Help on disabling some startup items - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

I wonder if anyone can help me understand how to prevent a few processes from starting up automatically. As far as I can tell I don't need them, and in the case of those related to email (mailwatcher, sevenSettingsApp) they are actually sucking up so much CPU that my device isn't working correctly.
APLauncher
Mailwatcher
Mediahubmini
sevenSettingsApp (sometimes I have 2 instances of this!)
Thanks!
AJ

Check folder 'windows\startup' for shortcuts to these apps and delete the shortcuts.

joemanb said:
Check folder 'windows\startup' for shortcuts to these apps and delete the shortcuts.
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Thanks. These are services, I think, not applications, so they won't necessarily appear there. I also can't find them in the usual places in the registry, at least not by a recognizable name. I'm using MemMaid to scope things out too, but it doesn't list these things by name in the startup programs or processes.
For instance, MemMaid tells me that sevenSettingsApp.exe is currently running, but I did not manually start it. However, MemMaid also tells me that this application is not included in the startup programs or services (at least by that name).
At the moment I'm assuming that I'm not recognizing something for what it is. For instance, MemMaid tells me there's a startup service called DTPT. No clue what it is. But I'm guessing I need to use MemMaid to remove some of these items from the startup queue in order to kill the unwanted services that I CAN recognize.

have you tried task manager? it might give you more or better information..and its free
http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm

Well that's a wonderful little utility! I like that a lot and it's found a permanent place on my phone. Unfortunately it didn't tell me anything about how to stop APLauncher or Biotouch from launching. Oh well. At least I think I've figured out sevensettingsapp and mailwatcher. Those were the biggest problems for me.
Thanks!
AJ

You have to replace those files, check my sig, under Tips, there is a link under HTC Cube to fix that, just be sure you know what your doing!

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Another Possible Slowdown Reason

This may be just for me and not affect anyone else, but I found a signifcant speedup solution for the sluggish WM5/Universal. Remember the 'ol "Notify Queue" problems with Windows Mbile 2003 where every reboot would add one or two duplicate notification events to the notify database? Supposedly it was fixed for 2003 SE (but it wasn't). And you would think it was fixed for WM5. But maybe not.
Again, maybe it's me only because of something funky I'm doing, but using Scary Bear's free Notification Check utility, I discovered over 200 duplicate notify events. I went and deleted them and suddenly my Universal was much faster, even at rebooting and syncing. Just to make sure it wasn't a fluke, I used the device for several days. The performance is noticibly and consistently better.
Every reboot still adds one or two events and the auto clean on bootup utlity of Scary Bear's does not work with WM5, you have to use the application and delete each one by hand (that does work). But keeping this notify database clean has helped me tremendously.
I don't know if it will work for you all, but it might be worth a look if you are havoing slowdown or (like me) calendar problems.
Why not use Pocket Mechanic or MemMaid's noticifation scanner? Gives you more system functions at the same time.
Eh, I had bad luck with Memmaid last time I tried it. It tends to clean up too much stuff, including stuff I don't want cleaned up
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cktlcmd,
MemMaid's notification scanner does not clean as effectively as Scarybear's one
Not sure about Pocket Mechanic since its not WM5 compatible at the moment
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FOSA said:
cktlcmd,
MemMaid's notification scanner does not clean as effectively as Scarybear's one
Not sure about Pocket Mechanic since its not WM5 compatible at the moment
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Thanks for these information.
I just tried Check Notifications from Scary Bear. It is as good as MemMaid and Pocket Mechanic. There were no new notifications detected by Scary Bear. All notifications that were shown on both Pocket Mechanic and Memmaid were also shown on ScaryBear. Again there was nothing new added to the notifications done with ScaryBear.
Another question, is Scary Bear FREE? When I was installing it, a message appered that I need to buy the application after the trial period. Now I kept looking for the registration page but I can't find it. Is Scary Bear FREE?
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Yes, Check Notifications from Scarybear is FREE!
If I look with Scary Bear Check notifications, I see numereous (>50) entries of sddeamon.exe, is it save to remove all the duplicates as shown in red?
Richard Schmidt said:
If I look with Scary Bear Check notifications, I see numereous (>50) entries of sddeamon.exe, is it save to remove all the duplicates as shown in red?
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It is used by the built in Voice Dialer utility. I don't know why it keeps loading in the notify database. Since I use Microsoft's Voice Command instead of the built in voice dialer, I removed the sddeamon link from the Startup folder and deleted all the sseamon's. I haven't had any problems - or have the sddeanon's return tol the notify database.
If you do use the built in voice dialing util, you probably can't remove the link from startup like I did, but you can probably remove the sddeamon's from the notify database. It shouldn't hurt things though I can't say for sure.
Removing all sddemon.exe seems to work just fine. I noticed a reduced reboot time. Thanks for the feedback.
Sorry to revive such an old thread, but how exactly have some managed to install scarbears notification free app on their device. I keep getting a message saying that the app is not suitable for my device, even after extracting the app from the zip file

8125 Slide-Out Keyboard

I can be on this website, or any other, and EVERY time I slide out the keyboard, instantly my device closes the websites and go back to the Today screen!This is a replacement 8125 because the one I had replaced did the same thing, and now this one is doing it, too.Any info please!HELP!Cingular 8125ROM 2.25.11.1
Did you install any additional software on the device?
Does it close everything on your device or does it only shut down the Internet Explorer? You can check if it was clsed completely in START -> SETTINGS -> SYSTEM -> MEMORY - Please open another application and then start IE, slide out the keyboard and check if all running programs were closed or only minimized.
My first question would be about any additional software that's been installed, too. I've never had that problem with my 8125 and can't replicate it, either -- by using the ActiveSync passthrough connection, EDGE/GPRS or WiFi.
What third party software do you have installed??
Junner2003 said:
Did you install any additional software on the device?
Does it close everything on your device or does it only shut down the Internet Explorer? You can check if it was clsed completely in START -> SETTINGS -> SYSTEM -> MEMORY - Please open another application and then start IE, slide out the keyboard and check if all running programs were closed or only minimized.
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Actually after closing from the internet, it does go back to the Today screen no matter what I open from the start menu. Settings or Programs will not stay and the internet was minimized. I have several 3rd party apps installed. How do I know which one/s are giving me this problem?Cingular 8125ROM 2.25.11.1
List what software you're using so we can do a comparison and see which one might be the offending program. It's either that, or uninstall them one at a time to check it out.
newbie2 said:
List what software you're using so we can do a comparison and see which one might be the offending program. It's either that, or uninstall them one at a time to check it out.
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After doing a soft re-set to fix, I opened file explorer which is factory installed, and not 3rd party, then I opened the internet back to here, slid out the keyboard, and the device still converted to its landscape mode and went back to the Today screen, and nothing when tapped stayed on. Do I need to uninstall everything and re-try the keyboard?It has to be somewhere in the keyboard, because I slid out the keyboard from the Today screen, nothing was opened, pushed the keyboard back in, tapped on settings in the start menu..did not stay, went back to the Today screen. I pushed the red phone hardware button out of curiosity, and was able to have settings or whatever to stay on after that.If I don't slide out the keyboard, the device works fine.Cingular 8125ROM 2.25.11.1
Just out of curiosity -- how much storage memory and program memory do you have??
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Just out of curiosity -- how much storage memory and program memory do you have??
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20MB of each.I have 85% of everything on my 512MB storage card.
use Task manager, or Move 3rd party application to your SD card
You can try by moving all your third party application to your sd card(one thing you have to remap your registry setting to the new location). Then switch off your phone, remove the sd card and then switch on the phone. now almost your 3d party application are stoppped. while on it will give some link not found error. in My cases when ever i am facing problem with 3rd party application i am doing this, But this is at your own risk.
One oter method. Install Batery Pack Pro. With Which you can see the minimized process In the top by taping downward arrow.(if the process minimized)(This one you have to buy.It is not Freeeeeee )
Or Use Task manager with which you can activate the minimized window.
My optionis 3 or 2 one.
Well,
I would do a hard reset on my device, then installing every single application step by step and check afterwards if internet will work before I install the next one! That seems to be the only way to figure out what application causes the problem!
A soft reset won't really help because of some programs start with the device or at least they start some services!
If you can safely back up your device I would say go for it and try to find that app what screws up your device! After you located the program do not install it anymore but try to find a similar program what does the same job! Nobody wants to have faulty apps on his device! And if it does something like shutting down your running programs ... - ... who knows what else it does!
BTW: It could be a 'non-really-harmful' virus which might stick in one of your apps ... depending on where you downloaded your programs from! Since you have exactly the same issues like on your previous model ...
After a lot of troubleshooting, I discovered a 3rd party software called Today Player by MBRO, found at FreeCabs.de had the virus that gave me this problem. I re-installed the other programs I un-installed, and now my 8125 is working like it's supposed to do. THIS IS A WARNING.. I WOULD NOT INSTALL TODAY PLAYER BY MBro. if I were you! I want to thank everyone that took their time and concern to help. You're a bunch of great guys!!Cingular 8125ROM 2.25.11.1
I think your initial post gave us all a clue that it would be software-related -- especially since this was a replacement for a phone that did the exact same thing.
Glad you were able to isolate the problem!!!
newbie2 said:
I think your initial post gave us all a clue that it would be software-related -- especially since this was a replacement for a phone that did the exact same thing.
Glad you were able to isolate the problem!!!
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Yeah,
and I wouldn't even say that it is a virus (unless you downloaded it from emule or so?) - can also be a 'dirty programming': people write an application, test it on a WM5 PPC and it works fine, so, they go ahead and release it for all WM5 and higher. The main thing they often forget, is, to write a clean code following the Windows API!

Start up processes on Touch HD

I have some processes tmail, opera9, etc that I manally stop every time I use the phone.
( Via task manager )
I have looked and serched all around the forum and cant find anythimg bar blating the phone with a new rom
I stop these processes and save about 10-15MB ... any one have any ideas? or software to use to kill them for good?
1. Have a look in the windows\strartup folder and see what's in it. FI poutlook, etc. Delete whatever you do not want to startup "on its own".
2. Give Memmaid a try (not freeware). It shows you running processes and enables you to terminate/kill them, although not forever.
regards, Kuzibri
ram
Yup looked in start up folder.. does not contain opera9, etc , there is the poutlook in there but I dont want to stop that .
with the task manager programe yuou can also terminate procceess, and it's freeware ..
any one got any ideas? of how to stop things loading at start up?
is there like an msconfig option / app for the phone?

Apps always opening themselves

I'll shut down all apps in the task manager and then a little later I'll open it again and there will be a bunch of apps that just started themselves and ran in the background (apps that I didn't open myself). Dildroid would open itself every few minutes so I uninstalled it. "HTC Checkin Service" opens itself all the time too. I think there are a couple more that do it but I can't remember off the top of my head. Why is this happening and is there any way to stop it?
It is part of the design of Android.
When you install an app, it registers itself with the system and one of the options it has is to automatically start. There are several apps in the market (one is called AutoStarts IIRC) which can override this behaviour.
Note that Android is quite adept at managing resources, and will start kill unnecessary processes/tasks when it needs to. Some people (myself included!), believe that it is better to allow Android to manage itself, rather than using a task killer, but others absolutely swear by the efficacy of task killers.
Regards,
Dave
Is there any benefit to allowing apps to auto start? I don't understand why they would need to, or why they would even want to start by themselves?
foxmeister said:
It is part of the design of Android.
When you install an app, it registers itself with the system and one of the options it has is to automatically start. There are several apps in the market (one is called AutoStarts IIRC) which can override this behaviour.
Dave
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Is "AutoStarts IIRC" a paid application? Because I can't find it on my HTC Hero in Europe. Are there any alternatives? I would very much like to be able to manage the autostarts, since I have 3-4 applications that I haven't even launched yet, that always run in the background and hog about 50MB of RAM. Thanks
MapleDouglas said:
Is "AutoStarts IIRC" a paid application?
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It's just called AutoStarts.
"IIRC" is short for "If I Recall Correctly"
Regards,
Dave.
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It's just called AutoStarts.
"IIRC" is short for "If I Recall Correctly"
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That makes it clearer Thought it was an acronym, even though I didn't recognize it, so I excluded it from my Market search. So I still can't find it there, I'm afraid. And the QR code on Androlib led to an invalid Market address... Hmm. Do you know of any alternatives?
Well, it is in fact a paid application like I asked. No wonder it didn't show up
you also need to be Root so you can disable/enable components!

[Help] Apps keep starting after killed

I am having a SGS asia version with latest firmware.
i have rooted it with su access and using process manager to kill those unwanted application (google map, double clock, and others....) running from behind.
but after certain time (range from 1 hour to 2 hours), those unwanted application will load back and take up the memory again. I have to manually killed them again and the remaining RAM is reduced in the process.
Is anyone facing similar problem ?
anyone know how to permanently stop this ? is there any program in the Samsung that keep summoning those application ?
Thank you.
Ya, I've this problem too, but mine is the stock firmware.I've no idea what causes those applications to launch themselves.
yes, a few of my friend also facing this problem. that is why i am thinking is some professional here can help us on this question.
Thanks
If you have rooted your phone, download this app called startup manager from market place, then disable these apps from the start up process. Viola, no more.
Seifer1975 said:
If you have rooted your phone, download this app called startup manager from market place, then disable these apps from the start up process. Viola, no more.
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Is this startup manager for choosing which applications to auto start during soft reset only though?
You might also want to give "automatic task killer" from the market a go too, first app I would install after flashing roms.
Seifer1975 said:
If you have rooted your phone, download this app called startup manager from market place, then disable these apps from the start up process. Viola, no more.
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I have installed startup manager application and already disable them at the startup. But they still coming back once a while when the phone is running......
I have successfully stop them from launch at the starting but after a while, it keep coming back. What is more irritating is once i kill them, they launch again 1-2 hours later....
i am thinking , is there any application running underground which keep "calling" them ?
After reading the help section on the system panel I installed, apparently the way android works is by loading up apps that it thinks you might need, so that when you do open them, they're already sitting there ready. system panel shows you a list of apps that are open on your phone and running, open but in the background, and those that on standby. Most task killers only show all these as being open, when they actually all aren't. The maker of the app strongly advises against continually killing all apps, unless any of them have a problem. Anyway, that's just what I read.
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After reading the help section on the system panel I installed, apparently the way android works is by loading up apps that it thinks you might need, so that when you do open them, they're already sitting there ready. system panel shows you a list of apps that are open on your phone and running, open but in the background, and those that on standby. Most task killers only show all these as being open, when they actually all aren't. The maker of the app strongly advises against continually killing all apps, unless any of them have a problem. Anyway, that's just what I read.
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I see. Now it does explains everything. Sounds factual to me, if you've read it in the help section of the system panel. Thank you.
Facts are so important in problem solving.
Can you tell us which apps are started every hours like that ??
On my side I would like to know if the following app can be killed :
* Device management
* DRM protected content storage
* SNS
*com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una
* com.sec.android.providers.downloads
*mobile AP settings
* Mobile Tracker settings
* Log provider
* My upload
* Settings
thanks

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