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Garmin Mobile XT Update

Has anyone had any problems with the new Garmin XT update version 4.20.40w. I updated yesterday and now it will no longer find a GPS located on com 4, it will only find the "GPS Intermediate Driver." If anyone else has experienced this problem, or has any answers please help me out. Thanks
I'm using DCD 3.0.0, with Sprint.

h121h said:
Has anyone had any problems with the new Garmin XT update version 4.20.40w. I updated yesterday and now it will no longer find a GPS located on com 4, it will only find the "GPS Intermediate Driver." If anyone else has experienced this problem, or has any answers please help me out. Thanks
I'm using DCD 3.0.0, with Sprint.
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Sounds like a similar issue with 4.20.30. I would stick with 4.20.20, as that is verified as working.

Thanks for the reply roninld. I did not know there was an issue with 4.20.30, guess I will go back and downgrade.

roninld said:
Sounds like a similar issue with 4.20.30. I would stick with 4.20.20, as that is verified as working.
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Where can I get the 4.20.20 version? I don't see an option to download previous versions on their website.
I am currently running version 4.10.40

Version 4.20.20 can be downloaded here: http://www.gpsinformation.org/perry/gps10/GarminMobileXTforWindowsMobile_42020w.exe

I've been using "GPS Intermediate Driver" since start using Garmin Mobile XT. When upgraded to 4.20.40, it tried to hook up with COM4, but very slow. I went back directly to the Intermediate Driver.

Coolpics said:
I've been using "GPS Intermediate Driver" since start using Garmin Mobile XT. When upgraded to 4.20.40, it tried to hook up with COM4, but very slow. I went back directly to the Intermediate Driver.
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I've thought about trying that and seeing how that works out. What's the difference between Intermediate Driver and the actual GPS on COM4. I wonder if there is any accuracy difference?

4.20.50w is now out from Garmin. I'm going to download it to my phone soon. I haven't has problems with Mobile XT. .3 and /4 have been fine with me.

hey guys, quick question. Garmin works well on my mogul, but i realized it's using the "intermediate driver" My main questions are: What exactly does that mean, and is it a bad thing?
I've tried setting it to use com4, but it searches and i guess automatically sets itself to intermediate. I'm running 4.20.50 btw

IIIMik3 said:
hey guys, quick question. Garmin works well on my mogul, but i realized it's using the "intermediate driver" My main questions are: What exactly does that mean, and is it a bad thing?
I've tried setting it to use com4, but it searches and i guess automatically sets itself to intermediate. I'm running 4.20.50 btw
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At least for me, it seemed like whenever I went to the Intermediate Driver, my time would reset back to a previous time date. That was one of the main problems with any version above 4.20.20wp that I ran into.
Thanks

roninld said:
At least for me, it seemed like whenever I went to the Intermediate Driver, my time would reset back to a previous time date. That was one of the main problems with any version above 4.20.20wp that I ran into.
Thanks
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Oh well actually i was just looking to find out what it means to be using the intermediate driver, as opposed to com4 and whether or not it's a bad thing.

roninld said:
At least for me, it seemed like whenever I went to the Intermediate Driver, my time would reset back to a previous time date. That was one of the main problems with any version above 4.20.20wp that I ran into.
Thanks
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I had the same problem and went back to 4.20.20wp. I'm hoping a new version will fix this.

chopstick89 said:
I had the same problem and went back to 4.20.20wp. I'm hoping a new version will fix this.
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I think i've deduced that it only screws up the clock if it isn't able to get a sat lock and then you exit. Otherwise it works fine for me, as long as it gets a sat lock, even using the intermediate driver.

IIIMik3 said:
I think i've deduced that it only screws up the clock if it isn't able to get a sat lock and then you exit. Otherwise it works fine for me, as long as it gets a sat lock, even using the intermediate driver.
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I've come to the same conclusion.

Cycomachead said:
4.20.50w is now out from Garmin. I'm going to download it to my phone soon. I haven't has problems with Mobile XT. .3 and /4 have been fine with me.
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.50w runs faster than the previous versions (screen response, route calculation, etc) I've noticed, and much more stable than .30w or .40w.

Seems to me tho that 0.50w will always go for the intermediate driver, and hence the time reset. 0.20w the serial com4 setting stays 'sticky' so no problem with reset time even if a lock not found.

I am having a problem with Mobile XT not closing the GPS connection correctly when you exit the application. If I shut my phone off/on and run mobile XT the program runs great with no issues. GPS is flawless on com4. When I exit the application there is no errors however if I try to restart the GPS never works again. Also the GPS will cease to function in other apps such as Google Maps. A soft-reset does not fix the issue either. I have to actually shut the phone off/on to gain use of the GPS again...any thoughts? Running DCD 3.2.6 and radio 3.42.50

Ok... This is the first time I've tried Garmin Mobile XT. I want to know what the hype's about. What am I missing to get this to work? I downloaded and installed verzion .50.. but without a "Registration code" It won't let me connect to anything but a Garmin device.
I currently use TomTom 7

Hehe well you need to install the app then turn around and grab city navigator to put maps on it. There are "sites" around that provide what you need. As to my issue I think I narrowed it down to when I actually lock the phone with windows mobile. If I do not lock it things appear to work fine...
Now why use garmin XT over the others. Only reason is NAVTEQ. Navteq maps are by far better compared to the crap TeleAtlas has. Living in Iowa, I think TeleAtlas forgot we were a state whereas Navteq at least gives a damn heh.
iGo8, Tomtom = teleatlas
Garmin XT = navteq

Gotcha. Ok.. I got it to allow me to see the GPS... now I just need the maps. I'm trying to get them off of my C330 using gpsdaemon. just not having any luck

Telus HTC touch/Elf GPS trouble

With the new Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade is available for the Telus HTC touch, we can now have access to the GPS function. Witch is great. The only problem, I kneed to use the Telus Navigator program in order for my GPS to work.
Other program will work but only after enabling the GPS by starting Telus Navigator.
The 2 other program I'm trying to configure are : Google maps and GPS Tuner.
Both work, but not before I turn on the Telus GPS program, even if I set the port manually.
Is there any buddy els with that same problem ?

Salut alex
I have the HTC Touch from Telus (wich is the Vogue by the way, not the Elf, that's the GSM version ( from Rogers))
I have acces to my GPS from Google maps without having to open Telus Navigator or any other software. You just have to make sure you have a data session active. Just move the map in google around so it will connect the data and you should be good to go!
Also, of course, make sure you have checked the "use GPS" function!
Oh! Remember that the phone needs to see the sky to detect satellites! It won't work well inside...

Guys... check out this thread which I started once the leaked rom was released.. In it you will find directions to fully activate your gps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&highlight=telus

Thanks Guys.
I spent two days searching post on finding a way to make it work. For a reason I dont know, I could not activate my GPS without the Telus navigator. And it seams I'm not the only one.
The best way I found is true GPS gate. A software the activate your GPS port. Then I could use any GPS program I installed.
Still trying out a programs to find the best one that suites me tho !

how do you guys use gps?

hi folks,
how do you folks use gps? I have a p3600, already flashed w/ akeo wm6.1 build 19965; i read somewhere that if it's at version wm 6.1 that gps should already been enabled. anyway, I installed iGuidance version 3.0 and it couldn't find the gps. just thought how you folks use the gps.
thanks!

You should flash your PDA also with latest radio 1.56.70.11. Then you will have good working GPS

Make sure you've got it set to use com9

no luck
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Make sure you've got it set to use com9
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i upgraded radio to 1.50, and used com port 9 but still no luck.
it still thinks i'm at another location but i can't get it to figure out that I'm not there anymore.
i recall, as I had another phone to play w/ that, i had to do something similar to that 'quick gps' download, then another one that actually kind of tells gps(?) where i'm at. is there something similar on the trinity? if not, what else can I do? what do you guys use? or the process that you go through.
thanks alot!

Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.

still no luck.
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Also check the baud rate. Look in settings > system > external gps
mines set to com9 baud rate 115200
Make sure your GPS app is set to the same.
My radio rom is 1.56.70.11 but you should be fine with 1.50 & you're right, wm6.1 does have GPS enabled.
I'm using TomTom 7. It can can up to 10 minutes before it gets a signal. I have tried QuickGPS but am not convinced it makes any difference. Make sure you're outside too.
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so you just set these settings - com port, baud rate w/ in the 'external gps' settings, and in tomtom 7, it just works? you don't have to do anything else?
oh i would just love to get this working. thanks!

what rom are you using?
btw, what rom are you using? the default one? or a customized one?
I googled around and came across htc's site where there's a rom download that'll enable gps (and get free tomtom 6) but when I input my serial number it says it's not suitable for my device, did anyone try this?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=3&cat=2&dl_id=111

that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?

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that's right, stick em in and it's all go! I'm currently using g77 wm6.1 rom, the current one in his post in the wm6 forum but it's worked with every rom I've used, from wm5 up. Have you tried any other programs that can use gps? There's a few free ones aout, I know Wififofum can use it.
That's the original wm5 rom, it's old, not sure why it's got a recent date. Think there was a post in the wm6 forum about it the other day.
How long are you waiting for it to get a fix? I've never used iGuidance before, does it say anything like waiting for fix or saterlites?
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I downloaded Wififofum and on the bottom it shows "GPS: NotFix (0)", i'm using com port 9, i think this is the correct one as if I change to another com port, it just keeps saying "re-connecting". My radio version is pretty recent - 1.4.6 or so (same as yours actually). could the GPS be defective?
if I use iGuidance, it just says 'waiting for gps signal'

for your first GPS fix, it could take a very long time, even more if you're moving.
When you got some spare time, put your trinity close to a window, start up your GPS app, and leave it there for a while. Trinity has no aGPS, and I'm not sure if there's any software that can get it, and pass the data to any GPS app running.
If you change GPS configs on iGuidance, does the message 'waiting for gps signal' change to something else like "no GPS device" or so?

it works!!! yeh!!
hey guys, thanks so much for helping me out!
It works. I guess all this time, even though I put the phone right by my window here at the office it still wasn't good enough, I had to get out of my office and sit on some benches and after a couple of minutes iGuidance was able to know and show me exactly where I was.
the bottom line was I wanted to make sure that the gps wasn't defective....
thanks so much again for all you guys' help!
Aloha from Hawaii!

Tomtom dropping GPS

Using TomTom v7.450 (build 9028) the device can work fine for hours, but sometimes I start Tomtom and it will find a GPS signal and then immediately drop it again.
When I look at the satellite information, it will do this...
1. No GPS device!
2. Poor signal, are you indoors?
3. Built-in GPS receiver
4. No GPS device!
5. Poor signal, are you indoors?
6. Built-in GPS receiver
7. No GPS device!
and repeat..
You can view a video showing this effect
@ youtube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VRkPmhbst0o
@ http/avi: http://phat.nooblet.org/htc.touch.hd_tomtom.gps.avi

Hi, I've the same problem on my Blackstone, GPS works well for days bu from today the GPS signal result discontinuous with any navigation software like Tomtom(various versions), Trackypro and iGO8...any idea? Thanks

I had the similar problem when I first installed TomTom. Which settings are you using? Because I used "built-in GPS" for TomTom and had the above problem. When I changed it to "Other NMEA GPS" with baud rate at 11200 ()or whatever the max is + COM4 then gps started working like a charm. Since then no signal drops, no lag and very quick fix. Not sure if it is just by chance or is it a real fix for the above problem, but worth trying as its working for me. However, it has been 2 days only. Not sure if after a while I will have this problem or not. I am using Tom Tom 7.910 with maps 6.75.

Can You try to set the hardware port from <None> to COM9? Seems work better, the GPS signal still present...but for now I'm at home

I have more or less the same problem !
Using TomTom v7.450 (build 9028) the device works fine the 1st week, but now, I start Tomtom it xan't find GPS device !
I tried to reinstall all without success...
I also tried all the COM available !

using tomtom 7 with NMEA com 4 max baud rate. Works just fine. 8 or 9 sats locked on constantly in open areas

I'm having the same problem, although I don't have TomTom 7. But it doesn't seem to be just TomTom that's having trouble finding the GPS (and when it does, it'll never get a fix).
The Google Maps application also gives me the "No GPS found" attitude.
I've installed the HTC GPS Tool, which does seem to find a bunch of satellites, but they all stay no-fix-reddish.
Are there any guidelines on how to setup the GPS on this thing? I find it a bit strange that my settings menu only lists an option "External GPS", and no "Internal/Built-In GPS".

Can confirm that the dropping of GPS is in other applications.
I use zürich map from Lonely Planet (sure its form 2003) and it will drop the signal in the open.
Have a feeling its internal on our devices.

One possibility is A-GPS.
It is Disabled by default, but it is possible that with tools like HD Tweak or Advanced Config Tool, you, even by being unaware of it, you activated (or better : enabled) it.
To me, it was a winner : after re-disabling A-GPS, my GPS started to be stable again, no matter what port I choosed and how I configured the Navigator program.
Give it a try, could be the solution that works for you

Hi there,
I've just picked up my lovely HTC Touch HD - I'd like to buy the TomTom 7 and the correct maps to go with it to allow it to work.
Can someone please tell me where I can go to stick my Visa card details into and buy please! i'm pretty confused on the TT website and on here there's allsorts of version numbers etc mentioned!
I'd just like to have a stable running TT on my Touch!
Any chance of also having the US & Canada maps working as well as the UK maps ?
Thanks !
Dennis! West London UK!

This is not a TomTom issue. I have same problem with IGo and VisualGPSce.
I use to resolve this issue this way (in IGo or VisualGPS) : I change the baudrate in GPS configuration. Switching 19200 to 38400, or reverse, or whatever : the GPS locks and is stable after few baudrate switches.

Theres some reports that the default "sleep" timeout for GPS is 1 second. Apparently the Microsoft Intermediate Driver only updates every 1 second so it could just miss it and go to sleep!
Try changing registry entry to 2000 (milliseconds)...
HKLM->system->currentcontrolset->GPSIntermediate Driver->Drivers-> SleepOnNoData

Tirinoarim said:
Theres some reports that the default "sleep" timeout for GPS is 1 second. Apparently the Microsoft Intermediate Driver only updates every 1 second so it could just miss it and go to sleep!
Try changing registry entry to 2000 (milliseconds)...
HKLM->system->currentcontrolset->GPSIntermediate Driver->Drivers-> SleepOnNoData
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Already did it (currently set to 2500). But changes nothing (even after soft reset) : GPS keeps deconnecting/reconnecting as described (not every time; one in a while..).
Thanks anyways !

Just out of interest, do you have MobileJustice installed by any chance?

Absolutly not. Nor any software of this type, nor any software who can possibly take GPS in background..

I had the problem of TomTom getting satelites and then dropping them and saying it couldn't find the gps.
Disabling agps (quick gps) via advance config seemed to sort out the problem

AGPS is *not* quickGPS in my understanding. But this is unclear. For a proof, AGPS comes disabled by default, but quickGPS works out of the box. Can someone who knows for sure, precisely state if AGS and quickGPS are the same thing or not ?
I have disabled AGPS also with HD tweak (but quickGPS stills work..), and I have regulary (2 out of 3 times) this problem.

I had the same problem. Disabling the AGPS seems to have worked but I will wait for the data to expire before confirming.
The problem seems to be when I have poor GPS reception AND poor GSM. They seem to be calling upon each other for corrections but never resolve.
If this is the solution I will just rely on QuickGPS alone which has worked fine for years with TTN6.
Edit: I can now confirm disabling AGPS solved my problem.

had TTN7 running for a few days now.
Can't find the built in GPS. Having to set it to other Bluetooth GPS Receiver.
A bit hit and miss with signal / getting a fix.
I have turned off AGPS as well. Going to try out some of the settings you all have put up tomorrow.

AlexEv said:
had TTN7 running for a few days now.
Can't find the built in GPS. Having to set it to other Bluetooth GPS Receiver.
A bit hit and miss with signal / getting a fix.
I have turned off AGPS as well. Going to try out some of the settings you all have put up tomorrow.
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Working great ...
AGPS off - Using COM 4

Assisted GPS Pharos?

The Pharos is supposed to have AGPS. Do they mean QuickGPS or is there really AGPS on it? Where can I find it on the Pharos?
I have the WM6.0 Dutch version.

when i turn on tomtom in my house it says im in the location of the nearest gsm beacon...before i have a satellite fix, thats assisted GPS i think...
quick gps only has the trajectories of satellites in the "local" sky so the gps chip can get a fix quicker

Strange, nothing happens when I start TomTom.
Can you give me your settings in the register:
HKLM>Software>HTC>SUPL AGPS>

i checked but no such key
wat is the setting of your key?

Keysetting in HKLM>Software>HTC>SUPL AGPS> is:
(Default) (value not set)
EnableAGPS 1
EnableGPSSmartMode 1
GPSMode 2
NumberFixes 389AC9FF
QosAccuracy 32 (50)
QosPerformance 59 (89)
ServerIP 195.207.101.126
Serverport 1E6C (7788)
TimeBetweenFixes 1
When I first started with the Pharos there was no AGPS, also not in the registry the Supl AGPS. I found a registry-entry for the Pharos on this site and put it on the Pharos. When I start 'Advanced Config' from Schaft I can see under GPS that AGPS is enabled.
When I start TomTom 7.9 there's no start of GPRS. Also my GPRS monitor sees no action. So I presume AGPS is not working.
Maybe I need some dll drivers, I don't know. Can somebody help?

you have a confusing story
first you talk about GPS and then about GPRS
these are 2 different things
GPRS is your data connection (in case EDGE is not available)
GPS is global positioning system and i didnt know tomtom 7.9 was out, i use 6.
if you do a simple search on the phorum you can see that tomtom 7.9 causes a few problems i suugest you read that!
my advice would be to revert back to 6 .. works great on the pharos

Maybe I'm confused. I thought Assited-GPS uses GPRS to make contact with the gsm beacons and so make a faster fix with these beacons. Am I wrong about that?
The builtin GPS from the Pharos works fine but is not very fast with the first fix. I thought AGPS would help making a faster fix.
I already had TomTom 7.4 and know 7.9 (cracked version). Works fine on the Pharos. I will look for the problems with 7.9 on the forum.
Thanks

hmmm yeah makes sense we do need a server to relay the info... but ive looked it up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGPS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_Assisted_GPS
our device is on the list... but i dont think i have a server setting... and my gps (tomtom) doesnt have to have a connection to the internet.
strange but fun to find out how it works...

TomTom does not use the AGPS function. Enable quickgps to do this before you use your navigation software (TomTom). It can automatically download the satellite info for you which is good for about 2 days. You can update through your cellular connection if you have data on your plan or through activesync. TomTom 7 will work without using the AGPS function but it will take longer to find a fix on the satellites. TomTom 7 is required if you want to use the internal gps receiver with TomTom. TomTom 6 does not work without some hacks.

I think that Google Maps do use the AGPS function. It is much faster to find the coordinates than fx TomTom and other GPS software i've tried, so i think that a program needs to be developed with use of the agps function if it uses it..

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I think that Google Maps do use the AGPS function. It is much faster to find the coordinates than fx TomTom and other GPS software i've tried, so i think that a program needs to be developed with use of the agps function if it uses it..
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the fast "fix" that you see with google maps it's not a gps fix... it shows you the cell radio where you are hooked

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the fast "fix" that you see with google maps it's not a gps fix... it shows you the cell radio where you are hooked
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Ohh, okay. That's the reason for the very big radius.. But pretty smart after all..