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Google maps and M700

Has anyone got the Orange M700 to work with the GPS function on Google Maps? Or does the HTC rom have to be installed??

not sure I get what you mean.... do you mean run google maps on the M700 OR use the M700 as a GPS mouse and feed the signal to a lappy and run Google Maps on the lappy?
I have done the second way, BUT you need to upgrade your google maps for $20/year (iirc) which alows you to use the GPS functions.
Not sure about google maps on the M700 as it's a huge piece of software.
Otherwise TomTom 6 has Sat images built in for overlay onto the maps when route plotting.

I'm using Google maps for pocket PC on the M700. Everything is OK.

Sorry for not being very clear....
Google maps works fine as I am messing around with it just now, but i dont get a gps location when "track location (gps)" is selected, my M700 tries to locate satellites, but then fails. I was just wondering if this function worked
Super sheep, does the "track location (gps)" function work when you select it?
On the help pages there is no mention of having to pay a subscription to the gps service to enable it.
Deech, How do you access the sat maps on tomtom??
Thanks

They are built into tom tom 6 and some where in the set-up you can select the Sat overlays, not used it my self but they are there ;-)
/me is now looking google maps mobile ;-)
also El Reg has a report here about it
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/10/google_maps_uk/
edit....
Just fired up the wi-fi (keep down data costs) and grabbed google maps, activated the gps in "menu" 30 secs later my location shwn and everything
Just a thought how many other apps are running, first time I ran it it ran out of memory, however it looked like EVERYTHING was running ;-?

AND..... Googlemaps also has to be pointed to the Com9 port

It does?
Never touched it on my M700........... but hey ho ;-)

hey, just got it to work!!
Didnt have to point to com9.
I think the problem was that it normally takes quite a while to acquire the satellites when using tomtom. I dont think that google maps is patient enough before moaning that gps isnt present.
Quite cool, but will cost a fortune in GPRS/3G charges

Is Google Maps supposed to work this way?

I'm running IGuidance 4.0 with an Itrek M5+ gps bluetooth reciever and today I decided to try out Google Maps. This is being used on a Verizon XV-6800 with Fransons GPS Gate.
When I first fire up Google Maps it says "Your handset does not appear be compatible with my location (beta)." and it places me in CA when I live in VA.
If I run it through the Itrek under GPS then it works fine - question is do I need to enable the GPS built into the phone for it to work without the Itrek or is it better to run through the Itrek itself in terms of signal for Google maps?
Thanks!

BK111968 said:
I'm running IGuidance 4.0 with an Itrek M5+ gps bluetooth reciever and today I decided to try out Google Maps. This is being used on a Verizon XV-6800 with Fransons GPS Gate.
When I first fire up Google Maps it says "Your handset does not appear be compatible with my location (beta)." and it places me in CA when I live in VA.
If I run it through the Itrek under GPS then it works fine - question is do I need to enable the GPS built into the phone for it to work without the Itrek or is it better to run through the Itrek itself in terms of signal for Google maps?
Thanks!
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you need to press, under options, use GPS. then when it has a fix, you can press my location to find where you are if you moved from your fix on maps. make sure you GPS settings are set to 'automatic by windows'

I think the signal is more likely to be better if you run it through your external gps. The mogul is a jack-of-all-trades device. It does a little of everything. However, this means that some functions are not optimized - and my experience is gps is one of them. Having said that, I do think it should work fine if you follow the directions given on the previous post.

If you have Sprint and are running PRI 2.03 then the mogul is an excellent GPS device, not unoptimized as the previous poster said.

Yeah, I'm using my XV6800 GPS regularly to get me to specific long. and lat. coordinates and its working flawlessly (w/in 1-3 meters usually depending on atmospheric and geographic problems). I have friends using their Garmin type handhelds and in car devices that initially thought using a phone for Geocaching (www.geocaching.com) was nuts but they're believers now...

Google maps defaults to their home base of San Francisco.
I have the Mogul from Sprint. Sometimes the gps works with Google maps. Sometimes it doesn't.
I have been reading that you have to prime it or warm it up with another program. Don't understand why. I am still researching this.
The My Location feature works great once you get the gps to turn on. I have found it to be very accurate. So much so that I have done some Geocaching with it. I use a Garmin Etrex Vista for Geocaching, but when I am at work and want to check out some caches, I feel confident that the gps on the Mogul is an adequate locator.
Google maps is of course an excellent service. And is just as excellent on the phone. The search feature in Google maps is my number one application. I just need to find a free application to give me turn by turn. =P

There is no need to prime google. It does it on it's own. I've heard of it being an issue with some navigation programs.

"My location" works by triangulating your position via the cell towers. This works for other devices that don't have an internal GPS chip. I've seen this on different Blackberry devices.
If you've enabled GPS, then 'my location' simply centers your view to your GPS location.

Telus HTC touch/Elf GPS trouble

With the new Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade is available for the Telus HTC touch, we can now have access to the GPS function. Witch is great. The only problem, I kneed to use the Telus Navigator program in order for my GPS to work.
Other program will work but only after enabling the GPS by starting Telus Navigator.
The 2 other program I'm trying to configure are : Google maps and GPS Tuner.
Both work, but not before I turn on the Telus GPS program, even if I set the port manually.
Is there any buddy els with that same problem ?

Salut alex
I have the HTC Touch from Telus (wich is the Vogue by the way, not the Elf, that's the GSM version ( from Rogers))
I have acces to my GPS from Google maps without having to open Telus Navigator or any other software. You just have to make sure you have a data session active. Just move the map in google around so it will connect the data and you should be good to go!
Also, of course, make sure you have checked the "use GPS" function!
Oh! Remember that the phone needs to see the sky to detect satellites! It won't work well inside...

Guys... check out this thread which I started once the leaked rom was released.. In it you will find directions to fully activate your gps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&highlight=telus

Thanks Guys.
I spent two days searching post on finding a way to make it work. For a reason I dont know, I could not activate my GPS without the Telus navigator. And it seams I'm not the only one.
The best way I found is true GPS gate. A software the activate your GPS port. Then I could use any GPS program I installed.
Still trying out a programs to find the best one that suites me tho !

How does Bell's HTC touch dual GPS Nav??

http://www.bell.ca/shopping/HTC-Touch-Dual/67331.details
I dont understand. Are they using 3G connection to navigate?

'cause in Canada the Touch Dual is a Niki400, not a Niki100

i believe it has a different rf chip and an antenna for gps

I will check this!!!
GPS isnt GPS ... if it use A-GPS then its possible to enable of Niki and Neon too. But Prove of concept only work with a picture of the main board with all antennas inside!

It is a real GPS and I use it with different applications. One of them can identfy and show the number of satellites available.

Damn it's cdma... no GSM

kitzu said:
It is a real GPS and I use it with different applications. One of them can identfy and show the number of satellites available.
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What applications do you use?

Activate GPS on HTC Touch Dual (Bell Moblility NEON400)
Is there built in GPS in HTC Touch Dual from Bell Mobility? No you say? Think again!!
CNET ASIA was probably talking about the GSM version of the HTC Touch Dual, however the HTC website also makes no mention of this capability.
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39051199,42048146p,00.htm
http://www.htc.com/ca/product/touchdualbell/specification.html
Model No: NEON400
Platform: PocketPC
CPU: Qualcomm 7501A - (MSM7501A-528MHz)
ROM version: 1.04.666.8
ROM Date: 07/26/08
Radio version: 0.99.95V
Hardware Version: 0080
OS: Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional CE OS 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
HOW TO ACTIVATE GOOGLE MAPS ON YOUR BELL MOBILITY 1XEV HTC TOUCH DUAL and USE THE BUILT IN GPS
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1) Enable the GPS: START:SETTINGSERSONALHONE:SERVICES:LOCATION SETTING:GET SETTINGS:ON
2) Install Microsoft Active Sync (From the CD that came with the phone) and configure as follows:
FILE:CONNECTION SETTINGS:ALLOW USB CONNECTIONS=>CHECK/ (yes)
THIS COMPUTER IS CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET/ (yes)
OPEN ACTIVE SYNC WHEN MY DEVICE CONNECTS/ (yes)
ALLOW WIRELESS CONNECTION ON DEVICE WHEN CONNECTED To DESKTOP => UNCHECK (in other words, no. Big money saving tip here)
3) Connect the Touch Dual to the PC using the USB Data Cable and let it be installed by Windows (e.g. Allow USB enumeration sequence to complete)
4) START:SETTINGS:CONNECTIONS:USB TO PC:ACTIVE SYNC:ENABLE ADVANCED NETWORK => UNCHECK
5) START:INTERNET EXPLORER => m.google.com/maps (click on download link)
6) Download and install Google Maps (hint select "open" after selecting to download Google maps)
7) Get out in the open sky, or at least on the top floor of your house but keep the laptop connected to the HTC Touch Dual for now (and also keep it connected to the internet)
8) START:SETTINGS:SYSTEM:EXTERNAL GPSROGRAMS:GPS PROGRAM PORT:COM 3 4800
9) START:SETTINGS:SYSTEM:EXTERNAL GPS:HARDWARE:GPS HARDWARE PORT:NONE
10) START:SETTINGS:SYSTEM:EXTERNAL GPS:ACESS:Manage GPS Automatically => CHECKED
11) In Google Maps: MENU:USE GPS also MENU:OPTIONS:GPS SETTINGS:COM 3 4800
You will see Google Maps get a global position lock, and plot your position on the map. VERY COOL!!!!
Now you can disconnect from the USB Cable and the map will update automatically as you move around (Using your wireless data connection of course - cha ching!)
Handy tips:
a) Instead of downloading the CAB files to your smart phone which is a PITA to type the URLs, instead download them to your laptop then use the file explorer in Active Sync to drop them into your "My Documents" folder on the phone. Then double click from the phone on the CAB file to install it.
b) Don't forget to delete the CAB file from My Documents after the install to free up precious room.
c) Possibly avoid applications that require you to update dotNET framework. It is humungaloid and updating it might mess up your ROM. Install them and if they complain about dot net uninstall them. (IMHO, your mileage may vary)
d) TurboGPS is a good app for checking if the GPS is working and seeing the satellites in real time and space, and also for recording your track and making KML files to put into Google Earth later:
www.turboirc.com/tgps/
e) This seems to be an excellent website for application software for this and related (by OS) SmartPhones. For example here is a search of that site for GPS apps sorted by rating:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-gps-1-rating.html
Oh baby...oh baby...oh baby...oh

Using GPS as in the last post, ISN'T using GPS. Google maps is one of the only apps that triangulates your "approximate" position through your wireless connection. The app has to support that function though based on where you are as not every tower has the necessary hardware to provide the needed information to the Google application. I haven't seen anyone satisfactoraly describe what a-GPS is so... it means that whether there is an internal or external GPS radio, the GPS positioning is "assisted" by the phone being triangulated through the network/towers. It only really comes into play when GPS signal is very weak (and is almost always transparent to the user). The overseas Dual (Niki 100) does not have built-in GPS. The US version of the Dual (Neon 300) does not have built-in GPS. Not sure about the 400 (Nike 400 or Neon 400?). I've never heard of the Nike 400, but I have heard of the Neon 400 which did have built-in GPS. Hope this helps...

I have confirmed that this works with my Neon400 CDMA for real GPS, NOT ASSISTED GPS as posted by dezurita.
I used com4 (personal preference I guess)
I have my Baud Rate set to 9600 (step 11 suggests 4800). I haven't confirmed that this works any better or worse
I did not need to do step 4
A fix to step 8 though is there is no baud setting on that page
On a side note; Since I'm using Windows Vista, I don't use ActiveSync... I use Windows Mobile Device Center.
You can make the same settings as step 2 by opening up the WMDC -> Mobile Device Settings -> Connection Settings

im trying this on my Neon400 but so far is unsuccessfully, maybe im doing this wrong some how....
in Google maps-Menu-GPS settings do i have to set Set manually or managed by windows?
thanks.

Use Turbo GPS to see satellite status
Hi Stutunaru,
Use turbogps to see the satellite status. That way you can be certain that you are getting actual satellite data.
For google maps, (and everything else) use the "managed by windows" setting for the GPS data.
MENU:OPTIONS:GPS SETTINGS:MANAGED BY WINDOWS
My previous step 11 was incorrect. My bad.
Hi Dezurita,
Ditto
Hi Glotsapot,
You are correct. The corrected step 8 is:
START:SETTINGS:SYSTEM:EXTERNAL GPSROGRAMS:GPS PROGRAM PORT:COM 3:HARDWARE:GPS HARDWARE PORT NONE: BAUD: 4800
However, I don't think this step is even required unless you have an external GPS device. So step 8 may be skipped altegether since the HTC TOUCH DUAL has an internal GPS Radio Rxcvr.
Regarding setp 4. I use Active Sync to get info from Google Maps like bus schedules or guide info, or the location of all my buddies on latitude, or to update my location on latitude. Then I disconnect from the web (unplug the USB cable from my PC and break the Active Sync connection). Actually I have pretty much stopped using Google maps now except latitude, since to be really helpful it requires a full time internet connection.
Instead, I have installed Garmin XT along witht he NA 2010 North America City Navigator map set. (I bought an 8GB Micro SD card from FS for $25 to store the maps). Also you can download speed camera data from Trapster.com.
This is a serious killer app. And NO SERVICE CHARGES for turn-by-turn directions. Typing letters on the Garmin works with your fingers if in landscape display mode.
Oh baby! oh baby! oh baby! oh!
My only regret is no Wi-Fi. If I had Wi-Fi I could update Latitude whenever in Wi-Fi range - for free. I hate to be so friggin' cheap, but that is what I do best.
Oh, and a full querty keyboard. That would be nice. So if I was to do it over, I would probably get HTC Touch Diamond (for Wi-Fi and virtual keyboard) or the HTC Touch Pro with the full physical qwerty keyboard. But I would buy only after I install Turbo GPS and confirm I can see the satellites. (ie Confirm that the GPS Rxcvr has not been artificially cripppled)

Google Maps GSM-Based My Location on HTC Universal

Hi all, has anyone been able to run the google maps "my location" service on a HTC Universal using the GSM triangulation? If it works for you, please post the windows-mobile version, country and provider. It's not working for me (WM 6.1, O2 Germany, tried with UMTS and GSM.) WLAN-based locator is working. Thx for feedback!

GSM based locator shouldn't work on Uni because of the ril driver it has now.
If someone managed to patch it...

my location with google maps works for me (gsm, umts)
my location with the hero ui doesnt work (gsm, umts)
o2 germany
htc touch diamond 2
no difference between all roms i've tried with and without hero ui

emx_o said:
my location with google maps works for me (gsm, umts)
my location with the hero ui doesnt work (gsm, umts)
o2 germany
htc touch diamond 2
no difference between all roms i've tried with and without hero ui
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I think you are in the wrong forum, my friend. Are we talking about Universal (which is the name of the device, not the general forum for all devices) here??? With Universal it doesn't work. My location works for me on my Elf, but we are not talking about Elf, right?

It did work for me sometimes... But all i get now is your current location is temporarily unavailable....( using version 3.2.1).. If i get it working again i'll post some screenshots...

I don't think the radio gives back transmitter location (codes), so it is impossible to work on Uni. That is unless it's the ril.dll (maybe a particular ROM was able to extract the information from the radio?).
I've only ever got it working with my external GPS.

ok got it working currently i'm using tomals 8.9 rom and google map 3.2.1 and i can get my location...
see attached screenshots ...

google maps on orange
rajivshahi, how did you manage that? doesn't work for me
Perhaps it's the operator that does it.
I'm with Orange, and if I go to Orange Local it tells me where I am... (see piccy1)
Pity Google Maps doesn't do the same for me.
raji.. as you have it working, can I ask request:
can you run the fieldtest program (attached) and see what you get for NCell Info on GSM? (see piccy2)

Not working for me. The same Tomal 8.9 (128Mb) and Google Maps version.

Just tested now again and it still works..
When using wifi it shows my location but while using activesync it doesn't mostly i use wifi here.......
@ jonny
nothing in ncell info see folllowing pic..

Thanks Raji.., ok how does Google Maps operate then? I thought they used Cell ID. It can't be as complex as knowing your router location (have you tried over GPRS?). The only other thing is that they are in cahoots with the operator (oh, I just scared myself, that sounds too much like Matrix!)

ok,that's scary. it works
I'm using xplode's wm6.5 ROM, connected to my router by WiFi, using GoogleMaps (same v. as you)... and it's nearly pinpointed my location!
however, it doesn't work over GPRS, so back to square 1, I'm sorry.

-Jonny- said:
ok,that's scary. it works
I'm using xplode's wm6.5 ROM, connected to my router by WiFi, using GoogleMaps (same v. as you)... and it's nearly pinpointed my location!
however, it doesn't work over GPRS, so back to square 1, I'm sorry.
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Well i always thought it was issue with the rom, but today when i tried it without wifi it didn't work so i tried again on wifi and it did work.. i repeated the process several times to come to conclusion that google map uses the router to get the location... that's pretty strange... well hope for some words from the masters about this new finding.....