On my T-Mobile (USA) MDA, so far I've just used the standard stock ROM, the latest of them that came out.
As I'm having some problems now with my MDA (not sure if hardware or software), and would hope to keep it going until a good 3g smartphone is available on T-Mobile, I'm thinking of reflashing the ROM, reinstalling my software, etc.
So, if I'm going to have to reflash it anyhow, I might as well try one of the many cooked ROMs available on this web site.
There seem to be many of them on this site, with so many very long threads devoted to them.
I don't have time to read through all those threads, to try to determine which ROM would be best for me to try. So, if people could sum up in this thread, which are the best ROMs and why, it would make it easier for me and others.
I would want one that is very stable, used by many without problems. Having problems with the phone anyhow, I don't want to risk a ROM that will bring more problems.
Preferably WM6, even more preferably 6.1, but if those ROMs are not as stable on the MDA as the WM5 Roms, then I would go with the latter.
Anyhow, curious to hear people's feedback, regarding the best of the Wizard cooked ROMs.
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I don't have time to read through all those threads, to try to determine which ROM would be best for me to try. So, if people could sum up in this thread, which are the best ROMs and why, it would make it easier for me and others.
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Um, don't you think someone would have done this by now?
What you are asking (and believe me when I tell you, you are not the first, or the last, to ask it) is a subjective question, with subjective answers, no two of which will be the same.
While the idea is a noble one, it's been asked for by just about every new person on these threads (I probably did it too, once).
The simple answer: read the list of software on five or six of the most recently published ROMs at the Wizard Mobile 6 list, and flash the one you like best. These days, almost all of them are G4 safe, so you probably don't have to worry about that, and as long as you keep a copy of your service provider's base ROM, a copy of the Hard SPL, Soft SPL, and maybe a copy of Wizard Love ROM, you'll do fine.
Better yet, just stay with WM5 if you want stable. Stability's not really one of the high points of home-cooked ROMs, in my opinion.
Maybe you don't even need to flash. If you're having a hardware problem, flashing could be a bad idea. If your hardware decides to glitch while you're in the middle of a flash, you won't be waiting to get a new phone, you'll be in the store before you're ready. Why don't you try starting a new thread with your symptoms, and see if we can't help you solve your problem, instead of trying to mask it with a new ROM?
I'm sure you are right that there is subjectivity involved, that different people have different opinions. So--give your opinions.
I didn't just ask "which is the *best* rom", which would have been a very subjective question, such as "what is the best car", or "what is the best food". I specifically described my case, that I'm not interested in experimenting with 20 different ROMs, but asking which ones could be considered stable and safe (not risky and experimental), while providing better functionality than my present one.
Yes, as I wrote, I am having problems with my MDA, which I think could very likely be hardware-based, and will not be fixed with re-flashing. The only way to know is to try though. The phone is a few years old, I am thinking of getting a new one soon, but waiting until T-Mobile has a 3g WM smartphone available, that I like.
Why would re-flashing be something to try? I figure just like if one is having software problems on a computer, that one cannot fix, one thing to do is to format the hard drive, and reinstall the OS, start from scratch in installing applications, etc. A lot of hassle, but it can work, to solve problems. Re-flashing a phone is similar, wiping out all data, starting new, etc. Sure, the most stable way would be to flash back to the same ROM I'm using now, the latest official one for my phone. But while going to the trouble of doing that, it seems like an opportune time to try one of these newer ROMs, that I've been curious about for some time, but never bothered with before.
What are some of the problems I've been having? (This just started a couple days ago.) Neither Bluetooth or Wi-Fi will turn on, for instance. OS freezing up a lot. Definitely seems like I need an OS reinstallation, and AFAIK on the phone, the way to do that is through re-flashing.
True, after down-flashing to an AKU 1 ROM for the purpose of CID-unlocking, and going back to my current 2.26 T-Mobile AKU 2 ROM, I should try the phone out a little from there, make sure everything's working, before flashing to one of the newer ROMs. No use wasting my time further if the problem is indeed hardware-based.
Edit--just occurred to me--I should probably try a hard reset before trying any re-flashing. If I still have the same problems after a hard reset, I guess I can assume the problem is hardware-based. I forgot how to hard reset my MDA, and cannot find the manual at the moment. Would someone like to remind me how to hard reset it?
In any case, I would still be interested in hearing ROM recommendations, although I am aware that different posters will have different opinions.
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Um, don't you think someone would have done this by now?
What you are asking (and believe me when I tell you, you are not the first, or the last, to ask it) is a subjective question, with subjective answers, no two of which will be the same.
While the idea is a noble one, it's been asked for by just about every new person on these threads (I probably did it too, once).
The simple answer: read the list of software on five or six of the most recently published ROMs at the Wizard Mobile 6 list, and flash the one you like best. These days, almost all of them are G4 safe, so you probably don't have to worry about that, and as long as you keep a copy of your service provider's base ROM, a copy of the Hard SPL, Soft SPL, and maybe a copy of Wizard Love ROM, you'll do fine.
Better yet, just stay with WM5 if you want stable. Stability's not really one of the high points of home-cooked ROMs, in my opinion.
Maybe you don't even need to flash. If you're having a hardware problem, flashing could be a bad idea. If your hardware decides to glitch while you're in the middle of a flash, you won't be waiting to get a new phone, you'll be in the store before you're ready. Why don't you try starting a new thread with your symptoms, and see if we can't help you solve your problem, instead of trying to mask it with a new ROM?
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This question have been asked and answered hundreds of times,if you cared to read and searched the forum,sure you cud have decided which version best suits you,but if you are looking for shorcuts,well,no one can help you here.Just an example check out this link ,there was no need to start a new thread for this :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371223
Hard Reset
Press and hold the Comm Manager button and Voice command button,keep the two buttons pressed and at the same time,use the stylus to press the reset button.
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This question have been asked and answered hundreds of times,if you cared to read and searched the forum,sure you cud have decided which version best suits you,but if you are looking for shorcuts,well,no one can help you here.
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Unfortunately, this kind of snide reply seems to occur on every kind of forum--people who think it more important to criticize those asking for help, rather than helping them.
Was I looking for a shortcut? Damn yes I was! Anything wrong with that? Hell NO!
I have read a lot on this forum. There are probably hundreds of threads and thousands of posts devoted to the subject of the many alternate ROMs for the HTC Wizard.
Yes, I have other things to do with my life, than spend 24 hours per day, 7 days per week, researching the different ROMs for the HTC Wizard. My whole life is not devoted to the Wizard. If that is a problem for you, so be it.
Not having time to read every ROM thread, trying to decide which might be the best for me, I described some of what I was looking for, my preferences, etc., and asked the knowledgeable people here, to perhaps summarize a little, what are a few of the best ROMs, how they compare with one another, to perhaps make suggestions for ones I might be interested in, etc.
I think that would probably be of interest to others as well as me--to see a Wizard ROM summary thread--contrasting and comparing what might be considered some of the best of these ROMs, what advantages and disadvantages one has over the other, etc. I think such a thread would be very useful, and could even be made a sticky.
Yes, I'm sure others have asked similar questions before. Is that a problem? No. Every forum has similar questions that are asked. Every time new people see the new thread, there are new contributions and point of views expressed, new insights brought to light, etc. Even if the question is similar to those asked before, there will be new answers.
So, if you get your kicks making snide comments to everyone who asks for help, go ahead and do so. That is not a very useful way to contribute to a forum, however, IMO.
HOA!!!
Grrrrr8 lecture,I'm impressed.
But when there already is a thread started for the specific purpose,there's no need to start a new thread for this.If you don't have the time to read and search,than this forum is not for you,coz this forum believes ib 'Search & Seek' and BTW! respect for others and particularly seniors,I believe.
As for giving my help to others,you are most welcome to search and read all my threads,you'll appreciate its full of help and appreciations from the members whom I have tried my best to help and solved their problems.The thing is not to criticize,but to direct to the right solution,there was nothing in it which might have offended you.
How important was your question,you can judge by the response it got in 5 days,only 2 ? you posted on 10/9/2008,that proves its importance,got my point,there was no need to post such a question ,which has been posted and answered hundreds of time,its just merely wastage of forums resources!!!
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So, if you get your kicks making snide comments to everyone who asks for help, go ahead and do so. That is not a very useful way to contribute to a forum, however, IMO.
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It's too bad (and more than a little ironic) that what you are doing now is exactly the same kind of NOT CONTRIBUTING to this forum in any positive way that you accuse him of, opinion or not. In fact, looking through the threads you've started, it appears you have never contributed anything .
You might feel too busy to read the posts that others took the time to write (just for people like you, I will point out), but don't expect sympathy when you get the ban-hammer for starting a flame war because you think somehow your time is more valuable than everyone else's time here.
...a Wizard ROM summary thread--contrasting and comparing what might be considered some of the best of these ROMs, what advantages and disadvantages one has over the other, etc. I think such a thread would be very useful, and could even be made a sticky.
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There is a thread like this already, and zabardast_1 already gave you the link. Try to pay attention instead of just starting up your buzz saw. Again, you'll be the one that gets banned, not him.
Read the threads behind each of the ROMs. The posts detailing the bugs found will give you some idea of the stability of that ROM. You're on your own, now, since you copped an attitude. Staying friendly is the only way to get help around here, from now on.
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It's too bad (and more than a little ironic) that what you are doing now is exactly the same kind of NOT CONTRIBUTING to this forum in any positive way that you accuse him of, opinion or not. In fact, looking through the threads you've started, it appears you have never contributed anything .
You might feel too busy to read the posts that others took the time to write (just for people like you, I will point out), but don't expect sympathy when you get the ban-hammer for starting a flame war because you think somehow your time is more valuable than everyone else's time here.
There is a thread like this already, and zabardast_1 already gave you the link. Try to pay attention instead of just starting up your buzz saw. Again, you'll be the one that gets banned, not him.
Read the threads behind each of the ROMs. The posts detailing the bugs found will give you some idea of the stability of that ROM. You're on your own, now, since you copped an attitude. Staying friendly is the only way to get help around here, from now on.
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I did not start a flame war. I started a thread,asking for opinions on the different ROMs. It was he who started to personally criticize me, not the other way around. It wasn't I who "copped an attitude".
I never said that my time is more valuable than anyone else's here. I don't think that at all, and did not imply it in the least. However, some people apparently spend many hours per week on this Wizard ROM stuff. It seems to be a major hobby with some here. That's great! But I don't have the time to get involved to that degree. As said, I don't have the time to read thousands of posts about different ROMs. So, I think it would be good for many readers, to have a summary thread about them.
my favorite
After flashing over 50 different phones, the one I use most often is TNT's Official Wizard. But again, thats personal preference.
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After flashing over 50 different phones, the one I use most often is TNT's Official Wizard. But again, thats personal preference.
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This men is lazy and always needs the things easy, let him search... if not... let him with his wm5 or his wizard bricked, hope it wont happend.
all the web is full of his threads... saying stupid things , then said i dont want to start a flame...
HAHAHA
but he has the exactly words to tell you stupid like a gentleman!!!!
Hi Folks,
I've had a TP2 for a while now and modded it loads of time with help on this site and wanted another unit with android so I bought the magic from another user on here called thedalmeny, the deal went through flawlessly may I add.
I am not a noob when it comes to modding but I am when it comes to the magic! I have a Vodafone branded Magic in the UK 32B.
Now the Magic was rooted when I got it and has Qteknology Devs Roms for VodaMagic 32b.
How do i find out which SPL has been used on it?
Also, I'm finding this rom to be a bit slow, which one's could I use instead?
And i'm getting a notification, "SD card is damaged" it's asking me to format it. If I do this via the phone is that ok?
thanks for the help.
I don't wanna be an ahole, but seriously. You just asked a ridiculous question, it's the most simple and most basic question. it's answered EVERYWHERE because you NEED it if you even wanna root your phone, it's the first thing you check. Seeing as how you modified your TP2, you should have some knowledge on how to look up info yourself. Please don't tell me people spoonfed you every step of the way.
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How do i find out which SPL has been used on it?
Also, I'm finding this rom to be a bit slow, which one's could I use instead?
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Have you even tried looking for help? Start here: I click on the dev section and theres a bunch of stickies. People also always ask which roms they could use, take a look at the other 8126189217 threads. But seriously: Do something yourself. Spoonfeeding = more horrible questions. I don't see why your questions should be answered here when they're all already answered elsewhere. Trust me, you'll continue asking more and more. There's a lot you have to know and you could learn all this if you read things and searched.
As for the third question, I guess thats an ok question, not really but sort of. Why is it not ok to format via phone? I don't see how it could damage it more or anything. Just make sure everything on your sd card is backed up incase.
Hopefully from now on, you can do some research yourself and if you get really stuck, we'll definitely help.
Haha, love it. Don't worry, I don't take offence easily!
Come on, I see these types of questions all the time and they always get answered.
Yes, I realise this one has been answered, not exactly the way I would've liked it but still it is much appreciated.
I have already done a whole bunch of reading, I just wanted the learning curve not to be so steep...
Flashing a TP2 rom seems a piece of cake compared to all the messing you have to do with the magic.
My real q was to do with the SD card really, I added the other 2 as a cheeky try to get info easy, don't worry, lesson learned.
The reason why I asked about the SD card because I've read that you need to partition this and that and did not want to format the sd card incase the format would not make all the necessary partitions and it would in some way brick the phone. I know, I know, how could the sd brick the phone. Just wanted to check.
Cheers.
Yeah the learning curve is a bit steep, but if you need help or something you can just send me a pm and hit me up on google talk or something. The SD card only has to be Fat32 and you're set. Theres other things such as swap/ext partitions which are explained in other help topics but to be honest, you don't need them. It's more for the old G1/Dream devices. You can use swap if you want but I find my phone perfect without it. if I'm correct, it may even cause some damage on your sd card (although im not 100% sure). But yeah, if you really do need help (I personally find it easier talking to someone rather than reading a billion instructions as well) then let me know via pm.
after those hundreds of proplem with android we need then to go to the windows again
when i used android from the first time i have many proplems and no one can answer it not even me this great forum full of android proplems
i think we just spent our money with this uneasy system from google
hundreds of android mobiles will be on the hell after few weeks
thanks
Are you kidding me? After all the problems I had w/ winmo, I will never go back.
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after those hundreds of proplem with android we need then to go to the windows again
when i used android from the first time i have many proplems and no one can answer it not even me this great forum full of android proplems
i think we just spent our money with this uneasy system from google
hundreds of android mobiles will be on the hell after few weeks
thanks
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BLASPHEMY!!!
Most problems you find here is related to cooked kernel/roms there isnt based on official magic releases.
Anyway if you cared to make a bit research before starting topics with questions there is answered a lot of other places, you might get a bit more help. The questions asked by you has answers in the wiki and the sticky topics, you even asked question where you already wrote the answer. It's important to read carefully and understand the things you're about to do.
If people can see you got a problem which is either hard or doesn't have a solution for it anywhere yet, people are more likely and happy to help.
But as far as i understand is that right now you need to get fastboot to work. So first of all get the SDK and make the driver working for it so you can connect your device with adb. You'll find information about this in the wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking#sec02
Good luck!
salah_heart said:
after those hundreds of proplem with android we need then to go to the windows again
when i used android from the first time i have many proplems and no one can answer it not even me this great forum full of android proplems
i think we just spent our money with this uneasy system from google
hundreds of android mobiles will be on the hell after few weeks
thanks
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Windows=limited potential
Android= OpenSource= Unlimited potential
What you're lacking to understand that the devs here are dealing with an OS that has only existed for 3 years. While the exact same windows coding has been used for close to 20..
furthermore.. you can not compare the problems with WinMo to the Android problems. WinMo problems where because of ****ty devs. Android problems are from stupid users who can't follow clear directions. I've done over 100 successful Android flashes, and probably 1000 some tweaks to my phone over the past 2 years. Never once have I had an issue. How do you ask? Cause I do my research, I know my coding, I follow directions. Android modding isn't for people who don't know code and who are e-tards. If you want your safety net go back to WinMo. Now go play with an HD2 and tell me how it feels to have a phone with a 1ghz processor only do 2.4mflops because the OS is horrible and then feel stupid cause you can a lame phone with WinBlows on it.
If I update my new shiny Trophy to the Mango beta that's been hopping around for everyone lately, is there a method to sideload apps?
Thanks all
ieAnd said:
If I update my new shiny Trophy to the Mango beta that's been hopping around for everyone lately, is there a method to sideload apps?
Thanks all
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YOu should really watch the Windows Phone 7 area...
lol sorry, I'm quite new to this. Only grabbed the device yesterday. I've been an Android person through and through since the launch of the original Droid, so this is all new territory. I'm guessing that's a hint to head that direction. Specific links are always appreciated though otherwise I'll just do more snooping tomorrow. It's not quite like Android, Google-ing my questions doesn't always yield answers. Or perhaps I'm just not googling the right thing. Time will tell.
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lol sorry, I'm quite new to this. Only grabbed the device yesterday. I've been an Android person through and through since the launch of the original Droid, so this is all new territory. I'm guessing that's a hint to head that direction. Specific links are always appreciated though otherwise I'll just do more snooping tomorrow. It's not quite like Android, Google-ing my questions doesn't always yield answers. Or perhaps I'm just not googling the right thing. Time will tell.
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With NoDo, Assuming your in the US, you got the Verizon Trophy that was shipped with the NoDo update. Your only method to "unlocking"(to allow you to sideload or other mods) your phone is to go with a Dev-unlock.
It's a process but, you could get it unlocked directly through MS, for dev reasons. If you have a .EDU address, it could be free.
So, in looking for a unlock, you do have a Nodo based device, so use that as a general look when you looking for updates or unlock methods.
If your a Noob with WP7, spend some time in the WP7 areas and READ !!! Spend a few hours reading the threads, save yourself headaches later... and Do some searches before asking questions, most newer questions have been asked a ton of times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605
Good luck !
(PS. If your going to Mango, you can Dev-unlock fine but, Backup, Backup, Backup....Don't understate this)
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With NoDo, Assuming your in the US, you got the Verizon Trophy that was shipped with the NoDo update. Your only method to "unlocking"(to allow you to sideload or other mods) your phone is to go with a Dev-unlock.
It's a process but, you could get it unlocked directly through MS, for dev reasons. If you have a .EDU address, it could be free.
So, in looking for a unlock, you do have a Nodo based device, so use that as a general look when you looking for updates or unlock methods.
If your a Noob with WP7, spend some time in the WP7 areas and READ !!! Spend a few hours reading the threads, save yourself headaches later... and Do some searches before asking questions, most newer questions have been asked a ton of times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=605
Good luck !
(PS. If your going to Mango, you can Dev-unlock fine but, Backup, Backup, Backup....Don't understate this)
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Thank you kind sir, that's what I was looking for. And I do have a .edu account so I'll definitely look into that! I was loathe to ask this question because I know it's always frustrating to see a question asked that has an obvious answer elsewhere, I simply did not know where that elsewhere was. With Android pretty much any question is a basic Google search away, and if not that then simply go to the device-specific forum but it seems it's not quite that way with WP7. Or perhaps it is and I was just immensely confused. Regardless, now I know where to start though You are most kind.
ieAnd said:
Thank you kind sir, that's what I was looking for. And I do have a .edu account so I'll definitely look into that! I was loathe to ask this question because I know it's always frustrating to see a question asked that has an obvious answer elsewhere, I simply did not know where that elsewhere was. With Android pretty much any question is a basic Google search away, and if not that then simply go to the device-specific forum but it seems it's not quite that way with WP7. Or perhaps it is and I was just immensely confused. Regardless, now I know where to start though You are most kind.
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Just want to help if I can.
Just remember if you get it unlocked, with mango your limited to 3 Sideloading apps and on CDMA(Verizon or Sprint) based devices there is no current work around for it. With NoDO if you apply the reg hacks, you are unlimited as far as I know for sideloading. Note the limits before you pull all your hair out.
Again, going to mango, make sure you have a backup, you can NOT update to the final version if you do not restore.
Don't forget the thanks button if I helped you, that's all I ask.
If you need to deploy more than the 3 limit in mango, I figured it out....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15791198&postcount=109