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Connect Athena to external touch screen monitor, possibile?

Hi guys, i am currently trying to set up my Athena with my car, i wonder if it's possible to connect my Athena with a external touch screen monitor like this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-INCH-TOUCH-...9QQihZ005QQcategoryZ32826QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
throw the VGA cable.
I know it will display the screen throw VGA out, but I am not sure whether it will enable the touch screen function, any of you know this?
Thanks a lot
p.s. I will post some screen shot if I succeed in this project.

Is that a PS2 port?
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?

inframan said:
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?
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I am sure you don't need a pen, there are lots of touch screen out there, for example this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....tToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
I just don't know if we simply plug in the vga cable from our Athena to the touch screen, will that work?
Possibility not, I can kind of see a usb cable there, how about plug that in the usb host ? but then maybe we still need to install the driver.....
Basically, what I am trying to do here to use get a bigger screen to show for Athena in a car. So, I will then have much bigger TOMTOM, and also can watch movie or go on internet.
Any good suggestion guys? Thanks a lot for all your help.

I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.

johnwalk said:
I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.
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it seems like they all need to install driver, do you think it will work without driver?

thats the only problem, does it need specialist drivers? I havnt been able to come up with an answer yet.
But i wont be buying one for the car, somone nicked me vario yesterday from the car so not even chancing the Ameo.
I was just going to buy a little 7" tv I bought this tiny Keyboard out of Maplin on offer. thought it would look sweet in the car. but this is giving me other ideas, anybody shed light!

They ALL need specialist drivers.
Touchscreen is absolute position, mouse is relative. You NEED the custom driver. It may be possible, but I dont know how.

1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.

Basmelek said:
1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.
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Thanks for your answer, i just ask one of the seller there on ebay, and the answer I got is I will be able to plug the VGA cable in, that will enable the screen to display, but in order to get the touch screen working, I also need to plug in a USB, so now the question is whether the USB host will work on this....and of course the driver need to work too

The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.

IT WORKS!
Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.

Pyrofer said:
The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.
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Your on the right track with this answer,
Look for a touch screen that has a protocol that is treated as a standard HID ( Human interface device ) Ie:mouse, keyboard etc.etc.
if you can find such a device then the built in drivers for plug and play HID's will work fine.
otherwise the rest are right

Did this really work??? What car? This would simply be quite fantabulous.
cyberlancer said:
Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.
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usb audio out on hd

hello!
is there a really chance to get the audio out over usb like the diamond? i've read, that a driver exist to solve this problem. is there a chance to get this driver?

slash_1 said:
hello!
i've read, that a driver exist to solve this problem. is there a chance to get this driver?
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You can find this driver in the HD accessories forum (it's discussing remote control for HD).
But you don't need to because it doesn't work. I couldn't install it - got a message that the latest driver already exists. So it seems like it's not a software issue, there's just no audio in the extUSB hardware wise.
Stupid design really, and a case where marketing beat logic and usefulness. Not to mention that extUSB is USB plus audio by definition!

vangrieg said:
You can find this driver in the HD accessories forum (it's discussing remote control for HD).
But you don't need to because it doesn't work. I couldn't install it - got a message that the latest driver already exists. So it seems like it's not a software issue, there's just no audio in the extUSB hardware wise.
Stupid design really, and a case where marketing beat logic and usefulness. Not to mention that extUSB is USB plus audio by definition!
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OK, do you mind if I ask a stupid question then - where does a hands free kit plug into ?

Paul.Ferrari said:
OK, do you mind if I ask a stupid question then - where does a hands free kit plug into ?
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3,5mm plug hole in top of the phone

so I find that really sad.
I had already pointed to use my new HD same as my Diamand as a player in the car.
so long, thank you for your answers!

IrDA on X1

I have a Scuba Diving computer that I use via IrDA on the Dell Axim that my X1 has just been purchased to replace.
Can anyone tell me if it would be possible to use an external USB IrDA dongle with the X1. I've only seen Windows XP/Vista drivers listed against these dongles.
What would be involved in developing a driver?

This might be tricky, as I read somewhere on the forum that the USB port is not powered, and therefore connecting dongles (including e.g. USB drives) is difficult.
The last I saw was that it might have been possible to connect the X1 to a powered port adapter, into which USB dongles were attached.
Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?

it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost

Calvin H said:
Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?
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Sounds like a useful suggestion. Could you point me to the type of device you mention.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.

Rudegar said:
it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost
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You're right on this one. It's not possible to connect USB devices to the X1 because there's no host. Even with a seperate power source, the X1 will not recognize it. Look at it this way, whenever you connect the X1 through USB, it'll act as a slave, waiting for input. Dongles need input themselves, so both devices will keep waiting for each other forever... It's like a bad fairytale!

Angelusz said:
... It's like a bad fairytale!
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This this the sort of device that might enable Price Charming (the new name for my X1) to get together with Cinderella (the new name for my lonely, but very beautiful Dive computer)?

Touch HD2 - about microUSB and digital compass

Is reading on the HTC homepage about HD2 specs.
I need one and was wondering about two things.
Does anyone know if standard microUSB means we can connect micro usb
stuff to the phone if we only have the right drivers?
I can think of two accessoars id would like to connect-
-USB handsfree from touch PRO
-some kind of TV out-cable
And there is one question about the digital compass.
will it be like the one that is on the marked now, were you dont have to
have GPS connected?
ps. when will HD get an own section on XDA? after all it is official and all now, and would be better to know were to post this kind of questions. ds.

Ethania said:
Is reading on the HTC homepage about HD2 specs.
I need one and was wondering about two things.
Does anyone know if standard microUSB means we can connect micro usb
stuff to the phone if we only have the right drivers?
I can think of two accessoars id would like to connect-
-USB handsfree from touch PRO
-some kind of TV out-cable
And there is one question about the digital compass.
will it be like the one that is on the marked now, were you dont have to
have GPS connected?
ps. when will HD get an own section on XDA? after all it is official and all now, and would be better to know were to post this kind of questions. ds.
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no it doesnot support sound output from usb and hd2 doesnot have tvout support like the previous hd doesnot suppor nither tvout nor soundoutput from usb

Ethania said:
Does anyone know if standard microUSB means we can connect micro usb
stuff to the phone if we only have the right drivers?
I can think of two accessoars id would like to connect-
-USB handsfree from touch PRO
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Straight up, before we even start talking about drivers, there's no way you would be able to phsically connect accessories from the Touch Pro to the HD2 as the Touch Pro is miniUSB and the HD2 microUSB.
Ethania said:
And there is one question about the digital compass.
will it be like the one that is on the marked now, were you dont have to
have GPS connected?
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Er, I don't quite understand. What do you mean 'like the one that is on the marked now'?
But I can tell you this, a digital compass has nothing at all to do with GPS. The two are completely different.

Step666 said:
Er, I don't quite understand. What do you mean 'like the one that is on the marked now'?
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Just didnt want to say:
Like the one in iPhone 3Gs, but you got my point anyway so thanks for the answer!

We have a magnet on TouchHD, why not a compass?
Hi,
Hats off to all the senior friends who are making lives easy for so many of us
I have a very simple question. The stylus which the company gives with the Touch HD is a magnet. Why can't we have a digital compass using it?
Hope it makes sense

tv or video out ??

hi
i dont know if this has been covered (the search didnt find anything relevant)
is there a hack / way for video or tv out on this device??
thanks

zohaer21 said:
hi
i dont know if this has been covered (the search didnt find anything relevant)
is there a hack / way for video or tv out on this device??
thanks
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I am also interested by that.
Any ideas?

Basically, I would like to know if TV out is possible to connect it to my car entertainment device that I am planning to buy :
Din 1, 7 inch with DVD, GPS, Bluetoth, USB.
This will transform this device to a mobile device with a large screen from where I can surf, chat, play games etc...(launch all apps from the HTC HD2)
Any ideas?

It's not possible. Sorry, but it really is that simple.

Thanks for the answer.
Is this because of the harware that does not support it or is it because there is no driver developped by HTC?

i really think thats a driver problem only Maybe there is a way to stream video signal over wifi or bluetooth? it's kinda strange thing to do but i think it's possible using a software?

I read in a forum that via the 3,5mm jack it might be possible to video out (it was for another phone).
If Hardware does not support it via micro USB, we are stuck I guess,
If it is a driver issue, xda gurus might develep one,
If micro USB does not support it, what about the 3,5 mm jack?
I am not an expert at all, but I am just brainstorming...
Any thoughts?

This is the message I got rom HTC Support
Thank you for your enquiry about HTC HD2
To answer question 1 and 2, the HD2 does not support video out as it does not have a built in video out socket nor would you be able to achieve this via the 3,5mm jack.
It is not a built in function to handle this via bluetooth I could only suggest you try to look up some 3rd party program, but I could not provide support for this.
Best regards,
Dennis
HTC

Well actually, the HD2 does support video out! Using myMobiler you can display in full screen on your PC what's going on on your HD2. And if in turn, you connect your PC to your TV you could also watch your HD2 on your 50'' Full HD TV screen
OK, I'm joking here, the quality would be terrible, but still, it goes to show that it's possible to have video come out from the micro USB port and be displayed on a much larger screen, so maybe someone will go one step further!

pat12 said:
Well actually, the HD2 does support video out! Using myMobiler you can display in full screen on your PC what's going on on your HD2. And if in turn, you connect your PC to your TV you could also watch your HD2 on your 50'' Full HD TV screen
OK, I'm joking here, the quality would be terrible, but still, it goes to show that it's possible to have video come out from the micro USB port and be displayed on a much larger screen, so maybe someone will go one step further!
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Mon pot
I basically wanted to connect my HD2 to a Car Entertaniement device which has a 7 inch touch-screen, 'genre auto-radio', (7 ' Din1, DVD, GPS, Bluetooth, USB) in order to take advantage of all features/applications from the HTC (Google maps, dictionnaires, enclyclopedia, 3G, opera, chat etc).
Mymobiler will not help at all.
The HTC Touch Pro supports the video-out; The HTC DH2 does not support it as it is now. I have seen on http://wmpoweruser.com/ a guy making a video out cable for this LG eXpo. Check the video. Why can't we do it?
It shouldn't be difficult to make a video out cable...

Via a redfly?
If you were really committed, you could grab a Celiocorp Redfly, wait until they release the HD2 driver, then use the media cable to output to video...
Then, for the transmission of the video, you could use either bluetooth or micro-USB.
So it's technically possible with the right hardware...

The closest thing you'll get to TV out on the HD2 is the ability to set it as a media server, but that will require some kind of media browser client. I've done this with my PS3 and a Nokia N95, but the software is currently under development for the WM platform.
See here...
http://mobileosgi.blogspot.com/2009/08/dlna-media-server-for-smart-phones.html
Incidentally, they use a PS3 on the demo video, but that is not required. Also, you can use this to stream video, not just pictures.

problem is
phones that output through the 3.5 jack have an extra connector inside the socket to carry the image channel so there is no way to adapt a standard 3.5 output to carry video regardless of software. (not taking mine apart to look if its 2 or 3 chanel of course hehe)
as for through the usb im less sure but i'd guess it would only be able to send to host devices and not client peripherals. course, I'd be more than happy to be told otherwise.

samsamuel said:
I'd be more than happy to be told otherwise.
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i wish some one finds out how to do this.. but i just did a quick search on google and what i found out was that none of the snap dragon processor based winmo devices do video out
guess ill be keeping my iphone 3gs (cos i need video out )
i just played with the hd2 today and boy im gonna miss not having it

zohaer21 said:
i just did a quick search on google and what i found out was that none of the snap dragon processor based winmo devices do video out
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The processor has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the device can output video. It needs specific hardware to do this and it is not included in this device, neither through the USB port or the 3.5mm jack socket.
It is 100% impossible to implement a "fix" for this with software because the device simply does not have the hardware required.

Actually, Snapdragon processors DO support TV-Out. The Acer s200 (neo touch) and Toshiba TG01 both run on Snapdragon and support TV-Out. What I think the problem is, is that the hardware is there, but HTC just haven't implemented it. Meaning that they simply have not connected the function. Which is actually a shame as this was the only thing the pushed me away from this spectacular device and choose the Omnia B7610 instead, because it is a better all round device.

ayilm1 said:
Actually, Snapdragon processors DO support TV-Out. The Acer s200 (neo touch) and Toshiba TG01 both run on Snapdragon and support TV-Out. What I think the problem is, is that the hardware is there, but HTC just haven't implemented it. Meaning that they simply have not connected the function. Which is actually a shame as this was the only thing the pushed me away from this spectacular device and choose the Omnia B7610 instead, because it is a better all round device.
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You need a lot more than just processor support for TV out functionality, so the hardware is not there. Some of it is, but only 1 small part.

Exactly! That's why I was disappointed with the HD2. Seeing as Acer and Tosh both implemented the tv out functionality from the core, why didn't HTC do the same? Surely it wouldn't cost them THAT much more would it?

As far as I understand, this is a hardware related issue and not driver related? If it is driver related, I am sure one day this driver would be coded and made available in this forum.
I was palnning to video out to my car DVD entertainment touch screen device in order to be able to use google maps, opera, dictionnaries etc..
This plan will ne be feasible then...

You can use the hd2 as an usb-stick. With that function i can view movies and listen to music on my Alpine touchscreen radio.