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below is an email i sent to faria seeking his help, i also decided to post it on the forum, in cae anyone else has some ideas, and in the event the problem gets solved the information is here for someone else who needs it
"I have a problem that i would really appreciate your advice on.
So i bought a cingular/att 8125 - G3 Wizard - on ebay for $40 the listing described it as having a broken lcd screen, so i bought an lcd as well replaced it and that element of it works fine. I turn it on to see that the dumbass somehow installed a rom with the IPL of 1.01 and the SPL of 3.08.
so im assuming that is the conflict keeping it from booting up properly, i can easily access the boot loader and flash almost any rom available.
my main issue is this, from what i gather, i need to bring the IPL up to at least 2 for it to be compatable, but any rom i try to flash that acctully replaces the ipl gives me , i belive an error 300 and says the updater tool is to old, so do you know any way i can update the IPL so it works.
thank you,
Adam"
Is it CID locked? I saw that message a lot when I had mismatched SPL/IPL and the CID was locked. Try running an older version of lokiwiz, it can unlock that combination (lokiwiz2b couldn't do it, but something from around October last year could).
Then try button ROM or an OEM ROM.
$40 is not bad at all, even with a broken LCD.
thanks you for the response i actully saw that post my self, but becuase of the fact that it doesnt boot beyond the splash screen i cant run active sync to use lokwiz , unless there is a way to run it without active sync and at the bootloader.
thanks though
u could always try a hard reset commanager and voice commander and then press on button and then press send once message comes up
Ok,
So I installed the T-mobile UK radio rom on my unlocked cingular HTC 8125 with a t-mobile sim. Upon reboot I get no phone service, it acts as though the phone is shut off but it's not. On bootup when it displays the IPL/SPL and OS and all that there was a line between the IPL / SPL lines and the OS line which used to have something on it, but now it's blank. Here's the worst part, it no longer recognizes on USB or under activesync, I tried to get it to work with bluetooth using a usb bluetooth adapter, but to no avail.
I need to know if there is anyway to get it working again, anyway at all to get it to connect or something so I can install a new radio rom on it.
Please help.
Help me too
I am in exactly the same predicament. I have spent days searching for a solution. Nthing so far. Anyone?
Rogue23
Well,only flashing a Radio Rom,never bricks a phone,cuz it doesn't include any IPL/SPL in it Its just a bad flash.Either,Try a Soft Reset or Hard Reset,if works fine,otherwise,get the phone in bootloaders (multicolor screen) and flash the cingular official Rom,it'll recover back. The phone doesn't get detected via usb or doesn't activesync if there's no working Rom (OS) on it,but if you are able to get to bootloaders and connect the phone via usb cable, a small usb appears at the bottom of the bootloaders screen,it means it has established connectivity and you can flash a rom.
Secondly if the ohine is not SIM unlocked,it won't work with a T-mobile SIM,you'll have to get it sim unlocked if you plan to use a different sim and network.
ericmda
Be a little more specific about the problem and remember to always post the version of the phone OR vital data of the phone to ask for an advise.
Cheers!
been done
yeah,
I've been able to get it into bootloaders, the usb pops up in the corner but when I try to flash a rom it it gives me a no phone connected type of error. which is really messed up because the first time I put it into bootloaders it worked, but I didn't use the official rom so the flashing didn't fix it.
If flashing the radio rom isn't supposed to brick it then well somehow mine is apparently the exception to the rule. Still gonna be working on it throughout today though, so any other suggestions?
Hey guys,
I have two WINgs and I Hard SPLed one already and I Flash it regularly
the other one was at the T-mobile Rom and stable till it starting restarting at every call.
So i treid to Unlock it also like the other one
So I backed up all my contacts and Messeges with PimBackup
and after i Installed the three files
security removal, Aserg and cannonyang
when I try to Hard SPL through RUU with USB so it tells me no connection although its connected in Activsync
I searched the forums and Bypassed the Connection issue by entering the Boot loader through the phone and it got to 2 percent and told me i need a newer RUU although it is the Same as the other Wing for the versions and I have done the other one Fine
when I tried to do it again and still bypassed into the boot loader through the phone it now tells me that There is no Connection to the device. Although the USB sign is available in the bottom.
Now I have Also searched the forums and found Aserg suggesting that we install the Native T-mobile Rom
It connected fine and went into
1% of updating Image and then it gave me a communication Error
Now I noticed two things:
1. it Goes into Bootloader and CHills there
2. It Changed the IPL number from 4.26.0000 to 4.10.0000
but SPL remained 4.26.0002
Does any one have a Solution for this Problem Guys?
Is it bricked now and I just can't see it?
Please help because all my contacts are are on it and i am working with crappy nokia instead of it that has none of them.
My heads spinning from all the information aka post and threads, but im still stuck like my wizard on the 2nd splash screen.
I wasnt trying to upgrade the rom jst clear storage but after everything ive read i would like to upgrade to wm6 but first i want to get my wizard working.
I tried backing up the rom to the sd card but I get "You didn't get the proper security level to download a specific image" So i take it my wizard is cid locked.
My IPL:1.01 and SPL:1.06 does that mean its a g3. My activesync 4.5 doesnt pick up my wizard is it because it cant boot, i tried with it in bootloader mode still doesnt pick it up.
So plz point me in the right direction to fix my wizard
ok i think the place where im stuck at is cid unlocking my wizard with out using that imei site. any help or is there another way to do this.
This helped me when I was stuck on the first screen. For some reason, the Radio file was gone. Follow this exactly, it works. In my case (sounds like yours also), at the end of this you will at least have access to the phone again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963&highlight=bootloader
After your done. You will have a RGB screen, then follow these directions to load a base rom and unlock so you can keep going until you ca load WM6.1.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
I've had many, many problems over the last 3 days trying to do this. I completed it all in less than a day, but when I used the phone it had terrible reception. I completely downgraded everything back to square one. Still bad phone reception. I was about to through it out the window, when someone called my wife's cell phone and she also had bad reception. I then put my sim in another phone, same problem. Well, at&t has a tower down for the last 3 days. What timing, it seems to work when not at home, but hard to test that way Anyway, moral of the story is. Don't give up, keep plugging along.
Good luck.
I'm pretty sure imei checker is for SIM unlocking.
For G3 CID unlocking and upgrading read the stickies in http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=289
If you can start your Wizard in bootloader, and it says "usb" in the lower-left, you can flash your original ROM. An active sync connection is not needed. Search for your carrier's ROM if you don't have it and I'd recommend the "no carrier ID" version of the RUU.
Have you tried a 'Hard Reset',hope it'll work,if it boots up into working OS and it already has IPL/SPL 1.xx,use lokiwiz02b tool to SIM/CID unlock the phone and than upgrade.
If it doesn't work still after Hard Reset,most probably,its Extended_Rom is corrupted,its required to reflash a new rom.
Activesync doesn't work in absence of a working OS and in Bootloaders mode.Its not required for flashing a rom.Just get the phone into Bootloaders and hook the phone with pc via usb cable and watch small usb appear at the bottom of the bootloader screen,if its there,it good to go and flash the rom.
ok so i downloaded the button rom finally but how do i flash it to my wizard.
Get your phone in Bootloaders,hook up the phone with pc via usb,watch small usb appear at the bottom of the Bootloader screen,if its there run the 'RUU' application,it'll start to flash,it stops at a certain percentage,don't get worried and do anything,after a couple of minutes it starts again,let it complete 100%,the phone'll restart and boot up in new OS.
which ruu application. I jst downloaded 1 which comes in the form of a rar file saying ruuwrapper. is that the right 1
So after lots and lots and lots more reading i realized i dont need a ruu. all i need to do is get into bootloader mode plug in the usb and run the wizard button rom. It worked perfectly my wizard is back to life yip pee.
Anyway i wud jst like to thank u guys for all the help and compliment u guys on a gr8 forum.
Now my next challenge is wm6 with touch flo.
I unlocked a Cingular 8125 and went to load TNT Professional ROM. The phone kept losing communication at 99% and when I went to reload the original ROM from HTC's site, now I have NO O/S. I DO have another one, but my wife is using it until we get her a pink BlackJackII. I really like these phones, and can't believe I crashed this one! I don't have any Mini-SD cards. Any way to rebuild this thing?
Nobody has any ideas for me? I really need to get this phone running again!
Your not using Vista are you?
Most comm errors are due to weak or discharged battery,not having enough juice to complete the the flash,get it fully charged and try again,secondly,Yes! don't use winVista.
Download the official stock rom and flash to recover back.Get the phone in Bootloaders (RGB screen) hook up the phone and watch small usb appear at the bottom of the Bootloaders,if its there,run the rom to flash,it'll start to flash,but if small usb is not present than most probably its a comm fault.
I was using a Win2K machine. I had 2 batteries that were fully charged. I have a friend that will lend me his miniSD adapter and use my 1gig microSD card to get the info off my wife's phone and copy it to this one. He has a Sprint version of the AT&T Tilt. Might see if he wants to check out this site.
OK. I have access to a miniSD card now. Do I just take my wife's 8125, make a backup from it, then put the card in the bricked phone and load bootloader?
Read this thread for more specific instructions :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
But this method will only work if both the devices are already CID unlocked.Secondly,most important,both the devices shud be of same DOC Chip version,G3 or G4.If you back up a rom of G3 on a G4 device,it'll brick it and vice versa,make sure both the devices are of same DOC Chip version.
They are both G3's. I think they may even be from the same batch. If I unlock hers, won't I lose all her data?
YUP ! but first make a back up of all the personal data on her phone to your pc,for this use either 'PimBackup' or any similar back up application and than unlock it.Its necessary to have both phones CID unlock,otherwise,this method won't work.
OK, I used Lokiwiz 3beta and superCID unlocked the other one. When I run mtty, and use the r2sd all command, I get
R2SDBackup()-Download type=5
usTotalBlock= 1 sizeof(SDCARD_SIGNATRUE_TABLE)=512
I have left it sitting there for an hour and nothing else happens. Isn't it supposed to have several more lines of text scroll by? Also, I can't figure out how to get the dead one to boot to the miniSD.
ok,did you read the method carefully,the link I posted above ? you are getting it correctly.
This methods involves many steps.
Step 1.
Back up all the data on your wife's phone to your pc with 'PIMbackup',than downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx either through flashing 'Button's Rom 1.05 or you can even flash official stock rom Aku1 for this,when getting IPL/SPL 1.xx either way,apply lokiwiz02b and not lokiwiz 3beta to CID unlock your wife's phone,or you can use WST_4.2.2 tool also to CID unlock it,but its must to have IPL/SPL 1.xx to CID unlock in both the ways.Only after getting the phone CID unlocked,you can Backup the rom on a miniSD card.
Step 2.
After successfully back up of the rom on miniSD card,insert this card in your dead phone and get the phone into Bootloaders mode (RGB screen).
Step 3.
Run the MTTY command to back up from miniSD card.This is only possible if you already have this phone CID unlocked,otherwise it won't work.
Both the devices must be CID unlocked.
Although,I'm still not sure if it works,but there's no harm to try,may be it gets going.
Is the progress bar supposed to change back and forth from blue-green to red while flashing?
YUP ! it changes during flash,but it'll become green on 100% completion and the phone reboots.
OK. I can't get this thing to take the WizardLove ROM, can't find Button's ROM, but I am trying to load the XDAMiniS ROM now. On my third try and the SPL still says 2.25. Battery is fully charged and I get an immediate connection failure trying to load WizardLove. I really wish I could find the original Cingular ROM for this phone, not the new(er) update.
Download Cigular official stock rom from here :-
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8125/software-downloads.html
or
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
Check out this link for all the Roms like Buttons Rom T-mobile 2.26 etc
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
I am just about ready to give up on this thing. No matter what I do, when I try to boot it up regular, it still keeps freezing up and when I try to do a hard reset, I get a format is failed error message.
Last ditch effort
Can I use WST to make a backup RUU from the working phone and flash that to the dead one? All other attempts have failed to restore this phone.
I dont think so
Men you are already doing everything!!!
Does you have mtty... try this please it may works for you let us know what happend please...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420785 the man in this thread stucks on splash screen so read just the mtty steps.
BTW does you unlock your wife's phone... is yours unlocked too? before do it...please respond.
The hope dies at the end!!!!! we have so much to´pics about this issue... why you are runing windows 2000? nad make upgrades? or does I missunderstood? extremely recomended Win XP.
I have Vista at home, and I read where many people here say that you can't do reflashes with Vista, so I use my computer at work, which runs Win2K. I haven't unlocked the second phone, but I thought that I did the first one. That was why I went to flash it. I wonder if the unlock didn't take and that put me in this predicament.
I understand now
Maybe a mistake using windows milenium or 2000 or whatever...
So if it say format failed i cant imagine other thing that do the thing i post you... so if you got questions about clear DOC Chip ask everything...
when you already get everything in a XP machine tell us please oh just for a recomendation unplug the minisd and during the process the mtty working on some lines dont launch programs check your USB cable maybe with a little scratch and moving makes a false contact at all.