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TomTom 5.10 on the magician ?

I'm currently using TomTom 5.00 on my Magician (1.12.550 Qtek ROM + 1.13 Radio) paired with a non-TomTom bluetooth GPS with success; but I would like to upgrade to 5.10 to be able to use CheckPOInt in order to show and warn me about all possible speedtraps.
However, as soon as I upgrade to TomTom 5.10 and I launch the application, my Magician turns itself off. Turning it on again results only in it shutting down instantly again. The only way to gain control again, is to perform a soft-reset.
I even tried several cr****d versions of the 5.10 upgrade, but all have the same effect
Oh, my 5.0 version is installed from the 5.0 BakoNL release + the POI patch, but I did try other installations of TomTom as well.
Could anyone help me out ?

Same problem here
I have exactly the same problem. Can someone help us. Pleeezzzzz...

Before I forget ... my reason to upgrade to the latest Qtek Rom in the first place was to get this update running. With my original I-mate 1.11 ROM I did have the same problems.
A collegue of mine has the same version (installed from the same media) running flawlessly on his HP 63xx series, so I think this is related to the Magician and not the software.

Hi,
What you can try is to download that upgrade but not install it yet.
Just unpack it on your computer and find the gps upgrade and the dll file that came with it. copy these files to your my documents on your pocketpc and then launch it (put the dll file in the windows folder first!!).
It works for me

Hi TomTom fellows,
I am currently running the newest 5.10 version on my Magician flawlessy. I have experienced a few problems in the past (expecially with version 5.00) but I found out they were related to the POIs. I have solved them by renaming the POI.DAT to something else. Sure, I missed the POIs, but I'd rather use my personal ones, so who cares.
Give it a try and let us know...
Silver.

5.0 did have some problems with POI, which could be solved by using an older version of the POI file. 5.10 has fixed this and now POI is working perfectly, as well as everything else. If it's not running on your Magician, most likely you have some other software obstructing it.

I don't dare to bet on it, but I'm quite sure I did run TomTom on a clean device with the same effect. Perhaps it is caused by my 5.00 TomTom release icw the Magician then ?
@raouljokhoe : how do you unpack the files out of the official TomTom upgrade? All I have is the setup.exe and a .apk file ?

TTN5
I'm in Oz.
I have TTN5.1 running with no problems at all on my magician.
Also just the 5.0 allows you to add camera POI's and have an alert for any POI catagory you'd like.

I tried TomTom 5.10, it runs perfectly well. But it does not recognize "Major Roads of Europe" Map. So, how is yours?
I solved the problem by replacing the .exe file (only) using the old version 5.00.
And it is now working flawlessly on my 1.01 ROM (yeah!!).
Note: I experienced a lot of problem with 5.00, but then I got a new .exe from my friend, still version 5.00 but it works perfectly.

TomTom has one big flaw: If the currentmap.dat file is not in \my docs\tomtom\ then things dont work properly. I run 5.10 on my magician with no problems but everytime i hardreset i need to replace the currentmap.dat file. The file basically just says where the current map folder is.
My file says:
& \Storage Card\Great_Britian_Plus-Map\
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Trust me, sooooooo many problems get fixed by adding that file

Re: TTN5
Esra said:
I'm in Oz.
Also just the 5.0 allows you to add camera POI's and have an alert for any POI catagory you'd like.
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In Oz ?
I know that just the 5.0 can warn upcoming POI's, but it is based in number of meters before the POI instead of number of seconds. Also there is no indication when you are speeding. CheckPOInt does all that ...
gogol said:
I tried TomTom 5.10, it runs perfectly well. But it does not recognize "Major Roads of Europe" Map. So, how is yours?
I solved the problem by replacing the .exe file (only) using the old version 5.00.
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I don't use the MRoE honestly. I am using one of the Plus maps ... so I could not tell you about the Major Roads ...
nedge2k said:
TomTom has one big flaw: If the currentmap.dat file is not in \my docs\tomtom\ then things dont work properly. I run 5.10 on my magician with no problems but everytime i hardreset i need to replace the currentmap.dat file. The file basically just says where the current map folder is.
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That isn't the problem ... The file is there and correct. At startup of 5.10 I even have just the time to see part of the map before the PDA shuts itrself down. The 5.0 version does run well, with POI's and all.
Apparently I'm not the only one with this problem ... and others run TT5.1 flawlessy on their device
:?:

At last someone having my problem
I have been getting this very problem too. Searched everywhere to find an answer at last I have found other people who have my problem!
My story so far....
I started with the cracked version originally of TT5.0 which worked ok and I didnt need to activate the maps. I then downloaded the 5.1 update from TT website, I then installed it.
I succesfully launched TT5.1 but it wanted me to activate the maps. So I downloaded the 5.1 crack using p2p software and installed it. this involves switching the pukka tomtom.exe file on your ppc for the cracked one. Soon as i launched the crack version I started getting these crashes on launch that shut down the magician.
So after loads of reinstalls/hard resets I finally decided to go and buy the original discs. So after recieving the discs I hard reset my device (again) and started a fresh brimming with confidence that my problem would be cured. But to no avail using the pukka route with official activation codes and the official 5.1 update it still crashes.
So my theory is given that other users use 5.1 ok that the 5.1 crack is the devil in all this, as its use somehow screws with your ROM rendering it useless to any further reinstalls of the proper the 5.1 tomtom software. And the only way forward is to reflash your rom So this I am now planning to do as one last attemt to get it working and to gain the big storage facilty.
As I now have properly registered software I now put my self in touch with tomtom suport to see if they had any ideas on what the problem was. (obviously neglecting to mention I originally used the crack version :wink: )
Here is the support thread so far
Customer 03/10/2005 11.36 AM
I have just bought your tomtom navigator 5 software, I have installed the version 5 updated it to 5.1 and installed the UK maps. The next step I loaded TomTom from the the today screen to start the set up process but the screen just goes black and crashes mt PDA. What is causing this It's brand new it should just work out of the box and your site says it supports my device?
Customer 03/10/2005 06.06 PM
I have since uninstalled all the software, deleted bad registry keys, and reinstalled, this time I just installed v5.0 which started up and allowed me to activate the maps. So then I installed the 5.1 update and it did the same as before and kept crashing my MDA when youlaunch tomtom. The screen fades to black and shuts the unit off. When you press the power again it comes on shows the nav screen breifly then powers off again. Very frustrating! Please help I so need this to work!
Customer 03/10/2005 09.17 PM
OK I rang your support line tonight, as this system seems slow. They had me hard reset my device and reinstall just tomtom navigator 5.0, which does work. The guy stated that there was no need for me to update to 5.1 as there are no known issues with the MDA compact. But I am unhappy about this situation as I wanted to use either checkpoint or poi warner with the tomtom software in order to give me speed camera alerts. Both these peices of software state they require version 5.1 or higher.
from checkpoint site:
CheckPOInt 5 was created with use of the software development kit (SDK) for TTN 5, and apparently it is required to upgrade TomTom Navigator to version 5.1 before applications created with this SDK can run smoothly.)
I await your resonse thx
J
TOMTOM Response 05/10/2005 04.31 PM
Thank you for your email.
We would first like to apologize for the late response of this email. We hope that it has not inconvenienced you.
Your PDA model is not compatible with nor meant to be used with the 5.1 update. All TomTom products and software run on all versions of Navigator 5. As we do not support third party programs, please contact the manufacturer of CheckPOint.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
Customer 05/10/2005 04.49 PM
Thank you for you response
I would like to request that this information be made available with the 5.1 download, so far I have wasted nearly 4 days in time trying to get the update to work. A simple statement on your site about incompatibility of the 5.1 update with the MDA compact would have saved me hours of time and will also help future users of the mda compact & tomtom not go through the same thing as me.
I have to say I find it the most bizzare situation that you provide a software update which cant be used with by some models and you don't state this fact on your website.
>>>As we do not support third party programs, please contact the manufacturer of CheckPOint.
No but you provide the SDK telling developers only to write for 5.1!!! If this is the case with certain models you should tell them to write for 5.0. Third party software is all part and parcel of wanting to buy your software had known I would have skirted passed it.
regards
J
TOMTOM Response 05/10/2005 05.05 PM
Thank you for your email.
Before downloading an update, there in an information page telling who should download the update and what the update fixes. When your model number or issue is not listed, it shouldnt be downloaded.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
Customer 05/10/2005 09.09 PM
Then your site is confusing
It states it is for Pocket PC, my MDA Compact is a pocket PC running Windows Mobile 2003SE
from your site:
This update can ONLY be used when you have already installed a registered version of TomTom NAVIGATOR 5 on your Pocket PC or if you are using a HP iPAQ HW 6510/6515.
fixes:
Improved phone functionality for your Pocket PC
Easier installation of 3rd party (non-TomTom) GPS devices
Improved display on devices which have a VGA display (640 x 480 pixels)
I am using both phone and third party GPS system so this update indicates to me it's for my device!
Please clarify the situation
regards
J
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(I know this post will probably attract some anti piracy responses, but hey I do buy some software, and I mainly d/l it for free to test the software first).

So to establish whether this problem is related to cracked versions of the TOMTOM 5.1 update or not....
Are you using genuine or cracked versions successfully or unsuccessfully on your Magician?

Hello Jimmy ...
You sure went trough a lot of trough a lot of trouble for contacting TomTom support ! I was honestly thinking about buying an official version myself, but apparently that does not seem to be a good solution either then ... since even with the official support and license, they just wimp away any questions regarding the MDA
I'm afraid I will go back to my Alturion installation if I cannot get this issue sorted (yes, it's an oficial one, really ...), although I do prefer TomTom on the PDA
Unless of course a 5.2 release might solve our problems of course !
I seriously doubt the 5.1 cracked version messing up the ROM honestly .... Why only on the MDA then and not on any other PDA make ?
Cheers !

I am using TT5.0 instead of 5.1 because I need to load TT 2004 USA map. I do have TT5 USA map but found 2004 map works much better in California. (TT5 USA map only display INCORRECT exit number instead of exit street name). So far so good until the day I need to search for "Wal-mart" and it crash. Works fine now after I overwrite the TT 2004 USA POI file w/ TT5 USA POI file. I guess it has something to do w/ the POI file format.

I'm getting this same problem with a fresh 5.0 install. Has anyone found a way around this. Also if anyone has a working version of 5.0 on an MDA Compact could they let me have a file list of what is on the SD card as I'm wondering if there is any third party add ons on it.

Well, I gave it another try doing a hard reset but to no avail.
Since others are running 5.10 without any problems apparently, this must have someting to do with either the rom version or the ext_rom contents.
What versions are you using and is the 5.10 upgrade working for you ?
Me, I run the Qtek WWE_11200_550_11200 + Radio upgrade 1.13 on what used to be an Imate Jam. All roms were taken from the XDA-developpers ftp.

@job : I PM'ed you so we could try to find out what is wrong

Hi,
until now i had no problems using TT5.0 on my Magician (original MDAc german).
Yesterday I upgraded to the new 1.13.01 ROM (org T-Mobile Germany). After upgrading to the new ROM-Version and installing TT5.0 it was not starting anymore. So I decided upgrading to TT5.1, but the downloaded upgrade hangs while installing on the device. The only help is a Soft-Reset.
I think, there are problems with the new ROM. Has anyone same problems or a solution for that problem.
BugzBunny

Looks like Extended ROM problems. Try a hard reset and then soft reset the device, just as the 3 seconds countdown appears. Install TomTom and see if it runs. If it does, try installing the prgs of the Ext ROM one by one, until TT fails again. Then you will know the culprit.

TT 5.2 WM5

http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?Language=1&FID=3361

Interesting that it says:
"TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices. See the compatibility list for more information."
And when you go to the list there are no WM5 devices in there :shock:

...but it works :wink:

btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all

mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
Still waiting for an official (tested and accepted ) update before I upgrade my legit v3 to a legit v5. (Currently running a cracked version cos I'm not happy that TT5 is working properly on WM5, or even that TT5 is the best solution any more :roll: )

mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you can do it on the storage card: "My Device\Storage Card\Voices"; or does it have to be on the "PPC: My Device\Voices" ???

SiliconS said:
Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
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you need to have the original activation code provided by TT

BillB said:
Does that mean you can do it on the storage card: "My Device\Storage Card\Voices"; or does it have to be on the "PPC: My Device\Voices" ???
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I have it on \Voices ...dunno if it works on the SD too

So what is different about this version. Or should I say what is fixed in this version? Does it keep the screen in the current screen mode (i.e. VGA or does it reset the screen to it's own bidged semi VGA size).

SiliconS said:
mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
Still waiting for an official (tested and accepted ) update before I upgrade my legit v3 to a legit v5. (Currently running a cracked version cos I'm not happy that TT5 is working properly on WM5, or even that TT5 is the best solution any more :roll: )
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I've installed it twice now and when I go to TomTom Version it still says its version 5.1 anyone else with the same problem, or does someone know something I dont like you have to remove all of tomtom first ????

CarlnAdele said:
I've installed it twice now and when I go to TomTom Version it still says its version 5.1 anyone else with the same problem, or does someone know something I dont like you have to remove all of tomtom first ????
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version 5.210 (5430) ...but i did a clean install

OK this is strange and i need some help....
i installed the app in my sd card...
i made the "Voices" folder in the root of the ppc...
and i runed the app BUT (this is the strange part)...
i am still in the preferences screen as after i press the screen to choose a preference i can only get to the next step by pressing the button with the red telephone and then maximizing the app again from spb. the moment i press the red button i can see tom tom proceeing to the next screen and then the app minimizes.
any ideas on this?
thanx

So it's not all good news then. Does this mean that TomTom's 5.2 release isn't quite ready for WM5 after all? Can anybody comment on differences in performance between 5.1 and 5.2? Does the screen still redraw slowly?

well it might be my mistake or something but...
so what about the rest of you? has anybody tested it? how did you installed it?

I did a full install on to the Exec, direct from the TT site download. I had hard reset the phone first, yes you do need to add a voices folder in the root of the SD card, but otherwise it all works fine - you can use the data.chk file from 5,1 if you like the real voice warnings, the only thing you can't use is the POIExtend software (yet) Mike

Downloaded the zip file from TT site unzipped it and ran it, it uninstalled Ver 5.1 for me the reinstalled 5.2 somewhere along the way it requested a soft boot.
It all appears to function. However I have not had chance to test it in anger.

I previously had TTNav 5.1 (plus maps, voices, POIs) installed and running succesfully from SD-card.
Installed v.5.21 update, which said it would remove the previous version whilst installing and gave me a choice of location for only one of the .CABs. Afterwards I discovered 4MB of main/device storage had gone missing, so checked and found that the new version had now installed itself into device storage and the old version 5.1 was still in SD-Card. Upon checking the registry I found all the entries still pointed to the old version in SD-card. Tried installing again, same result. Uninstalled and installed again, same result.
Decided "what the hell", moved all the new version files to the SD-card locations, modified the program menu shortcut to start TTN from SD-card, removed their "stupid" Today-plug-in, and fired it up. Now working again from SD-card, and have 4MB of device storage back!
As mentioned before, I feel TomTom have totally lost their way roll with PDA navigation. TTNav5 is just a bodge on their stand-alone TT-Go product code to get it more or less to run on a PDA.

I think it's been observed elsewhere that Tomtom seem to be writing a standard application that will work across all their supported platforms. This is cheaper and easier to support but is frustrating for power users.
I am now using Navigator 5 in addition to Mapopolis, and I find the delay in connecting to my Bluetooth GPS (GlobalSat BT338) very annoying. There is nowhere to specify baud rate and I am sure that Tomtom every time is scanning the range to find the GPS, it takes so long.
This makes TT fairly idiot-proof and user-friendly, but at the expense of the more technically minded. Of course, supporting technical options ties it closer to the particular operating system, which is probably what they are trying to avoid doing...

Hi all,..
when I use the update from the TT website, and installed it is asks vor an registration code, the activation code...
does anyone alse have this problem?
a

HTC X TASKMANAGER HERE by faria

updated
thanks poof.
and here its is
remove the the zip extencion before installation
install and rebbot reboot.
to configure go to
start/settings system/
enjoy
regards faria

cool, we're just talking about this at TreoCentral.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to do jack on the Treo 700wx regardless of the settings I chose. I soft-reset the device and even installed/uninstalled.
hmph.

tried it on my apache, I get the app. but it doesnt appear to close anything.... may I ask what device this is coming off of?
~mike

did not close app on my universal

poussin69 said:
did not close app on my universal
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Yes...me too on aku3.2 beta..
any clue...?

didnt work on my jasjam either

same thing with my TnTY (fr rom)

people try again it has been updated

may I ask what ROM did this come out of?? also the updated one is working great! also what was the task manager program then? I see the app has been renamed and the icon is different..
Thx,
Mike

yesss....congrats runs very well thanx

Lvballer06 said:
may I ask what ROM did this come out of?? also the updated one is working great! also what was the task manager program then? I see the app has been renamed and the icon is different..
Thx,
Mike
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mine come from a prophet rom. it worked fine in the wizard,the updated one i have updated the cab with some missing files from poof cab.
see the pictures same version diferent icon

faria said:
mine come from a prophet rom. it worked fine in the wizard,the updated one i have updated the cab with some missing files from poof cab.
see the pictures same version diferent icon
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thanks I was just wondering.
~Mike

When running the cab it gives me;
Failed to install aria htc x.cab
This is on Prophet (Qtek S200) Anyone else seen this error?
kind regards
marl
Edit, downloaded again, works fine now, thx for the cab

Any ideas if this is possible to be mapped to a hard button.....like the ok button on the 750v?
Thanks

I have tried three times on my TyTn but every time the cab file fails to install. I downloaded the zip file, renamed it and put in in my SD card. When installing I got the message Cound not install etc.
Any help available?

I'd suggest you to have a look to the device and try to find out if there is no left files from the former installation.
I've struggled time ago with such Resco things. Maybe it's the same issue.

It's only for Pocket PC PE, or it be useful for WM 5.0 Smartphone Edition?
I have a Qtek 8310. ¿Can I use this taskmanager?
Thanks

phone freezes after i install htc home customizer

Phone freezes after i instal htc home customizer and hhc..
i upgraded to win 6.1 through verizon..
is there a new version for win mobile 6.1?

if ur radio is upgraded to 3.4XX then go with DCD. do a hard reset and get the new version....like 3.26 or whatever. you may not get all the fancy verizon crap but in the end it slows ur XV down. besides i got Navigon Mobile Navigator running on mine with 7 sec startup. forget all that VZW Navi ****. Oh and thats with no adapter "preload" program either.

i got radio 3.37.75
and rom 3.57.605.1

There is a problem with the previous version of HTC Home Cust.. and 6.1. All you need to do is install HHC Home Customizer first and run it. it will unpack the stuff and then start and say something like it assumes you have the right version and you hit ok and then it will ask if you want to update to the newest version. Hit yes and you will download and install the new version and it will work fine from there. Just install the actual customizer and only it and run it to update. It should work after that just fine. I had to figure this out on my own it was a huge pain. Hope it helps. Any questions just ask.

i went to pocket emu..but which htc do i download the hermes?

igo8/2006 doesn't work

hello,
can anyone tell me hoe to get igo8 to work ?
i've installed it, but it doesn't start ..
i've tried igo2006 but it doesn't work aswell..
i can't get them to start at all...
thanks

...
hello, in my jade igo 2008 perfectly. Have you configured it?.

i don't know how..
i've copied the 2277 and igo folders to my card, run the autorun, and copied the crack to the jade..
what else must i do ?
thanks.

You have to try more versions, for me running 8.0.0.49545 and 8.3.1.xxxxx, but I have problem with fixing satellites, it is periodically fixed and unfixed in 1 sec period... Only sometimes fixed ok :-(

i don't think it's a version problem, because igo 2006 does the same thing..
i don't know how to configure them...
can anyone tell me what i have to do after i've installed the programs ?

Igo2006 nor running under wm6.1, some patch exists, but I didn't try them. I never install Igo, only copy it to sd card, you have check the right path in sys.txt
[folders]
app="Internal Storage/iGO8"

i've tried that, still doesn't work..

Victor, what version of iGO8 are you trying to run. Version 8.0.0.49545 is definately working on my Jade with only one major caveat: switching off the display (by pressing the top button) causes communication failure with the GPS and requires a restart of iGO8 in order to rediscover the GPS.

thanx a lot for your help..
i finally managed to crack it , and it works just fine..

@victorpagu May be you had problems with licenses?

Maybe you should read more than 5 words... And with this patch running only Igo2006+

Work! Attached the pictures.

I got igo8 to work..
I don't know what the problem was..Probably the license or the data archive..
Thanks for your help !

And you sure it is Igo2006, not 2006+? I test patched Igo and working, but it is latest Igo 2006+ with new developed patch for Diamond due to wm6.1!

Alekss_UH, how did you solve fix and an unfix problem with GPS each second?
I have TT v7.9 and iGO 8.3.1.57021 and both have the same problem with GPS in my JADE.
Don't know how to solve...