their phones?!?
does anyone know when they gonna release the update ota.
sorry man, i haven't seen tmo release OTA updates for their WM devices. Most likely you'll have to download a RUU file and install it from pc.
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does anyone know when they gonna release the update ota.
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There's an article on tmonews.com saying it's expected to drop today (5/18), but xtenpeben is right, it'll be a PC-based installer not OTA.
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There's an article on tmonews.com saying it's expected to drop today (5/18), but xtenpeben is right, it'll be a PC-based installer not OTA.
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That update that the article was talking about was most likely the updated t-mo rom from this last week that's already been released.
Link is back up for the update for those that didn't get it the first go around.
Just remember to put "http" before the backslash since new members can't post links
//dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=leo
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That update that the article was talking about was most likely the updated t-mo rom from this last week that's already been released.
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Yes, it will probably just be the same one that was leaked last week...the article was just saying that Tmo would be "officially" releasing it today, and I've heard reports elsewhere that back that up.
ok,so is it worth updating to the new rom? i seened a lot of post from people talking about the problems with the new rom and rarely any positives so what do you guys think.
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ok,so is it worth updating to the new rom? i seened a lot of post from people talking about the problems with the new rom and rarely any positives so what do you guys think.
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I'm giving it another week or two at least before I make the move. I think there's a lot of people who actually waited for the official release, so we'll start getting more feedback about it soon. You can call it "crowdsourcing the testing phase"...I'm waiting 'till I see more data
sirphunkee,im doing the same,i didnt really go through any of the issues tbat people were listing besides the data connection drop/switch(praying i don't jinx it) so it wouldn't kill me to wait a little longer,thanks for the feedback
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sirphunkee,im doing the same,i didnt really go through any of the issues tbat people were listing besides the data connection drop/switch(praying i don't jinx it) so it wouldn't kill me to wait a little longer,thanks for the feedback
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Good idea And, if that's really the only issue you've had with the original ROM, you might be able to address it by flashing a new radio rather than a whole new ROM. I'm particularly waiting for that type of feedback on the new release...reception stability, etc.
I just took a look at Sprint's website and they now have EVO's shipping with 2.3, does this mean that we will be able to use the kernel that was used for those models to help out with developing roms with 2.3? Sorry if this was in the wrong place or if this information was known and not helpful.
provide a link & yes this is the wrong section.
http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/sho...0138&flow=AAL&planSKUId=&ptn=&tabId=dt_phones
it does say...
"Operating system
Ships with Android 2.3"
So theres an official 2.3 version of android for the Evo,just not for those of us who have already purchased our Evo's? How does that work?
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So theres an official 2.3 version of android for the Evo,just not for those of us who have already purchased our Evo's? How does that work?
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Agreed, I would love to know.....
This sounds odd. Maybe they updated the page too early? and this means GB Update soon?
Moved to General. I could have moved this to Q&A, but I think it is of enough interest to have it as a General topic.
I thought I was going nuts but right in their page it says ships with 2.3 smh... I hope it means something good for us
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Check this: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20055834-251.html?tag=mncol;1n
Says by the end of June...According to CNET > It's an old post from April, but it seems to be accurate after seeing the "Ships with 2.3" on the Device page...
That wouldn't make sense to have the update by the end of June if I can order a white one from Sprint.com today and have it to my house with 2.3 in two days...
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That wouldn't make sense to have the update by the end of June if I can order a white one from Sprint.com today and have it to my house with 2.3 in two days...
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I agree with you...I think it's time we all mass-calling the sprint reps ;-)
Maybe someone can get some scoop. Ill try.
i heard through the grapevine that we'll be getting 2.3 with sense 2.1...buuuut i take it all with a grain of salt, and i even work for sprint ( not on the wireless side though)
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i heard through the grapevine that we'll be getting 2.3 with sense 2.1...buuuut i take it all with a grain of salt, and i even work for sprint ( not on the wireless side though)
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Any dates?
If this is true then...
from my phone duh
Not shipping as of yesterday
I picked up a new EVO yesterday from the Local Best Buy here in Austin, Texas... 2.2
anxious to see it come about, though.
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I picked up a new EVO yesterday from the Local Best Buy here in Austin, Texas... 2.2
anxious to see it come about, though.
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Dang... you got hosed, I think I'd be taking that one back and making them give me an updated one. The gal I just talked to from Sprint had no clue that the page were all looking at had been updated so.... She did get in touch with tech support for me, but they werent aware of any ota either. She suggested contacting HTC.
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Dang... you got hosed, I think I'd be taking that one back and making them give me an updated one. The gal I just talked to from Sprint had no clue that the page were all looking at had been updated so.... She did get in touch with tech support for me, but they werent aware of any ota either. She suggested contacting HTC.
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i have been in contact with HTC about the Gingerbread update and a new version of Sense.... here is what i have gotten so far from the HTC rep......
here was his first reply "I understand that you need to know when the update to the EVO 4G will be available. At this time, a release date has not been announced yet for any of our updates to 2.3. We also don't have any information as to whether the EVO 4G will receive an updated version of Sense, either. For the latest news, please keep an eye on www.htc.com/us and www.twitter.com/htc."
then he sent this "I apologize, I realized that in my previous email my wording didn't confirm that the Evo will be receiving an update to Android 2.3. This follow up is just to confirm that it is a when, not an if; it has been confirmed that the device will be receiving an update."
then i pushed him a little harder for more info and he replied with this "Thank you for your response. As stated in my first email, we don't at this point in time have a release timeframe for Android 2.3 for the EVO (or any of our devices). We want to get the updates out as soon as possible, but will not do so until we have thoroughly tested them and they are approved as ready by both ourselves and Sprint. In regards to an update to the Sense UI, this is completely independent of the ROM version. There's been no word on if the EVO will receive an updated version of Sense or even if Sprint has shown an interest in having it put on the phone. Thus for the latest news, please keep an eye on www.htc.com/us and www.twitter.com/htc."
then he sent this (kind of randomly i dont know why, and ENDED the conversation) "Thank you again for your reply. I'm concerned that only the notification that you have a response is getting to you but not the message itself. In your last two emails you have inquired as to when the Evo will be updated to 2.3 and if it is going to receive an update to the Sense UI. However, I did supply the only available response to that inquiry (thus my concern that the messages are not making it to your inbox for whatever reason). We don't at this point in time have a release timeframe for Android 2.3 for the EVO (or any of our devices). We want to get the updates out as soon as possible, but will not do so until we have thoroughly tested them and they are approved as ready by both ourselves and Sprint. In regards to an update to the Sense UI, this is completely independent of the ROM version. There's been no word on if the EVO will receive an updated version of Sense or even if Sprint has shown an interest in having it put on the phone. Thus for the latest news, please keep an eye on www.htc.com/us and www.twitter.com/htc."
what do you guys think???
It would be refreshing to have a new version on Sense on our EVOs.
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It would be refreshing to have a new version on Sense on our EVOs.
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yes, it would. for being a flagship device, it is the only one still stuck on Sense 1.0
sense 2.? would be SUCH AN IMPROVEMENT AND MUCH NEEDED!!!!!!
Funny . . you visit the HTC site and look at tech specs for Evo and it says Android Gingerbread for OS. . .
EDIT: Sorry, looked at Sensation specs thinking it was Evo . .
Yeah that was the first place I checked after seeing it shipping with 2.3 on Sprint's website. You'd think they would communicate, at least a little
wow this is weird. Sprint has updated info to soon b4, but to have both sprint and htc update info to soon is to much of a coincidence. So i'm thinking the ota should be hitting in the next couple of days
EDIT: ok looked all over the HTC site and see nothing saying android 2.3/gingerbread. So where are u guys seeing 2.3 on htc.com?
I did however see that at htc.com it says the EVO has OS 2.1 and at shopamerica.htc.com it says 2.2