Wifi Question on 8125 - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

First let me say that I love this site. Just got my 8125 Yesterday and have since unlocked it and upgraded the rom to wm6 (have downloaded about 6 or so roms and still need to go through some, but loving M2D Brushed atm).
But I do have a question. If I am connected to wifi will the things that use data like internet and weather route through that as default first? I ask because I do not have unlimited data. Or is there some setting that I must do in order to make sure that it goes through wifi. I would like to make it so it will only use wifi for internet and weather and such and never connect through Edge or such.

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Dodging T-mobile's detection

Hey folks,
First up I know this is against my T'n'C's but we're talking hypothetically here ;-) oh yes and the fact that I was originally sold this contract for connecting my laptop and PSP to the internet even although it's expressly against my T'n'Cs so I don't feel wrong about doing it.
I'm trying to connect my laptop and PSP to the internet via my Vario II (aka Hermes) from t-mobile. Several concerns crop up
1. since i'm not on the pro package I'm not allowed to do this. Ergo t-mobile must not know I'm using a laptop.
How do they detect it?
I suspect VPN on the phone might get round it...although I've had difficulty configuring it.
Would opening a VPN from the laptop after connection decieve t-mobile?
As regards browsing I assume they're just taking the browser information that the laptop's browser gives them. I suppose you can spoof that somehow?
Lastly for the psp I simply want to stream media from my desktop to my psp when I'm on the move using 'pimpstreamer' - I doubt this protocol will be too noticable.
To effect this connection though I'd need to perform the 'wifi AP' hack I've seen talked about on the wiki....
Problem is I can't seem to find Internet Connection Sharing under programs....Is this something that can be tweaked to be invisable under the registry like the GPS module in the settings section?
Thanks again for your help folks!
If you have the unlimited data plan (only $20 a month), simply turn on Internet Sharing via your phone and select "Modem Link" or whatever it's called. Plug in and voila. The PSP, not so sure.
I have a T-Mobile contract also. You shouldnt worry too much. Even if they can detect it, they dont particularly care so long as you dont go over the 1GB fair usage limit. I connect my laptop all the time and have been doing so for the past year and a half. I even went as far as buying a datacard and using that and still no complaints.
Once, I downloaded 4GB of data via my contract when my internet connection at home went down. Not even a peep. Now I only use my phone for basic usage and connect whenever I cant find a free WIFI but I still use it.
In case youre wondering I have Flext 30 with Web n Walk but I only pay 18.75 GBP per month.
Dont worry and enjoy!
There's an awesome program in the development section that actually allows you to turn your hermes into a wifi hotspot. it connects to the internet through the phone's connection, then shares that connection over wifi. It works perfectly for me, although I rarely really need to use it. Very hand; I wish I could remember what it's called. Search "Wifi Sharing" in the development thread and you should find it.
Randvegeta said:
In case youre wondering I have Flext 30 with Web n Walk but I only pay 18.75 GBP per month.
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OT: WHAT!? How did you do that! I've got Flext 30 with WnW and I pay 32.50! And that is with a £5 discount!
Its against T-Mobile rules to use Internet Connection Sharing?
I got it because I signed up as a Curry's Employee and got a permanent lifetime discount of 50% off.
Yes it is againt their terms of service but as I said.. really doesnt matter.. just dont do anything that would make you jump out. Dont use more traffic than you should. Dont use it for VOIP and dont stream music/video to/from it.
I know what you are talking about because I also use it on my Hermes. It's called WMWifiRouter.
I do it all the time and I've never gotten in any trouble for it. Then again, T-Mo EDGE is usually too slow for me to want to use it on my laptop anyways.
I just use it when there is no WiFi available --- the edge is a bit slow, but still VERY usable. Never had an issue either.
I'm looking into that WMWifiRouter, looks cool as hell.
Thanks to everyone for their advice!
That program looks amazing...The website is currently down however...
Any chance someone could email a copy of the program to me at
verylastninja at yahoo dot co dot uk ? It sounds like exactly what I'm needing.
Also the cached page from google says I need ICS installed. 'Windows\IntShrui.exe' - I've checked and there's no such executable in my windows folder.
Does anyone know where I can get my hands on this exe? I'm about to try googling but am worried about getting the wrong version
Your sim works in a datacard? that's cool. How much do those things cost? Never even thought of trying it
Lastly I should say I'm running Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 (OS5.1.195 (build 14955.2.3.0).
I'm very curious how you access via a datacard as well.
Ah.... Sony GC79/GC89 is built for tmobile!
Although I guess you couldn't use your phone if your sim is in the datacard. Any workarounds to use both at the same time with same service plan, he he?
T-Mo charges $49.99 for unlimited internet, wow... but only $19.99 if it's unlimited on a phone, could consider adding a new "phone" to your account with unlimited internet and just pop the sim in the datacard and go.
Suppose there's not really a lot of difference between using your phone as a modem and using a datacard mind you. So unless they're pretty cheap I'd probably be best sticking with the varioII
Anyone know about the ICS bit? I've seen people reffer to it before. (I gave my windows mobile version etc on my earlier post btw) at first I thought it would be like the GPS settings in control pannel - hidden by some registry entry by t-mobile (and I can think why they would want to).
However that file reffered too Windows\IntShrui.exe
also what's AKU3? Sorry for being such a clueless n00b on this but I've got a little bit of a steep learning curve here!
Pretty pretty please?
Ok found ICSinstall.cab on here and installed it, soft reset, and attempted to install the latest version of the WMWifiRouter program (which I finally succeeded in sourcing!).
However I get a message telling me cryptically that it 'cannot be installed' after attempting install. I wonder if this is related to ICS...
I now have the InShrUI.exe file in /windows/ *but* attempting to run it gives:
'The file 'IntShrUI' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file.'
I reinstalled it over itself (i.e. ran the cab again) same error.
:-/
Was this the right file? I seem to remember it was dated 11th January 2008??
Thanks again for hte help folks!

upgrade to 6.5 no iternet wi fi

After beating myself to death, I finally managed to install Titan-WM6.5-21139-59-CR3 .
I really like the look and love the Weather, the windshield wiper is cute.
All seems well, But I can't connect to WiFi I keep getting unavailable...
And I have never connected to the internet before and just upped my data plan, but can't connect. IS this part of my upgrade ? do I need to set anything up ? called Verizon.. they put in ticket and will call me back ....
I didn't change radio.. I can make and receive calls and text ok...
I have installed no other programs...
Thanks
ReD
Is your ROM carrier specific? Sounds like you need a Verizon carrier cab to setup data connection.
Who built the rom? Some cooks change the carrier settings in their roms so that they do not have to worry about changing them later for lack of a data plan.
Try going to start-setting-connections-advanced-select networks
Pull vzw from the drop down box and select edit. Make sure the data network box is selected and also make sure that the number is "#777". Some cooks change the number to #778 or something that is one number off so they can not accidently rack up data charges.
fixxed
Finally got it going... seems it was a bad password...
Now I guess I can start to figure it all out. as I said I have tried for days to get 6.5 going, I have never flashed phone before and had lots of stutters on the way.
Now just to decide what I want and how to get it.
I love weather ( I am outdoor writer / fisherman )
I saw an animated weather panel with radar etc...
Would love to get it on my 6800 and I really don't like Internet explorer..
Thanks for the help guys...
ReD

Using TMO Android data package on the HD2? (Updated and Answered!)

Hey all, Well thought I would ask, havent tried it yet.. since I am too lazy to take my sim outta my G1 heh. I know when Tmobile changed me to the smartphone internet package, my G1 internet died. However I know people who have the Android package, can use settings like internet2.voicestream.com and get internet still.
So I am wondering does the HD2 work fully with the Android data package? Any features that wouldnt work? Ill prob try it myself over the weekend, but I plan to still use my G1 as my main device.
*Ok I just said hell with it, tried it myself. YES IT WORKS! So if you have a Android phone, keep using THAT data package. This way when you put your simcard in the HD2 you can use ALL features and YES in 3G! I was able to browse, mobitv, youtube, email, gmail push etc! All of it worked! So forget using the Smartphone package which WILL cut your G1 (Or similar) internet off. Keep the Android one and be able to use all internet no matter WHICH device you plug into! =D
Oh and the Wifi Router mode works too.
I'd be interested in this as well. Since I want to do some comparisons between the G1 and HD2.
i have my android internet on the Hd2 also didnt change anything and is running fine.
According to my plan I'm on Android (not sure why because it was the smartphone plan when I bought it) and it is working fine. This may just be a glitch in their system that is showing it that way since I'm still in the middle of a billing cycle that was mostly android.
Updated 1st post, It works. =D
i had to have them switch plans as android data did NOT work for my hd2. odd.
Well they had to switch me to the smart phone one when I upgraded, Then my G1 stopped, Then I called back to have them switch me back to the Android one, then today when I tried, yes it worked on my HD2, I activated my MobiTV, then tested everything, Now I put simcard back in my G1 (Since thats my main) but since Mobitv is activated, I can controll and use everything via Wifi. I plan to use my HD2 more as a pocket pc vs a phone.. Since my G1 can wifi tether to it too for on the go web. =D
Mysticales, I'm about try my Android plan with my HD2. I had them change it back earlier to get some data on my G1. If it works I won't have to ask them to change it back.
update: It works for me as well.

Couple of quick questions

Hey all,
I have a few quick questions, i have been using search but i havn't found my answers yet. I was wondering if there is a .cab for a barcode reader app like on android. Also is does anyone know if t-mobile USA has a fair use limit such as 5gb for data (i know verizon does). Also i'm having trouble connecting to anything online with my phone after updating to TMOUSA's new rom today.
check out omarket for a barcode reader, i use i-nigma, it does the job.
Tmo usa will definately have a "fair use" policy on data usage, it'l be in your contract or their site, the last time I checked in the UK it was only 1gb. They say everythings bigger in America though.......
Cant help you with your rom problem im afraid......
tmobilehas has disabled internet sharing capability.
try wmwifirouterapp you gotta pay but it'll work
sherlockpwnz said:
tmobilehas has disabled internet sharing capability.
try wmwifirouterapp you gotta pay but it'll work
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I think you mean that they didn't include an app for it? I've been using it since the HD2 came out (and before that I used it on my HD) and it works just fine. Pretty much all custom roms have it cooked in, but you can always just download and install wifirouter cab.
As for the limit, I believe it was 5gigs and has been changed to 10gigs (pretty sure it's one or the other). If you go over, I believe they just throttle you down but they don't cut you off and there's no overage charge.
no there is an internet sharing app tmobile is doing away with it. i bought my phone back in march and it had an internet sharing shortcut and worked up until this new update. it blocks communication to their network when the phone recognizes the phone is connected via usb
I'm not a fan of the WIFI app, i think WMWIFIROUTER is much better. It seems that the Wifi app on winmo just piggybacks on my wifi network at home and extends the range. I noticed that it still has the same hostname under "status" on my pc.

How can I use a smart phone on AT&T just on wifi

So I just picked up a couple of WM phones HTC743 and an AT&T Tilt 2.
I've been using one of the early windows smartphones for a number of years just for the the contact manager because it uses activesynch nicely with Outlook. Too damn small for any network access though.
I'm not terribly interested in a big data plan for a lot of internet access. I might pickup my email and surf a bit while I'm traveling though. I had wanted to use the wifi for that.
Th HTC s743 gave AT&T a bit of a startle because the didn't know what it was.
It's functioning but even though I have Data Conn. turned off it still manages to automatically turn on once in a while. I see daily very low volume charges even though everything says I'm accessing via WIFI.
I just plugged the simm into the Tilt 2 and though I haven't called AT&T as yet about this phone it did allow calls in and out but I can't seem to get the internet connection working even though wifi shows as being connected. It takes a long time for it to connect compared with the S743.
So ... is there a way to use either of these phones via wifi only?
Just turning off the Data Conn. on the s743 doesn't seem to completely work. The pre loaded GPS app appears to automatically turn Data Conn. back on. I know it does this if wifi & Data Conn. are both turned off.
A neat little AT&T billing trick?
From what I have read on here I think I maybe screwed on the TILT 2.
It also appears that until I register the Tilt 2 with AT&T my WIFI internet surfing just isn't going to work or do I have something else wrong?
I just have Data off, and no Data plan, but I'm using a android phone. I'm using the HTC Aria.
I was able to fix the S743 by just deleting the "APN"? in the configuration menu. I can always reload it quickly from AT&T if need be. But that phone also let's me pick between AT&T or Tmobile so I think it's more flexible to begin with. It's WM6.1 whereas the AT&T Tilt 2 is WM6.5 and there's no such configuration page where you can download the network configuration from AT&T. I've looked but maybe I missed something?
I also can't get this phone to work on WIFI either yet.
If you can, just change a character in the apn. This will stop it connecting, and it will let you easily switch it back on by changing it back if need be

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