Just a thought, i know that symbian phones have a software which utilize the accelerometer and mutes the phone call when turned over. is it possible to have a software to use the fort facing camera or back camera in our wm6 devices to detect light during the even of an incoming phone call? it doesnt need to be on all the time so it does not drain the battery and just turned on during phone calls. so front facing camera should detect either "dark-light-dark" (when in pocket) or "light-dark" when the phone is already out. hope that make senses.
what do you guys think? is it a good idea?
not sure if camera can be used for that purpose at all. I think u need extra hardware for that.
When a phone call is coming in the device has to take care of the following actions:
-device wake up
- initiate the incoming call screen
- start number identification (compare to address book)
- start ringer
Your idea would add the following actions:
- initiate (front)camera
- wait for camera to detect current lightning conditions
- if lighting is below a certain value mute sound
I would think that it takes to long to go trough the complete cyclus.
When you make a call to a PocketPC it takes about two "normal" rings to make a device ring. If you add the extra feature it might even be 4 or 5. Before you can even react the caller might already be redirected to the voice mail I'm afraid.
i thought of that mccune, but u will need another program to analyze the bringhtness, may be a new library, or tap into camera library, which I dont think it's easy to do.
you are right, it's probably not idea to execute camera function while phone ringing, worst case scenario the phone hang, or the call got disconnected.
but i love to see it works
well i see it that if the front camera activate when there is an incoming video call then wm6 should be able to handle just detecting the light effect without hanging. just a thought, at least its a start for all of us that do not have accelerometer and it can be develop for some other use too.
Can someone make an application similar with the Diamond Profile Switcher but when your phone is ringing and you don`t want to answer just shake and the phone goes silent (or mute ringing). ? This will be verry verry usefull for me. Thanks
Excuse my english...
You just need to turn around your Diamond (display down) while an imcoming call.
It is already possible to reject a call by putting the phone face down. Shaking seems a little inconvenient to me, as it'll likely register a shake when you get the phone out of your pocket.
So yeah, what he said ^
thak you very much.. i didn`t know about this option.. its exacly what i want..
face down is better for me because I cant imagine that the phone will ring in the middle of the meeting and Ill shake my diamond like crazy
I ll look like psycho to my boss maybe I ll be fired
Hi to everyone!
Just got an idea.
The last few days, after noticing the scratches on the back of my precious diamond, I started placing it face down (also to show of the diamond back of course using a screen protector).
What got me into thinking is:
Is there a way to reverse the way flip to mute works?
NOW:
When the phone is face up you flip it over to mute the ringtone.
IDEA:
Keep the phone face down and when it rings and of course you turn to see who is calling the ringtone mutes! (no need for it to ring anymore since you hold the phone).
PLUSES +
- Gives a more discreet way to think more whether you answer the call or reject it without disturbing.
- If in a meeting you place the phone face down again so when a new call comes in you can just flip to see who is calling, whether at the current state you have to flip the device face up and down again to mute.
What do you think about it?
Hi guys, this is my first post - very exciting.
I've had the HD2 for 3 weeks now and I love it. The only issue I have is with it dropping calls. I don't think it handles the handover from cell to cell very well but that's not my main issue as it happened from time to time on other phones too. My main query is with the clever accelerometer related functions. According to the manual, during a call if you put it face down it activates the speaker. Mine just ends the call. I think that it is getting confused during calls if I move and cutting me off. Done two hard resets but no joy. Does anyone know how to disable the function either through settings or registry?
I've looked around for quite a while on the forum and can't find what I'm looking for. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Cheers
Dan
PS It has stock O2 ROM, BSB tweaks, etc
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Hi guys, this is my first post - very exciting.
I've had the HD2 for 3 weeks now and I love it. The only issue I have is with it dropping calls. I don't think it handles the handover from cell to cell very well but that's not my main issue as it happened from time to time on other phones too. My main query is with the clever accelerometer related functions. According to the manual, during a call if you put it face down it activates the speaker. Mine just ends the call. I think that it is getting confused during calls if I move and cutting me off. Done two hard resets but no joy. Does anyone know how to disable the function either through settings or registry?
I've looked around for quite a while on the forum and can't find what I'm looking for. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Cheers
Dan
PS It has stock O2 ROM, BSB tweaks, etc
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In terms of dropping calls, it is usually due to the handover sequence between cellsites, rather than the handset itself.
I'm guessing you are on O2? If so, PM me your location and I'll get my "inside contact" to take a look at any outstanding issues there.
I must admit, I've not used that accelerometer feature yet, but I have turned it on. (Under Settings -> Sound & Display -> Ring and Notifications)
Erm.. This might sound like a dumb post but I was having problems with call disconnection whilst in the middle of calls. I discovered the problem - I'm LEFT HANDED!
When I used the device I held it in my right hand and type/operate with my left. When I held the phone to my right ear to have a conversation I was occasionaly touching my cheek with the call-end button and that's how I was getting repeated disconnections - true story.
I am now a practicing ambidextarian...
Thanks for getting back so quickly guys
a practicing ambidextarian eh............ I wish I could breathe underwater! (sorry I couldn't resist it)
I don't think I'm cutting off the call through contact with the screen all the time though but yes I have done it more than once!
Thanks for the info rp-x1. I'm in Settings -> Sound & Display -> Ring and Notifications and the only thing that looks relevant is the 'Quiet ring on pickup' option and I'm not sure it's related. For instance, I got a call early yesterday morning and answered the call in bed. When the wife elbowed me and I turned on my side the phone assumed I was putting it face down and ended the call. I'm looking to disable this function.
Dropping Phone calls even in locked screen state
I am also dropping a alot of calls . Not sure if it is related to face down as the phone is always upright after answring a call. May be the call end button.
Having said that the phone was locked when I received a call today. I moved the slider to answer said "hello", then after 3 seconds it disconnected.
Any ideas?
Thanks
edit: Seems like a proxomity sensor issue, judging by other threads. Will continue to search for a fix/workaround.
htc hd2 dropping calls
Hi everyone,
I have a htc hd2 since 1/2011, love the phone BUT i HATE the dropping calls problem!! Please help. also will upgrade to windows 7 help with this problem.
I hardly use the phone to make calls, so I'm not sure if the calls dropping in the past is any relation, but as stated by Danno320, according to the manual ( i went back looking for this ), turning the phone face-down will activate speakerphone.
This is so exciting... so I tried it a few times.
All it did was to disconnect the calls.
I wonder if the action really does turn the speakerphone on.
Anyone who's tried and succeeded?
I also want to know if there's a solution to this now that I know my phone isn't functioning like what the manual said it should be...
I've noticed my phone always starts to ring at where I set the volume to and then escalates to be very loud after a few seconds. I didnt see any settings to change this. Is this happening to anybody else?
Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.
adamr240 said:
Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.
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Actually yeah. Thats usually when it gets loud. I dont really like that as it gets super loud sometimes. Why wouldnt they have a setting for this?
Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...
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Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...
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I have the same issue! It happens on ALL Sense ROM's. If I am running AOSP (CM6 or MIUI) it is not an issue. Are there any ways to disable this setting if it is supposed to do so? Mine is on my belt in a case and when I'm in the office it rings way too loud. If the phone is on my desk it rings as I have the volume set.
Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,
Apparently the Shift has the same issue as my EVO or as Sprint would call it..."feature".
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=669629#post669629
You would think there was an app out there to override this.
alphanimal said:
Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,
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What device/ROM are you running? There is no setting for Pocket mode under settings -> sound on the stock EVO Shift 4G (at least not on mine). Anyone else find this?
I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)
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I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)
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that setting dont apply to shift
Did a complete wipe 2x using Amon Ra Recovery 2.3 and then flashed a stock image file from HBOOT and updated WiMAX, PRI & NV Radio. The issue was not present on the stock ROM. Wiped the stock ROM and flashed Myn's RLS5.....no more issues. Something was corrupt and enabled the sensor to trigger ring loud (when covered or senses low light) as it is designed to do on the Shift. The EVO does not have Pocket Mode in settings. Whatever the cause.....it is now resolved!
I sent a tweet in the direction of @htc about this yesterday, but they haven't answered. Hopefully we get an update that gives us a 2.x release of sense, not this weird "you have some of the features of new sense but not the whole package." The other feature that I know is there is the one where you can flip the phone over to silence the ring, and in fact, BOTH features are undocumented - the user manual for the shift doesn't mention declining a call by flipping the phone OR the word pocket except in warnings about where not to keep it.
I don't have any hope of a satisfactory answer, though, because in an earlier answer to someone about bugs, they said to submit something at htc.com/support and make sure to mark it a bug report - you can't do that anywhere on the email form and the other two options for support aren't things you "submit." The two times I've contacted them by email were also tremendous disappointments, so... there you go.
Tried to second your post on HTC's support forum but their forum software is misconfigured and my email server is rejecting their mail because it is not a fully-qualified hostname. Meh. Like you, I don't hold out enough hope of a fix to bother with the registration process.
You mentioned flip to silence, but there is actually a setting on the Evo Shift 4G to silence the ringtone when the phone is moved. It's under settings - sounds, and it is "quiet ring on pickup". Since the action of flipping the phone involves moving it, I wonder if you are seeing that setting working when you flip your phone over. My phone stops ringing (if it's not in a pocket) when I pick it up off the table. It doesn't decline the call, it just stops the ringer.
Edit: eh, I made an allowance on my mail server so HTC's misconfigured SMTP server could send my activation message and let me register.
By the way, I posted a workaround on Android Central that works for the way I use the phone. I created a silent ringtone. Then I set the phone to vibrate as well. So in my pocket I feel/hear the vibration but I don't get the ridiculously-loud rings. But I can hear my notifications at normal volume. When the phone is on my desk, the vibration and screen lighting up are enough of an alert for me. Obviously this won't work if you ever keep the phone in a bag or somewhere that you can't hear or feel the vibration, but it works for me as a pocket user.
Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/112/t/9935.aspx
For anyone else that wants to weigh in on the issue on the official HTC support forum. Maybe they won't ignore us too hard.
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Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.
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Ok, makes sense - since I use a silent ringtone, the "quiet" and "silent" are the same to me, LOL. But yes, it doesn't decline the call.
I actually liked the Touch Pro2 where flipping during a call would turn on the speakerphone. Why can't they keep good features like that instead of forcing this new stuff down our throats with no option to turn it off.
Bump/Update: After two tweets on the issue and an entire week of the post I made sitting on the HTC forums, I have had enough of being ignored and went to the email support option.
I'm not resetting my phone again, so I instead borrowed the New Issue text from Google Code project pages and sent steps to duplicate.
Anybody else that might have this problem is welcome to weigh in; I gave links to this thread and the one over on Android Central in my forum post on HTC, which is linked in the support message I sent.
Another update: Today I received my response; I don't have to reset my phone (yet) and my concern is being escalated to whatever the next level of CS is called.
They say escalated department is first-come, first-served, so it may be a while before I know more.
The problem is that HTC sees this as a feature, not a bug. They market this as a way to hear your phone when it's in a bag. While it makes perfect sense to us end-users to have an option to turn this off, from a lab testing standpoint it's not a priority because the function works as designed. If HTC had really thought this through, they should realize that there are some things phones should never do, and ringing at maximum volume unless specifically directed by the user is one of them.
The funny thing is that I'd like almost the exact opposite behavior. I'd prefer the phone to ring (quietly) on my desk, and automatically switch to vibrate when it's in my pocket (as determined by the prox sensor). But people who carry their phones in bags or purses wouldn't benefit from this option. Everybody's needs are different; HTC just determined what they think is the most common scenario and coded Sense that way. I have to give them credit for thinking up the idea, but since it doesn't work for everyone it should be more flexible.
Thanks for taking the time to bring this to their attention. It may well be that a couple of generations of phones from now we'll start seeing more options in these settings, which would be fantastic.
Update: HTC has been calling me at work, once yesterday once today. I have not been at work this week but will be in tomorrow; they gave me a number to call if I wanted to get in touch with them sooner. I will be calling them back as soon as I'm done with my planned tasks tomorrow (assuming they haven't called me first).
Here's hoping news about when we get an update that stops this nonsense comes swiftly!