http://www.bell.ca/shopping/HTC-Touch-Dual/67331.details
I dont understand. Are they using 3G connection to navigate?
'cause in Canada the Touch Dual is a Niki400, not a Niki100
i believe it has a different rf chip and an antenna for gps
I will check this!!!
GPS isnt GPS ... if it use A-GPS then its possible to enable of Niki and Neon too. But Prove of concept only work with a picture of the main board with all antennas inside!
It is a real GPS and I use it with different applications. One of them can identfy and show the number of satellites available.
Damn it's cdma... no GSM
kitzu said:
It is a real GPS and I use it with different applications. One of them can identfy and show the number of satellites available.
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What applications do you use?
Activate GPS on HTC Touch Dual (Bell Moblility NEON400)
Is there built in GPS in HTC Touch Dual from Bell Mobility? No you say? Think again!!
CNET ASIA was probably talking about the GSM version of the HTC Touch Dual, however the HTC website also makes no mention of this capability.
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39051199,42048146p,00.htm
http://www.htc.com/ca/product/touchdualbell/specification.html
Model No: NEON400
Platform: PocketPC
CPU: Qualcomm 7501A - (MSM7501A-528MHz)
ROM version: 1.04.666.8
ROM Date: 07/26/08
Radio version: 0.99.95V
Hardware Version: 0080
OS: Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional CE OS 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
HOW TO ACTIVATE GOOGLE MAPS ON YOUR BELL MOBILITY 1XEV HTC TOUCH DUAL and USE THE BUILT IN GPS
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1) Enable the GPS: START:SETTINGSERSONALHONE:SERVICES:LOCATION SETTING:GET SETTINGS:ON
2) Install Microsoft Active Sync (From the CD that came with the phone) and configure as follows:
FILE:CONNECTION SETTINGS:ALLOW USB CONNECTIONS=>CHECK/ (yes)
THIS COMPUTER IS CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET/ (yes)
OPEN ACTIVE SYNC WHEN MY DEVICE CONNECTS/ (yes)
ALLOW WIRELESS CONNECTION ON DEVICE WHEN CONNECTED To DESKTOP => UNCHECK (in other words, no. Big money saving tip here)
3) Connect the Touch Dual to the PC using the USB Data Cable and let it be installed by Windows (e.g. Allow USB enumeration sequence to complete)
4) START:SETTINGS:CONNECTIONS:USB TO PC:ACTIVE SYNC:ENABLE ADVANCED NETWORK => UNCHECK
5) START:INTERNET EXPLORER => m.google.com/maps (click on download link)
6) Download and install Google Maps (hint select "open" after selecting to download Google maps)
7) Get out in the open sky, or at least on the top floor of your house but keep the laptop connected to the HTC Touch Dual for now (and also keep it connected to the internet)
8) START:SETTINGS:SYSTEM:EXTERNAL GPSROGRAMS:GPS PROGRAM PORT:COM 3 4800
9) START:SETTINGS:SYSTEM:EXTERNAL GPS:HARDWARE:GPS HARDWARE PORT:NONE
10) START:SETTINGS:SYSTEM:EXTERNAL GPS:ACESS:Manage GPS Automatically => CHECKED
11) In Google Maps: MENU:USE GPS also MENU:OPTIONS:GPS SETTINGS:COM 3 4800
You will see Google Maps get a global position lock, and plot your position on the map. VERY COOL!!!!
Now you can disconnect from the USB Cable and the map will update automatically as you move around (Using your wireless data connection of course - cha ching!)
Handy tips:
a) Instead of downloading the CAB files to your smart phone which is a PITA to type the URLs, instead download them to your laptop then use the file explorer in Active Sync to drop them into your "My Documents" folder on the phone. Then double click from the phone on the CAB file to install it.
b) Don't forget to delete the CAB file from My Documents after the install to free up precious room.
c) Possibly avoid applications that require you to update dotNET framework. It is humungaloid and updating it might mess up your ROM. Install them and if they complain about dot net uninstall them. (IMHO, your mileage may vary)
d) TurboGPS is a good app for checking if the GPS is working and seeing the satellites in real time and space, and also for recording your track and making KML files to put into Google Earth later:
www.turboirc.com/tgps/
e) This seems to be an excellent website for application software for this and related (by OS) SmartPhones. For example here is a search of that site for GPS apps sorted by rating:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-gps-1-rating.html
Oh baby...oh baby...oh baby...oh
Using GPS as in the last post, ISN'T using GPS. Google maps is one of the only apps that triangulates your "approximate" position through your wireless connection. The app has to support that function though based on where you are as not every tower has the necessary hardware to provide the needed information to the Google application. I haven't seen anyone satisfactoraly describe what a-GPS is so... it means that whether there is an internal or external GPS radio, the GPS positioning is "assisted" by the phone being triangulated through the network/towers. It only really comes into play when GPS signal is very weak (and is almost always transparent to the user). The overseas Dual (Niki 100) does not have built-in GPS. The US version of the Dual (Neon 300) does not have built-in GPS. Not sure about the 400 (Nike 400 or Neon 400?). I've never heard of the Nike 400, but I have heard of the Neon 400 which did have built-in GPS. Hope this helps...
I have confirmed that this works with my Neon400 CDMA for real GPS, NOT ASSISTED GPS as posted by dezurita.
I used com4 (personal preference I guess)
I have my Baud Rate set to 9600 (step 11 suggests 4800). I haven't confirmed that this works any better or worse
I did not need to do step 4
A fix to step 8 though is there is no baud setting on that page
On a side note; Since I'm using Windows Vista, I don't use ActiveSync... I use Windows Mobile Device Center.
You can make the same settings as step 2 by opening up the WMDC -> Mobile Device Settings -> Connection Settings
im trying this on my Neon400 but so far is unsuccessfully, maybe im doing this wrong some how....
in Google maps-Menu-GPS settings do i have to set Set manually or managed by windows?
thanks.
Use Turbo GPS to see satellite status
Hi Stutunaru,
Use turbogps to see the satellite status. That way you can be certain that you are getting actual satellite data.
For google maps, (and everything else) use the "managed by windows" setting for the GPS data.
MENU:OPTIONS:GPS SETTINGS:MANAGED BY WINDOWS
My previous step 11 was incorrect. My bad.
Hi Dezurita,
Ditto
Hi Glotsapot,
You are correct. The corrected step 8 is:
START:SETTINGS:SYSTEM:EXTERNAL GPSROGRAMS:GPS PROGRAM PORT:COM 3:HARDWARE:GPS HARDWARE PORT NONE: BAUD: 4800
However, I don't think this step is even required unless you have an external GPS device. So step 8 may be skipped altegether since the HTC TOUCH DUAL has an internal GPS Radio Rxcvr.
Regarding setp 4. I use Active Sync to get info from Google Maps like bus schedules or guide info, or the location of all my buddies on latitude, or to update my location on latitude. Then I disconnect from the web (unplug the USB cable from my PC and break the Active Sync connection). Actually I have pretty much stopped using Google maps now except latitude, since to be really helpful it requires a full time internet connection.
Instead, I have installed Garmin XT along witht he NA 2010 North America City Navigator map set. (I bought an 8GB Micro SD card from FS for $25 to store the maps). Also you can download speed camera data from Trapster.com.
This is a serious killer app. And NO SERVICE CHARGES for turn-by-turn directions. Typing letters on the Garmin works with your fingers if in landscape display mode.
Oh baby! oh baby! oh baby! oh!
My only regret is no Wi-Fi. If I had Wi-Fi I could update Latitude whenever in Wi-Fi range - for free. I hate to be so friggin' cheap, but that is what I do best.
Oh, and a full querty keyboard. That would be nice. So if I was to do it over, I would probably get HTC Touch Diamond (for Wi-Fi and virtual keyboard) or the HTC Touch Pro with the full physical qwerty keyboard. But I would buy only after I install Turbo GPS and confirm I can see the satellites. (ie Confirm that the GPS Rxcvr has not been artificially cripppled)
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Has anyone got the Google maps 'my location' feature to work on their Atom Life?
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i had a HP IPAQ HW6945 with built in internal GPS module, i had dowload the google map directly to it via GPRS, the question is that the site ask me about my device, i enter it correctly then i found in the menu tab "locate me", i tab it and i found a blue spot on the screen then i realies that it locate me exacly where i was standing ,
i had now an Atom EXEC that doesn't had a built in GPS , but i think you must download the proper google map of your device and be awear to properly configure your GPS settings.
a review on google site shows that there is some work to do to make location finder work not only via GPS but also through your neerest location of a Signal Antena of your network provider, WIFI hotspot. but this is under test till now
I am interested in this subject as well.
I am using an Atom Life in Los Angeles and have the latest version of Google Maps (2.0.1.18).
My location is not available according to the phone. There has to be a hack or a tweak to get this to work since it works on every other WM phone I've tried.
I don't believe the issue has anything to do with Google Maps support for a particular device.
Case in point: I run the HP RW6828 with Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro (PDAViet ROM v 2.03.03, CE OS build 5.2.19400) with the latest radio stack (v R060822N_MN1ARC_RS00052) and Google Maps Location feature doesn't work on my device.
Happy to be proven wrong!
Ok so I've made a bit of progress.
See here for a very minor success:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398839
Hey all, Thanks in advance for helping me out here.
I bought the X1 about 4 months ago, not knowing at all that it had a built in GPS in it lol I only discovered yesterday. so anyway, when I start google maps, and connect to the internet, and press on Use GPS, it shows that it's looking for GPS satellites, but it's always (0). it never finds one. now I've been told to use TomTom 7, with all the configurations for using it with the COM number and all that. I'm wondering if any of u would be kind enough to guide me through using my XPERIA'S GPS?? I would really appreciate it!!!
Hi,
Did you add an external GPS device at any time?
Make any changes to the settings for GPS in control panel at all?
Generally speaking, when you turn on google maps and select use GPS you should, after a short period, see the sats picked up (4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8).
If you have an unlimited data contract, using google maps in the UK shouldn't be an issue.
TomTom 6 or 7 are probably better though. You may need to configure tomtom to use the internal GPS.
However, check your settings in the first place to make sure you have the tick in the windows management of your gps device as that should make things work with little configuration.
Click Start -> Settings -> System Tab -> External GPS -> Access for that.
Make sure you have also run Quick GPS to update your location details.
You may also wish to run the SonyEricsson update utility to upgrade your ROM/Software on the device.
Des. . .
You may also wanna download Nadavi_HTC_GPS_TOOL.cab (search the forum).
It does help you to get a first fix, as you can start with diffrent options, e.g. with reset cache.
Maybe stupid q: did u use G. Maps outside (with open sky above)?
Same as me... but when you use GPS out of our building or house, you will pick up GPS very easily.
thanks!
hey guys! thanks for your help! well, I did some modifications on the external GPS thing, but then i installed that program, that allowed me to use it. i think it made automatic configurations or something. well, I don't have the internet contract, that's why I'm looking for a GPS application that will download the maps and never use internet again for GPS! any ideas? other than tomtom maybe? but anyway, you did some amazing work! thanks alot!!!
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Hello every one ,
Am a new member to this and last week I bought (HTC touch 3G) phone online it came from china
New but I notice that the GPS & wifi not working good and by the way there is no quick GPS application It look deferent applications than normal also when I checked the serial number it said its not valid with www.HTC.com , The device information are
PDA version V03.04.00
PDA Build s0906020941(1.18.....)_BV
Stack version v02.42
Stack build May 16 2009
Radio version 1.3
Radio package 2.2
I need your help
Thanks in advance
It might be a fake! see-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525336
Found 100% fix
goto http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?njyzllmlzmw download it no more orange unique just htc took me just 15 mins should work on the fack htc touch 3g's to
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kaly45 said:
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Hello every one ,
Am a new member to this and last week I bought (HTC touch 3G) phone online it came from china
New but I notice that the GPS & wifi not working good and by the way there is no quick GPS application It look deferent applications than normal also when I checked the serial number it said its not valid with www.HTC.com , The device information are
PDA version V03.04.00
PDA Build s0906020941(1.18.....)_BV
Stack version v02.42
Stack build May 16 2009
Radio version 1.3
Radio package 2.2
I need your help
Thanks in advance
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Most PDA GPS's do not turn on automatically by themselves unless instructed or invoked by a software application. I have not looked carefully at my Jade clone's SIRF's specifications but most GPS under ideal situations can take as little as 42 seconds when warmed up to get four satellites to lock on to. Four satellites are necessary in most sytems are necessary for 3D satellite navigation (satnav or GPS).
What are ideal situations? Glad you asked. Basically, one of the most critical needs for a GPS is accurate time. This is the first item that must be sync'ed by satellites. To use a gross example, let's say your clock is off 60 minutes. In a car that could equate to roughly 60 miles. Satellites need accurate time because when they begin to sync, they will compute what satellites are available to sync with your GPS. Just like the sun, moon and stars are only in the sky at moving intervals of time, only a fixed amount of satellites are overhead at any given time.
Once your GPS begins to sync, ephemeris data (which satellites and the times they are overhead) is transmitted to your GPS. When combined with accurate time, the resolution of where your receiving GPS becomes easier.
The next critical issue is where does your GPS think it is. If the GPS was last turned on at the factory (testing), then it will store that location as its last known position. Guess what? If you're in Paris, France and your GPS was made in Malaysia, your last known position known now as initial positon to the satellites will tell them based upon time to use satellites in the Asian area to compute your satnav position. A GPS without a good initial position will make it difficult for satellites to accurately determine your location which could now takes a minimum of four minutes as long as ten minutes and maybe even hours.
Finally, where is your GPS physically located? In ideal conditions, it is outside with clear sky overhead in a stationary location. It's easier to shoot a sitting duck; a moving target or a GPS on the go complicates all the issues of time, location and signal acquisiton.
To help you, I recommend you download a small cab file that be used in your Today screen. It is aptly called "GPS Toggle". In essence, like a mechanic warming up your car prior to you driving it on a cold day, this plug-in "warms up" your GPS for you prior to needing it.
There is one thing you need to do to help your GPS - it is best for WM to manage it (a recommended feature from Microsoft). Go to the Settings tab, External GPS (why it is called that on my Settings tab is beyond me). Then click through the screens to have WM manage the GPS. On one tab you will asked to choose a Port from which all your programs will access data. You need to use an unused Port. I recommend Port 9 but that is up to you.
The reason for doing this is if WM manages the data, it will keep the GPS on and provide the resolved info to all applications. If the programs managed the GPS, they could selectively turn on and off the GPS and also block each other from using the GPS. You don't want that to happen. That is why MS recommends WM manage the data.
GPS toggle, when installed on your Today screen, will have an ON/OFF switch. When you turn it on, it will on the same line tell you how many satellites it has found and when it has sync'ed with them. When you see that four satellites are in the green (meaning your GPS is found ready for 3D satnav), then you can use satnav program of your choice.
The GPS uses battery power and supposedly is a big drain on smartphones. You want to turn it off and on only as necessary. Hope this helps (it's sticky stuff good info)!
GPS Toggle download link: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gps-toggle.html
Brookse567 said:
goto http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?njyzllmlzmw download it no more orange unique just htc took me just 15 mins should work on the fack htc touch 3g's to
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Have tried to download - unable to open (as .php) - do I simply put the file in custom_ruu folder to then flash to the phone?
Thanks in anticipation
It might be a fake.
Open the Settings tab, go to "System" and look for "Device information". The CPU must be Qualcomm MSM 7225 and the full model name should be Touch 3G T3232. If not, it's a fake.
Thanks digsf.
Checked the phone and it would appear to be legit (just as well as it came direct from Orange UK)
It is frustrating that everyone else seems to be getting the roms to work, but for some reason i can't get them to do so - i must still be doing something wrong....
pmbb said:
Thanks digsf.
Checked the phone and it would appear to be legit (just as well as it came direct from Orange UK)
It is frustrating that everyone else seems to be getting the roms to work, but for some reason i can't get them to do so - i must still be doing something wrong....
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You might be in the wrong thread. And although you probably have already visited these links and threads, I will recommend them to you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406 Jade Flashing Guide for NOOBS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465 Jade / Touch 3G Hard-SPL Unlocker
And here is where you might get mileage from your post/question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534581 All jade questions & answers here pls
And this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4336142&postcount=3
Good luck!
Cloned HTC Touch 3G
I went through the posts - I guess even I have landed up with a cloned HTC Touch 3G. Wonder what the drawbacks are. Somehow after a lot of tinkering I have been able to get my GPS to work (yes it has a built in GPS antenna) and it's accurate!
I set the hardware to COM 3, baud rate 4800
application to COM 0
In Google maps>options>GPS settings>manual settings (COM0 baud rate 4800)
IT WORKED!!
The WiFi can't be turned on with TouchFlo. Anybody has a solution to that?
Hi all,
I didnt want to start a new thread, but after searching the forums and google for a long time, i decided to bring it up
So ive had my HD2 for about 2 days now, and I recently installed GarminXT (I used to have it on my Nokia N82)
the problem i'm finding is that the GPS doesnt lock as fast as i thought it would be..
GarminXT has not been locking on (little over 5 minutes now)
I'm a noob to Windows Mobile and HTC so please bear with me!
1. How do i know A-GPS is working? Is it automatically enabled? (This wasnt the case for Nokia as you could manually turn off A-GPS and use strictly GPS signal). Under Location settings i have "Location Service Settings" = ON
and HTC Location Service = ON
2. Im still not 100% sure what QuickGPS does. I've read about it , but all i concluded was that it uses your data to get a faster GPS lock.
So i tried running QuickGPS and it updates no problem.
I open GarminXT and it doesnt lock on. Do i need to use this?
3. Can someone tell me if these are the optimal GPS settings? I kept searching around the forum but cant find one specific to the HD2.
So under "All Settings" > System > External GPS
Programs Tab > GPS Program Port = COM4
Hardware Tab > GPS Hardware Port = None > Baud rate = 4800
Access Tab > Managa GPS Auto = Checked
Are these settings correct? Or are there "tweaks" to it that I can change?
4. One last question:
Under GarminXT, i have the ability to choose 3 GPS options:
"Use Bluetooth GPS"
"Use GPS Intermediate Driver" = Checked
"Use Serial GPS" > Once selected, i get 4 other options to choose:
COM1: Bluetooth Serial Port
COM2: Bluetooth Serial Port
COM4: COM4:
COM9: 7500 COM port
Does anyone know if i should be checked on "Use GPS Intermediate Driver" or if i should be checking off "Serial GPS" > COM 4?
This is my first WinMo device with a data plan (I'm on EDGE speeds cause I'm in Canada), but I always had the impression AGPS would really help the lock times.
Anyone with help would be GREATLY appreciated!
Again, loving the new HD2
Thanks
For GarminXT, use intermediate driver.
For Google maps, use Com4, 4800 rate, that enables use of the compass.
Quick GPS should increase startup, and so far I had all fixes on HD2 under 30 seconds, and I did not change anything.
Normally GPS would download information about orbits of satellites from the satellites. That can take time, as it is one way communication and GPS can't ask satellite to send data again in case of error, it must wait untill the satellite starts sending them again by itself.
It is much faster to get that data via network .. and that is exactly what QuickGPS is for. Problem is that at least on my previous X1 there were many problems with it. The data from network was sometimes completely wrong, and you had to delete the file manually. That information is in temp\xtra.bin. Try to delete it and try again. QuickGPS does not test existence of the file, it will download new one in predefined time.
I'm still a bit confused about aGPS. I'm not sure what it is. Some people state it is the same thing as QuickGPS. Some say it is something to get quick basic fix based on BTS. But I haven't seen that in any application, except Google maps, and they seem to use their own technology and data for that.
But AFAIK, those 'location services' is generally Google's 'my location' exposed for other HTC applications.
I set it on max rate, do i do a mistake? I think that this is setting the speed or Im wrong?! Im connecting with sattelites below 15sec, with no other tweaks or quickgps...
^^
what's "max rate"?
btw, thanks for the replies
i'll look into deleting the cache file for QuickGPS and see if it does anything
Quick GPS allows you to download a weeks worth of GPS satellite position data (almanac data) at one time, helpful if for example you don't have a data plan - you can get your A-GPS data in one hit over WiFi. It helps speed lock time.
Not sure what is happening with yours, mine always locks in Garmin within 7-15 seconds, I have Quick GPS set to autoupdate, but otherwise no special tweaks or modifications where GPS is concerned.
Same here - in fact, the HD2's locking faster to GPS than my Touch HD ever did. I'm getting locks in the garage now whereas before I had none with my Touch HD. Haven't touched the default WM GPS settings or the Garmin one at all since I upgraded to the HD2.
GPs lover-Google map hater
Hi guys, firstly thanks for this thread as i too look for answer...and find some only here
i had the Diamond and now the HD2 and share the love.
Garmin maps are much more accurate and have even the smallest unpaved roads which Google map lacks. Google is so basic maps, i simply hate it...sorry Google...not to mention that it cost money to be online all the time
HD2 GPS confuse me. Sorry if I ask u basic staff but could not figure it up myself:
1. using the GPS w/google map, how u set simple setting, as: "north up" or ""track up" Route setting such as "faster time" or any other basic settings that I always had on my Garmin GPS including Garmin mobile XT?
2. What happend to voice navigation wiith google?
3. Reading your info, does it means that I can install Garmin mobile XT I got with Diamond on HD2 ?
4. Anybody know TomTom for HD2 (which I will get shotly from HTC?
I trust someone out here is smarter than me and will come to rescue
hey guys,
my HD2 is fine now, usually i just do a QuickGPS connect before opening Garmin XT and now it connects SUPER fast...usually under 10 seconds
Thanks for all the help!!
Google is not, and does not set out to be a full satellite navigation prpgram, so it doesn't have stuff such as 'North Up', 'Track Up' etc, nor does it have spoken directions.
For these you need a dedicated SatNav program like Garmin, TomTom, CoPilot or iGO8 which are all 'paid-for' applications.
TomTom will run fine but TomTom don't officially support it, meaning you can't download the correct vesion direct from their website. There are easy ways around this though!
With regard to some of the earlier posts- the HD2 can aquire a fix faster than any other device I've used (and I've used a lot!). I find QuickGPS makes very little difference, but as it uses only a small amaount of data I keep it updated.
QuickGPS and A-GPS are not the same thing, though there are quite a few different definitions of A-GPS. Genuine A-GPS is not used in UK, nor as far as I know anywhere else in Europe except by dedicated programs and platforms set up with the infrastructure (such as Apple, who use it to enhance the poor performance of the iPhone's GPS chip). It is used in the Far East, and works by enhancing your accuracy of positioning by using the data channels to send your current cell ID plus any other availble stuff like WiFi hotspot info, which is correlated to a database of locations, and sent back as an approximate position to the phone. Google Maps uses something like this if a GPS signal is not available- the 'Locate Me' feature will show you in a radius of around 1km.
The Baud rate makes no ostensible difference to the lock times or accuracy, as the data stream from the satellites is far lower than even the lowest baud rate. The NMEA default is 4800, and most software is happy to connect at that rate.
The google maps GPS finds me within 80 metres.. that's not accurate right? cause it puts it on wrong street technically.. When I first got it it did 800 metres =/
WOW, that was fast, thank you NeilM.
I will get Tomtom for free from HTC as it is included with Thai purchaded HD2.
Meanwhile I will try to load Garmin XT that I got with My Diamond at the time, let's see if the activation works...
As for Goole, well, I get 60 meter accuracy at the best, that make ones totaly lost in a city and for sure miss a turn, what a pity.
Thanks again for ever so fast reply.
When Google Maps is started it is finding your position throught the carrier's network and that is why it is not acurate at all. There is an option however, named "Use the GPS" in goolge maps and it becomes as acurate as any other navigation software It just have to engage an GPS lock as the others so do not blame google on this one Hence, you are not using the GPS when you get the inacurate positioning For the maps however you still have to be online But if you pay for your Garmin, iGo maps it would be that expensive and you can use it wherever you are ...
You absolutly right. i did use the "use gps" and it's accurate. The thing is that as heavy GPS user the lack of detailed info on google maps, and the inability to set the maps at your convinient (such as "track up" for example) it's nearly a secure way to go crazy while nevigating, specially off road...try to tilt your head to understand your position in real time when you turning and turning. Thanks for the gps tip.
I agree. Curent version of Google Maps is not suitable for navigation while driving indeed! It can help you get orientated sometimes or if you are looking for something big iGo and Garmin are in a whole new league of navigation sofware for now. However, the new version of Google Maps should be at least as good as the others but it is only available for Android at the moment and I dont see it coming to WM any time soon so we will have to stick to iGo, Garmin, TomTom and the others. I'm not using Google Maps for navigation at all by the way so It wouldn't be so difficult for me )
ragelord said:
the new version of Google Maps should be at least as good as the others but it is only available for Android at the moment and I dont see it coming to WM
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It's called google navigation, not google maps - and it seems to kill every GPS program available today (thank god).
hey guys,
on the same topic, but different nav software. i use iGO 8, can someone please tell me what the optimal setting are for port and baud rate? i did the auto-detect and the signal is a little on/off.
also... is there a way to get iGO 8 to use the HD2s compass? i like the stand-alone compass of the HD2, but i think it would be swell to be able to have iGO's compass function working aswell.
sorry if this has been discussed before, if there is another thread i should be reading... please direct me there.
thanks for all your help.
cheers.
conscept said:
The google maps GPS finds me within 80 metres.. that's not accurate right? cause it puts it on wrong street technically.. When I first got it it did 800 metres =/
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Eh, if I'm not wrong, that's agps at work.
It'll find you with the nearest base station. then slowly try to triangulate you. Normally, you'll be in an area with only 1 base station, so there's not much triangulation going on.
When I'm in city, it's pretty accurate. I get my approx distance within a couple of seconds, wait another 10 - 20 secs to get gps fix.
A-Gps and other things
A-GPS is just one thing: Assisted GPS. It is a toggle-- when you toggle it on, in your phone's settings, you will get the locational assistance of the cell towers. That is the towers them selves, two or more towers and your phone triangulate to give an approximation of your location. GPS also uses triangulation (derived from simple trigonometry equations) to determine your location and is much more accurate. In fact it can be ever more accurate as your device locks onto more satellites. I have found that the best thing to do is to turn off A-GPS. I don't know what it is but Googlemaps seems to have a terrible time locking onto satellites on Windows Mobile. But I have found, especially on Android 1.6 and above you get very rapid locks so long as you wipe out the telenav program. I strongly suspect that Google is undermining Windows Mobile in favor of supporting their Android system. They have turn by turn for Android but not for Windows Mobile and it seems like they are also building it not to lock sats nearly as well. You can force it to get moving by pre opening the GPS or other methods just prior to running google maps.
I think everyone should write google and tell them to fully support Windows Mobile (Phone)... T-Mobile is just about set to come out with the HTC HD2 in about a week (March 24th) and I intend to get one. I am not happy that it doesn't have a physical keyboard cloned from the Touch Pro 2, but I expect to like most of the rest of it.
Turning Location on is another thing. You are henceforth allowing all applications to know and your location. this can be helpful but it can also be a potential privacy risk. Of course it's easy to turn off and on. You might want to read the fine print.
Actually, I have a more basic question. Is there a soft "switch" or software application to actually turn the GPS on? On my HD2 I have a few GPS apps and all of them report the GPS being on or "no GPS Device found". Even Goggle maps, if I siwtch to USE GPS mode, keeps endlessly waiting for a GPS signal and then nothing happens. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks much
Gps htc hd2
In my experience with windows mobiles and internal gps, manage gps automatically is best and no ports should be assigned at all unless using bluetooth gps receiver! Also, sounds crazy too many but no every location on this big earth is withing available to public gps devices gps satelite paths (satelites going around the earth!) Make sure your outside the house or flat before thinking your gps ain't picking up. My hd2 is fast, my old mda3 was too and worked better inside but thats down to i was living in a different location at the time and at an higher altitude i would say. 1 of many other reasons could be that the military could be using the sat at the time which would render it unavail to public (offline)!
Hi, What do I need for my blackstone in order to use any (suggestions, which is better, would be a great help) GPS sowtware without internet connection. I am not an expert in this, but I know that GPS devices (like tom tom or similar) use satellite data to show coordinates. How can this be done on my touch hd? As only preinstalled program is google maps that require internet connection.
I don't have unlimited data plan, so this is extremely expensive for me, but I am a fan of geocatching, so I need GPS.
Please help me with description of how this GPS works and what soft should I use?
Thanks
There are lots of good Navigation/GPS Apps around that read standalone maps from your SDCard.
Take your pick.
Some info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566657
bethybabes69 said:
There are lots of good Navigation/GPS Apps around that read standalone maps from your SDCard.
Take your pick.
Some info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566657
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Hi, thank for the info, but....
I installed TT7 with my region maps, but I still seem not to receive any GPS signal - my phone seems not to catch any satellite signal - is this a setting issue?
in tomtom7, just access the gps settings and set them to "internal gps receiver", then it should work immediately, given that in your very location you have gps coverage.
I've found that my Touch HD's GPS capabilities work great when I'm at home testing them, then fails to locate any satellites when I'm lost! lol
Not exactly true - but has got me before!
I would suggest that you try your GPS in various locations just to make sure that the building you live / work in, or the weather isn't blocking the signal that your phones GPS listens for...
I used TomTom for ages without issue, it can be copied directly from a memory card on a TomTom compatible device usually.
Recently my Dad bought iGo8 with the entire world maps installed, so I pinched that and run it straight off my storage card with just a few teething problems. This is the best GPS / SatNav on my phone so far...
+1 for iGO8
Best GPS software by far for me. This is the only and single reason why I haven't bought an Android phone yet.
If they would have created the same skinable thing for a HTC Desire etc the HD would be history.
If I were you.
1) disable a-gps, causes roaming costs and most gps application freak out on it (download advanced config tool and disable it that way)
Lock, no lock, lock, ... mostly caused by agps (assisted-gps). Assisted means that it also gets data from the cell-tower which abroad can cost you loads of money (and yes I had that once)
If you use HTC quick gps you will probably get a lock in seconds if you are outside so no need for assisted.
2) install the gps mod driver , this one 'thinks' ahead by calculating points that it gets from the GPS receiver. If you don't feel confident about this one skip it but read the thread and keep it in the back of your head.
3) buy iGO8 and install the gurjon skin which makes iGO look fantastic and makes it fully configurable the way you want it.
4) enjoy a fantastic GPS system