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SPB Mobile 1.0 and now also 1.5.0 beta 2 - Lack of sound & restart issues

I know it's been mentioned before regarding an incompatibility between SPB Mobile 1.0 and the Ameo, but I thought that this might have been rectified by 1.5.. unfortunately not...
Unless I'm missing a trick that someone else has worked out...??
The application works okay for a while but if I fiddle with the NOW screen too much I end up muting the phone's speaker, regardless on the volume setting... has anyone worked out a way around this?
Also, it has the same glitch that Pocket Plus has where occasionally, but more often than not, if loaded and you soft-reset the device, the device will go into a crazed loop, showing the boot screens, then flashing the today screen (blank) then repeating the boot screens and so on....

jmdrizen said:
I know it's been mentioned before regarding an incompatibility between SPB Mobile 1.0 and the Ameo, but I thought that this might have been rectified by 1.5.. unfortunately not...
Unless I'm missing a trick that someone else has worked out...??
The application works okay for a while but if I fiddle with the NOW screen too much I end up muting the phone's speaker, regardless on the volume setting... has anyone worked out a way around this?
Also, it has the same glitch that Pocket Plus has where occasionally, but more often than not, if loaded and you soft-reset the device, the device will go into a crazed loop, showing the boot screens, then flashing the today screen (blank) then repeating the boot screens and so on....
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That's the exact reason I uninstalled it from 3 devices we have in the family. Not worth purchasing until issues fully resolved.

i have it in spb pocket plus
no probleme over all
i think that there's some problem (i see it when using profiles)
but i don't know if it's spb phone suite that makes it
my X7500 is stable, but i have tu reset it some time ( it freezes using it in differrent cases), but i don't know if it is the x7500 rom or any of my installed software
over all it's like all pocket pc i had , it run very very good at star with no program instaled, then the program you instal, the less stable and slower it become
but what to do ? instal or not instal programs ?

axle7517 said:
i have it in spb pocket plus
no probleme over all
i think that there's some problem (i see it when using profiles)
but i don't know if it's spb phone suite that makes it
my X7500 is stable, but i have tu reset it some time ( it freezes using it in differrent cases), but i don't know if it is the x7500 rom or any of my installed software
over all it's like all pocket pc i had , it run very very good at star with no program instaled, then the program you instal, the less stable and slower it become
but what to do ? instal or not instal programs ?
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Whether you install them or not depends on how valuable the software is to you. To me I would like to have it on there, but I work shifts and sometimes need to get up early hours, without sound on my device I wouldn't hear the alarms.... so can't risk it :-(
"Get an alarm clock"... why should I? It's a feature on the phone, don't buy an all singing all dancing phone then tell it to stop singing :-D

Ive been late for work once because my phone crashed.
I avoid anything that could cause problems on it now!
I agree, you get something that can do everything so you can use it for everything! I like being able to set different alarms on different days, with different sounds etc. Not many alarm clocks are that configurable.

"I agree, you get something that can do everything so you can use it for everything!
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exactly !!
and X7500 is clearly not very stable (but is it rom or instaled programmes that makes it unstable?)
i had one time the same probleme, with no reason (the x7500 was sleeping in the hall) it freeze/crash at 23h59 !!
???
for chance i had no important appointment this morning !!
so from this day i close all programs , and just let spb alarm
no probleme then
but it's crazy we've got the best device that exists and we can not trust it !!!
talking about spb phone suite, for myself i find it very usefull
(excuse my bad english)
regards

the problem is SPB PLus
resets all the time in a loop
untill I have removed it
BYE BYE SPB

Ronv said:
the problem is SPB PLus
resets all the time in a loop
untill I have removed it
BYE BYE SPB
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Unfortuantely it's not just SPB Plus, it's also Mobile and a few others in their suite :-(

I have lots of programs installed, but NO today plugins etc. No spb apps, no launchers or Wizbars etc.
Its totally stable like this. It DOES NOT crash.
When I start adding today apps and stuff it starts to crash, even when I started the HTCHomePlug app, the phone kept crashing. Turning that off fixed it.
hard reset, dont install anything, its totally stable.

Pyrofer said:
I have lots of programs installed, but NO today plugins etc. No spb apps, no launchers or Wizbars etc.
Its totally stable like this. It DOES NOT crash.
When I start adding today apps and stuff it starts to crash, even when I started the HTCHomePlug app, the phone kept crashing. Turning that off fixed it.
hard reset, dont install anything, its totally stable.
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I agree with you 100%

Ronv said:
I agree with you 100%
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Yeah, that's true, but I got the item to use it... to me that's like buying a computer, and not installing any applications on it. If I wanted a phone that just called and text I'd get a Nokia. I enjoy the software, and till they produce a more stable ROM will continue to play Russian Roulette PPC style :-D

jmdrizen said:
Yeah, that's true, but I got the item to use it... to me that's like buying a computer, and not installing any applications on it. If I wanted a phone that just called and text I'd get a Nokia. I enjoy the software, and till they produce a more stable ROM will continue to play Russian Roulette PPC style :-D
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i agree with you at 200%
you just said everything that is needing to say about pocket pc
great, thank

I didnt say dont install apps! I install apps on my PPC and PC, they both work.
What I dont do is install hacks that change major operating system features. Like third party skin/launchers ala Wisbar Advance etc.
Im not knocking WA or its ilk, I just think when you start hacking into the os in that way you are bound to sacrifice stability. There is no was the coders can know everything they need to about Windows, MS just wont let them.
If its important to have your phone working 100%, be carefull what you install, same as with a PC. If its THAT important, then by all means get a nokia and a separate PPC.
If your happy with the fact it will crash randomly, then thats fine too.
I mainly brought this up to point out to all the people knocking WM5 and MS for the Windows Mobile OS, its not their fault! its the third party apps making it unstable. The rom, as shipped is solid.

Pyrofer said:
The rom, as shipped is solid.
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Sorry, but I disagree with this point.
I have had several models of most of T-Mobiles MDA range and two of the Ameo. I've had to return Compact III handsets, which just have factory settings due to ROM stability issues, mainly a crash loop.
You rarely get a ROM that is 100% stable, especially from a UK network provider, due to the provider hitting the point that you quiet rightly stressed, by them adding their third party settings, applications and tweaks.
Most providers want to brand the phone with their identity, which causes instabilities, but these edits are on the shipped ROM release, not something which the typical end user can modify. Bringing me back to my point, the ROM as shipped, is not always great in itself either.

Ronv said:
the problem is SPB PLus
resets all the time in a loop
untill I have removed it
BYE BYE SPB
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Ha ha, this goes to show how wierd things could become.
I do not have this problem with SPB plus. It works wonderfully. It has not even once reset in a loop. Stange?? However, when I tried SPB mobile, it did caused very strange behaviour, and I uninstalled it immediately.
I use SPB plus with magic button and they complement each other very nicely. SPB plus lets me lauch all applications from today screen. Once launched, magic button let it stay on the task bar, and I simply click on the task bar to switch between application. It is very stable. I have about 30 different applications installed in my device. All very stable. No issue with SPB pocket plus and can't live without it.

Easy question for ya peeps

I have the HTC 4000 from telus/canadian version. It looks the same as the titan. I'm curious is it the same PDA? I'm looking to change the mod to a iphone mod if thats even possible since it is touch screen or just something more snappier since my work mates are starting to get the same phone and would like to be better looking hehe.
PS. Is it possible to unlock my phone to change it to different mods?

the p4000 is the titan yes...
ppcgeeks.com has custom roms galore, find one to suit your needs

Has there been a successful iphone mod to the Alltel version of the Sprint Mogul? Is there someone on this forum who has the Alltel version with either the TouchFlo theme or iPhone theme?

If you're looking to spruce up your titan, I'd look into something like Wisbar Advance Desktop and Wisbar Advance 3 from lakeridge software, before I looked into custom roms. I dont think there are any custom roms yet for the titan but with those two programs you can download or even make your own themes, they have about a billion different iphone themes to download on their forums.
Here's one WAD that makes your phone look just like an iphone.
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12180
Heres another example of what you can do
http://lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10348
There are some programs you can find here on xdadevs like Slide to Unlock and Pocketcm that will further add iphone like features to your phone.
Check out Lakeridgesoftware.com. I think they might cost like 10 bucks each but you can do some amazing things with both programs.

the iphone theme really isn't my style but heres a couple pics of it running on my titan, not the best shots in the world but gives you an idea

thanks jonnycross for the pics. did you use the instructions given out by torx on the lakeridge site? I appreciate any help. Thanks.
Meanwhile i think i will go ahead and purchase the programs that you provided me the link to.

yup, there is a readme file in the newest version zip that explains it all. You can download a free trial of wisbar advance desktop and wisbar advance 3 for like 15 days to try it out before you even spend any money. If you run into any problems I might be able to help you out.

hey jonnycross22, someone had suggested in another forum to update my rom before I do the iphone theme. Did you have to go through this as well? I get my phone tomorrow (hopefully) and I will check to see what rom it is running.
Also Alltel is advertising WM5 for the PPC6800. I don't think it should make a difference, should it?
I just want to make sure that I have the necessary things done to the phone before I get the iphone theme on.

wm5 should run it just fine, you shouldn't have to do any rom updating at all, the programs will run regardless, let me know if you have any problems getting it all up and running and i'll help you out

1. Is it possible to startup on the regular windows desktop, and then launch the iphone theme?
2. Does your iphone theme slow or freeze your phone?
3. I click on calendar and it shows my calendar on monthly view, but I cant close on the top right corner, like there isn't an exit button there. Any suggestions?

Alright, an update on installing the iphone theme on my phone.
I have gotten everything installed and linked the missing links to the icons. I also managed to correct the exit deal with the calendar, for some reason everytime i clicked the calendar it would load two of them. So I just unlinked and relinked the path.
When playing youTube videos i get the error "The file 'rtsp://rtsp.yoube.com/youtube/videos/... cannot be opened..." anybody with this problem? I'll try checking out some things and report back.

what program are you using to view the youtube files TCPMP? do you have a flash bundle pack installed?

just installed the flash bundle pack and it works great now. Everything works, but after getting a few calls and browsing a few minutes my phone will not ring and sometimes will hang after sliding to unlock. I can live without the s2unlock but any suggestions on why it will not ring when a call is recieved?

Honestly, I've had nothing but trouble with all the slide to unlock programs i've ever tried on the mogul, I tried a couple different versions and always had some kind of issues, either with it freezing, caller id, even text messaging, which is too bad because I really, really like the slide to unlock programs but in the end I just had to uninstall them because they had more problems than the program was worth :/ just letting you know you aren't alone, I tried just about EVERYTHING to get a fully functional S2U program working on the mogul, just didn't happen

Theme has been running successfully for a full day, although I had to uninstall S2U.
It really is too bad that S2U has too many problems, it was kind of a neat little program.
Thanks for the heads up johnnycross22.

WM 6.1 problem - Slowdown after gameplay

I have an Alltel HTC Touch, and I have a problem with WM 6.1; everytime I close out a game, it slows down my entire phone (and sometimes freezes it if I load an app like Opera Mobile). I've been to PPCGeeks about this, and they helped me a lot, by helping me overclock the processor. My phone doesn't slow down too much anymore, but the slowdown is noticeable enough to still be a problem.
I've flashed to at least six different WM6.1 roms now, and each of them gave me the same issue.
Does anyone have any fixes for this? I would really appreciate the help!!
SIDE NOTE:
Also, my camera is very laggy indoors. It ran perfectly smooth before my transition to 6.1, and it remains laggy when I flash back to the stock WM 6.0. Its bearable right now, but if anyone knows how to get it running smoothly indoors again, I'd really appreciate it!

For starters, this is not an issue with the OS.
What game is it?
How many other apps are running?
How many processes are running?
What ROM are you using?
What is the Page Pool size?

Thanks for the quick reply!
Uh oh... that means the problem lies with my phone. I hope it's a problem that can be fixed...
Do you know if there's anything I can do to fix this then?

Oxymoron said:
Thanks for the quick reply!
Uh oh... that means the problem lies with my phone. I hope it's a problem that can be fixed...
Do you know if there's anything I can do to fix this then?
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LOL!
I'm trying to help you, but I can't until you answer some of the questions.
It's like calling a mechanic and asking what's wrong with your car, it runs a bit odd, but that's all the info given.

Sorry about the double post. My info's below.

Maybe a little more information will help.
My phone first started doing this when I flashed to the new Alltel WM 6.1 rom. I followed the instructions, doing EXACTLY what the tutorial (from HTC's website) told me to. After the flash everything worked fine except for my camera and the games (slowdown issue).
I hope this helps.
WOW, I am SO sorry, I didn't even see those questions! I thought they were a part of your sig and didn't read it
1. It slows down with any game I run except for the ones that come with the rom (solitaire and bubble breaker). The games I've tried are:
Acky's XP Breakout
4pinball
Anything on Pocketnester
Snails Reloaded
Turbo Invaders
Shift
Realms
More...
2. No other processes are running. The game is the only one.
3. The roms that I've used are (all of these are for Alltel):
Conflipper's Vouge 6.1 ROM
Crystal v.4 6.1 ROM
Official 6.1 ROM
Dette M2D Diamond Edition v2.3 (Generic rom. This is the one I'm on currently).
4. How do I find the pagepool size again?
Again, sorry about that. I didn't see your questions

I officially give up!

Oxymoron said:
My phone first started doing this when I flashed to the new Alltel WM 6.1 rom. I followed the instructions, doing EXACTLY what the tutorial (from HTC's website) told me to. After the flash everything worked fine except for my camera and the games (slowdown issue).
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You should have followed the cookers instructions, if you did not follow their instructions exactly, reflash by their way.
For the camera, it's sometimes laggy, especially with low memory.
Oxymoron said:
Acky's XP Breakout
4pinball
Anything on Pocketnester
Snails Reloaded
Turbo Invaders
Shift
Realms
More...
2. No other processes are running. The game is the only one.
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I haven't even seen half of these games, but PocketNES can be buggy. I suggest using dotfred's Task Manager and viewing CPU usage after playing these games. One of them may have a memory leak causing this.
Also check the other running processes for memoery consumption.
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4. How do I find the pagepool size again?
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Ususally the cooker posts this, but I see he didn't, the basics on this is it determines your available program memory at all times, especially on boot up, if you really want to know, soft reset, wait a min or two and check the avail program memory. Or use nue's system tool to view additional info.
Also, trying using Oxios Memory, it's free and will free up all avail program memory not being used.
You can try schap's Advanced Config Tool to speed up various parts of your device for improvement.
Alright, don't want to sound frustrated, but I just watched some Hell's Kitchen !

You are a genius! Thanks for the suggestions. I'm gonna try them now and see what happens, and I'll be back with my results!
And, no, you didn't sound frustrated, even though if you did, I couldn't blame you
Thanks again!

Okay, I'm back. Using the task manager you suggested, I found the problem.
The game that I tested (4Pinball) is still running after I closed it. It doesn't show up on the quick menu in the upper right corner of the today screen, but it DOES show up in that task manager.
So I go to close it, and it says it can't be closed properly, and it asks me if I want to kill it. The strange thing is, the choices are ok and cancel instead of yes and no. But anyway, I hit ok.
then another message pops up, but there's no text in it; there's just an X there. After I close that message by hitting ok, I see that 4Pinball remains in the task manager, and it's still there even after I hit refresh.
I installed it to the storage card. Would there be a better chance of it working if I install to device memory?

Sometimes I got the blank message to, don't worry about that, but you have to kill the process for it to work.
Try uninstalling it and running without it.

I keep getting the blank screen... I tried to install it on both the storage card and the device memory, but in either case it doesn't close the game. I'll keep tryin'.

Oh yeah, and I tried that oxios memory program, but it didn't work... it would start loading, but it would never come up.
I remember hearing about a program that freed up ram over at ppcgeeks's forum. I'm gonna see if I can track it down.

Looking for help with Manilla2D. Device running EXTREMLY slow =(

Well I did 2 hard resets to see if Manilla2D was the problem and i'm using just that and the stock sprint 6.1 ROM and all of a sudden im having a couple annoying problems and wondering if there is any fixes to them.
- When I click on a Text Message from the main screen and it brings up the threaded texting, when im using XT9 and I start typing it will type as if im holding down the letters like if I press the "as" button "?" will come up, and for me to type normal i have to go to Start>Programs>Messaging, which is really annoying lol.
- Another one is im using the TouchFlo2D Dialer, if i switch to keypad from call status the whole phone freezes up and i have to soft reset
- everytime i restart my touch i get a startkey.exe error and i just hit dont send and start up touchflo.
- last problem/bug that i can remember is that my phone is really really slow and i have nothing on it except manilla2d.
these are the steps i did to install manilla 2D idk if it will help solve my problem:
copied the "EMPTY" biotouch.exe and 3 other files I got from XDA and put them in the "Windows" folder, then used resco registry editor and disabled the cube, then installed all the cabs for Manilla2D to my "Device" not storage card, (it asked me to soft reset after some of them, but i didnt since i was going to soft reset after i finished installing them all.) then soft reseted and manilla2d works just is really laggy =(
any help would be greatly appreciated! thank you in advance =D

I had the same problem with my phone running extremely slow whenever i tried installing manila 2d on my phone through the cab installs. I flashed to a custom rom with manila 2d built in it and the problems went away. It runs extremely smooth now.

ive never flashed my phone and only way i would do it if i had someone walk me through it as im doing it=\

How did you get the 6.1 ROM? You would flash it the same way as you did that one.

i just installed it from the htc site or whatever, but for custom roms dont you have to do all that unlocking and what not?

reeno said:
i just installed it from the htc site or whatever, but for custom roms dont you have to do all that unlocking and what not?
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It's not terribly hard - in fact, the unlocking process is very similar to how you flashed the official ROM update.

Just use COKE's unlocker (just an app like the flasher) and install any custom ROM you want

this slowness has happened to me with a custom rom, i think its manilla.
it was very wierd, overall the entire OS was mega slow and un-usable as the OP said

I found what works best for me is piecing everything. I took everything from Update 19 except M2D-Beta-x.xx(Update19).cab. I installed M2D-Beta-x.xx(Update 15).cab (anything after made my device slow). I installed the latest version of Opera.
(sorry for the dots I'm just looking at them on my phonenand it's not showing all of the titles on some.)
First I ran:
HTC.home.v2.1.1005.722.directory.and.......... .cab
So From 19:
Enchasement..outlook.and.picture...... .cab
Audio Manager_2.0_1819.2129.cab
FSP, DShow, WMP, Youtube, Video Fixes.cab
Album_2.0_1818.3829.4.cab
Task_Manager_2.1 34837.5.cab
GoogleMaps_compressed.cab
HTC_Opera9.5.2392_www.cab(This is not from 19 Found it in another thread)
YouTubeQVGA1_5_1819_1531.and.mhubVO.cab
From Update 15:
M2D-Beta-0.08(Update 15).cab
Good Extras:
digital clock
Ringtone_plugin_1.00.080416.2.cab
Volume_control.cab
UI Tweaker
If you need this packaged let me know.

Great manilla2d rom
Hey guys.
If your looking for a good, fast, stable rom with manilla29 PLEASE flash this rom..............
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432487
NFSFAN has spent lots of time on this and is by far THE BEST manilla2d rom there is out there. He is constantly update bugs and getting the fixes out as soon as possible. This is the closest thing you can get to the diamond/touch pro without buying one. Any questions please feel free to ask BUT READ ALL DIRECTIONS ON FLASHING IF YOU HAVE NOT YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thermus said:
Hey guys.
If your looking for a good, fast, stable rom with manilla29 PLEASE flash this rom..............
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432487
NFSFAN has spent lots of time on this and is by far THE BEST manilla2d rom there is out there. He is constantly update bugs and getting the fixes out as soon as possible. This is the closest thing you can get to the diamond/touch pro without buying one. Any questions please feel free to ask BUT READ ALL DIRECTIONS ON FLASHING IF YOU HAVE NOT YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have to second that.
I used to have the stock Bell 3.09.666.10 ROM, with (my last incarnation) update 21. To get all the parts of M2D running (yuotube etc) you have to install alot of patches and tweaks.
My theory has always been, if you have to add too many parts to get something to work, maybe you should start over. Google "Beech 1900D" to see how this applies to aircraft!! A custom ROM with everyhting cooked in oem style runs much better than a Frankenstien special.
It is fun trying to get everything to work though.

When I first added M2D to my device it was extremely slow. After playing around for a while I found that the page pool played a huge roll in the speed of the rom. My page pool is set at 24 and I have no problems at all. I have had no problems with NFSFAN's roms. I believe the PP is already set to 24. Hope this helps.

JAVA & F1-applet?

Currently I'm running the Cell Pro V11 and although I don't think this ROM-version can be the problem, I thought it was worthy mentioning.
I'm trying to get the official F1-applet going that mobile users can download from http://mobile.formula1.com but for some reason it comes up with an OutofMemory-error even when my TP2 has "only" 48% used after a soft reset.
I was wondering if anyone has experienced this as well or that maybe a JAVA-update is in order or that there is some volatile memory that needs excluding in the registry for this app to work.
Really appreciate some answers/pointers from fellow F1-fans.

Same problem for me as well. Haven't figured out what is wrong. Really wish it wasn't a Java applet.

I will look into that. Downloading and testing.

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I will look into that. Downloading and testing.
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Much appreciated Sergio; I know you're quite the busy bee...

In the FAQ section for the TP2 you will find a link to install JavaFX.
The repeat the procedure and you will not get out of memory anymore

Thanks for that; will try later tonight or tomorrow and report back...
/edit: it works... Bit slow though but I will try it out next F1 to see how accurate it is.
Thanks for the JavaFX hint.

Installed fine but unable to login message keeps coming up with unable to find server.
Any hints mates?
stock Sprint TP2 6.5 Sense 2.5.

Woke up this AM in the USA, & lo & behold the app worked for Round 3 of the WCC - Malaysia.
Nice stuff.
Must've been server issues not allowing some of us to connect the last couple of days.
Best advice I can say for Touch Pro2 owners is download the JavaFX & install that before downloading latest F1 App.
Should be able to get the HTC soft keyboard up & running too & u can choose not to use the app's own proprietary soft keyboard.