Since some companies charge insane amounts for GRPS and not minutes, is it possible to work around this by using dialup PPP over the cellular (not GRPS) modem in the connections area?
YES, BUT I THINK DEPENDING ON WHICH SERVICE U USE; THEY WILL STILL CHARGE U FOR THE AMOUNTS OF DATA TRAVELING BAK N FORTH
The various carriers in Australia (except Virgin, which don't support any data at all yet) all charge data calls over GSM as standard peak/off peak calls, just like voice.
So to answer your question, here in Oz I'll often switch back to Analogue CSD line type and dial into my office via our RAS server (ie. use the GSM line) if I plan to browse / download large content, because the peak call works out cheaper than would downloading the data via GPRS (albeit significantly slower!).
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Thanks for the responses
Here's what I've decided to do (USA). I am keeping my AT&T GSM plan for use with voice only. Don't let them scam you into buying a data plan. T-Mobile offers an unlimited internet plan at about 50% of what AT&T and Cingular offer. Once mobileplace lets me know if they have planned for a better dual sim solution than the ghost or cutting, I will switch between sims based on my needs at the time.
CSD Connection Is Beautiful!
JUICEe said:
YES, BUT I THINK DEPENDING ON WHICH SERVICE U USE; THEY WILL STILL CHARGE U FOR THE AMOUNTS OF DATA TRAVELING BAK N FORTH
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I presume otherwise, i.e. most service providers charge air time as if it were a voice call. This is the case with T-Mobile US at least. Nights and weekends are free data time - nice! 9kbps is not too bad to surf the net without graphics.
I posted detailed set-up in thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4723
I am travelling to the USA on business. I currently have an O2 contract. Will my current GPRS settings work over there?
On another point (nothing to do with XDAII), if I want to use a hotel phone line is there a way of finding a local number to dial for internet access?
Could some kind soul please send me the WAP and Internet setting for the Rogers AT&T service in Canada?
Thanks very much,
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Could some kind soul please send me the WAP and Internet setting for the Rogers AT&T service in Canada?
Thanks very much,
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Here you go.
internet.com
wapuser1
wap
Good luck.
Do not forget, that you have to subscribe to data services (it will not work with WAP)
thanks
Okay thanks everyone.
I've got the settings as:
Cellular line (GPRS)
Access point name: internet.com
user name: wapuser1
password: wap
domain: (blank)
under advanced: Use server-assigned IP address, software compression off, IP header compression off. Server tab: use server-assigned addresses
Under GPRS settings i have
CHAP authentication (note i also tried PAP without sucess); and class 10 (which shouldn't matter).
Now mys CSD line type settings (not sure how much this matters because I don't know what CSD is):
Data rate: 9600 (v.32)
Connection element: non-transparent
Any other settings that might be configured wrong?
As for having to have a WAP account - my understanding is that all phone accounts are on a pay-per-use basis unless a specific plan is purchased.
Thanks again everyone,
Sean
oh.
I see what you mean now - sorry, I read it wrong the first time. I have to subscribe to a data service plan - the phone will not do WAP on its own. Do you know why that is? The cost on Rogers is very high for a data plan while it is much more reasonable for WAP phones. I really only need the WAP - not the rest of the internet. Is there no way of getting just WAP?
YES, we all now about Rogers prices
I actually switched to Fido, but still maintaining Rogers account for other purposes.
I am not sure about using I-Mate with WAP, but I think by using special WAP browser it should be possible. Sorry cannot be more help for you.
ARRRGGGGHHHHH
I've just spent a ton of time researching whether it was possible to use my XDAII to dial-in to my work. I mean the phone is a modem/phone/computer so it has all the hardware present.... At work there is a RAS that would allow me to pick-up my e-mail and surf the internet. I do it with my laptop connected through a land-line all the time. while connecting over a GSM line would be slower than a GPRS connection it would be a heck-of-a-lot cheaper and it would be more mobile than my laptop and no need for a landline!!! Anyway, turns out that beautiful ROGERS AT&T service does not allow CSD on their system (if anyone knows a way around this please please please share it with me!!). I guess, the idea is to force people to subscribe to their expensive GPRS data plans.
i would love to get all I can out of my XDAII but I'm not sure at this point if I can justify the extra $25 month for 3mb of data with Rogers or the $25 month for the 5mb of data from FIDO... both of these providers are crazy expensive (plus, add the cost of the $6.95/mth access fee I'd be required to pay for FIDO). Now, if I had a normal phone which only did WAP then it would cost me about $7 for 1mb - not a lot of data but a more reasonable rate.
So, that's where I'm at.... if anyone out there knows of a good plan for data usage - or better yet a way to do CSD on Rogers please let me know. Noviur, or anyone, if you know of a WAP browser program that would allow me to use WAP on Rogers please point me in that direction.
Thanks,
Sean
PS. Just a little disappointed that after all the money spent on this beautifull phone I'm now limited in its use so that Rogers can continue to make more money on me besides what they make for my high-speed internet, digital cable and 2 mobile phone plans.
you can not bit 50CAD unlimited from Fido. In states it is the same amount of money, may be jsut little bit less and only from T-Mobile (based on references from my friends )
5Mb will not make you happy, sorry to tell you... my avarage is about 17Mb per month....
If i can help you in anything with solving this - let me know.
Thanks Noviur,
Do you know if FIDO allows CSD? If they do I'd consider switching. How do you find the FIDO reception - I've heard that it can be problematic and they don't have as large a coverage area as Rogers.
Where in Canada are you?
Toronto
me too
in some places Fido even beter than Rogers..., such as Steeles & Leslie
In some places the same s...t, such as Bayview & 16th, or Weldrick between Bayview & Spadina...
Let's put this way - the quality of service is better, the service is almost the same, bu limited to the geographic areas... for example i am stil using my Rogers, when going for a weekend up north...
Downtown is very good receiption...
Tell me if you need me more specific...
BUT do not forget, that is is very difficult to bit 45 unlimited+50 unlimited itnernet...
The quality of service must be better with Fido - Nothing could be worse than Rogers.
I too head up north frequently (just about every weekend) but my phone doesn't get reception up there anyway - Neither Rogers or Fido (now Bell gets perfect reception).
Right now I'm on a $20/mth plan that gives me adequate telephone minutes - I get 150 minutes during the day and unlimited evenings and weekends starting at 7pm... that seems to work for me. Jumping to $95/mth would be a big increase that I'm not sure I could/should pay.
Noviur,
Do you know if FIDO has CSD? If they do then you can dial-in to any ISP or RAS server - while it would be much slower than GPRS it would only use your telephone minutes and you wouldn't have to pay the GPRS fees. For me it would be amazing because then I could collect my e-mails, messages, etc. from my work just like i do with my laptop.
I am not sure about it... I think a raised this question some time ago with CSR because of the KSE Fax soft, and was told that Fido does not support CSD... But the best place to check that would be www.howardchui.com forum....
Hi,
I am going on a trip to Florida in August and would like to know what is the best way to get low cost calls and GPRS access. I plan to either use Opera as my main browser or use the EXEC as a modem for my laptop.
I have looked at some options but was not sure whether they will work.
1. Buy a T Mobile Sidekick sim card from a US ebay seller and get GPRS for $1 a day
2. But a T Mobile SPeal Easy Sim card from a us ebay seller and get unlimited GPRS (wap only?)
But will it work with my exec and are there other ways?
If you're currently with a data package from O2, UK, you may find there is no additional cost for using GPRS abroad, i.e., no roaming fee for data connection. This was at least the case when I was travelling in China using Exec with the O2 SIM card. Of course the roaming price for voice calls is however unacceptably high.
I think that in the future we will not to use proveedor, only will need equipment with wireless and a program similar to skype, will dont need plan for 1 or 2 years and only will pay for the minutes that we spend. Also we will need internet in all places for do call.
Now somebody are using skype in g1?
How will you connect to the internet on the go without cellular service? And how will you have cellular service without (get this) a provider? If everyone simply started using VOIP and got the absolute cheapest rate plan, they would simply charge more for the internet packages to compensate the loss of revenue from voice plans. Or do you expect them to just give you internet access everywhere you go?
it is only prediction ,the voip have more fanatic everyday , all depend of technology and will have consequences for current celular service.
For ej there are some city how broward in florida and other city in the country . where there are internet in all place. if you can use equipment with voip and save money , you doit or not? i know that it can affect to cellular proveedor but all depend of customer.
thanks
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How will you connect to the internet on the go without cellular service? And how will you have cellular service without (get this) a provider? If everyone simply started using VOIP and got the absolute cheapest rate plan, they would simply charge more for the internet packages to compensate the loss of revenue from voice plans. Or do you expect them to just give you internet access everywhere you go?
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Here in Germany our highest parlament is going to force our providers (vodafone, tmobile, eplus, o²) to allow voip in their data plans!