VPN calling data number while connected to wifi - Mogul, XV6800 General

I have a 6800 with Verizon and I attend Penn State at the main campus. We have group authenticated VPN security for our on campus wireless. I downloaded BlueFire mobile VPN because it has group authentication capabilities. I connect to the Penn State wireless and then connect with the VPN client, however I notice that my phone calls the 777 number to access the VPN server for some reason, even though I have wireless. I messed around with connection settings, but got no results. My issue with this is that I don't have any data plan because I don't want to pay for it and the data call eats up my minutes.
Does anyone know how to properly set up the connection settings so that I don't pour money into Verizon's pockets?
Also, I don't think this is possible but I might as well ask... is there any way to use the VPN software included with WM to connect to group authenticated VPN servers?

Any clues?

Have you tried turning off data connection?

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I can't VPN with GPRS anywhere!

I'm trying to VPN using GPRS to several networks which I have access to but I can't seem to be able to VPN them with my PDA2K. I can VPN them easily with no special configuration with my XP.
My i-mate keeps trying "Connectioning XX VPN..." and then aborts after about half a minute saying to check the username and password. The username and password are correct.
I called my cellular provider and they said that I should be able to connect to a VPN only if 'UDP Encapsulation' is defined on the VPN server?!?!? Well.. What is this thing? I'm trying to connect to big corp VPN, they wouldn't even listen to 'special requests'. I tried to connect to 4 different VPNs and I could not connect to any single one of them!
I really need that VPN connection via GPRS with my PDA2K. Any help would be more than appreciated. Maybe a different client than the built in VPN client of the WM2003SE ?
Thanks in advance.
Sorci
anyone?
bump for help. this gotta be a common prob.
Your GPRS connection will be subject to some form of NAT (Network Adress Translation) through your provider. VPNs don't get along well with NAT as the firewall doing the address translation modifies the packet header after it has had it's hash value calculated by the client (in this case your PDA). The receiving firewall will reject the packet as the hash values for the (now modified) packet don't match.
UDP encapsulation gets around this by encapsulating the encrypted and authenticated (secure) packet in a UDP packet which will be happily modified by the NAT'ing firewall. The receiving firewall will decapsulate(is that even a word?) the UDP packet and process secure packet inside as normal.
James
Thanks a lot Jamz for the thorough detailed info. I appreciate it.
So what's the fix? I tried several other VPNs and was unable to access them as well.. I can't just call all these providers and make some strange requests for a 'one guy with a pda2k and a gprs connection' that wants them to change their VPNs, enabling or disabling protocols or port.
Any other solution?
sorci said:
Any other solution?
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Are you sure you're using the built-in VPN client in Windows, and not something like a Cisco VPN client?
You could try something like the Movian VPN client (not sure this is still made). I've used this previously with a Cisco VPN and it is fully configurable to handle multiple VPN types.
I've got a similar problem. Am trying to set up a temporary GPRS connection into my work LAN (I work for myself but 2nd child due shortly so want to be able to connect in from home for a couple of weeks only). I've got MS Win2000 Server set up to accept incoming VPN connections and it works fine on a dial-up connection but refuses to authenticate my username/pasword whenever I try to get the GPRS working.
As it's only going to be used for a short period of time, I'm loathe to spend out on any specific hardware/software but if anyone's got any suggestions, I'd be grateful.
If it helps, the LAN is behind a Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router/firewall and VPN PPTP and IPSEC are allowing in and out on it. The server is on a static IP address in the range 192.168.99.x.
GPRS Connections and VPN
With O2 you have to aks for VON connectivity to be enabled and connect to vpn.o2.co.uk instead of mobile.o2.co.uk. (by the way you can't access the web whilst connected to the vpn.o2.co.uk AP)
I suspect that most providers have simalair requirements
Dave

Has anyone got a VPN connection to work with a T Mobile MDA?

I am trying to establish a VPN connection but cannot get the connection to work.
I am using the built in MS VPN client of Win Mobile v5.0 (5.1.1700 build 14352.0.1.0)
I am having real problems getting a VPN connection set up with our network.
I have tried both PPTP and L2PT
When L2TP, I was authenticating with a preshared key
Firewall logs show PPTP negotiation successful, and issues a VPN IP address to the device
It can ping the firewall external interface, but times-out trying to reach an internal address
The VPN session is established, but the firewall logs don't register either deny or allow traffic for each internal ping request, rather the firewall packet error count increments for each failed attempt.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
I had problems with PPTP - gave up
I hate the way Windows mobile labels connections.
I connect to many customers with PC Anywhere, VNC, SSH etc and I have access via serveral different windows PPTP VPN.
Like you I setup the details in connections and try to dial.
Nothing seems to happen. The connect option does not change to disconnect. So I assume it is not connected.
I have a feeling these connection do not work over WIFI. and perhaps work over T-mobile 3g only, to maximise data revenues.
Seems very buggy to me. I would really like someone to post a working example/Instructions. Can I get a refund on my MDA PRo?
MS please note it is not a connection to my work or an internet connection it is to a customer for remote support, likewise I often connect remotely to my home via PPTP from my office.
confirmed VPN works over t-mobile 3g not Wifi
SEems the VPN links only work over 3g not Wi FI.
I'm using a PPTP connection over either 3G of WIFI depending on te active connection.
- When WIFI is active the PPTP connection connects using WIFI (I can switch off the phone, so it must be using that one)
- When no WIFI connection is active it automatically connects to 3G first, and than starts the PPTP session
In network management I'v set:
Internet:
Internet (the one containing the 3G connection)
select 'this network connects to the Internet' on the proxy tab.
private network:
My Work (the one that contains the vpn connection)
do NOT select 'this network connects to the Internet' on the proxy tab.
So as you can see, nothing special (I'm using a Qtek 9000 with standard Wm5 ROM)

Bluefire VPN over 3G

HI there,
Has anyone experienced an issue whereby bluefire or similar contivity VPN client connects seamlessly over WIFI and 3G however will only allow RDP or VNC over WIFI.
I am currently running bluefire and am able to authenticate through 3G but thats it, I have no other functionality.
Any help would be great!
Thx
I've seen it where specific ports are blocked on the 3G providers network, but given that you're establishing a vpn tunnel, that should be irrelevent, as all the traffic should be tunneled via the VPN. I wonder if the Device isn't picking up the new route to send the traffic via the VPN, and is instead sending it via the 3g connection to a non-existant device.
Does your VPN-endpoint give you any logs to show if its actually receiving the traffic from the device? Are you able to ping anything within the remote network (assuming ping is allowed) from the device?
One thing I have noticed is that if you have a 3G connection open, then establish a wifi connection, the routing table doesn't seem to update to use the wifi connection and you actually have to kill the 3G session. I wonder if something like that is happening here - the 3g session establishes a default route, the VPN session then comes up but the device doesn't realise to send traffic via the VPN session. Or are you getting any traffic through the 3G/VPN connection?
I have the option to turn on verbose logging. I ll give that a go and see if it highlights anything really obvious.

vx6800 vpn questions

Greetings
Background:
I have a Verizon wireless vx6800 with no data plan. I was unable to find any information on google so i thought i'd come here.
Question:
If i am connected to the wireless network at my company, can i connect to our vpn server without being billed for data usage from Verizon?
I did connect to our vpn network, and the phone had the data connect symbol above the antenna symbol. The phone did not dial the #777 that verizon uses for their data plans, but i just want to make sure before I connect and get a surprise bill..
Any help or comments will be very useful..
If you're connecting to Microsoft Exchange, then you are using data.
I think you misunderstood the question. I'm talking about a vpn connection to a specific pc on our network. Not our exchange server.
You can connect to an exchange server via wireless network. btw

VPN over public wifi

Hello!
I was on a vacation abroad recently and tried out something novel for me: To use VPN while on a public wifi. Another neatness was that the PPTP VPN server was running on my ASUS RT-AC66U router back home, an endpoint I'm pretty comfortable with
However, there was one thing that griped me: Whenever I established a connection to a wireless network, Viber or Facebook Messenger or something would pop up a message before I could establish the VPN connection. Now, since I don't know how these services work, I don't know if there was a brief period in there that my device communicated messages and credentials in the open. Hopefully there remains some sort of encryption certificates from a previously negotiated session, but I'd like to be confident that it's not possible to send unencrypted credentials or messages.
Ideally, the phone should remain passive until all traffic is routed through the secure tunnel. Is there any way to do this? Android introduced "Always-On VPN" that sounds like it claims to be what I'm looking for. However, it only works for L2TP as far as I understand.
The usage case scenario here allows for no data by default/block all ports/route everything locally. Then if wifi connection is established, open port for VPN connection, establish VPN, then open all ports. Presently I've switched to OpenVPN also, and installed the "OpenVPN for Android" application. I have no problems establishing a VPN connection, it's just tightening any holes I'm interested in.

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