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Hi !
Here's an utility to scroll the current window. And i do mean SCROLL, not jump page by page.
Since i got my first PPC, i didn't like the way you're supposed to read stuff, i wanted to scroll down, but pressing the down key jumped one page down. I wanted a smooth scroll, so i made one myself.
How it works:
1. Run the app
2. Minimize it (either with your favourite task manager or tap Start/Today) - DON'T CLOSE IT
3. From now on, the UP/DOWN keys scroll the content of the current window - smooth scroll
Volume Up / Volume Down also scroll (a bit faster) - this won't work on some devices that have custom use for the volume keys.
4. You can disable/enable when needed by mapping a button to RKeyScroll Switch (each tap switches between scroll mode / normal mode.
5. When you're finished with it, run it again, or activate it in your task manager and press ok in it (left softkey)
Limitations:
2. It doesn't work in Start/Programs and in Word/Excel (maybe Powerpoint) - I don't know why
If you find other programs (MAJOR PROGRAMS - WHICH MANY PEOPLE USE) that don't work, post here - please don't spam and don't post a program that doesn't need the scroll anyway.
I tested this on my Toshiba G900 (if scrolling with Volume keys, don't hold them pressed) and my wife's HTC Touch.
PS: thanks to Nagakubo Tomohiro (creator of PQz and PQzII) for trying to help.
Change Log:
Code:
0.04b - 26 June 2008
- command line options (by default the app has scroll enabled):
ss - switch scroll mode - only used if app is already running
son - turn scroll mode on - can also be used on startup
soff - turn scroll mode off - can also be used on startup
only use one command line option at a time
this is useful like this:
- In Windows/StartUp copy RKeyScroll Off.lnk to start the app every time the system starts with scrolling disabled
- In Windows/Start Menu/Programs there's RKeyScroll Switch.lnk -map this to a hardware button of your choice (thanks to fisch3009 for the idea)
- made the install easier - packed as a CAB - creates all shortcuts, for automatic startup you must copy manually
- G900 version has scroll switch mapped to camera tap (it cannot be remapped with windows anyway)
0.03b - 25 June 2008
- separate version for Toshiba G900 - this i can test on ;)
- fixed OK button on Toshiba G900
- when no scroll is possible, buttons do what they normally do
- added smoother scrolling on volume up/volume down
- changed the code to avoid future bugs ;)
- still a bug: when start menu/quick menu is opened, it still scrolls the window beneath
0.02b - 24 June 2008
- first release
Hope you like it !
RPG
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great idée, thanks man
hi rpg
is it possible to use fingers ? instead of up/down buttons
is it a problem using TouchFlo ?
salut monpsy , toujours à fouiner LOL
brunoisa10 said:
hi rpg
is it possible to use fingers ? instead of up/down buttons
is it a problem using TouchFlo ?
salut monpsy , toujours à fouiner LOL
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If you want to get your finger in the way while reading something AND get your screen dirty, use TouchFLO or SPB Plus for finger scrolling
Great Idea! I'm looking for a automated "timer" type scroller? Where you put like 10 seconds in the setup, and it would automatically scroll a page every 10 (or whatever seconds). No need to touch screen or dpad...
This is very cool. I sometimes have trouble reading through my thumb
I notice it still tries to scroll in the application that it can control even when it is not the current focus application.
Could you make it deactivate when the focus program is something it doesn't work in?
Also make it run in the background so I don't have to run it everytime I want to use it.
E.g. when I am in IE and I activate QuickMenu it still scrolls IE and ignores QuickMenu. Also you mention it doesn't work in File Explorer, likewise in Total Commander you can see the scroll bar move but the screen doesn't scroll.
Possibly have an exemptions list similar to FTouchFlo (I can see you don't like this) so we can add programs that we prefer the D pad to work natively in. Also any chance of kinetic scrolling?
Keep it up!
evojulz said:
I notice it still tries to scroll in the application that it can control even when it is not the current focus application.
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Fixed in 0.3b, i will post it later today.
evojulz said:
Could you make it deactivate when the focus program is something it doesn't work in?
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In 0.3b, if it can't scroll, the buttons resume their normal functions, so yes.
evojulz said:
Also make it run in the background so I don't have to run it everytime I want to use it.
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It's already like this - you just run it once, minimize it, and change windows, it will scroll the active one (unless there are bugs )
evojulz said:
E.g. when I am in IE and I activate QuickMenu it still scrolls IE and ignores QuickMenu.
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Fixed in 0.3b
evojulz said:
Also you mention it doesn't work in File Explorer, likewise in Total Commander you can see the scroll bar move but the screen doesn't scroll.
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For me it works in Total Commander. When i have more time, i will try to see why it doesn't work (how to make it work) in the others.
evojulz said:
Possibly have an exemptions list similar to FTouchFlo (I can see you don't like this) so we can add programs that we prefer the D pad to work natively in. Also any chance of kinetic scrolling?
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I don't like the idea of an exception list - i want to keep this as simple as possible. On my Toshiba G900 i can disable the scrolling with the camera button - so this would solve the problem of using the DPad as a DPad when needed. I will see how I could add this functionality to other phones (i just need the camera button code)
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Keep it up!
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Thanks, I will. And thanks for the very good feedback.
This program is a great idea, i missed this feature long time.
I don't like the idea of an exception list - i want to keep this as simple as possible. On my Toshiba G900 i can disable the scrolling with the camera button - so this would solve the problem of using the DPad as a DPad when needed. I will see how I could add this functionality to other phones (i just need the camera button code)
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Perhpas you can add an command line option to switch on and off the dpad scroll function, so everybody can map the software to his or her preferred hardwarebutton.
fisch3009 said:
This program is a great idea, i missed this feature long time.
Perhpas you can add an command line option to switch on and off the dpad scroll function, so everybody can map the software to his or her preferred hardwarebutton.
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That's a great idea !
I thought i would make the button configurable in the registry, but the user should know the code of the button. Your way is a lot simpler. I will add it in 0.3b tonight before posting it.
You saved me a lot of time.
Thanks !
Cool, will link to it in my next misc news article.
nice nice idea...
Maybe this is already known, but I cannot change the volume with the scroll-wheel during a call.
Perhaps you also fixed it in your new version. Tnx anyway.
johanromijn said:
Maybe this is already known, but I cannot change the volume with the scroll-wheel during a call.
Perhaps you also fixed it in your new version. Tnx anyway.
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Fixed in 0.3b.
0.03b released
still to do - enable/disable scroll with a button
still to fix - when start menu is opened, the up/down keys scroll the window beneath instead of selecting items in start menu
0.04b released - now has enable disable mappable to HW button
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0.04b released - now has enable disable mappable to HW button
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Wow, fast development
Installs from CAB and maps to my camera button great.
The switch command doesn't turn it on and off, just opens the RKeyScroll dialogue the same as the RKeyScroll On command. Is this supposed to happen?
I would like it to start and run silently and not even show up in the running programs list and then stop when the switch command is run again.
BTW, still doesn't work in Total Commander for me.
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Wow, fast development
Installs from CAB and maps to my camera button great.
The switch command doesn't turn it on and off, just opens the RKeyScroll dialogue the same as the RKeyScroll On command. Is this supposed to happen?
I would like it to start and run silently and not even show up in the running programs list and then stop when the switch command is run again.
BTW, still doesn't work in Total Commander for me.
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Weird, for me the RKeyScroll Switch disables/enables the scroll and the window doesn't get activated(just like i programmed it to do).
Oh, I know. You're closing the app and then running RKeyScroll Switch. Don't click "OK" - this closes the app. Just minimize it, and then press the button mapped to "Switch" - it will work. It will not activate the window again.
About the silent start: That's how I want it to behave, but i got sleepy, so... 0.5b will probably do that.
Just a shameless bump
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DredSensor v1.3a:
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Now DredSensor should be compatible with other device than HTC Touch Diamond.
Historically, if you have tried to play a game needing left and right key on an HTC Touch Diamond, you noticed that they are 2mm wide and if you click next to it, you get back to home page or to dialing menu etc...
So I've written a prog allowing you to lock these 4 keys actions and replace it by classical key event (VK_LEFT, VK_RIGHT, ...).
In that way you can play tetris, and use "Pick-Up" and "Hang-Up" keys for going left and right.
I extended it to let you configure each app independantly, and choose between four (five) mode:
"HardKeySimul": replace the 4 keyz by classical key event
"Launcher": allow you to quicklaunch 4 app (that you define in the config wnd) when you double tap (not click, just tap) on one of those 4 keyz
"Scroll": allow you to scroll the current window by tapping those 4 keyz panel
"KeySimul": allow you to send left/right/up/down events by tapping those 4 keyz panel
"--- Disabled ---": Disable specific HTC Touch Diamond Sensor functionalities.
Now, i've added an alternative Key Mapping, that let you map an action (or another key) on normal click and long click event on any other key that the up-described four.
So if you don't have an HTC Touch Diamond, the only mode you can choose is "--- Disabled ---" but you can define "other key mapping".
Link ->: DredSensor-v1.3a
To use it, you need:
1) A Windows Mobile SmartPhone
2) Install the .cab
3) Reboot your SmartPhone
4) Run a game (or app or ...)
5) Get your stylus out and back-in, in less than 1 second
6) Click "Yes"
----- A config window opens:
7) Choose the Type you want.
8) Reassign the actions to the events, if needed.
9) Assign "other key mapping", if needed.
10) Click "Ok"
Other Key Mapping:
To add a key mapping, a popup opens and ask you to press a key.
If you want to assign an action to normal clic, just clic on the choosen key.
If you want to assign an action to long clic, clic more thant 1 sec on the choosen key.
Then you have to choose the action, and it's done.
If you only assign an action to a long clic on a key, a short clic on this key should work transparently.
Have fun.
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If you like this program, feel free to donate:
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Version history:
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New features in v1.3a:
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Added an alternative key mapping that Should be compatible with any Windows Mobile device.
Added the "KeepAlive" option. Check this if you want DredSensor to prevent the smartphone to sleep when this application is loaded.
Added possibility to Enable/Disable DredSensor:
Exemple of C++ code to do this:
#define WM_DREDSENSOR_START WM_USER+22
#define WM_DREDSENSOR_STOP WM_USER+23
Disable:
HWND m_hDredSensorWnd=FindWindow(_T("DredSensorWnd"),NULL);
if(m_hDredSensorWnd!=NULL)
SendMessage(m_hDredSensorWnd,WM_DREDSENSOR_STOP,0,0);
Enable:
if(m_hDredSensorWnd!=NULL)
SendMessage(m_hDredSensorWnd,WM_DREDSENSOR_START,0,0);
New features in v1.2g:
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Fixes a few bugs
Fix the bug in config window when loading prog list
Added a debug mode:
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For activating it, just launch DredSensorDebug.exe (in /Program Files/DredSensor).
First it will tell you if DredSensor is running or not.
If it's running, it will activate/deactivate the debug mode so you will find a log in /Program Files/DredSensor/Log
If you have trouble with DredSensor:
Restart your HTC
Launch DredSensorDebug (to activate log)
Wait for DredSensor to stop working
Launch DredSensorDebug to know if it's still runing or not.
PM me the log, the config.ini and a description of the problem.
New features in v1.2b:
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Tried to fix the conflicts with TouchLockPro and similar, hope it works (thanks for those who can check this out)
New features in v1.2:
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Fix "not working bug" with new ROMs
Allow you to choose wether you block the scrolling wheel or not
Allow you to disable the vibrator effect.
Allow you to delete configs.
Tips:
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If you upgrade to this version, you can keep your config file.
To define a profile that applies on every applications, launch config tool and edit "Default" config.
If the key you want to affect is not listed, you can define it manually:
Type "Key:[email protected]@", with @@ = VKey code of the key you want to affect.
You can find VKey code list on : http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
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DredSensor v1.1d:
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Link ->: DredSensor-v1.1d
New features in v1.1d:
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Let you choose which Key/Action you affect to each key.
Launcher Mode let you affect an Action for:
Double Tap event
Click event
Long click event
An icon for config tool is created in Program list.
Cache Program List for quick loading in Config window.
Fixes a few bug from v1.1, v1.1b and v1.1c
Tips:
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If you upgrade to this version, your config file will be cleared (sorry ).
To define a profile that applies on every applications, launch config tool and edit "Default" config.
If the key you want to affect is not listed, you can define it manually:
Type "Key:[email protected]@", with @@ = VKey code of the key you want to affect.
You can find VKey code list on : http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
Wonderfull!!
the app is working good for me now! I just love the scrolling with only a touch on the d-pad
Thank you!!
I suggest you stop making a new thread for every new version and instead update your original thread and post that you've updated it.
After installing and lunch program .... i cannot see any of EVENTS on Events tab. Windows "wait gif" is rolling all the time and nothing happen :/ (i talk about mapping under HardKeySimul
Kraize said:
I suggest you stop making a new thread for every new version and instead update your original thread and post that you've updated it.
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That's what i wanted to do but i didn't found a way to update the post title...
Is there one?
thanx for the update I'll try it and report
Thanks for the new version! And thanks for adding the OK button command!
Seems to be working better than the last version although pressing the back key (which I have mapped to click right) a few times in quick succession does seem to send a back command. Pressing the home key in quick succession doesn't have this problem.
Also, I can't get the scroll wheel to work despite leaving the "Block scrolling wheel" box unchecked. Am I doing something wrong?
antlane said:
Thanks for the new version! And thanks for adding the OK button command!
Seems to be working better than the last version although pressing the back key (which I have mapped to click right) a few times in quick succession does seem to send a back command. Pressing the home key in quick succession doesn't have this problem.
Also, I can't get the scroll wheel to work despite leaving the "Block scrolling wheel" box unchecked. Am I doing something wrong?
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Hmm.. For the scrolling wheel, i use a tricky solution that works on my HTC touch diamond. May be it doesn't work on your model or on your rom version...
If someone have an idea on how to send a "ZoomIn" or "ZoomOut" event to a window (or how to develop an application that catch ZoomIn and ZoomOut events), that would help a lot...
As far as i studied the problem, it seems that ZoomIn and ZoomOut events are equal to Up and Down keys, but comming from a "rocker" .. so I can send those Up/Down key events, but no idea of how to tell that this comes from a "rocker" (and i don't even have an idea of what a "rocker" is...)
Help?
Wow, this is great! I am still loving the ability to remap my home key (and the others), and I really like the new scroll wheel feature. Actually, for me, instead of zooming in some apps, it now seems to scroll just about everywhere -- which is perfect, I like that more anyway.
Is there any way to donate or buy you a cup of coffee? I'd like to as a thank-you.
What an absolutely brilliant program!
Thank you very much Dredger97!
Greeting
Slide
ldrn said:
Wow, this is great! I am still loving the ability to remap my home key (and the others), and I really like the new scroll wheel feature. Actually, for me, instead of zooming in some apps, it now seems to scroll just about everywhere -- which is perfect, I like that more anyway.
Is there any way to donate or buy you a cup of coffee? I'd like to as a thank-you.
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Well if you insist , i've added a donate link in the first post...
Big thanks to all for your positive and constructive comments
TF3D and DredSensor don't play nice together
This program is awesome! You can do so much with it! However, I am having one small issue with it. It appears that if I use it on Manilla [TF3D], that it works initially, but over time it seems to stop working and ends up freezing Manilla. The start icon still works, all the unmapped hardware keys still work and the task bar is still live. Only Manilla is frozen. If I don't map any keys on Manilla, it works fine for hours. But it only takes about 1 or 2 hours before there is a freeze on Manilla.
Any thoughts on how to correct this? I would love to use this program from my Home screen on Manilla.
Long click event → vibrate/nomal
Hi,all!
i want "Long click event" of Endkey to set vibrate/nomal.
how edit setting?
sorry for my english!
thanks.
downloaded v1.2, opened resco picture viewer,Got stylus out and back-in, in less than 1 second, tapped yes.
than for type i choosed disabled, but nothing, every time i press any hw key it does what it need to do(home to home, back for back, hangup close..)
what am i doing wrong??
intel286 said:
downloaded v1.2, opened resco picture viewer,Got stylus out and back-in, in less than 1 second, tapped yes.
than for type i choosed disabled, but nothing, every time i press any hw key it does what it need to do(home to home, back for back, hangup close..)
what am i doing wrong??
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Well, disabled means "DredSensor is disabled" so it's normal that your hw key do what it's supposed to.
If you want to disable the hard key, you can:
- set Type: Launcher
- set "Click" action = "Misc:Nothing" on one of the keys.
So it will catch the hard key action, and do nothing when you click on it.
For me it doesn`t work :/ windows "Wait" gif is always apperaing when i want to add new Event. :/ And there is no Events on the list ...
tried that but same when i press home it goes to home
i have tried that on wmp.
is this program always turned on,now when i remove and than get back in stylus no menu pops up?!?
Great Job!
the app finally works on my pda! so glad you solved this bug!
But I still have a little problem...the app runs fine, when I start the buttons work with the function that I chose, but after the first time I use it it crashes and stops to work. Am I the only one with this problem?
Thanks,
Michele
Dredger, I asked in the last thread, but didn't get a response.
As far as mapping other buttons goes, could you post a quick example of what I would type in the config.ini to map the center D-pad button to act as the "left" button.
I realize the buttons commands are listed in the link you provided in your first post, but I'm having a little bit of trouble figuring this out.
Thanks.
Great app btw.
I'm gonna have to have another go at this... For some reason I just can't wrap my head around the setup of the program.
Hi,
How do you guys do a multiple selection in lists such as email list or sms list? It's allways scrolling, impossible to do multiple select!
It goes...
I have Czech Rom, so maybe it is called otherwise...
In sms list tap right menu (MENU) - Select Messages - Several (maybe another some etc)
then select sms you wants and menu - delete for example
Thanks, I just realized after posting the message that it's possible to scroll the menu and to find the "Select messages" submenu.
but what about the other selections
while i am using the file explorer, i can not make multiple selections. i opened the menubar but there was no thing like selekting aditional files or of such kind pls advise!
German w6.5 on Mega
Thanx
You can use the Edit/Select All option but it only selects all the files. I didn't found the way to select only some files.
I select it in Pocket Total Commander, in the botton bar is CTRL button
Dear All,
I have same problem in Excel. I tryed selecting more cells for quick summary some numbers, but not all, and without typeing like =sum(c4:c7)
Has anyone some issue for this?
doczyus said:
Dear All,
I have same problem in Excel. I tryed selecting more cells for quick summary some numbers, but not all, and without typeing like =sum(c4:c7)
Has anyone some issue for this?
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you need to use the stylus, tap-hold-drag. the hold must be just long enough to select and 'grab' the first cell but not long enough the bring up menu.
Hi All,
today i installed SPB Pocket Plus, a great app, but when i want to customize it, i experienced a problem, i could not view items in a drop down menu, it just shows 1 item and could not select another.
For example; when i want to change the Tab header position, it give me a dropdown menu, default is 'On Top', but i could not select another
could i change the settings for a dropdown menu in the registry, of is there somewhere a fix for it?
Using a Deepshining ROM with WM 6.5.
Thanks in advance!
i had the exact same problem which look like to be a rom issue but you can use the down arrow on the d-pad,it'll get u to the next option
when i press on the Down button on the d-pad. nothing happens.
There must be a registry tweak to modify the length of the dropdown menu.
looks like the SPB software modified is, because when i remove it, i could change 'button behaviour' . after installing SPbs software i couldn't.
when typing a character when the dropdown menu is selected it will change it., so defenately the length of the menu is not set correctly.
it used to work for me but all of theat was gone when i updated my rom,ofcourse i don't suggest that u do that for such a minor issue
it used to work for me but all of that was gone when i updated my rom,ofcourse i don't suggest that u do that for such a minor issue,sorry posted twice.
(first sorry for my english ... i do my best)
hi all !
1) i want to know if is it possible to use the "slide view" menu only
I wanted to know if it is possible to use the menu "slide view" only as first homescreen (like spb, home, tilewave, ... )
Otherwise, I found many very useful application for the X2
2) after reset my phone i lost a ringtone -> Orient
anybody have this one?
thank's a lot
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hi all !
1) i want to know if is it possible to use the "slide view" menu only
I wanted to know if it is possible to use the menu "slide view" only as first homescreen (like spb, home, tilewave, ... )
Otherwise, I found many very useful application for the X2
2) after reset my phone i lost a ringtone -> Orient
anybody have this one?
thank's a lot
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1)yes,if you know the registry keys (and know how to change them so they will work) for the hardware ''slideview/panel manager'' button;
you need to make a new panel with a sony ericsson panel maker and assign the file SlideView.exe to run when you open that panel