Hi,
As some of you already know, I'm working on a touch UI (www.touchxperience.com) which will include an integrated profile manager. But it won't be a simple profile manager, it will allow you to create what I called "Custom Events", to execute predefined actions when a certain event occurs.
I would like to hear suggestions or advises from software design experts as well as end users about how should be designed user interface.
The principle is simple, each custom event is defined by:
A basic event (application changed, location changed, new message, new incoming call, battery charging, device cradled, headset connected, Wi-Fi network detected, internet connection detected, keyboard open,...)
Eventually some conditions (date/time, current application, current location, specific words in message, caller identity,...)
An action (launch application, display notification, enable flight mode, turn on Wi-Fi, change profile, send message,...)
There will be hundreds of events and actions, so possibilities are very large! Here are some examples:
Enable flight mode during nights
Connect to Wi-Fi while battery is charging
Deactivate alarm when I turn my device face down
Put phone in silent mode at workplace
Remind me to buy bread when I’m near to the bakery
Events, conditions and actions may eventually need some additional info: specific time, application to launch, bluetooth mode (on/off/visible), active application title, message text,...
Also there may be an option to revert back some executed actions, for example:
If you defined a custom event to set max brightness in media player, it will set default brightness once active application changed
If you defined a custom event to turn on WiFi when device is charging, it will turn off WiFi when it's not charging anymore
There will be some predefined custom events that you can activate and customize (commonly used custom events, to be determined, in this way you don't have to create them from scratch).
Finally, you can create profiles and switch between different profiles in one touch. Each profile defines some system settings: volume, ringtones, connections, backlight brightness,...
The user interface should cover any type of usage, for novice or advanced users, so it must be simple but powerful. And of course, it must be finger-friendly!
Don't hesitate if you have any suggestion regarding user interface design or mechanism in general. Thank you!
just wifi
you are smarter than me.
your imagination is stronger than mine.
dreaming from empty is impossible for me.
i would be happy trying out what you offer, when you feel it is ready for that.
at least then i could have base line.
the events you describe when phone is in certain positions (orientation) is
is unbelievable to me.. Majic
when my phone detects wifi, it would be fine if it connects to prescribed known network. if none available, then the strongest Open one would be choice.
and so forth down the tree..
im sorry to start the clutter of useless posts here and you can delete if you want.
as thousands who know you better, i am very anxious for your release..
EDIT EDIT :: i do have one question.. with all these options, how many minutes will many battery last?
even 60min?
Nice idea!
I would love to have this app replace "phonealarm"! Will it be possible to have multiple alarms? I really would love it when my phone would ring every 5 minutes if I have an unread message/missed call. This is one of the most important features. Are You planning on implementing such an option?
Greetz
korbi
This may be implemented in a future version.
Definitely some timed events ie:
From 9 am to 5 pm (typical US workday) the phone goes to vibrate.
From 11 pm to 6 am the phone goes silent for people sleeping.
Is it possible to program the sound to turn on 1 minute before an alarm so that you don't have to keep the sound on the whole time just for the alarm?
That's all I got so far.
- If a meeting is scheduled in the calendar, the phone should set itself to vibrate during the meeting and turn the ringer back on when the meeting is over.
- Activesync.exe can be killed as soon as the phone is unplugged from the USB cable.
- The interface can change its skin depending on the amount of light (Diamond's light sensor can be used) or time of day. (Darker environment = Darker skin so its easy on the eyes)
a few things
1. it is gorgeous! I have never seen an interface like that and I would love for it to be in any rom that comes out. That said
will this be released on legacy devices (titan specifically)
2. I assume also the menu will have scrolling elements
I have more technical questions though but this is a start
Good to see you're taking suggestions from everyone from designers, engineers and everyday users to advanced users. I have some suggestions which I'll just throw out there [some may be stupid but brainstorming works wonders with intuition and innovation]
Rotate to Activate Camera
- Event: Rotate device to landscape (whatever degree it is)
- Condition: Whilst in Home screen (or in any other screen in TF3D - not limited to just Home and which can be customized by the user as to which screens this will be enabled)
- Execute: Camera Application
Stylus Retrieval Activates Notepad:
- Event: Remove stylus from device
- Conditions: Only when in stand-by mode
- Execute: Unlock device > Open Notepad application
Alternative means of unlocking device
- Event: Double tap screen OR Long pressure hold of thumb/finger on screen - amount of pressure to be defined by user and being able to define this will ensure that accidental unlocks do not occur (e.g. whilst in pocket)
- Condition: Device locked AND Double taps/long holds on screen must be in a certain area of the screen - also definable by user
- Event: Unlock device
Inserting wired Headset opens menu for Phone/Music/Radio selection
- Event: Insert wired headset into phone
- Conditions: Wireless headset is not already paired AND Phone/Music/Radio applications are not already running [in relation to TF3D tab - music is not already playing]
- Action: Open up a dialogue menu for user to select either Phone, Music (user definable music application whether it goes to TF3D Music tab or opens another application like WMP), or Radio application
If I can come up with more suggestions, I will let you know.
hey i think the best thing for you to indigrate into your beautiful ui would be the lock and unlock screen of the Android OS (if possible)
here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGCIlAwrpvI
Great idea! I've been playing with automatically switching to silent mode when I'm in the vicinity of some cellular towers since 2001, never got it to work though
From a technical design perspective: I would strongly suggest that your application only registers itself to those events the user specified in some configuration. If your program is going to listen to all possible types of events at all times, it will become slow and battery draining. Your program should hook to events as necessary. You could check which events to hook to as soon as configuration changes. You could disable a hook to a specific event once all occurrences of actions listening for that event are done (to check on the moment the event action is executed), such as a one-time alarm.
Keep up the good word, I'm curious about the results in the future
- Daan
Edit: oops, you're asking for user interface design comments. Ghe, look at Apple? Nah, what I've seen from the videos the new interface looks very promising. For the profiles, you might consider letting the user configure some events very user friendly, like enabling some default often-used actions, and let specific events (such as defining the location of the bakery store) be entered by having to draw a stylus (if much user input is required).
Noooo!!! Schaps this is awesome! I hope I'm within 30 days to get a refund on Spb Phone Suite !
Hi Schaps,
Here is my idea: Add function key + shake to do more. Like:
1) Hold Down the Vol Down Key + shake horizontal = Play Next Music/SMS/Email/Photo (As user config)
2) Hold Down the Vol Up Key + shake horizontal = Play Previous Music/SMS/Email/Photo (As user config)
3) Hold Down the Action Key [The Round Button] + shake to Right = Move the TouchFLO3D Tab to Next Right Tap
4) Hold Down the Action Key [The Round Button] + shake to Left = Move the TouchFLO3D Tab to Next Left Tap
5) Hold Down the End Key + shake = Close all application
6) Hold Down the Phone Key + shake = Open the Contacts List
7) Hold Down the Back Key [←] + shake = Switch to Next Running application
8) Hold Down the Home Key + shake = Open your favorite application
9) Hold Down the Power Key + shake = Turn the LCD in WHITE and MAX the Backlight, So Diamond become a supper flashlight!
10) When not press any key + Rotation = Auto-Rotation just like GSen
See the Diamond can do a lot of things and iPhone can go back to home
What did you think?
Can you make it so that the phone can be set to turn on and off automatically like a blackberry?
Backwards compatibility and another idea
Will this be backwards compatible in any way in order to use on the Wing/Herald, until I can convince the wife that the HTC Diamond is the way to go...not the idrone?
Second, how about the ability for the phone to activate a specific program or two when it detects my bluetooth gps in the vicinity? Or to go to a specific mode when my bluetooth headset connects and to port all audio to the headset (another program activation)?
Maybe to activate a program, like a mapping program when the gps is active and moving over 20 mph... like an automatic navigation system.
*****
The biggest feature is the automatic profile changes... screen brightness, volume, ringtone, maybe a program, based on time of day or location.
It must also never interfere with the regular operation : Phonealarm would make my screen go blank when I looked at incoming messages. It would then interfere with the solid orange "charging" light quite often, making me wonder if my cord was bad.
Huey85 said:
Good to see you're taking suggestions from everyone from designers, engineers and everyday users to advanced users. I have some suggestions which I'll just throw out there [some may be stupid but brainstorming works wonders with intuition and innovation]
Rotate to Activate Camera
- Event: Rotate device to landscape (whatever degree it is)
- Condition: Whilst in Home screen (or in any other screen in TF3D - not limited to just Home and which can be customized by the user as to which screens this will be enabled)
- Execute: Camera Application
Stylus Retrieval Activates Notepad:
- Event: Remove stylus from device
- Conditions: Only when in stand-by mode
- Execute: Unlock device > Open Notepad application
Alternative means of unlocking device
- Event: Double tap screen OR Long pressure hold of thumb/finger on screen - amount of pressure to be defined by user and being able to define this will ensure that accidental unlocks do not occur (e.g. whilst in pocket)
- Condition: Device locked AND Double taps/long holds on screen must be in a certain area of the screen - also definable by user
- Event: Unlock device
Inserting wired Headset opens menu for Phone/Music/Radio selection
- Event: Insert wired headset into phone
- Conditions: Wireless headset is not already paired AND Phone/Music/Radio applications are not already running [in relation to TF3D tab - music is not already playing]
- Action: Open up a dialogue menu for user to select either Phone, Music (user definable music application whether it goes to TF3D Music tab or opens another application like WMP), or Radio application
If I can come up with more suggestions, I will let you know.
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You understood good custom events mechanism, this some examples of actions which will be possible. Now the challenge is to design a clear user interface to manage custom events.
Wolfblood said:
Hi Schaps,
Here is my idea: Add function key + shake to do more. Like:
1) Hold Down the Vol Down Key + shake horizontal = Play Next Music/SMS/Email/Photo (As user config)
2) Hold Down the Vol Up Key + shake horizontal = Play Previous Music/SMS/Email/Photo (As user config)
3) Hold Down the Action Key [The Round Button] + shake to Right = Move the TouchFLO3D Tab to Next Right Tap
4) Hold Down the Action Key [The Round Button] + shake to Left = Move the TouchFLO3D Tab to Next Left Tap
5) Hold Down the End Key + shake = Close all application
6) Hold Down the Phone Key + shake = Open the Contacts List
7) Hold Down the Back Key [←] + shake = Switch to Next Running application
8) Hold Down the Home Key + shake = Open your favorite application
9) Hold Down the Power Key + shake = Turn the LCD in WHITE and MAX the Backlight, So Diamond become a supper flashlight!
10) When not press any key + Rotation = Auto-Rotation just like GSen
See the Diamond can do a lot of things and iPhone can go back to home
What did you think?
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I have been working on it, but it's still experimental.
Hi Schaps,
One more things, At point 10) maybe the TouchXperience UI should be have a config manual to list out all installed application in Diamond (Listed on \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ & \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games) Let user choose (Make a tick box?) what application have Auto-Rotation function or not. Because as I try some application is not good or not support Auto-Rotation like below:
- Manila
- Teeter (Game)
- Opera
- htcalbum
- cprog.exe
See you later
Is it possible to skin your interface? If not, would it be possible to make a skin section like ThrottleLauncher has so all you have to do is copy files/install a cab and go to that section and change the skins. Or is all the skining part hardcoded?
schaps thank's for your nice work
i attend the your program
but work on htc elf?
Kraize92 said:
Is it possible to skin your interface? If not, would it be possible to make a skin section like ThrottleLauncher has so all you have to do is copy files/install a cab and go to that section and change the skins. Or is all the skining part hardcoded?
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That'd be quite a treat for users to be able to customize skins. +1 for skinnable interface!
Related
For those worried about the phone app using too much memory in the background:
WM2003 and WM5 compatible.
This program is used to toggle the phone.
Useful if assigned to a hardware key or a shortcut.
If the phone is open, it will be closed. If it is closed, it will be opened.
Please note, for VGA WM5 users use my VJBigPhone app instead.
This application supports international language versions. By default it will look for the "Phone" window.
If your phone is called something different, launch the application with command line parameters matching the name of the Phone.
eg In German
\program files\vijay555\vjphonetoggle\vjphonetoggle.exe Telefon
After installation you will find a shortcuts in StartMenu > Programs > Vijay555 > VJPhoneToggle.
Check it out on my website!
EDIT: guys I think I made the cab wrong. try the exe for tonight
www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjphonetoggle/vjphonetoggle.exe
V
Any1 got a screenshot how this looks like on a Qtek 9100
q-biq, it literally just closes the phone app. Or launches it. Nothing to see!
V
I didn't really understood the goal for this tool.
Phone dialer opens easly pressing the TALK button, and closes also easly by tapping on "X" or pressing END button.
For sure this tool is supposed to do something I didn't catch.
However VJ, I'd like to propose you a challenge, for another "similar" toggling tool.
The porpose is: I have a SIM Twincard to use with the mobile phone fixed in my car.
Whenever I power on the car, it is supposed to switch off the mobile phone to avoid SIMs interference. This is simple for a regular phone, but not so practical for a Windows PDA Phone.
You have to:
- switch device on
- tap on 'Radio signal icon'
- tap on 'Turn on flight mode'
And when leaving the car, repeat all again to activate phone.
My idea was a small program to assing to an hard button, which would toggle the 'filght mode' or just GSM radio.
So you have to press just on buuton like switchi.ng the on/off
What do you think?
Conchas: this application was made for mzaslam, under this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34718&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
He is concerned that the phone app uses quite a lot of memory in the background, even when not in use. Pressing ok just puts it in the background. So VJPhoneToggle fully unloads the phone app when you're finished with it, and loads it again when required.
Re the Flight mode thing: I will have to make this app, but I use a dual sim myself and also use the flightmode off > flightmode on trick to switch sims.
I use PhoneAlarm on my setup. This can be set up to launch from a shortcut to switch profiles, so for my setup I use a today screen shortcut on claunch to switch to flight mode, work, home etc. So for my setup I have three thumb friendly icons to activate profiles on PA. So I can switch easily from Today. Is that ok?
V
Yes it works.
... but I always hae been looking for a small toggling application, assignable to an hard button.
Conchas: I don't understand. What do you want your hardware button to do? Load/unload an app?
V
I want my hW button to toggle 'fligth mode' on/off.
Or more exactly the phone radio on/off as the wireless manager does. More precise, as nowadays allmost every PDA phone device supports BT and WiFi.
i.e. I would like to enable/disable the SIM ability to register into the GSM/3G network, in order to avoid interference with a second SIM (twin card), whenver required (e.g. using into a car).
It is not just a matter of the last phone switched on, because when travelling by car, as you move to other network cells, the first phone switched on most likely will take the handover.
Guys, this has been updated to not require an international parameter on the command line.
It should internally support all international versions. I hope!
V
Conchas, is this what you are looking for? Just copy the exe to your device and bind it to a hardware button.
Great, Koksie
It works!
I'm using it manually.
Can you tell, where to put the '.exe', so it gets visible to assign on the "Settings > Buttons"?
I 've added it to '\Windows', but didn't get it visible.
Thanks
Fernando
You don't have to put it in windows. Just make shortcuts to it in the start menu. Any startmenu shortcuts get picked up by the Buttons cpl.
V
Hi,
Forget it.
I miss something. In fact it was possible to assign to the buttons, if copied the '.exe' to '\Windows.'
Great!
Thanks Koksie
Fernando
Hi all!
I'd like to configure the std button to open contact and/or calendar in order to do some action (create new sms for example!) or open some app. when press and hold... is it possible?
Any simple app that make just that?
Markino: can you explain further? You want to open a particular contact, but in what screen? Contacts or calendar?
Or you want to press the contacts/calendar button and use it to send an sms etc?
V
Sorry, for my terrible English...
I'd like to press and hold the calender or contact button and associate the "press and hold" to do somethink like "create new sms"...
P.S: I'd like a easy way to create new sms.
VJPhoneTools will do this. There is another way, but they're both just as difficult.
You could also use the app on this forum, SmartKey or something, to give you a "new" menu on the Today screen, to create new sms etc. Very very good app.
V
Hi,
yes it's possible. And much more: http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
- Run Application
- Emulate keypress of Enter (Action), Esc and up/down/left/right keys
- Emulate standard application buttons
- "Virtual Application Button": Being specified as keypress action, "Virtual button" appears in standard Start -> Settings -> Buttons setup dialog and may be assigned here.
- Volume up/down
- Emulate Soft Keys
- Close (terminate) active application
- Switch next application
- Task Manager with charge level / memory summary info. Task manager may be operated with directional pad (up/down - choose application, left/action - switch to, right - terminate) or finger/stylus. You may apply filters to hide annoying applications (e.g. Phone)
- Ok/Close
- Start Menu
- Switch Display Off/On. Once you switch display OFF you may turn it back ON by the same keypress event or simply pressing Power On button.
- Switch BlueTooth Off/On
- Switch WiFi Off/On
- Vibration mode Off/On (WM5 only)
- Turn Off PDA
- Soft-Reset PDA (Soft Reset)
- Screen rotation
- Drop DialUp connections
- Disable "Power Off device if not used..."
- Switch to Today screen
- Clipboard operations: Select All / Copy / Cut / Paste
- Memory Monitor
- Battery Monitor/Uptime Forecast. It will show battery voltage/current/temperature if corresponding sensors are available
- Current Date/Time
- Pop-up menu with important AEBPlus actions. This feature is available in activated version only
- Any built-in action may be initiated by shortcut calling aebplus.exe with corresponding command line parameter
Markino said:
Hi all!
I'd like to configure the std button to open contact and/or calendar in order to do some action (create new sms for example!) or open some app. when press and hold... is it possible?
Any simple app that make just that?
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Why not do it using voice activation i start my msgs excel and calender using voice activation
I see this is a problem on the Omnia too, but when I lock my HD by holding down the call "End" key (Right Hand touch pad) the volume buttons are not locked!
Has somebody provided a tweak/fix for this calamatous feature?
Sorry, I don't know of a fix. Maybe third party apps that can assign another function to the volume buttons??
But the plus side of this feature is that when you are listening to music, you can put the phone on standby (to avoid accidental presses in your pocket), but you can easily reach into your pocket with your finger and turn the volume up or down without having to wake up the phone. Of course if you use headphones with volume control on them, then you don't need to reach in your pocket.
The volume keys will never be blocked. You cannot block them
you can try to use AEButton Plus and SKSchema!
You must make 2 different config files in AeButton, one wich leaves the Volume Buttons as they are (Default) and one disabeling them. Now you must make a script with SKSchema, wich changes everytime the Block starts or ends the config file of AeButton! This way you can use one Button configuration for the application "Phone Locked" and the other configuration for everytjing else!
Here is the instruction:
Save your default AeButton Settings (are located in the AEButton Program Folder) lets save them to \My Documents\AEBPlus Default\AEBPlus.cfg
now configurate AEButton with different settings (for example disable Volume up/down keys), lets save this cfg file to \My Documents\AEBPlus Locked\AEBPlus.cfg
Open SKSchema, type this script:
Code:
#r(#copyfile) #p(\My Documents\AEBPlus Locked\AEBPlus.cfg;\Program Files\AEBPlus\AEBPlus.cfg) #wait(1)
#r(\Program Files\AEBPlus\AEBPlus.exe) #p(0000) #waitfor(1)
the sense of this is to change the cfg files and to reinitialize AEButton
Save the Script as AEButtonLocked.sksc
Now we write a new script to do the opposite (change to default configuration:
Code:
#r(#copyfile) #p(\My Documents\AEBPlus Default\AEBPlus.cfg;\Program Files\AEBPlus\AEBPlus.cfg) #wait(1)
#r(\Program Files\AEBPlus\AEBPlus.exe) #p(0000) #waitfor(1)
Save the script as AEButtonDefault.sksc
Now we configure SKSchema to monitor for 2 events: opening our application (device lock) and closing it: add a new event in the SKSchema monitoring configuration: when the device lock application opens or closes start the scripts. (they are locates in
Code:
\My Documents\sScripts[/B])
so type this: [B]#c[[COLOR="Red"]shutil.dll[/COLOR]] #on[\My Documents\sScripts\AEButtonLocked.sksc] #off[\My Documents\sScripts\AEButton.sksc]
I DONT KNOW the lock Application EXE wich is running i hope it works..shutil.dll should maybe be rplaced with a EXE ...use some locker with a running exe (S2U... TouchLockPro (my favorit ))
You could lock the device when the stylus is putted in. This has two major advantages. You won't loose your stylus and you won't let your device unlocked.
Mobilemagic has a quirk in it that when you assign the buttons to a multi press application it disables a single press. See post 203 in this thread. It works great for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654&page=21
Great post Koffein, thanks. Actually TouchLockPro looks exactly what I'm after (and I didn't even know I needed it), I'll give it a try and see if it works for me. The usability of this device is getting so much better by the minute thanks to you xda guys!
Glad I could help, here are some tips for using TochLockPro
In Registry goto HKCU\Software\ZuinigeRijder\LockSettings\
and set the D-WORD "UnlockOnLightSensorTime" to 300, now your device will be unlocked after a shorter time period (0,3 sec) when it wakes up and "sees" light.
For me it is the best unlock method in the pocket it stayes locked, if it is activated accidently,
but when i activate it in a not too dark room while it is in my hand it unlocks automatically.
Adjust the other values if you want to customize it more
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DredSensor v1.3a:
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Now DredSensor should be compatible with other device than HTC Touch Diamond.
Historically, if you have tried to play a game needing left and right key on an HTC Touch Diamond, you noticed that they are 2mm wide and if you click next to it, you get back to home page or to dialing menu etc...
So I've written a prog allowing you to lock these 4 keys actions and replace it by classical key event (VK_LEFT, VK_RIGHT, ...).
In that way you can play tetris, and use "Pick-Up" and "Hang-Up" keys for going left and right.
I extended it to let you configure each app independantly, and choose between four (five) mode:
"HardKeySimul": replace the 4 keyz by classical key event
"Launcher": allow you to quicklaunch 4 app (that you define in the config wnd) when you double tap (not click, just tap) on one of those 4 keyz
"Scroll": allow you to scroll the current window by tapping those 4 keyz panel
"KeySimul": allow you to send left/right/up/down events by tapping those 4 keyz panel
"--- Disabled ---": Disable specific HTC Touch Diamond Sensor functionalities.
Now, i've added an alternative Key Mapping, that let you map an action (or another key) on normal click and long click event on any other key that the up-described four.
So if you don't have an HTC Touch Diamond, the only mode you can choose is "--- Disabled ---" but you can define "other key mapping".
Link ->: DredSensor-v1.3a
To use it, you need:
1) A Windows Mobile SmartPhone
2) Install the .cab
3) Reboot your SmartPhone
4) Run a game (or app or ...)
5) Get your stylus out and back-in, in less than 1 second
6) Click "Yes"
----- A config window opens:
7) Choose the Type you want.
8) Reassign the actions to the events, if needed.
9) Assign "other key mapping", if needed.
10) Click "Ok"
Other Key Mapping:
To add a key mapping, a popup opens and ask you to press a key.
If you want to assign an action to normal clic, just clic on the choosen key.
If you want to assign an action to long clic, clic more thant 1 sec on the choosen key.
Then you have to choose the action, and it's done.
If you only assign an action to a long clic on a key, a short clic on this key should work transparently.
Have fun.
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If you like this program, feel free to donate:
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Version history:
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New features in v1.3a:
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Added an alternative key mapping that Should be compatible with any Windows Mobile device.
Added the "KeepAlive" option. Check this if you want DredSensor to prevent the smartphone to sleep when this application is loaded.
Added possibility to Enable/Disable DredSensor:
Exemple of C++ code to do this:
#define WM_DREDSENSOR_START WM_USER+22
#define WM_DREDSENSOR_STOP WM_USER+23
Disable:
HWND m_hDredSensorWnd=FindWindow(_T("DredSensorWnd"),NULL);
if(m_hDredSensorWnd!=NULL)
SendMessage(m_hDredSensorWnd,WM_DREDSENSOR_STOP,0,0);
Enable:
if(m_hDredSensorWnd!=NULL)
SendMessage(m_hDredSensorWnd,WM_DREDSENSOR_START,0,0);
New features in v1.2g:
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Fixes a few bugs
Fix the bug in config window when loading prog list
Added a debug mode:
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For activating it, just launch DredSensorDebug.exe (in /Program Files/DredSensor).
First it will tell you if DredSensor is running or not.
If it's running, it will activate/deactivate the debug mode so you will find a log in /Program Files/DredSensor/Log
If you have trouble with DredSensor:
Restart your HTC
Launch DredSensorDebug (to activate log)
Wait for DredSensor to stop working
Launch DredSensorDebug to know if it's still runing or not.
PM me the log, the config.ini and a description of the problem.
New features in v1.2b:
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Tried to fix the conflicts with TouchLockPro and similar, hope it works (thanks for those who can check this out)
New features in v1.2:
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Fix "not working bug" with new ROMs
Allow you to choose wether you block the scrolling wheel or not
Allow you to disable the vibrator effect.
Allow you to delete configs.
Tips:
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If you upgrade to this version, you can keep your config file.
To define a profile that applies on every applications, launch config tool and edit "Default" config.
If the key you want to affect is not listed, you can define it manually:
Type "Key:[email protected]@", with @@ = VKey code of the key you want to affect.
You can find VKey code list on : http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
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DredSensor v1.1d:
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Link ->: DredSensor-v1.1d
New features in v1.1d:
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Let you choose which Key/Action you affect to each key.
Launcher Mode let you affect an Action for:
Double Tap event
Click event
Long click event
An icon for config tool is created in Program list.
Cache Program List for quick loading in Config window.
Fixes a few bug from v1.1, v1.1b and v1.1c
Tips:
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If you upgrade to this version, your config file will be cleared (sorry ).
To define a profile that applies on every applications, launch config tool and edit "Default" config.
If the key you want to affect is not listed, you can define it manually:
Type "Key:[email protected]@", with @@ = VKey code of the key you want to affect.
You can find VKey code list on : http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
Wonderfull!!
the app is working good for me now! I just love the scrolling with only a touch on the d-pad
Thank you!!
I suggest you stop making a new thread for every new version and instead update your original thread and post that you've updated it.
After installing and lunch program .... i cannot see any of EVENTS on Events tab. Windows "wait gif" is rolling all the time and nothing happen :/ (i talk about mapping under HardKeySimul
Kraize said:
I suggest you stop making a new thread for every new version and instead update your original thread and post that you've updated it.
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That's what i wanted to do but i didn't found a way to update the post title...
Is there one?
thanx for the update I'll try it and report
Thanks for the new version! And thanks for adding the OK button command!
Seems to be working better than the last version although pressing the back key (which I have mapped to click right) a few times in quick succession does seem to send a back command. Pressing the home key in quick succession doesn't have this problem.
Also, I can't get the scroll wheel to work despite leaving the "Block scrolling wheel" box unchecked. Am I doing something wrong?
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Thanks for the new version! And thanks for adding the OK button command!
Seems to be working better than the last version although pressing the back key (which I have mapped to click right) a few times in quick succession does seem to send a back command. Pressing the home key in quick succession doesn't have this problem.
Also, I can't get the scroll wheel to work despite leaving the "Block scrolling wheel" box unchecked. Am I doing something wrong?
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Hmm.. For the scrolling wheel, i use a tricky solution that works on my HTC touch diamond. May be it doesn't work on your model or on your rom version...
If someone have an idea on how to send a "ZoomIn" or "ZoomOut" event to a window (or how to develop an application that catch ZoomIn and ZoomOut events), that would help a lot...
As far as i studied the problem, it seems that ZoomIn and ZoomOut events are equal to Up and Down keys, but comming from a "rocker" .. so I can send those Up/Down key events, but no idea of how to tell that this comes from a "rocker" (and i don't even have an idea of what a "rocker" is...)
Help?
Wow, this is great! I am still loving the ability to remap my home key (and the others), and I really like the new scroll wheel feature. Actually, for me, instead of zooming in some apps, it now seems to scroll just about everywhere -- which is perfect, I like that more anyway.
Is there any way to donate or buy you a cup of coffee? I'd like to as a thank-you.
What an absolutely brilliant program!
Thank you very much Dredger97!
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Wow, this is great! I am still loving the ability to remap my home key (and the others), and I really like the new scroll wheel feature. Actually, for me, instead of zooming in some apps, it now seems to scroll just about everywhere -- which is perfect, I like that more anyway.
Is there any way to donate or buy you a cup of coffee? I'd like to as a thank-you.
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Well if you insist , i've added a donate link in the first post...
Big thanks to all for your positive and constructive comments
TF3D and DredSensor don't play nice together
This program is awesome! You can do so much with it! However, I am having one small issue with it. It appears that if I use it on Manilla [TF3D], that it works initially, but over time it seems to stop working and ends up freezing Manilla. The start icon still works, all the unmapped hardware keys still work and the task bar is still live. Only Manilla is frozen. If I don't map any keys on Manilla, it works fine for hours. But it only takes about 1 or 2 hours before there is a freeze on Manilla.
Any thoughts on how to correct this? I would love to use this program from my Home screen on Manilla.
Long click event → vibrate/nomal
Hi,all!
i want "Long click event" of Endkey to set vibrate/nomal.
how edit setting?
sorry for my english!
thanks.
downloaded v1.2, opened resco picture viewer,Got stylus out and back-in, in less than 1 second, tapped yes.
than for type i choosed disabled, but nothing, every time i press any hw key it does what it need to do(home to home, back for back, hangup close..)
what am i doing wrong??
intel286 said:
downloaded v1.2, opened resco picture viewer,Got stylus out and back-in, in less than 1 second, tapped yes.
than for type i choosed disabled, but nothing, every time i press any hw key it does what it need to do(home to home, back for back, hangup close..)
what am i doing wrong??
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Well, disabled means "DredSensor is disabled" so it's normal that your hw key do what it's supposed to.
If you want to disable the hard key, you can:
- set Type: Launcher
- set "Click" action = "Misc:Nothing" on one of the keys.
So it will catch the hard key action, and do nothing when you click on it.
For me it doesn`t work :/ windows "Wait" gif is always apperaing when i want to add new Event. :/ And there is no Events on the list ...
tried that but same when i press home it goes to home
i have tried that on wmp.
is this program always turned on,now when i remove and than get back in stylus no menu pops up?!?
Great Job!
the app finally works on my pda! so glad you solved this bug!
But I still have a little problem...the app runs fine, when I start the buttons work with the function that I chose, but after the first time I use it it crashes and stops to work. Am I the only one with this problem?
Thanks,
Michele
Dredger, I asked in the last thread, but didn't get a response.
As far as mapping other buttons goes, could you post a quick example of what I would type in the config.ini to map the center D-pad button to act as the "left" button.
I realize the buttons commands are listed in the link you provided in your first post, but I'm having a little bit of trouble figuring this out.
Thanks.
Great app btw.
I'm gonna have to have another go at this... For some reason I just can't wrap my head around the setup of the program.
Overview
The Zoom Bar is the little strip at the bottom of your Touch Pro 2's screen that is used in a handful of applications on your device. Wouldn't it be nice if you could use it in every application? Customized to fit your needs? That's where ZoomBarPlus comes in! You can map keystrokes for tapping, double tapping, long tapping, and swiping left/right. Default zoom functionality is also retained for all applications that are already Zoom Bar aware.
This app was developed because I wanted to have a virtual D-Pad of sorts. The default actions are swipe-right sends the down arrow, swipe-left the up arrow, double tap the action (center) button, long tap is backspace (which is "back" in Total Commander CE, which I use a lot). You can set it up any way you want!
ZoomBarPlus is a TRUE Windows Mobile service, so it does NOT use one of the precious few 32 slots available for processes. You can find more information about services here.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS APP IS DESIGNED TO WORK ONLY ON THE TOUCH PRO 2 (AKA RHODIUM / TILT 2) AND DIAMOND 2 (AKA TOPAZ / PURE) AND RELATED DEVICES. It has also been successfully tested on the HTC Imagio (aka Whitestone) and HTC Mega (aka Touch 2). If I'm missing any zoombar phones here that it works on or needs to be tested on, please let me know.
CodePlex
ZoomBarPlus development is hosted at Microsoft CodePlex! http://www.codeplex.com/ZoomBarPlus
License
Ms-RL
Tip Jar
Like this app? Want more like it or quicker updates? Tip a buck (or Euro or Pound or whatever) or two to help the author out! Click here to make a safe donation via PayPal.
Current features
- This is a BETA release, so it should be treated as possibly being unstable!
- Assign keycodes to tap, double tap, long tap, swipe left, and swipe right gestures on the zoom bar.
- Swipe gestures can repeat keystrokes when held, which is good for simulating holding down a D-Pad button, for example.
- Use a registry editor to change configuration settings (a config app will come soon).
- Disables itself if the user is using an application that handles the ZoomBar natively.
- Option to disable itself if the user is on a MessageBox (dialog), so as to not accidentally confirm an "are you sure" notification.
- VERY low resources used -- runs as a TRUE service and uses as close as 0% CPU as is possible by an app like this.
Future features
- Configuration app (.Net CF 3.5 required).
- New gestures: tap and swipe (with hold). Default will be D-Pad Left and D-Pad Right.
- AppToDate support
- New registry location for settings (for safety): HKCU\Software\Avian Waves\ZoomBarPlus
- Per-Window Class settings: ignore (default ZoomBar), or custom gesture settings
- Screen orientation aware (optional landscape flip swipe gestures)
Latest ChangeLog
- Fixed bug: if the active window changed while you were in the middle of a single tap delay, long tap delay, or swipe-repeat, it would continue repeating, even if the new foreground window class was one of the classes that handles the ZoomBar natively, leading to unexpected results.
- You can now specify whether you want ZBP to deactivate when the MessageBox class is in the foreground. This is useful for disabling ZBP when a confirmation message appears. In particular, with Total Commander CE, it was very easy to try to "tap" to activate a file and accidentally click the DELETE button simultaneously, leading to a Delete->Confirm Yes situation. Needless to say, it led to bad results when a lot of stuff you didn't want to delete was, in fact, deleted. :-( Now, it can't happen because ZBP will (by default) deactivate when the confirmation box appears.
Video
See it in action! Thanks to PocketNow for the great review!
http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/zoombarplus-use-touch-pro2-diamond2-zoom-bar-as-a-d-pad
Registry
All apps listsed in HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch are ignored so that ZBP doesn't interfere with built-in zoom functionality of those apps.
Settings for ZBP are in HKLM\Services\ZoomBarPlus. Setting any keycode to zero disables the feature.
The service needs to be restarted (use DotFred's task manager) or the device soft reset for changes to take effect. This will get easier after this app is out of beta.
Tap = Keycode sent to focused window when the zoom bar is tapped once.
DoubleTap = Keycode sent to focused window when the zoom bar is tapped twice in succession.
LongTap = Keycode sent to focused window when the zoom bar is pressed and held.
SwipeRight = Keycode sent to focused windows when the zoom bar is swiped to the right (repeated for each 'segment' you pass).
SwipeLeft = Keycode sent to focused windows when the zoom bar is swiped to the left (repeated for each 'segment' you pass).
DoubleTapInterval = Time in ms that ZBP will wait for the second tap in a double tap.
LongTapInterval = Time in ms that ZBP will wait before executing the long tap action.
SwipeDoRepeat = Should the swipe gesture automatically repeat if you hold your finger down?
SwipeRepeatAfter = Number of ticks of a swipe before doing the swipe repeat.
SwipeRepeatIntervalFirst = First delay (in ms) before doing a swipe repeat.
SwipeRepeatIntervalRate = Interval (in ms) between each swipe repeat action.
VibrateInterval = Length of time to vibrate for haptic feedback.
VibrateSwipe = Provide vibration (haptic feedback) on a swipe action?
VibrateTap = Provide vibration (haptic feedback) on a tap action?
DisableOnMessageBox = Do not process ZBP command when the current in-focus window is a Message Box (dialog)?
The default settings are:
Tap = Do nothing! (0x00)
DoubleTap = Center "action" button - VK_TACTION (0x0D)
LongTap = Backspace - VK_BACK (0x08)
SwipeRight = Down Arrow - VK_TDOWN (0x28)
SwipeLeft = Up Arrow - VK_TUP (0x26)
DoubleTapInterval = 350
LongTapInterval = 650
SwipeDoRepeat = 1 (Yes)
SwipeRepeatAfter = 5
SwipeRepeatIntervalFirst = 350
SwipeRepeatIntervalRate = 100
VibrateInterval = 25
VibrateSwipe = 0 (No)
VibrateTap = 1 (Yes)
DisableOnMessageBox = 1 (Yes)
Notes
I would recommend NOT setting a keycode for single tap. The reason being that the zoombar seems to have its sensitivity bleed into the bottom part of the screen. So what tends to happen is you will tap a button that's on the bottom of the screen (such as a menu) and the zoombar single-tap action will activate as well. I cannot adjust the zoombar sensitivity, so I cannot work around the sensitivity in code. I found that double-tapping on the zoombar becomes intuitive if you are trying to achieve a D-Pad of sorts, which is why I developed this app.
Download
CAB Installer: http://zoombarplus.codeplex.com/releases
Source Code: http://zoombarplus.codeplex.com/SourceControl/list/changesets
FAQ
Q: ZoomBarPlus isn't working in <some application>. Is this a bug? How do I fix this?
A: ZoomBarPlus is designed to not be active whenever HTC's SmartTouch service sends zoom bar messages to applications that are "zoom bar aware." You may not realize how many applications are actually zoom bar aware. Som ROM cooks like to put in lots of extras (the default behavior is a simple scroll-down / scroll-up behavior, but no action button or anything more advanced). Even without a custom ROM, applications like RSS Hub and the Inbox are zoom bar aware. This can be annoying when the default zoom bar behavior isn't what you want. For example, in the Outlook Inbox, you might want ZoomBarPlus to scroll up and down through the list. It won't because the HTC default behavior is to resize text in the message view and do nothing at all in the list view!
To fix this, go into the Smart Touch registry key HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch and either delete the relevant key of the application you no longer want the default zoom behavior for --OR-- change the value of ClassName in the key to something that will never exist as a window class (maybe add a dozen x's to the end of it). Soft reset after this. The config application (coming soon!) will allow you to enable or disable classes in SmartTouch more easily.
Nice App.
But How can I send only one "down arrow" when I swipe right?It always scroll too much.
This could be very useful. Thanks.
what if i wanna set "swap left" to arrow left and "swap right" to arrow right?
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Nice App.
But How can I send only one "down arrow" when I swipe right?It always scroll too much.
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Interesting idea. I was sending a keystroke on every time the zoombar "ticked" (moved far enough to generate an event). I can have it just send one per down and release. Next release.
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what if i wanna set "swap left" to arrow left and "swap right" to arrow right?
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I believe you can just switch the two keycodes for those from his list above. I'm about to test in just a minute to verify.
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what if i wanna set "swap left" to arrow left and "swap right" to arrow right?
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Edit the registry as stated in the first post. I'm going to create a config program soon. This is beta.
Here is a list of a bunch of keycodes that you all might find useful: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
You are looking for VK_TLEFT and VK_TRIGHT
This thing is amazing!! Wow you're awesome thanks so much for this!
jerrymc2 said:
what if i wanna set "swap left" to arrow left and "swap right" to arrow right?
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Edit the registry as stated in the first post. I'm going to create a config program soon. This is beta.
Here is a list of a bunch of keycodes that you all might find useful: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
You are looking for VK_TLEFT and VK_TRIGHT
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Yeah, that worked for me great. I just switched the values (38 and 40, respectively) for the two entries thx1200 mentioned, and then soft-reset.
The app seems to work pretty darn good overall...it's more like using the zoom bar as a scroll wheel, in terms of response/speed, than a D-pad, but it's still a very workable solution. The only place I haven't been able to get it to cooperate is in the outlook inbox screen (WM, not TF3D), but it's worked everywhere else I've tried it so far, including inside of apps like PHM_regedit.
Thanks thx1200!!
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Yeah, that worked for me great. I just switched the values (38 and 40, respectively) for the two entries thx1200 mentioned, and then soft-reset.
The app seems to work pretty darn good overall...it's more like using the zoom bar as a scroll wheel, in terms of response/speed, than a D-pad, but it's still a very workable solution. The only place I haven't been able to get it to cooperate is in the outlook inbox screen (WM, not TF3D), but it's worked everywhere else I've tried it so far, including inside of apps like PHM_regedit.
Thanks thx1200!!
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That's because the Inbox has been modified by HTC to be "zoombar aware." You can prevent the driver from sending zoombar codes to the Inbox by deleting it's window class registry entry in HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch. ZBP purposely does not respond to window classes in that key so as not to have two responses (the app's and ZBP's) firing at the same time.
In fact, if you want to override ALL zoombar behavior, delete all the window classes in that registry key. Keep in mind you will also lose the ability to zoom in the picture viewer if you get that aggressive.
Yes, it does perform less like a D-Pad and more like scroll-wheel. Either way, it gives you a lot more one-handedness than a device lacking a D-Pad (or wheel). I particularly enjoy the swipe-and-hold gesture where it just keeps scrolling. That's particularly d-pad-like. Scroll wheels can't do that.
EDIT: After modifying SmartTouch, a soft reset is required.
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That's because the Inbox has been modified by HTC to be "zoombar aware." You can prevent the driver from sending zoombar codes to the Inbox by deleting it's window class registry entry in HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch. ZBP purposely does not respond to window classes in that key so as not to have two responses (the app's and ZBP's) firing at the same time.
In fact, if you want to override ALL zoombar behavior, delete all the window classes in that registry key. Keep in mind you will also lose the ability to zoom in the picture viewer if you get that aggressive.
Yes, it does perform less like a D-Pad and more like scroll-wheel. Either way, it gives you a lot more one-handedness than a device lacking a D-Pad (or wheel). I particularly enjoy the swipe-and-hold gesture where it just keeps scrolling. That's particularly d-pad-like. Scroll wheels can't do that.
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Ahh gotcha...I knew this app ignored any zoombar-enabled stuff, I just didn't realize the inbox fell into that catgory. I'll try tinkering with it in the reg like you suggested.
And yes, the swipe-n-hold feature is pretty sweet...and more like a D-pad than a scroll wheel. I'm still practicing/testing with it (there's a little learning curve to get used to the best thumb-motions), but I love it so far...thanks again!
Hi thx1200,
you are really crazy. You have also another hobby ? Great work. This app have also a very good potential.
mike2nl said:
Hi thx1200,
you are really crazy. You have also another hobby ? Great work. This app have also a very good potential.
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I have too many hobbies. Many are being neglected! Plus regular 10 hour days at work. Sigh. I wish I was independently wealthy so I could just write freeware and write free music and spend some time on my other hobbies.
I had ZoomAdds installed, removed it, installed this... but I'm just getting the same scrolling I did before, no repeat, no taps, no vibration... Any ideas what else might be interfering?
Aha, found it, TouchLockPro.. Once I disabled it, scrolling.. changed I'll be wtaching this one, I still can't quite "do" a dpad, but been wanting it since I changed from my original Tilt.
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I believe you can just switch the two keycodes for those from his list above. I'm about to test in just a minute to verify.
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you're a genius!
Thanks thx1200.
By the way,when you have changed zoombarplus registry items,you can make it effect by restarting the service using some task manage programs
awesome
I wish HTC would have thought out the zoom bar moor considering it only had one function that didnt work in every isntance.
Great!
Just now installed it on my diamond 2, didn't have any problems yet. Great keep it up!
Little more info
New here...so bear with me.
I have a ATT tilt2 that I just flashed to the new energy ROM from Mar 9th, standard WM 6.5 with sense 2.5.
I love the ROM, but never realized that the opera browser, 9.5 I think, that came with the stock tilt2 was the only opera browser that worked with the factory zoombar. The browser in this new ROM, 10.1 I believe, oesn't work with it...and I love my zoombar!!
Would this program help?