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Dropped my Jasjar inside a WC :( Please advice

It happend while I was taking my cloths off for taking a bath
I dropped it inside our WC and my 2GB SD Card was gone far away inside that damn WC and never found it
I tried to pull out the battery but I couldn't pull that damn battery out for 5 min.
Anfter 5 hours drying with a hair dryer I put the battery and other stuff back and there was NO life After pushing the softreset hole some 10-20 times and putting it to charge there was a little life back some blue lines at the screen.
Now after 5 more hours it starts, but after some resets (some times there is only blue lines) and when it starts it freezez very much...
Should I send it for repairing?
Does the worranty covers it? (I bought it from Internet)
Would reflashing help?
Please advice...

tbh, I would have left it to dry normally in a warm place for 24 hrs before even considering to power it up, as (not 100% certain) I think the hairdryer creates static, which could damage the electronics inside, plus, you can't guarantee that it will have dried it out completely, which means, when you started it up, it could have still been damp in the middle and damaged something.
does it look like it has been water damaged? if not, then your best bet would be to not mention that fact, and just say it has suddenly started being funny, not booting up and freezing alot.
I doubt a reflash will fix it, but it is something for nothing, so worth a shot, however long it is.
*edit* if the company won't replace it, you could try your house insurance...

Thanks alot for the reply wytey,
I think there is something damaged, becouse when I soft reset it after freezing there comes a couple of times a light blue screen with blue and white lines...after soft reseting 3-4 times again it loads normaly again but freezez after 5-10 mins again
I was soo happy with my Jasjar >:'(

Your device has been damaged by water.
This is not covered by warranty.
It might not be covered by any insurrance you might have through your service provider.
You may be able to get it covered under home insurrance.

There isn't a case for a wet PDA. But I've read a recent article of getting back a Linksys router that has been soaked wet by rain water. See the real life experience here
http://www.grynx.com/index.php/projects/salvage-your-device-after-liquid-spill/1/
Probably you can do the same?

I dropped my Wizard in the bath, took out the battery and let it dry for about a day or so. Evrything works just fine.. So you should have dry it for over a day or more to be shure no water is left in it

Very timely.
http://www.lifehacker.com/software/hardware/save-your-electronics-from-spilled-liquid-150085.php
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Thanks for replies guys,
Usefull article, but I think it's too late now, I couldn't take out the battery for 5 mins, then how to open the device and clean the components/circute
Can they prove it if I don't mention water?
Home insurrance would be a big lie, but who cares they get money from me every month (what to say to them? stolen? bropped in water?)
Thanks again for your times guys

I may be wrong , but I beleive there is an "indicator" in most modern equipment that shows up if there has been any water damage

anyone who knows how to repair phones and look at pcb boards etc. will KNOW right away that it has been water damaged. Impossible to hide (unless you yourself are also a technician).
I know because I own a phone repair shop and have been doing repairs for a lot of years.
One of the IC may be damaged, so when your device starts to get warm (as you said 5-10 mins) it cannot hold the power.
Just think yourself lucky that it's only an IC and not a CPU.
E-mail me on [email protected] if you need more help and advice

hb328_dtdd said:
anyone who knows how to repair phones and look at pcb boards etc. will KNOW right away that it has been water damaged. Impossible to hide (unless you yourself are also a technician).
I know because I own a phone repair shop and have been doing repairs for a lot of years.
One of the IC may be damaged, so when your device starts to get warm (as you said 5-10 mins) it cannot hold the power.
Just think yourself lucky that it's only an IC and not a CPU.
E-mail me on [email protected] if you need more help and advice
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THanks alot for the info hb328_dtdd
If it's an IC, is it hard to repair it? how much would it cost me?
thanks

I (or whoever you decide to check the device) will have to open the unit up and clean out the residue of water and then do thorough tests first, it may not be an IC problem, even if it is an IC problem it may not actually be broken and will work again after cleaning and sonic waves passed through it.
Depending on which IC is broken and how hard it is to replace it, and also if it has caused any other side effects to the other chips, the repair in theory should not cost too much at all as it does not seem serious (from what I read from your post anyway).
E-mail me with more description of the problem and I will try and give you some tips to get it running, if that fails then you can decide whether to send it away or take it to local engineer to repair.
Hope this helps

the Gadget (Ch 5 UK )show did a piece on stuff getting wet. I htink they all came back to life one way or another but the were left to dry slowly I think for a day or 2. so you could hold out for live in the thing yet?

I hate the fact that Dopod 900 is very slippery, don't you think? I'm looking for a rubber casing like the one for O2 and Ipod.
Dopod 900 enclosure is too slippery, I'm so worry I may drop it too.

I am selling some Pocket PCs and this happened to two of my customers. But the device was an Ipaq 37XX and 38XX.
Both devices I put on a warm place and left there for 4 days. Then after this I powered them up. The Ipaq 37XX had only a bad LCD light, which was flickering sometimes and was not bright. the 38XX worked good again.
Anywasys, you need to check your device and have it cleaned. The biggest problem is the fact that there is so little space between smd mounted chips and the PCB that the water stays in between never drying and makes the metal rust. I had this experience with a cell phone already.
So you can try following:
(1) pay for cleaning and repair
or
(2) try to get it guarantee exchanged, which is also possible as for a pocket pc the technicians normally do not check for water damage. But if you have bad luck, somebody will notice this and you get nothing replaced.

I managed the same thing a while ago with my Xda2, and the symptoms were pretty much the same when it first happened (random lines and 'blotches' across the screen, freezing)..
Without haste, I removed the battery, sd card and mopped up any moisture from inside the battery compartment.. placed it in a warm place in an attempt to evaporate the moisture from the device. I left it for 24 hours before powering the device back up.
It DID work afterwards and I was a bit suprised and relieved at its resilience to liquid.
The important thing is to make sure the board and pins of the chips are not shorted by liquid, if you cannot get to the board, evaporation in a warm place is probably your best bet...Just watch out how you apply heat for the sake of the screen (and possibly the keys on the exec).

I dropped my XDA II into a canal and managed to save it. The problem is the water can't evaporate easily. I took the battery off and put it on a radiator. It took 7 days to finally dry out! It worked ok though.
You probably still have water in yours, so I would recommend putting it on a radiator or somewhere hot and just leaving it. You haven't got anything to lose

After almost 2 days inside the radiator it still has the same freezing/dying problem I thinks something is damaged inside ((( And now I can't find any electronic service in Denmark who can repare it

just because it's dry doesn't mean it fix itself, people often mistake this. Sometimes people get their phones to WORK after it's DRY but little do they know what is really happening inside the phone each time they power it back on and the residue is still there inside the phone lurking in the spaces between the pcb and the chips.
no matter what anyone says, I always tell people the same thing:
YOU MUST GET IT PROFESSIONALLY FIXED

My suggestion and this has never failed me yet.
1. After being dropped in liquid, DO NOT SWITCH ON - This is where most of the real damage will occur. If it is/was switched on remove battery as quickly as possible.
2. Strip down and remove any thing you can do easily, covers, sd card, stylus, sim, battery.
3. Waste a whole aerosol of switch cleaner, squirt it anywhere and everywhere you possibly can, literally fill it up with the stuff so it is pouring out of every hole. Do NOT use WD40, it must be electrical switch cleaner that will leave no residue at all!
4. Allow as much as possible of the switch cleaner to drip out and then allow it to dry, do not force dry with a hair dryer and even a radiator is too harsh. I find airing cupboard where the hot water tank is is the best place.
5. Leave at least 48 hours before putting everything back together and switching on, if it does not work straight away, strip it down again and leave another 24 hours, keep repeating for 7 days.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=27515&criteria=switch cleaner&doy=29m1
Good luck!

wizard inside pictures here / keyboard replacement

Hi,
As my wizard dropped in the water it got completely soaked.
I disassembled it to let it dry, see photos attached, put it together again and presto, almost everything works!!!
Just four keys of the keyboard do not work anymore, and as it all happened a week ago now I do not think this will be fixed.
Does anyone know if they do not work because of the water or because of the impact (the Wizard smashed on the street first)?
Has anybody ever fixed a faulty keypad?
Can anybody tell me where I can get a replacement keypad?
Let me know if you need instructions how to disassemble your wizard.
many thanks!
manhattan.

I have no answer to your question, but it is nice to see the inside of the wizard one time.

A couple of other people were asking about disassembly in other posts - so the instructions would probably be handy.

Hi,
I would love some complete instructions on dissasembly as I am about to take mine apart for painting and a hardware mod.
As far as the keyboard goes, you would be surpised how long they retain water, i doubt its a hardware problem, keyboard are pretty much solid state with only a tiny membrane for contacts. However it is this membrane that is most likely to be your problem, the contacts are very close together and covered in a film that can be verry attractive to water as it has rubber over it. So in essence I am saying I bet it is still wet in there, just a few droplets of condensation would do it.
Options, take it a apart and check and leave in a very warm dry place for a day, or II place whole wizard on a warm heater (not hot) for a while and see if that gets it.
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Hi,
I also want to know the details of disassembly the wizard.

I think you had better post the instructions o disassembly here as I'm sure there are quite a few people who wuld like to know, me included.

Just a thought by looking at the picture (brave btw!)
Would it be possible to replace the 2,5mm headphone jack by an 3,5mm one and drill out a new hole for the larger connector?
Would be neat if you weren't so dependable on those stupid converters. Not a pretty sight anyway.

Thanks for sharing the photos.

I took mine apart some time ago to fix the stylist problem and when I put it back together some of the keys wouldnt work. The back light wouldnt work either. I found the problem was the little snap that secures the flat cable form the keyboard to the main board. There is a really small clasp that clicks down on the flat cable after you insert it into the connector. Once I took it back apart and snapped it, everything was normal again.
I plan on taking mine apart to change the keyboard form the English/arabic to just English, (anyone know where I can buy the keyboard/keys?) so any instructions you have will be appreciated.
Thanks

The stylii in the picture look like BA stylii.
Do I get 10 points?

will post instructions
OK guys I will put together the instructions and upload them here. I just have absolutely no time now so I hope you can wait a day or two....
Thanks for the comments. I am aware of the little lock that secures the mini flatcable that connects the keypad to the motherboard. I assume that is not the problem as I snapped it securely back in place.
I will try the heater suggestion, I suppose you mean to put the wizard in an oven set at let's say 50 degrees celsius?
The styluses in the photo are from my Qtek 2020. As the Wizard smashed I lost its stylus.... :-(
Sorry the photos do not show the display half of the wizard disassembled... I realised too late that others would benefit from pictures...
Cheers
Manhattan

I dont think I would put it in an oven. I would think that just inside a vehicle sitting in direct sunlight for a few hours would probably do, unless you are in a really cold climate. You may also try some electrical contact cleaner then get some additional heat to it after it evaportates. There is probably something that has trapped some moisture somewhere. Just for info, I dropped my Jamin the other night about 4 feet directly onto a tile floor. It bounced a couple times, ejected the SD card, and reset. But it is working fine. However, I had a bud that dropped his 2 day old Sony Ericsson P900 into water and dried it off immediatly and let it air dry. It worked, but he had problems ever since. It would drop calls and restart all the time. So there may not be a complete fix for it.
Good luck

Hey guys, someone posted the HTC Service manual for the Wizard!
In this manual you see pictures how to disassemble the phone!
It's realy the best manual to use for opening your mobile friend....
Good Luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43836

I've successfully fixed my girlfriends crappy creative keyboard once after water damage using a pencil. Depending how the keyboard is made, most of the time there will be really thin conductive tracks literally printed on the substrate. The water isn't particularly nice to these tracks and I found that in some parts there was noticale oxidation/corrosion. By very lightly scratching of the affeted paint and then going over it with a graphite pencil this did the trick.
Just an idea, personally I probably wouldn't do it to my vario but then again I'm still in the honeymoon phase with it.
Good luck

I fix phones for a living for many stores and have many phones that have water damage
what you dont do is charge it.. it will burn out the board
what you do is let it dry out, use the service manual and let it dry out in parts
then get white spirit and a toothbrush... dip it in and clean the contacts for yourk eys
once done, again let it try and then see how it goes. thats what i do, although we have a machine that sends out sonic pulses but the above method works too especially when im lazy

HTC Wizard Disassembly
hi guys. a lot of confusion over this simple matter. I don't know where the PDF file everyone's talking about is, most links didnt work, but here's some pics. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! hahahahaha!
http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?a=274

Hi,
I have a O2 xda model
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.21
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2
there is problem in formating the phone.
Even after a hard reset the Os wont boot,
it says that "formating is failed".
there is a prolem in the flash memory of the phone.
please help me with the assembly and disassembly process so that i can fix it.
Any one?

URGENT Problem with HTC Wizard WM5 doesnt boot

Hi,
I have a problem with my SPv M3000/HTC Wizard/Qtek etc.. A bottle of water spilled in my bag and my pda became Wet AND now it can't boot the os - windows mobile 5. When I switch on the pda on the screen appears a picture with a name of my network [Polish Orange]and 4 lines of numbers :
IPL 2.22.0001
SPL 2.22.0001
GSM 01.04.10
OS 2.22.1.1
To switch of the phone I have to remove it's battery. Btw. a button to switch on and off the pda is a bit pushed but it works quite good.
Charging works, battery works.
I tried to make a hard reset of the pda but it didn't solved the problem.
Btw. I would like to ask you for a fast and urgent help because I'm abroad and I need my phone very much and something with alarm ;(. Unfortunately I have aslo limited acces to the internet so I 'll be very pleased and thankful for your help

Hmmm, there may not be any help for your device...water and fine electronics DO NOT mix! I would try however, take the battery out of your phone, and leave the cover off of it for a few hours, perhaps even with the keyboard extended, and see if the internal circuitry will dry out. You could also try getting ahold of a hair dryer and setting it on LOW, and doing it that way...just be VERY careful if you go down that path, as hair dryers can get EXTREMELY hot!

There are few other alternatives depending on how desperate you are:
2) an oven at Low heat (150 degrees F or less) for maybe 30 minutes as an alternative to the hair dryer.
3) a bag full of fresh Silica Gel to leave the phone in overnight.
4) a high quality isopropyl alcohol: soak the phone in the alcohol, which should displace the water, allow to dry for several hours.
If you have attempted to turn on the phone while wet, it may have already shorted something out.
I would use any of those at your own risk...the alcohol bath seems is probably the most risky and the Silica Gel the least.

Hi again,
I don't want to try your methods because their sound dangerous ;]. I tried only hair dryer but it didn't help ;(.
What do you think about reflashing ROM?

Cadder said:
Hi again,
I don't want to try your methods because their sound dangerous ;]. I tried only hair dryer but it didn't help ;(.
What do you think about reflashing ROM?
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Yup ! very right, what 'ashasaur' posted above "Hmmm, there may not be any help for your device...water and fine electronics DO NOT mix!" unless your phone is completely dried it won't boot or work and I wud rather warn you here,if you persist with turning on the phone like this it'll short circuit and become dead and useless.The only way out is to completely strip or dismantle the phone of its covers and cleaned throughly.
Secondly,its not possible to reflash in this scenario ,as it doesn't boot up,you wud be lucky,if it boots up and start working,after proper cleaning,so stop beating about the bush and start thinking positively,get down to try to dry and clean the phone first.

There's no danger in using the silica gel. It's a desiccant packed with most electronics. Combined with dis-assembling it could be effective.
I agree the other two are pretty scary!

ahhh...very right! I didnt even think about silica gel...or more comonly known as "painters desicant". It does indeed remove the moisture from the air and from any surface within the area...that would be the best choice. The only reason that I recommended the hair dryer was from my own experience with a Palm Treo 650...I dropped it in a glass of water(lol), and dried it with a hair dryer for prolly 20-30 minutes on LOW, and it started to work again!

Desiccant can be had very cheaply, and in large quantities. Just go to a mega store like WalMart, go to the storage section, and look for "cabinet and closet dehumidifier". Remove all the seals and drop your phone right into the pebbles overnight, and that'll take out any moisture.
If it still doesn't boot, no changes of software (flashing) are likely to help. Not booting after water exposure usually means a circuit was shorted. If drying doesn't remove the short, that means something was fried when it shorted. Sorry. Next time get insurance!

I have a warranty for my pda and I dont think that people who will repair my phone will notice what caused damage ;].
But i think i m going to check thaht dehumidifier it sounds quite interesting ;].

[Q] MB526 motherboard drown

By any chance somebody could help me with obtaining Defy+ (MB526) mother board? Mine drown via speak grille recently The phone itself works but since water passed via speak grille, area where proximity sensor and LEDs is wasted with all its resistors(?) making screen backlight and sensor not working while both are actually O.K. I know this because it used to work when I opened phone and wiped all from stain etc. but seems that while I was wiping it, I touched burnt resistors and they crashed disconnecting certain leads making screen and sensor not working again.
By now I end up with options either to purchase a new phone (really sucks theme — I want Nexus4 then and it is out of stock for long time), get a new motherboard (next to impossible to find thus I made this post) or look for someone who could help me to restore resistors on existing mother board (but not sure which are used there).
Hope someone could help me to solve this problem; would really appreciate any help.

You could try looking on eBay, where you can probably find a broken "for parts or not working" MB526 for less than US $100 and then harvest the parts you need from it. Often broken phones just have a cracked display or a bad battery (but be sure to check details in the listing).
I'm not sure if I understood your post completely. If you are sure that you broke components, then you will need to find a circuit schematic for your phone to identify what the broken components are. There appear to be capacitors, inductors, and possibly resistors in the marked area of your picture. It is impossible to tell their exact values from just a picture. You will need to order replacement parts and solder them in the phone. I don't know where to get a repair schematic for this phone.
If the components are undamaged in the marked area, you can try to clean the corrosion / crusted deposits there with isopropyl alcohol or ethanol and a cotton swab (be sure to disconnect the battery while doing this). Often, components will be undamaged by water getting in a phone, but it will cause corrosion that short circuits between components and causes malfunction. Cleaning the affected area may fix this.

Stuck in fastboot with Device Status Locked after dropping in Water. Tried everything

Hi guys, I have dropped my phone in water and now I am stuck in fastboot mode with Device Status as Locked. I have tried every possible things, followed (https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/unbrick-unbrick-tutorial-oneplus-3t-t3515306) as well as (http://www.androidbrick.com/unbrick-oneplus-one-two-3-3t-qualcomm-hs-usb-qdloader-9008/) after doing all steps my phone again comes to fastboot mode and I can not access recovery mode. Can any one please help me. Thanks.

Time for a one plus 5

Did you disassemble it to dry the components? Water contains minerals, some of them are conductive. Unless these parts got cleaned with e.g. alcohol, there's a chance that you still have currents flowing where they should not. Usually you can't do that much damage to PCB etc. with water, but connectors etc. really don't like what is left when the pure water has evaporated.

dreinulldrei said:
Did you disassemble it to dry the components? Water contains minerals, some of them are conductive. Unless these parts got cleaned with e.g. alcohol, there's a chance that you still have currents flowing where they should not. Usually you can't do that much damage to PCB etc. with water, but connectors etc. really don't like what is left when the pure water has evaporated.
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Good advice. Denatured alcohol leaves few conductive impurities behind, so is a good cleaning and evaporative solution.
Also a good idea to disconnect your battery while cleaning.

dreinulldrei said:
Did you disassemble it to dry the components? Water contains minerals, some of them are conductive. Unless these parts got cleaned with e.g. alcohol, there's a chance that you still have currents flowing where they should not. Usually you can't do that much damage to PCB etc. with water, but connectors etc. really don't like what is left when the pure water has evaporated.
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Bro but I can go in fastboot mode and can complete the process in Msmdownloadtool v3.0. However, after it shows "Download complete" my phone again boots to fastboot mode with device locked status. Is it possible that their might be some water left in my phone which is not allowing me to unbrick? (I am not a guy who can understand hardware so I am afraid to open it) Thanks.

If you have toothache, you got to a dentist. If you don't know how to open a phone and are afraid to do so, go see someone who can. It was in water, so it needs to be taken care of as it's not working as expected. You've lost your warranty anyway, so my best guess would be to open it up before sending it back to have it repaired.

dreinulldrei said:
If you have toothache, you got to a dentist. If you don't know how to open a phone and are afraid to do so, go see someone who can. It was in water, so it needs to be taken care of as it's not working as expected. You've lost your warranty anyway, so my best guess would be to open it up before sending it back to have it repaired.
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Hey, I went to repair shop and he removed water with isopropyl alcohol. (charged me $50) but refused to work on software part. I have tried MSMdownloadTool but even after "download complete" my phone boots in Fastboot mode only.