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Apologies for the stupid question. I know that upgrading the OS ROM clears the unit, but I was under the impression that upgrading the Radio does not. However the installation program ("RomUpDateUtility") says that continuing will result in all system data being lost.
I upgraded radio ROM 2x and data was not lost....
Do not worry
Only Rom flash deletes datas, hard-spl and radio rom flash does not. (but I suggest, use the custom RUU by UDK)
When I flashed my (1.58.25.14) all data was lost and I ended up with a clean device. Just like after hard reset..
johnsonc said:
When I flashed my (1.58.25.14) all data was lost and I ended up with a clean device. Just like after hard reset..
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Maybe U did not use the custom RUU by UDK.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376119&page=4
post 4
I didn't. Thanks for the hint fktsndr! Will try to use this custom RUU next time I decide to upgrade Radio
johnsonc said:
I didn't. Thanks for the hint fktsndr! Will try to use this custom RUU next time I decide to upgrade Radio
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Even a complete overwrite seems to leave things like manual roaming settings on the SIM card
leondaphillips said:
Even a complete overwrite seems to leave things like manual roaming settings on the SIM card
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Of course.
Sim card and storage card are not part of the device.
Romflashing will update only the device.
Radio upgrade
No data will be lost if you upgrade radio rom.
Just do a soft reset after the upgrade and everything will be OK.
Hello Everybody,
Let me start off by saying that this is the worst phone I've ever used. I had great expectations from this phone but never mind - I'm going to stick to my Excalibur.
This is the first time in my life that i actually bricked a phone. I installed a couple of cooked ROMs and everything went fine. I have experience with CID Unlocking and flashing ROMs. Anyways, all I did was try to flash back to the original Rogers ROM from the Original Shipped ROMS thread and that's when my phone got bricked.
I have searched and done everything possible so far and NOTHING WORKS!
So far I've done this:
1) I have tried flashing the Chinese ROM/Dopod WWE Asia ROM as their official HTC ROM's.
2) Done a hard reset
3) Loads into Boot Loader and the boot loader version is
IPL - 2.21.0002
SPL - 2.21.0000
4) Ran MTTY and i got gsecuritylevel=FF (which means install shipped ROM)
5) Tried running USPL but no luck
6) Tried installing Rogers ROM from the original shipped ROMS thread, still no luck as it gets to 3% and reboots
I seriously don't know what else to do. This is just ANNOYING!! Ive been sitting here for the past 4-5 hours trying to get this damn thing to work.
Is there a way to downgrade the SPL so I could flash a ROM?
Is there a free permanent CID Unock available?
Is there ANY WAY out there to unbrick a Rogers HTC TOUCH
(DAMN ROGERS !!!)
Finally, I'm trying the SD Card ROM Update method and hoping it works.
Mods, if you see this and know of a way to help me out, please do or anyone else who knows what to do so my life is back to normal, please help. Thanks in advance.
EDIT: Ok, I tried the SD Card method, it says Checking SD Card Contents and nothing happened, all i see is a tri color screen. The SD Card is 2 GB, is the only file present on the card and it was renamed accordingly (the .nbh file).
Please help as I'm going nuts trying to fix this.
Best Regards,
lukybandit
Anyone at all?
I've done all the searching I could and everything I've tried so far has failed on me.
I can get into the bootloader, get into the hard reset and even can run a mtty session and no matter what I do, it gets stuck at the HTC logo.
In addition to this, all ROM's that I have tried so far keep getting the Error 270 (Obviously due to not being able to even temporarily CID unlocking it).
I did notice a lot of people have bricked their devices and I figure if i can get into the boot loader screen then at least SOMETHING can be done.
Here is what i have learned.
I have the Rogers Touch, and i said SCREW IT, and going to pick up an AT&T Tilt.. I already have 2 S621's, 1 Tytn 2, and i need another phone for my dad.
I had the touch for 1 week and had the same problem as you. Here is what i gather.
1. YOU CANNOT - install the original ROM if you flashed the incorrect ROM
2. Because there is no HARD SPL, i used the USPL, which on reset will result in a CID relock.
3. In this condition, the only way to reflash if you can't get back into the regular today screen is a custom SPL, by Olipro or something.
But Olipro (i keep forgetting his name), charges 75 GBP which equates to $160CDN or so. I bought my HTC Touch used for $200CDN. Makes no sense to fix it. So i am going to try and sell this phone to someone who wants to fix it for cheap.
Sorry man, i looked EVERYWHERE for a fix, and there was NONE to be found, unless you use this guy , who has succesfully fixed everyone elses phone.
Honestly, if my phone was worth alot more than $200, i would pay him with no issue, but because the fix is the same as buying the same phone again, it makes no sense.
Are you serious?!!!
So there's no way for me to fix this piece of ****? frig man.
I paid for this and now I can't fix it?
Can Rogers find out that I tried playing around with the phone or not? I hope not because It's been only 3 days since I got this and it's been barely used.
If there's a fix, please let me know.
That's not even worth it. If there's someone out there that can fix it, please help - Thanks
P.S: Thanks for your response.
Did you to a reformat/Hard Reset on phone first and then tried to reflash?
Worked for me once when i ****ed up badly.
Reset Button and hold down Both call Buttons.
And maybe i should not ask this but you have removed both SD and SIM card?
I'm uploading a 2.26 Rom at the moment.
Doesn't Canada have Vogue devices like the US? (this is a real question i don't know)
Attached is a 2.26 SPL only.
How far does it get in the Flashing screen (45%)?
And here's Full T-Mobile NL Rom with 2.26 http://rapidshare.com/files/122419910/RUU_signed.nbh.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347700
treid that?
Noonski said:
Did you to a reformat/Hard Reset on phone first and then tried to reflash?
Worked for me once when i ****ed up badly.
Reset Button and hold down Both call Buttons.
And maybe i should not ask this but you have removed both SD and SIM card?
I'm uploading a 2.26 Rom at the moment.
Doesn't Canada have Vogue devices like the US? (this is a real question i don't know)
Attached is a 2.26 SPL only.
How far does it get in the Flashing screen (45%)?
And here's Full T-Mobile NL Rom with 2.26 http://rapidshare.com/files/122419910/RUU_signed.nbh.html
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Yes, I think I did do a hard reset but I will try again in 5 mins. It was a bad flash cause it stopped in the middle I think.
Yup Both SD Card & SIM Card Removed.
Im guessing the only way I could fix this would be - get the original shipped ROM but so far I was only able to find a dump and not an actual update installer.
My SPL & USPL is 2.21 - So what do you recommend. upgrading the SPL and then trying to re-flash..
Would the TMobile ROM work because my phones Rogers branded and no Canada does not have the Vogue.
In answer to your question, it doesn`t go more than 2-3 % and then gives me an Update Error (270)
ahhh...this is driving me insane.
Thanks so much for the help so far. Really hope you guys can help me out here.
The main thing is if it flashes SPL only in general or if it does the same thing.
You might even try just flashing the SPL 1.11.11 from Pof from bootloader.
Or just flash the original SPL.
If it doesn't I don't know a way of unlocking in Bootloader.
But more heads will pop up with some Flashing Nightmares experiences soon.
Noonski said:
Did you to a reformat/Hard Reset on phone first and then tried to reflash?
Worked for me once when i ****ed up badly.
Reset Button and hold down Both call Buttons.
And maybe i should not ask this but you have removed both SD and SIM card?
I'm uploading a 2.26 Rom at the moment.
Doesn't Canada have Vogue devices like the US? (this is a real question i don't know)
Attached is a 2.26 SPL only.
How far does it get in the Flashing screen (45%)?
And here's Full T-Mobile NL Rom with 2.26 http://rapidshare.com/files/122419910/RUU_signed.nbh.html
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I just performed a hard reset and tried reflashing but still no luck. It gets to 3% then reboots.
In regards to what you attached, how do I go about doing it? Let me know. I downloaded the 2.26 SPL and the NL ROM.
Noonski said:
The main thing is if it flashes SPL only in general or if it does the same thing.
You might even try just flashing the SPL 1.11.11 from Pof from bootloader.
Or just flash the original SPL.
If it doesn't I don't know a way of unlocking in Bootloader.
But more heads will pop up with some Flashing Nightmares experiences soon.
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Original SPL being Rogers (Can't find it anywhere except a dump)?
k I'll try flashing the SPL 1.11
- Any other thoughts, bro? Thanks!
Did u tried SD card flashing??
Yeah, I did.
I tried the .nbh from the Rogers Dump and it says Invalid Certificate. I tried this other .nbh which said Dead_Elfin, still no luck and the Dopod Asia
I'm so mad/upset and I've tried so many methods to fix it. Is there no way I can get the Rogers dump to work in any way?
Hey man!
Somewhere in this thread (2nd page) a guy refers to a ROM that revives your half-dead Touch, "if you trust him"!
But you don't have anything to lose at this point,
so check it out! The link to the ROM is still alive.
Good Luck!
Regards!
kokotas said:
Hey man!
Somewhere in this thread (2nd page) a guy refers to a ROM that revives your half-dead Touch, "if you trust him"!
But you don't have anything to lose at this point,
so check it out! The link to the ROM is still alive.
Good Luck!
Regards!
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I tried that but it didn't work but I'm trying once more now. Hopefully it'll work.
lukybandit said:
I tried that but it didn't work but I'm trying once more now. Hopefully it'll work.
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EDIT: Didn't work, updates to 3% then reboots. Just Great !!! This is so annoying.
Erro 270, wasn't that image corrupt error.
Damn Olipro can't you help a Mod out yous.
Threaten to ban his ass.
When you say Dumped Roger's rom, you prolly mean dumped Roger's rom, then repacked with HTCRT right?
And not the official full Exe installer.
Noonski said:
Erro 270, wasn't that image corrupt error.
Damn Olipro can't you help a Mod out yous.
Threaten to ban his ass.
When you say Dumped Roger's rom, you prolly mean dumped Roger's rom, then repacked with HTCRT right?
And not the official full Exe installer.
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yeah, i meant the dumped Roger's ROM.
This is the most annoying thing I've ever had to deal with in terms of owning all my phones. I am selling this phone or returning it back the moment I fix it.
And I'd threaten but he hasn't done anything lol
I hope he does help me out.
Noonski said:
Erro 270, wasn't that image corrupt error.
Damn Olipro can't you help a Mod out yous.
Threaten to ban his ass.
When you say Dumped Roger's rom, you prolly mean dumped Roger's rom, then repacked with HTCRT right?
And not the official full Exe installer.
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i think its time we make it clear to everybody that XDA means SHARING to help everyone out and not to ask for money in return for something. XDA should only be for those ppl who can work hard for everyone without asking for money.
This phone was the biggest mistake I ever made in my life. I'm sick and tired of this already and I still haven't been able to get it fixed.
LukyBandit
I tried everything that these guys told you to do, NOTHING WORKS.
We have an operator branded device and do not have an ORIGINAL ROM to load in other than a DUMP.
Thats why we are stuck.
I am looking for someone local GTA that might charge less, but yes your TOUCH is fukked unless you are willing to pay OLIPRO $160CDN to fix a phone thats worth $200ish.
I am buying a TILT today, its not worth the stupid touch to fix.
What a waste of money that was. I am so happy my TYTN2 and my soon to purchase TILT has a HARD SPL to it.
Hi there,
Normally when I flash my rom and the device reboots automatically, I remove the battery when I see "Smart Mobility", place the battery back and do the hard reset.
I was wondering, is this the right way to do it? It sounds like you could mess up the phone by doing that.
never heard that... But I always do it the secure way: let the phone finish booting and then shutdown + hard-reset... costs you 2 minutes
regards
Personally I remove battery at smart mobility screen and hard reset before phone goes to automatic setup. I've flashed hundreds of roms with no issue doing this....plus it saves me a couple mins each time
Why Hardreset?
why is it necessary to make a hard reset ? When i flash my new ROM the HTC does make a hardreset itsself - or am i wrong with it ?
Fallen Spartan said:
Personally I remove battery at smart mobility screen and hard reset before phone goes to automatic setup. I've flashed hundreds of roms with no issue doing this....plus it saves me a couple mins each time
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I just hard reset it when you get the white screen saying update complete (sd flash method) duz me fine lol
g.tscharf said:
why is it necessary to make a hard reset ? When i flash my new ROM the HTC does make a hardreset itsself - or am i wrong with it ?
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Flashing a ROM, cleans only some of the files on the device, if I am not mistaking. If you do a hard reset, then you delete the extra "bagage", that the previous ROM left.
Cheers.
another silly question ...
Yes I need an answer dear Moderators and other senior members who have deeeeeep knowledge on this flashing pain...
Do i need to flash also radio ? or just flashing a rom will be enough ? I want to flash a ROM but I do not know if I need to flash radio same time ????
Please enlighten me about this issue.
Thanks in advance for your precious time.
mk888333 said:
Yes I need an answer dear Moderators and other senior members who have deeeeeep knowledge on this flashing pain...
Do i need to flash also radio ? or just flashing a rom will be enough ? I want to flash a ROM but I do not know if I need to flash radio same time ????
Please enlighten me about this issue.
Thanks in advance for your precious time.
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Radios and roms have nothing to do with each other, you could use 100 diffrent roms with your stock radio and there will be no problem, on the other hand diffrent radios mite give you better power management or reception
Personaly i`ve flashed 50+ roms and never hard reset anytime.
I`ve never had any issues and only suffer the same bugs that everybody else in the threads are suffering...
Hello All,
I have flashed my T-Mobile UK branded HD2 with an official HTC ROM using the GoldCard method and then to several Cooked ROMs using HSPL.
Does this mean my phone is now unbranded and I can flash other HTC Official ROMs without using the GoldCard method? i.e. how someone would flash an unbranded HD2 bought say from somewhere like mobilephonesdirect.
I'm aware my phone is still locked to the T-Mobile network which I'm fine with. My question is purely to do with removing T-Mobile's customizations.
I'm really asking because I want to be able to flash a valid HTC ROM to my device if the following happens:
I install HSPL
I flash my device to a cooked ROM
Something goes wrong
I can't get active sync to work/device won't boot into windows
I need to go back to official ROM for warranty
Cheers,
mac
If you use hspl no need for goldcard at all. you can flash anything from usb with hspl, official or cooked.
You dont need the phone to be booted to flash over usb. Boot to bootloader, connect usb, run the flash.
Thanks Sam,
I was under the impression you had to be connected via active sync to FLASH using HSPL (at least that's what the instructions say when using the tool).
But I still would like to be able restore my to a warranty friendly state.
Is my phone unbranded once I've flashed with the GoldCard or must I use the it every time I want to flash without HSPL?
Thanks,
mac
macgrewal said:
Thanks Sam,
I was under the impression you had to be connected via active sync to FLASH using HSPL (at least that's what the instructions say when using the tool).
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Yea thats a common mistake caused by the way the guides, and various other answers in threads are written.
When you connect the phone in bootloader mode, so long as the word serial changes to usb you should be good to go.
But I still would like to be able restore my to a warranty friendly state.
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Of course. You have two ways
1 (for both methods)- download the tmo original official rom, official roms thread, 1st post, 1st link, 1.43 folder.
then either
2 - extract the nbh file, copy it to sd card (no need for goldcard, stock 2gb card will be fine) rename leoimg.nbh then start phone in bootloader to flash.
OR
3 - STEP 1 - run the t mo stock you downloaded and flash over usb, which restores the rom to stock, and then STEP 2 - run HSPL2 again and choose the stock spl. (HSPL has 8 spl's listed when you run it, 4 stock and 4 hspl,) Choose 1.43.0000 and thats it, back to stock.
Is my phone unbranded once I've flashed with the GoldCard or must I use the it every time I want to flash without HSPL?
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That doesnt really make sense. As soon as you flash any method, the phone is then unbranded. removing the tmo rom is unbranding.
What YOU mean is ''is the phone rom unlocked?' and the answer is no, it will always be rom locked to tmo, (different to sim lock) so if you want to flash without hspl then you will need the goldcard.
Cheers Sam,
That answers my question. HSPL it is.
Is there a way of removing the ROM Lock?
macgrewal said:
Is there a way of removing the ROM Lock?
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only hspl. nothing permanent. (well, hspl IS permanent till you remove it, but you know what I mean)
Am i reading this correctly? You are saying that HSPL removes network sim lock?
I need to know whether i will be able to unlock my T Mobile UK HD2 on 1.42 SPL, after a HSPL flash and i have put another ROM on my phone.
Is there any way that flashing can remove the sim lock or prevent me from being able to unlock my phone?
no you miss read the post. rom lock is not sim lock.they're unconnected.
Can anyone answer this, so i can get on with it?
samsamuel said:
no you miss read the post. rom lock is not sim lock.they're unconnected.
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Okay thanks,
sorry i missed your post.
Do i have to buy and unlock code or is there a way i can unlock for free?
thanks again
randommann said:
Okay thanks,
sorry i missed your post.
Do i have to buy and unlock code or is there a way i can unlock for free?
thanks again
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your network will give you it, maybe, but they'll keep you waiting. lot if people successfully used pay sites and ebay. look around there are fitness of threads on the subject.
randommann said:
I need to know whether i will be able to unlock my T Mobile UK HD2 on 1.42 SPL, after a HSPL flash and i have put another ROM on my phone.
Is there any way that flashing can remove the sim lock or prevent me from being able to unlock my phone?
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Off Topic, but, a word of advice (and to all who may read this).
I have noticed a few of your posts asking stuff that is readily available in the stickies at the head of each forum section.
Things like unlock and memory available etc.
If you really want to know these things then read all the stickies, then search and then ask if you are still in the dark.
Jumping in with questions that have been asked many times over is not a great way to get the attention of members.
Remeber the stickies are there for a reason.
I`m going to start cooking custom ROMs for my diamond and i don`t want to lose[/brick] it, i want it alive.
The question is, what actually bricks your device, a wrong cooked ROM or too many ROM flashes? Or both? I know that importing a ROM from another device to your kitchen and flash it to your device bricks it. Are there other ways to brick it?
My device has about 50 flashes and about 40-50% are with MTTY[/TASK 29]. How many ~ flashes can take a diamond before brick?
Sorry if my english is bad!
One has to establish what the term "bricking my device" is really intended to describe. Historically, it is used to describe when a device cannot be resurrected from a non-booting state and is generally non-responsive to attempts to get into bootloader. However, being able to get into bootloader doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be able to flash and recover, as I have seen two occasions where the person could get into bootloader, flash the appropriate stock rom and when the device reset, it simply returned to bootloader.
I go through all of this to contrast the above scenarion against what some folks have started to describe as "bricking my device" ... which is a bad flash, where the device doesn't get past the boot splash, but is easily resolved by going into the bootloader and flashing a rom that is known to be good.
Generally, the risk of really "bricking your device" is low as long as you are flashing SYS/XIP/OS only roms for your device.
Most folks get into trouble when the start messing with the boot loader and / or radio.
Based on MTBF, it has been stated that the average flash rom included in these phones could probably flash somewhere near 10,000 times.
All IMHO ... you'll do yourself a favor and, in addition to asking via this thread, use google to search for existing threads to get a variety of replies, just so you have visibility into the range of answers that you'll come across.
Best regards,
-boggsie
Thank you for your reply! I`ll search on google too.
I think that this question has found its answer.
Thanks again!
thecrazyman64 said:
I`m going to start cooking custom ROMs for my diamond and i don`t want to lose[/brick] it, i want it alive.
The question is, what actually bricks your device, a wrong cooked ROM or too many ROM flashes? Or both? I know that importing a ROM from another device to your kitchen and flash it to your device bricks it. Are there other ways to brick it?
My device has about 50 flashes and about 40-50% are with MTTY[/TASK 29]. How many ~ flashes can take a diamond before brick?
Sorry if my english is bad!
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Okay, I learned it the hard way , cooking and flashing already costs me 2 devices.
The first device I only went back to my original rom when my devices acting weird, most of the time after 10 flashes, but after 6 months my device died.
My second device, I always flashed the original after a cooked build but that one only lived for 3 months.
So I decided to get myself another phone (all 3 phones are Niki btw) and only flash through sd-card, for now I already flashed my device 200 times without getting back to the original rom.
Regards,
Rataplan said:
Okay, I learned it the hard way , cooking and flashing already costs me 2 devices.
The first device I only went back to my original rom when my devices acting weird, most of the time after 10 flashes, but after 6 months my device died.
My second device, I always flashed the original after a cooked build but that one only lived for 3 months.
So I decided to get myself another phone (all 3 phones are Niki btw) and only flash through sd-card, for now I already flashed my device 200 times without getting back to the original rom.
Regards,
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Well, this is why i got scared, the chef of the ROM i am using bricked his second diamond yesterday. And the second device lived only 1-2 months, but it was a used one.
I made only about 10 ROM flash in the normal way, RUU and USB cable, but now i am only flashing from internal storage and before that i use MTTY.