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Disagree with me, if you want, but for a very long time, I found myself with a lack of enthusiasm for HTC's various phones. In-between all the various 'meh' releases, there were some nice phones, but they were always nice for only a few reasons. For example, the Touch HD was nice because it had a large display and supposedly better speakers. The Tough Pro 2 is nice because it's a Touch HD with a keyboard. The HTC Dream was nice because it's the first phone to use something other than Symbian/WinMo/OSX.
Now, however, for the first time in a very long time, an HTC phone came out which I can give more than one or two compliments about. This phone is of course the HTC Leo: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/htc-leo-spotted-in-the-wild-sports-gargantuan-800-x-480-display/
Let me list all of the great things I personally see about the phone:
1) 4.3in WVGA display (that surpasses even the Toshiba TG01)
2) 1Ghz Snapdragon processor; I don't think much of Qualcomm, but an upgrade is an upgrade
3) 320MB RAM
4) Dual LED flash on 8MP camera
My God, those specs are simply awesome, and best of all, it uses my favorite OS: WinMo. More importantly, the specs is perhaps good enough to facilitate an upgrade to WinMo 7 later (at least I dearly hope so). The only thing that could make this phone better is a QWERTY version and a release date not too far off.
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The Leo May NOT Have a Capacitive Screen After All - http://pocketnow.com/rumor/the-leo-may-not-have-a-capacitive-screen-after-all
Resistive or capacitive, not a big deal to me personally. Capacitive is a little better, but resistive is more flexible (gloves & stylus).
That aside, 100% this is the first phone since my Touch Pro to really get me excited, and the first ever non-keyboard WM phone I'll buy. Nice to see an actual device just to prove the doubters wrong (seriously, how the ignored the evidence I don't know). Now we just need to get people to stop referring to it as "Touch Pro 3". It's NOT! Also, for those who haven't noticed, THIS IS NOT A RELEASE DEVICE! You really think HTC will release it as-is with the filler "lorem ipsum" text on the back? Sheesh...
Pretty obvious this device's main job is as a tesbed for WM7, the specs of this and WM7 are almost 100% aligned. HTC might not release the upgrade come the time, but the good folk here cetainly will.
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The Leo May NOT Have a Capacitive Screen After All - http://pocketnow.com/rumor/the-leo-may-not-have-a-capacitive-screen-after-all
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Well, to be honest, I didn't even know the Leo was supposed to have a capacitive screen to begin with. Besides, I really do prefer a resistive screen. The screen is good enough as it is; perhaps it could be a bit better if it were AMOLED, but otherwise, meh.
WOW its a Godzilla
very big device because of the screen
but really killer phone
with the 1024mhz cpu , thats really fast
but its not for me
i like a smaller device
3.6 screen is good for me , touch pro 2 is good but it has a turtle CPU and have a screen gap
im very confused now
i think ill go for samsung omnia 2 or omnia pro
Does it fit in a regular pocket? Is it still a PocketPC
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The Leo May NOT Have a Capacitive Screen After All - http://pocketnow.com/rumor/the-leo-may-not-have-a-capacitive-screen-after-all
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Although you may be disappointed, to me a resistive screen makes me WANT it. I prefer a resistive screen because it can run software that would be untenable on a capacitive screen. So thank you for the good news!
Aqrab said:
but really killer phone
with the 1024mhz cpu , thats really fast
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Unlikely, I don't think the CPU is 1024Mhz. More likely than not, it's probably 990-995Mhz and they round it up.
3.6 screen is good for me , touch pro 2 is good but it has a turtle CPU and have a screen gap
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Yes, I don't mind any device so long as it has at least a 3.5in screen. As someone who has been a former user of the HTC Hermes and a current user of the HTC Raphael, I tend to get sick using devices with small screens, and low res.
However, I don't doubt you for thinking of the Omnia II or B7610. I myself was actually planning on buying the B7610.
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Does it fit in a regular pocket? Is it still a PocketPC
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My friend, you are speaking to someone who use to pocket devices like the HP Jornada 548, Palm TX, Ti-85 calculator, and many, many other similar objects. The HTC Leo will not be a problem.
htc leo is a multi touch screen device
see this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=026KGhk29Io
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7764
may be you should check this up..
Isn't multi touch a requirement or goal of wm7?
In any case LEO is attractive to me due to the large screen, my eyes arent as good as they used to be and snapdragon should make it zippy
Is it safe to assume that there is no release date or even any info on what carrier(s) may get it? Sorry for the newbie type question.
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Is it safe to assume that there is no release date or even any info on what carrier(s) may get it? Sorry for the newbie type question.
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You are right.
Till now, Its not 100% clear about anything about Leo.
Even the complete ACTUAL specifications. Like video call support, Camera resolution, keyboard support, etc.
Way too big for a phone the TP2 is pushing it a bit and this size crosses the line for alot of people.
Thanks skr_xd!
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Way too big for a phone the TP2 is pushing it a bit and this size crosses the line for alot of people.
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So a fraction of a millimeter more in size is considered crossing the line now? Maybe if you balls weren't in a vice grip from wearing those skinny jeans, you may find that they will fit in a pants/shirt pocket just fine.
Crossing the line would be the same group of people who ***** about every slim phones for not having a QWERTY keyboard or running on androids.
Please dont soil this masterpiece of a beast with your trite.
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So a fraction of a millimeter more in size is considered crossing the line now? Maybe if you balls weren't in a vice grip from wearing those skinny jeans, you may find that they will fit in a pants/shirt pocket just fine.
Crossing the line would be the same group of people who ***** about every slim phones for not having a QWERTY keyboard or running on androids.
Please dont soil this masterpiece of a beast with your trite.
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Hey Lude,
Why don't you put on some lube and calm your cojones? He had an opinion, and that was it.
This phone is simply just way too big, I'd have to agree. The specs are beastly on this thing, and I personally think even 3.8" on the Touch HD was the ideally perfect size. I have no idea why they'd even want a 4.3".
And personally, unless if this thing is packing a 1850 mAH battery on it, I wouldn't even bother with the phone. 4.3" and a 1Ghz processor + 3G or 4G or what have you. You do the math on how fast before this thing dies in your hand midway through the day. This is assuming that they're using the same old type of LCD-displays that are present in the TouchHD and not some new revolutionary giga-low-powered-screen.
It looks very good on paper, but I'm fairly confident that this phone is going to only attend to a market that is only a fraction of what the TouchHD is focused on now.
Cheers.
It looks nice. And is it the HTC Touch Pro 3? HTC Leo runs on a 1GHz Snapdragon processor?
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It looks nice. And is it the HTC Touch Pro 3? HTC Leo runs on a 1GHz Snapdragon processor?
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Yes, the Leo uses the Snapdragon processor, but it is not the Touch Pro 3. As far as I know, HTC's Touch Pro line are all supposed to be QWERTY.
My dream phone in this world would be a Touch Pro 2 with a Snapdragon, Capacitive touch screen and Android. The closest thing (at least in theory) seems to be the Nexus Two. We do know it will have a qwerty keyboard at least, which is what bothers me the most with the Nexus One..(Probably one of the very few complaints I have about it)..
Anyway, I was very disappointed when I read the rumours that Motorola would be making the N2, but Ive read several discussions since then where people claim to know that HTC is making it after all.
Just wondering if anyone know anything more now? Been a while since Ive seen new updates on the matter.
"There can be only One!!!"
-Connor MacLeod-
If Motorola is making it, I'm giving it a pass and waiting for the N3. If it comes with a hard keyboard, ditto.
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If Motorola is making it, I'm giving it a pass and waiting for the N3. If it comes with a hard keyboard, ditto.
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I agree completely. Motorola makes some ugly ass phones, and their Motoblur skin looks like a pain to use.
My dream device is a Nexus One with a Super AMOLED and slightly larger (say 4") screen.
I spoke to someone I know at Google who said outright, there is no guarantee that HTC will get the Nexus Two. Motorola is the obvious choice. Motorola makes a hell of a good phone. and don't forget, this is a cell phone.
isint the motorola shadow rumored to be the nexus 2
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I agree completely. Motorola makes some ugly ass phones, and their Motoblur skin looks like a pain to use.
My dream device is a Nexus One with a Super AMOLED and slightly larger (say 4") screen.
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My thoughts exactly.
No to hardware keyboard. I like it as it is.
Ditch Snapdragon and go with Tegra 2. Cortex A9 architecture and a vastly better CPU along with amazing battery life? Yes please!
My dream Nexus Two....
Same Body...
4" screen, SUPER AMOLED, 16 GB Internal Memory, 8 megapixel dual led flash camera.
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My dream Nexus Two....
Same Body...
4" screen, SUPER AMOLED, 16 GB Internal Memory, 8 megapixel dual led flash camera.
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and a touch screen that detects multiple touch... this would really soothe a lot of people out there who are wailing that N1 can detect only two touches at a time ...
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Ditch Snapdragon and go with Tegra 2. Cortex A9 architecture and a vastly better CPU along with amazing battery life? Yes please!
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Oh god yes. I like my N1, but the Snapdragon is really not the top of the line.
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4" screen, SUPER AMOLED, 16 GB Internal Memory, 8 megapixel dual led flash camera.
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The Incredible has a 8MP camera. Said camera sucks dicks. MP isn't everything, and phone cameras can only do so much. 5MP strikes a perfect balance, IMO.
My dream phone in this world would be a Touch Pro 2 with a Snapdragon, Capacitive touch screen and Android. The closest thing (at least in theory) seems to be the Nexus Two. We do know it will have a qwerty keyboard at least, which is what bothers me the most with the Nexus One..(Probably one of the very few complaints I have about it)..
Anyway, I was very disappointed when I read the rumours that Motorola would be making the N2, but Ive read several discussions since then where people claim to know that HTC is making it after all.
Just wondering if anyone know anything more now? Been a while since Ive seen new updates on the matter.
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Umm, where is that info coming from? That photochopped fake image of motorola shadow?
I have not seen any info on it. Although I think N2 is coming, as far as I know there was no official confirmation of it, leave alone details like keyboard or photos of it. I think you are speculating based on no real information.
If I'm wrong please show me your sources of info.
I dont really mind no physical keyboard but would love to have bigger screen like may be 4 inch, super amoled screen, dual led flash,tegra cpu, stereo speaker and I will be in heaven.
Mutantblack
Motorola cant make qwerty keyboards! Nexus Two will be a qwerty device, at least according to what Google has been saying. And if Motorola is the one making it, then we get something like the Milestone, which has an awfull keyboard with cramped tiny keys.
No, give it to HTC that will turn out an awesome Touch Pro 2-ish keyboard!
Dream N2? Or Dream Phone?
I think 4" Screen, Snapdragon 1.5Ghz, Tegra 2 or Atom perhaps?
An LET screen (light emitting transistor). Far more efficient.
A Battery that will last a full 24 hours at least, with hammering. 2000+ mAh? (I would happily sacrifice size for a bigger battery (depth, not screen size).
Android obviously.
12 Megapixel camera.
No hardware keyboard (gone are the days of broken keys )
More Ram, and a much larger internal capacity; 2 SD slots?
One can dream...
Basically, battery and screen size.
There will never be a nexus two by that name.
HTC is passing a phone through fcc with a keyboard and snapdragon. I believe it's gonna be GSM but I could be wrong on that.
edit: http://www.intoandroid.org/new-htc-android-spotted-at-fcc-probable-named-as-wildfire.html
NO keyboard, stereo speakers, same form factor, better processor, super amoled and I'm solid. hardware keyboards are over.
My dream N2? Very easy.
GSM version of the HTC EVO 4G.
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There will never be a nexus two by that name.
HTC is passing a phone through fcc with a keyboard and snapdragon. I believe it's gonna be GSM but I could be wrong on that.
edit: http://www.intoandroid.org/new-htc-android-spotted-at-fcc-probable-named-as-wildfire.html
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That's the HTC Scorpian.
Well, it's upgrade time on my contract, and I have narrowed it (quite easily) down to two devices, the Legend and the Desire.
The legend will cost me exactly nothing to upgrade to, and the Desire will cost a little (a lot) more than I can currently afford.
My question is, do I look for a way to afford the Desire or go for the Legend?
Please give your vote and a comment/reason, or suggest a third/fourth.... device instead (X10 was considered and disgarded due to lack of multitouch and because I don't want to be left in the dust with Android 1.6 until september).
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Well, it's upgrade time on my contract, and I have narrowed it (quite easily) down to two devices, the Legend and the Desire.
The legend will cost me exactly nothing to upgrade to, and the Desire will cost a little (a lot) more than I can currently afford.
My question is, do I look for a way to afford the Desire or go for the Legend?
Please give your vote and a comment/reason, or suggest a third/fourth.... device instead (X10 was considered and disgarded due to lack of multitouch and because I don't want to be left in the dust with Android 1.6 until september).
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i would go for the legend
because, 1ghz snapdragon processor, its newer so will be supported longer by htc, better battery life (legends is s***)
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i would go for the legend
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You meant desire, right?
Otherwise there is no sense in your sentence
Well that depends on how much you have to pay for the desire. Let me sum up for you what the desire has and the legend doesn't.
Desire:
Flash support, 1Ghz snapdragon, bigger screen thus resulting in more space for fingers to land in..... higher resolution 480 X 800 WVGA RAM: 576 MB
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Legend
No flash support (well probably it wel get flash from xda members. But according to adobe it won't run smooth on the legend and our hero's)
600Mhz processor, same screen size as hero 320 x 480 HVGA only 384 mb ram
Hope that helps you out a bit.
If you have a hero and you would buy a legend you'd only see some improvement in the speed section, it's probably not fully capable to run future android version (and the desire is since it's able to run flash 10)
If you buy a desire you buy the fastest htc around, with probably more support in later versions.
If I was in your position,... I'd switch to a sim only contract, then wait for something similar to the incredible.
I was planning on getting a desire this month,... but am still happy with my hero (even more now its overclocked).
I reckon I'll be happy for another 3 - 6 months yet. I'd just like a slightly better camera,.... n a hardware keyboard would be nice.
I know, I know,... you could end up waiting forever wanting something slightly better then whats currently on the market to come out.
None of them.
I'm looking forward to devices like the samsung galaxy S, Lumigon t1, Motorola Shadow.
My next device won't be one from HTC.
I'm watching how often HTC is updating their new devices, desire and legend. If they do it better than they do it on hero right now, my device after the next device will be one from HTC again.
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None of them.
I'm looking forward to devices like the samsung galaxy S, Lumigon t1, Motorola Shadow.
My next device won't be one from HTC.
I'm watching how often HTC is updating their new devices, desire and legend. If they do it better than they do it on hero right now, my device after the next device will be one from HTC again.
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None of them wasn't an option, if you don't have anything to do rather then put htc on your blacklist that's you're choice, don't try to decide for others.
And samsung never ever released an update afaik so have fun with your never upgradebla samsung. And I haven't seen motorola giving any updates either.
Stop nagging
If I were you I would go for the Desire, unless another Snapdragon is due to b integrated into devices then you are at least going to get enough time with the latest handset during your contract before you start seeing thinks like 2.2+ render you phone old...
Something with 720p video, a snapdragon cpu and 2.1 shipped, wouldn't go a miss!
I also considered the X10 for the cracking cameras Sony add but like you say the 2.1 update is a a fair bit off, and they haven't even rooted it yet afaik..
I had a quick go on a mates Desire, and its defiantly faster and the bigger screen is nice but I didn't feel it was the amazing leap over the Hero that most people have made it out to be. If there is no rush I would defiantly wait another 6 months to see whats available then. Maybe the 2.2 update will wow me more but thats just my current opinion.
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None of them.
I'm looking forward to devices like the samsung galaxy S, Lumigon t1, Motorola Shadow.
My next device won't be one from HTC.
I'm watching how often HTC is updating their new devices, desire and legend. If they do it better than they do it on hero right now, my device after the next device will be one from HTC again.
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Agree.. + don't forget that htc is using cheap hardware (eg: SoC*, display**), so if you want pure performance go with an ARM Cortex + PowerVR.
* i prefer the arm cortex + power vr combination, even motorola milestone at 550 Mhz is better (thanks to PowerVR) on some tasks than the over hyped snapdragon cpu.
** see the multiple videos that show the multitouch bug, htc is using a cheap dualtouch display ..
I don't trust anymore qualcomm/htc combination. tired of crap performance.
So, my next device will be one with ARM Cortex + PowerVR + a proper multitouch display (eg: such as in motorola milestone). If you want true performance I recommend you this combination.
Neither for me..
The Desire has a pentile AMOLED display that isn't TRUE WVGA (RGB subpixels in one pixel)
Both the Desire and Legend use ClearPad 2000 for their touch screens which do not have proper multitouch support (same problem with N1)
I'd wait a little longer for the next round of FroYo devices
As the title says: what hardware feature would you most want to change or improve in a Galaxy S 2? Vote above, but only 1 selection allowed, as being the enthusiasts we are we'd tick almost everything.
Note that we're assuming GPS/lag wouldn't exist here, and this is purely for hardware. Let's just say it's running stock 3.0 Gingerbread.
And hey, if someone at Samsung happens to glance at this...all the better!
Wifi reception
Not so much a feature, but I'd request that they outsource their software development to another company.
Pentile-less samoled (samoled-2?) screen, gyroscope (and apps which supports it), better speaker (not like new htc nonsense slider WP7 phone, but good ol' loud-as-hell speaker).
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Not so much a feature, but I'd request that they outsource their software development to another company.
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Haha I fully agree. I believe that the sgs right now is a pretty good device that can maybe be improved by extra core and better file system. Its not hardware that needs changing its the software.
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a notification led
My vote goes to battery. Still waiting for the fuel cells that we where promised where the next big thing in 2006. Or was it 2003. Or was it ...
I want my gadgets to be usable for - days. Or longer
Second vote would be speed. Can never get enough of that either. Never had a laptop thats fast enough, never had a desktop thats fast enough. And now that the gadgetfactor of phones have reached ascension, phone not fast enough.
Gah! Why only one choice?
All of the above, minus hardware keyboard and better camera (as for screen, size is ok, though resolution could be improved). + notification LEDs
With that superme hardware but . .. . Software still like this . . . I would not buy it from ss.
I would say audio -- it's amazing that the recording lag on this thing is about 200ms. Add output lag 100ms to that --> makes multitracker software useless (hence there aren't any). One reason I bought SGS was to record song ideas when they came to mind -- guitar, vocs, drum loop. FALE.
TBH: take Desire HD, slap samsung sticker on it, add Swype. Done.
But yeah, working GPS module and camera flash would be lovely, more RAM could be sweet.
The actual camera is amazing as is, if you go to video mode, the 720p recording is beautiful.
The current rear speaker is quite powerful for its size, clarity is nice too, bigger would be bad, if you really need bigger, get some car audio gear installed in your jacket...
As far as battery life goes, since installing Froyo, battery life seems to have gone up. and there's always the 3200mAh aftermarket bat, but if you have enough time to run a battery flat in a day, you surely have a USB port or powerpoint handy all-day.
I think they came close to spot on with hardware(*cough*flash*cough* ), but if more phones come out with Swype, it could be game-over for Samsung...
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Haha I fully agree. I believe that the sgs right now is a pretty good device that can maybe be improved by extra core and better file system. Its not hardware that needs changing its the software.
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They should concerntrate on hardware and let some of the devs here do software, coz there is better expertise and understanding around here.
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They need everything :
1280x720 is probably the next logical step in resolution
4-4.3" display
minimum 1.5 GHz single core or 1 GHz dual core
bare minimum 768 MB of ram, probably even 1GB
either SDXC support or more internal memory
camera flash on all devices
better GPU would be nice, but it's already the fastest so this should not be the priority
make it even slimmer
First of all a good software and better support, and avaiable accesories:
· Dual core 1.5Ghz with better graphics (with real JIT)
· 1 GB ram (REAL)
· 12 MP cam dual (flash-xenon), 1080p video record 60fps continuous autofocus
· Mini HDMI
· 4" to 4.5" SAMOLED 720 resolution
· Extended Battery live (2000mAh)
· 32GB internal memory + 4GB ROM + MicroSD (NO RFS)
· Android 3.0
· Solid construction
· Working GPS
All this in less than 150gr and about 1 cm of thick, 500€, this has much more future that 7" tab!!!!
Coming on summer 2011
BTW if samsung ever wanna buy again its products then have to invest more in Galaxy S support and development.
I should stop saying impossibles for samsung. xD
Id like to see
1. dual gpu/cpu
2. Wifi that works for more than 30 seconds
3. Minimum 1gb ram
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For me, with Voodoo the Galaxy S is powerful enough for me. Obviously that'll change next year, but my own preferences would actually be:
1) Build quality - take some tips from HTC, the Desire and Nexus One look and feel great and are very solidly constructed. My old HTC Hero never needed a case.
2) Battery - I've always noticed, it doesn't matter how many apps I have going in the background or live wallpapers, it's the time spent with the screen turned on that sucks all the juice
3) RAM - increase to 768mb / 1gb and maybe we'll get 512 usable! haha
4) Screen - would love it to be upped to 4.3" while still SAMOLED and pushed up to something like 1024 x 600 or just use regular RGB instead of Pentile RGBG
I wouldn't add any hardware, but I'd add to all the available versions of this phone world-wide the same firmware feature that is present in the Korean version , namely the native "record call" function.
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I wouldn't add any hardware, but I'd add to all the available versions of this phone world-wide the same firmware feature that is present in the Korean version , namely the native "record call" function.
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Oh yeah, should have had that in the poll: Galaxy S hardware and software identical worldwide other than CDMA or GSM bands, so we don't have to have this divide between the US, Canadian, Korean and European/Oceanic roms.
As the title suggests... what will you do?
I want the Titan very much but will hold on and use my Mango HD2 for just a little longer.
Maybe next year. Will wait for all the mango handsets to come. Waiting for Nokia to reveal its phones. Nokia is supposed to have better lens.. Carl Zeiss?? All else being same, a better optics will clinch the deal, I suppose. Waiting for Nokia phones..
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I was tempted but im a bit disapointed that we are only getting the 205 gpu, essentially we are only getting a 500mhz speed bump an a slightly bigger battery. Think I'll wait tbh, im more than happy with the hd2 an wp7, at the very least I may wait until the price drops. Full price for a slightly bigger screen, battery an a 500mhz speed bump, isn't worth it in my opinion
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Seriusly? I don,t know why spend 500 bucks to buy a phone with a little more spec hd2. HD2 is thé kind, si the next prototype in sell from HTC comes in 2020...
I want a device where I can't see the pixels, like on the Iphone. Meaning I'll have to wait for new chassis specs from MS. Also I've often been impressed with the build quality and battery life on Nokia phones, so when I do get a new phone it'll prolly be a Nokia.
I'd expect a s3 snapdragon with a Adreno 220 gpu, not second gen s2 stuff, I mean s4 snapdragons will be out very soon, so effectively the titan will be 2 generations old by time its released! Seems daft if you ask me, perhaps the listed spec is wrong but several sites say its deffiniely an s2
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I was going to get one till i saw its 840x480 still on a bigger screen i mean wtf lol and 1 upgrade from the crap gpu thats in my hd2 right now and all for £500 probly here sim free in the uk. No thanks
Im waiting on a phone from htc thats got dule core cpu a good gpu and higher rez screen then i will be willing to spend £500 on a windows phone until that day i will stick with my hd2. i just hope one day someone comes along and fixes the bug with the battery drain
i think im sticking with my hd2 seeing as my contact doesnt end till april, but hopefully by then i will be able to get a dual core with 1080p video
dont expect too much from Nokia Carl Zeiss
Hey man, I've had Nokia N73 N95 and Nokia N95 8Gb, and let me tell you that I love by far the pictures taken with our HTC HD2 with Windows 6.5 with WP7 still being not so good you know... but really the Carl Zeiss lens in Nokia NSeries isn't so good as marketing says .... lets wait for new models with WP7 but I really think that HTC is a better brand ....
I have my HTC HD2 now for 2 year and the material that is made is really fantastic, until now the metal still being like new from factory the display the same... maybe some scratches after 2 years on buttons... and the experience with Nokia mobile phones is really the opposite, I had this Nokia N95 two years and the battery is fat you now like blowed not working anymore, needed to buy new one and the cases are like chinnesse plastic soo BAD !!! I needed to change my cases 2 times in 2 years .... soooo really HTC has shown soo good battery life itself and so good cases life.....sooo In my opinion I wont change to any other brand HTC !for me until now has been almost the perfect mobile phone
Grettings .....
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Maybe next year. Will wait for all the mango handsets to come. Waiting for Nokia to reveal its phones. Nokia is supposed to have better lens.. Carl Zeiss?? All else being same, a better optics will clinch the deal, I suppose. Waiting for Nokia phones..
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Hey man, I've had Nokia N73 N95 and Nokia N95 8Gb, and let me tell you that I love by far the pictures taken with our HTC HD2 with Windows 6.5 with WP7 still being not so good you know... but really the Carl Zeiss lens in Nokia NSeries isn't so good as marketing says .... lets wait for new models with WP7 but I really think that HTC is a better brand ....
I have my HTC HD2 now for 2 year and the material that is made is really fantastic, until now the metal still being like new from factory the display the same... maybe some scratches after 2 years on buttons... and the experience with Nokia mobile phones is really the opposite, I had this Nokia N95 two years and the battery is fat you now like blowed not working anymore, needed to buy new one and the cases are like chinnesse plastic soo BAD !!! I needed to change my cases 2 times in 2 years .... soooo really HTC has shown soo good battery life itself and so good cases life.....sooo In my opinion I wont change to any other brand HTC !for me until now has been almost the perfect mobile phone
Grettings .....
Very interetsted in the Titan, like the idea of 1.5GHz CPU and bigger screen. Also native WP7 support would be good. Not sure about soft buttons though, heard bad things about them.
Definitely interested to see what Nokia can do. My first smartphone was a Nokia 9110 back in 1998. Would love to see a modern day offering from Nokia - they've done some great hardware.
But do we really need a dual core CPU which will just eat into battery life? Surely a 1ghz processor is more than enough to run WP7 (HD2 is proof) so a 1.5Ghz single core is more than plenty. Also again surely 480x800 is plenty (HD2 is proof) and YouTube reviewers of Titan said you can't see pixels on the 4.7" display. We don't need to be able to play 720p videos on our screens as the resolution is only WVGA remember.
So, I think the Titan is a great upgrade. Bigger screen, thinner, faster, WiFi tethering, better camera, front facing camera, better sound (5.1) etc.
I paid £500 for my sim free HD2 on launch date. I am tempted to sell it and put money towards Titan.
The only thing I dislike about the Titan is the double edge bezel design above the screen. Its horrible and does not match the bottom of the phone and thus spoils
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But do we really need a dual core CPU which will just eat into battery life? Surely a 1ghz processor is more than enough to run WP7 (HD2 is proof) so a 1.5Ghz single core is more than plenty. Also again surely 480x800 is plenty (HD2 is proof) and YouTube reviewers of Titan said you can't see pixels on the 4.7" display. We don't need to be able to play 720p videos on our screens as the resolution is only WVGA remember.
So, I think the Titan is a great upgrade. Bigger screen, thinner, faster, WiFi tethering, better camera, front facing camera, better sound (5.1) etc.
I paid £500 for my sim free HD2 on launch date. I am tempted to sell it and put money towards Titan.
The only thing I dislike about the Titan is the double edge bezel design above the screen. Its horrible and does not match the bottom of the phone and thus spoils
the look.
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Bigger screen isnt better, its larger, and may suite some folk an not others, i wouldnt shell out 500 on half an inch
Your right about the dual core, we dont even know how WP could deal with such a thing, but what is missing from the S2 Snapdragons is the GPU/memory the Adreno 220 is between 100% to 400% faster than the S2 Adreno 205 which is slightly faster than the Adreno 200 we have, there is also the memory and power consumption improvments.
Shelling out 500 on a device that is 2 generations obsolete before it even hits the shelves (S4 on its way which also comes in single, dual and quad core an over x16 improvment in speed over our HD2 and significant battery drainage reduction) sounds more like HTC trying to clear Snapdragon S2 stock rather than provide us with a new device, we would be getting a minimal improvment over the HD2.
Its like me trying to sell you today a 3GHz Intel Prescott CPU for the full ~£300 it cost AS NEW ~6/7 years ago, "But its new, its never been used before so why wouldnt you pay that price? it is after all faster than a ATOM CPU?"
Where did you get this 5.1 sound business? i didnt see HDMI output on the spec, just curious,
Its 1.1mm thiner, 10mm Longer and 3.6 mm wider and a few grams heaver, 1.1mm thiner isnt much to shell out 500 quid on
Some good valid points. As for the 5.1 reference, this is taken straight from HTC's site.
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Also again surely 480x800 is plenty (HD2 is proof) and YouTube reviewers of Titan said you can't see pixels on the 4.7" display. We don't need to be able to play 720p videos on our screens as the resolution is only WVGA remember.
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I don't believe that. I can clearly see the pixels on my HD2, so why wouldn't I be able to see them on a device with an even lower PPI?
EDIT: Also, I actually don't think it's dual core.
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Some good valid points. As for the 5.1 reference, this is taken straight from HTC's site.
Multimedia
See photos from your camera, Facebook and Windows Live™ accounts in the Pictures hub
Music and Videos Hub powered by Zune lets you listen to radio, download music, and more
SRS enhancement
5.1 surround sound for video
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curious, as far as i am aware Bluetooth doesnt transmit 5.1, a 3.5mm Jack sure as hell cant, perhaps there is some sort of USB pass through
I wonder what exactly they mean.
Hagenlund said:
I don't believe that. I can clearly see the pixels on my HD2, so why wouldn't I be able to see them on a device with an even lower PPI?
EDIT: Also, I actually don't think it's dual core.
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Hmm, im not sure, as far as i know The world of PPI,DPI Dot Pitch can get quite confusing, especially without all the facts.
by having a set resolution over a larger screen would decrease the outputed PPI
however the screen may have a significantly higher DPI and with some clever use of interpolation and Dithering may "hide" that, it also depends on distance from the screen, generally speaking the larger the screen the further away you are from it, if i get close enough to a Iphone 4 i will see them. if i hold an iphone at arms length you will not beable to see the difference between an HD2 and iPhone. Theres lots of variables including your own eyes so dont count it out until you see it.
Sure, HTC may be using some kind of tricks to mask the low DPI of the Titan. But I haven't seen the device IRL so I wouldn't know about that.
No-one holds the device an arm's length away, though. Hold an Iphone and an HD2 at a comfortable distance, and the difference in PPI will be very visible, assuming you have average eyesight.
madhivanan said:
Maybe next year. Will wait for all the mango handsets to come. Waiting for Nokia to reveal its phones. Nokia is supposed to have better lens.. Carl Zeiss?? All else being same, a better optics will clinch the deal, I suppose. Waiting for Nokia phones..
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exactly what he said. No need for swap yet...
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Sure, HTC may be using some kind of tricks to mask the low DPI of the Titan. But I haven't seen the device IRL so I wouldn't know about that.
No-one holds the device an arm's length away, though. Hold an Iphone and an HD2 at a comfortable distance, and the difference in PPI will be very visible, assuming you have average eyesight.
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well i have certified perfect eye sight i can cant see a difference at a comfortable distance, most people hold phones and books far too close to their eyes and do not even know it, it places a lot of strain on them which isnt good for you.
what i can see is that on SOME specific types of pictures it does display colour banding.
Go sit 6 inches from your TV screen and see how long you can last before you get a headache
anyhow, point is, the PPI on the device is a mute point until you can actually see it. Still wouldnt consider getting it as new just yet, not worth the cash for a small upgrade, and i think the half inch extra screen is a waste too, HD2 is plenty large enough.