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Overclocking TyTn

Hey i noticed u guys talking about overclocking the TyTn. Is this true? Can we overclock? I like to check how much we can speed it up. Man, if we go any faster, it will be like having a laptop in our pockets. Please let me know if there are noticeable difference and how much you can overclock the TyTn.

I am currently overclocking with xcpuscalar. I believe you can also overclock using pocket hackmaster. I am oc'ing to 472, although it is perfectly stable at 500. I wish I could the damn autoscale to work properly but it keeps shutting itself off.

Does the TyTn feel any faster when overcloked?
Have you run any benchmarks comparing the affects?

I haven't run any benchmarks. And honestly it doesn't feel any faster. It already fly's. I rarely have it bog down.

nickcerda said:
I am currently overclocking with xcpuscalar. I believe you can also overclock using pocket hackmaster. I am oc'ing to 472, although it is perfectly stable at 500. I wish I could the damn autoscale to work properly but it keeps shutting itself off.
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Part of that may be that XCPUScalar is designed for the Intel XScale family of processors. Someone I know tried Hackmaster but it didn't work very well. He posted to Anton Tomov's website about the issue on the TyTN's Samsung processor.

JNGold said:
nickcerda said:
I am currently overclocking with xcpuscalar. I believe you can also overclock using pocket hackmaster. I am oc'ing to 472, although it is perfectly stable at 500. I wish I could the damn autoscale to work properly but it keeps shutting itself off.
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Part of that may be that XCPUScalar is designed for the Intel XScale family of processors. Someone I know tried Hackmaster but it didn't work very well. He posted to Anton Tomov's website about the issue on the TyTN's Samsung processor.
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XCPUScalar seems to work fine at 500. Tried Hackmaster too, but
its froze my TyTN. Working autoscale would be sweet thou.
Gotta try and find some benchmarking programs to compare the speeds.
Any suggestions for a good one?
Must be working thou, since setting the processor to 100, makes the device very very slow.

Hmm, it seems XCPUScalar is faking the speeds, it works when "underclocking" but not when overcloking.
Cant try with pocket hack master, since it frozes up with any speed I try to test.

Has anyone been able to overclock the Samsung CPU yet? XCPUScalar doesn't seem to be working correctly as it was designed for XScale or TI OMAP... not the Samsung CPU.

Overclocking - is it possible?

i am wondering if there is any possibility to overclock the cpu of the HD as it was possible on old HTC devices with omap processors?
i often found the HD to be very slow and i would like some more speed 9as probably most of us)
would it be adviseble to overclock it?
thanks for any useful info!

would be very cool! i bet htc is running it in a ridicolous safe speed =)

no infos on that matter?
any tech guy with some more experience?
nobody?

i did some research in to the matter, and there are some things that can be changed but i believe its just timeings, at the moment it would appear that you can not adjust the clock speed its self.
Also, changing the timings seemed to have a negative affect on stability, id imagin that whilst the clock speed may be running low, the timings are about as tight as you can get.

anyone tried using Pocket Hack Master yet?

will try it out tonight

I tried it but it didn't work. May not have been the right version perhaps.
It was a few weeks ago so I can't remember what actually happened when I tried it sorry.

there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.

JohnQ said:
there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.
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Don't be coy. Let us in on the action

JohnQ said:
there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.
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i wonder what software that would be?
can you point it for us? any details about it? would it be dangerous for HD integrity?

just installed it, then bells rang..... ur processor is not supported, looked rubbishw when the app loaded up. all distored, defiantely not meant for our wvga. Soooooo whats this qualcom overclocking software... i will explore google see what i can find.....

id give up, i searched for ages to no avail, i believe the only thing that can we tweaked are various timings but it seems that almost any attempt improve these results in instability and crashing.

I'm not really interested in overclocking, but I saw this thread and remembered I saw somewhere else some info on this subject.
Perhaps this is something to try:
http://www.htc-touch-info.com/en/overclocking/

Updated: March 2, 2009
WTF?!?!?!anyone tested stability of the 2 day old version?

HappyLlama said:
I'm not really interested in overclocking, but I saw this thread and remembered I saw somewhere else some info on this subject.
Perhaps this is something to try:
http://www.htc-touch-info.com/en/overclocking/
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This won't work - the Touch HD has a Qualcomm processor NOT an OMAP

Yes Please let us in on the action

well, i've saw this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507798&highlight=overclock , but you guys read carefully, its apeears to be no effect, through if it has, every processor u overclock have its life shortened...i've a blue angel, 400 mhz working at a 200~530, xscale processor can do this (change it's frequency accordinto to the necessary) but i wond the Qualcomm ones do the same (according to the post appears to not, but it's no cleary).
everyone may say...so all you said righ now is a load of crap... Thats not, i'm just sharing wat i've discovered until now, since i've gone to blackstone few day ago.

Blackstone is slow?? I'm about to get it in several days. Please enlight me when comparing blackstone with Hermes (currently using). Thanks

damikey said:
Blackstone is slow?? I'm about to get it in several days. Please enlight me when comparing blackstone with Hermes (currently using). Thanks
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i think most if not all winmo is slow but i love it still lol

OverClocking Aria

Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?

I don't think that It could be clocked at 1Ghz, more like 700Mhz. That just seems more likely.
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larry996 said:
Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
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I would definitely enjoy 1Ghz on my little buddy. Sort of a mini Nexus

Has anyone even tried to overclock?

jznomoney said:
Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Never saw a stock kernel you could overclock. You could download setcpu and play with it. Maybe once we get some custom kernels it will work.
Not sure where the problem is with speed though - this thing is pretty zippy as it is.

Yea, it's pretty fast to me. I think the 600Mhz processor must be a different design than the old 528Mhz processor, because it seems to be much faster. I'm pretty satisfied as it is. Is there a certain app that is running too slow on your phone?

Yeah I agree that the processor Is great as is. I havent noticed any lag at all. even 3d games are running without lag for the most part. If it were overclocked the only difference I think that could be needed is performance with the gpu. Set cpu cant overclock the stock kernel but if we do get a custom kernel im sure we'd be able to overclock it.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.

gtg465x said:
You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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What makes you say the CPU is weak? I'm don't buy for a second that the CPU is a gating web page refresh speeds.
The CPU is not the same architecture as the old 528 mhz HTCs. The Aria does not need a 1 ghz Snapdragon to perform very well given the graphics requirement of the screen which has far less resolution to manage and requires far less from the both CPU and GPU, and given that this is a small smartphone, and not a game deck. You can't underestimate the difference in power required to drive a 480x800 compared to a 320x480 display. It's enormous for devices like these.
I am sure in time this device will be overclocked by some just because it can be, but the vast majority of us aren't worried about playing Warcraft on the Aria. People who want to do that aren't looking at the Aria is the first place, with it's 3.2" screen, which fits nicely wherever a portable phone might, but isn't going to make anyone go "oh wow, is that a flatscreen tv in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"
If you want to overclock yours, you are perfectly free to do so - once we get another kernel choice that supports it.

I think when you consider running Flash on your phone, there is NO such thing as too much performance.

When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.

attn1 said:
When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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I concede that you have a point.

we might need a kernal that support over 600mhz .

How did they overclock the driod? Is that kernel or setcpu?
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Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
Edit: unstable, nevermind

light24bulbs said:
Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
Edit: unstable, nevermind
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Untrue. It may be unstable for you but not everyone. I'm currently running at 825mhz, was running at 844mhz.
Your mileage may vary.

I heard overclocking 33% over stock is a good benchmark for performance.

[Q] The NAND version.

Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.

fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Maybe will be available in September, maybe not.
Use search function will be more helpful.

remember use the michyprima's zimage, it pushs my quadrant score to 1817

fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Good things come to those, who wait. ;-)
B.R.
d3m0n

JJbdoggg said:
how exactly do you know that? any proof?
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my mistacke...by overclocking each HW component works much more stable and cooler. I hear temperature is 10 c lower when you overclock hd2

i see your point but there are hundreds of people are using the oc'ed kernel in shubcrafts build yet ive seen VERY few complaints
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Everyone! i have suceeded in making teh androids run on teh nands the link is -***MOD EDIT- Link removed: Extremely obscene material.Immediate ban placed on this user account***

Problems ? i have E8400 Oc to 4.0 ghz for every day. its 100 % stable with custom cooling .
Thats does not change the fact he is runing much more hotter and more IMPORTANT his life span is reduced very much.
hd2 cpu OC'ed that much with no cooling at all can cause great deal of hw problems in long therm. be sure in that.

11cal cal i know oure problem,it ia because we are waiting for a new shui8 android build......we need some sleep lol...btw,i do not want a nand version,i want a nas version with network share so i can run android remotely haha..
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ognjeniHD said:
and melts down your hd2 cpu ...dough
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let me also say that overclock is optional. there are optimizations (code is optimized for armv7-a architecture, and other optimizations), but overclock is not enabled by default. w/ my kernel mhz range is 245-998.
Also CPU is downvolted so that means minor battery usage and higher cpu life due to minor voltage.
So why are you saying something that's not true?

@JJbdoggg
@michyprima you are talking about builds ( which only have OC option enabled ) and im talking about alrady Oc'ed devices with such builds

most builds do not have it enabled by default. atleast none that Ive tested. The kernal gives the ability to do it but it isnt set till setcpu is used.
My co-worker has been running his droid fulltime overclocked and has had no problems. I highly doubt any overclocking of phones is that extreme.
If the life span of your desktop cpu is reduced then you are either one applying to much voltage or two using not enough cooling.
Heres more info just to clarify.
http://www.overclockers.com/overclockings-impact-on-cpu-life/

i see i will have to explain some facts about overcloking so everybody understand, so we stop talking nonsense.
Each CPU have its own lifetime , some of earlyer Intel sockets had its lifetime of about 100 000 work hours.
Each time you give CPU more voltage, more than he is supposed to have, he is producing more temperature which offcourse lower his lifetime by certain amount of work hours compared to planed lifetime.
You all talk some nonsense, how some of your friends uses OC HW or phones few weeks or months. if you had time to read my post precisely, you could noticed i said in long therm.
Back again to OC..using custom cooling will only make cpu stable, will not restart or overhear due to over -voltage.
and there is many more factors that is making slighty different situation in hd2 cpu compared to pc...
Negative side is that there is no cooling..only positive side is that hd2 cpu is most of time working on 200-400 mhz depending on the thing you are doing on your phone at the time.
but be sure when you use his full potential, like in multimedia (gaming, playing video ...) in that OC condition, in long therm you are risking to cause HW problems on your phone because of over voltage -missing any kind of cooling that OC 'ed cpu.
my last msg about this.
Cheers

I guess he didnt read my exact post detailing the negative effects and how to determine them... I guess its nonsense even though its factual.

Making my Evo any faster?

So I've been messing around with different roms and kernels for the past few weeks and finally settled on CM6 6.1.1, and the snap 7.6 bfs kernel, for stability and speed. I turned on the turbo mode with snap, OC'd to 1152mhz (freezes at 1192), killed all apps, and ran quadrant.
[Picture of a 2330 benchmark screencap was supposed to go here, but I don't have eight post haha]
I know thats pretty good, my scores average from 2100-2350, but I'm looking to make it even quicker. What can I do?
Thanks!

Move to gingerbread.
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sultan.of.swing said:
Move to gingerbread.
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Which ROM and which kernel?
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Don't use Snap 7.6 on CM6.1.1, just use the stock kernel. The new kernel built in with CM6.1.1 is much better, Snap 7.6 is pretty old.
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I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC

xsaqzw said:
Which ROM and which kernel?
I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.

A benchmark does not actually show how fast your phone is....
Cyanogen himself stated this.

quadrant scores =/= to your phone being 'fast'.
But if you care about synthetic benchmarks then you could trick your file system into giving you quadrant scores in the 3000+ range.
by the way thanks for posting this in the relevant subsection of the evo forum dedicated to development this will absolutely further the development of android.

Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
Edit: and this goes in the q and a section

Lol okay then guys, so which gingerbread ROM and which kernel for the best efficiency and speed?

david279 said:
Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
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I couldn't agree more, how instant can a phone get? Theres a point where speed wont be relevant anymore and its pretty damn close to it already. In my eyes efficiency is the future, doing more with less is something im looking forward to.
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lexusmike said:
Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
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**** man I'm sorry I'm new to this forum.
Mods: Please move to the correct section.

Thread moved to General.

Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.

Oddly enough, I'd rather have the transition animations that come with some of the custom ROMs, even if they take longer. They provide a much more "fluid" experience. I don't like the jarring, speed-driven, animation-free transitions that come with stock ROMs, because they lack polish. As soon as I saw videos of those animations, I was in love. LOL. Seriously though, lag and lack of animations (which consequently actually help hide lag and load times) are the two things I see holding back the polish of Android. Just as an example (not trying start a flame war here, people), look at the animation when going from portrait to landscape in iOS. Then look at Android's lack thereof. THAT is what Android needs-to actually FEEL faster, not necessarily BE faster. So try something like that if you want the phone to feel more fluid instead of just achieving raw benchmark speed. Again, just my opinion (kind of sad that I feel the need to put that disclaimer in every post lately).

Award Tour said:
Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
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that is interesting.. thanks for the info.
I hope it does open some more performance and maybe a way to overclock the GPU

Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.[/QUOTE said:
Lmao
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