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Can someone please help. I have a new XDA II purchased a couple of weeks ago. I want to add voice dial so that I can record a voice tag to a specific contact, press a button on my bluetooth headset and the XDA II phone will dial that person for me.
Can some kind person please guide me exactly how to go about setting this up?
JSS
You can't record voice tag unfortunatelly... Microsoft sells Microsoft Voice command for
pocket pc for 30$.. you don't need to train it or record voice tag.. it just recognize what
you say. it isn't bad
you can grab it from www.suprnova.com in the App/pocket pc section (you will need a bittorrent client, ABC http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net).
You can use Neuvoice: http://www.neuvoice.com/xdasoftware.php
Allows you to record your own commands. I had problems with some English programs to recognize Dutch names in my contacts.
Neuvoice has to be trained, and this takes some time, but works perfect with foreign languages.
i use vito voice dialer
works great you record your voice tags then if you have button plus installed i have mine lined to the contacts button if i hold it down it will say please say name so you say the voicetag and itll begin to dial works very well
I tried MS voicecommand, and i was not impressed. The thing about "not training" is that it will recognise only the obvious. Also, it was very bad, to pathetic, in recognising things with the earphones on. Add to that noise when driving, it was impossible.
I found the fonix voicedial was very good. I downloaded a trial (gave me a few eeeks to use it, now theres a sensible trial period!), and it was very good.
I havent used vito, maybe give it a go.
fonix is very good fun to play with but it likes to call my dad most of the time lol im like mum....
dial dad
does your head in lol
Vito is the best one ive tried
but fonix is very fun to play with lol
I am french and i need to 'train tag'.
I use neu voice navigator.
For 9,99$, the voice recognition works very well, indoor, outdoor with wind and driving in the car.
Voice dial for XDA II
Thanks to all of you so far. I went to the Vito site and read that it does not work for XDA II.
""IMPORTANT! Doesn't work on MDAII/XDAII
VITO VoiceDialer PE is not currently supported by XDAII/MDAII. When recording a voice tag it brings up an error "Cannot process this file" Our development team is working on the solution. We apologize for the inconvenience. ""
Hopefully this can be fixed soon. I will try some other sites
JSS
I've tried Fonix and MS Voice Command on XDAII and in my view MS Voice Command is the best. Contrary to one of the posts above I've found it very accurate especially after learning how to speak to it after the first couple of days. It works well with the wired earpiece but will not work with a bluetooth headset as it takes its input only from the microphone. As such it is a viable hands free solution and you dont need to train it so if you add a new contact then it is automatically recognised. Beware that the current US version doesnt support dialling of UK phone numbers ie you cannot say 'dial 0113 205 3345' as it will only accept 7 and 10 digit numbers that do not begin with a zero.
I tried MS Voice Command and I must concur with others opinions. Because you cannot train it to learn your voice, it means that you must learn to speak the way it wants you to speak. Fair enough, but the 24-hour trial period is too short. After 24 hours, I could not get it to perform to my satisfaction. Perhaps with a longer trial period I might have learned how to use it.
That is why I am not buying it.
I've tried MS Voice command, and found that unless you want to speak with an American accent then don't bother.
I've also just tried Neuvoice, which works with tags that you assign, and that seems to work extremely well. Now if only one of them could work with a Bluetooth headset! But I guess that's a the fault of the XDA's bluetooth implementation, rather than any of the software.
I purchased MS Voice command (use on my XD2) and as everyone has said it is no good unless you use an american accent...only problem is that I keep talking like an American now :roll: LOL
Thanks - Sunny.
""I've also just tried Neuvoice, which works with tags that you assign, and that seems to work extremely well. Now if only one of them could work with a Bluetooth headset! But I guess that's a the fault of the XDA's bluetooth implementation, rather than any of the software.""
Thanks again. Of course, if it does not work with a bluetooth headset, there really is not much point having it until it does, because the whole idea is to make voice dial calls that are completely 'hands fee'.
I spoke with O2 Mobile Internet support team who tell me that the software will soon have an update (bugfix) which will apparently fix this problem and allow the XDA II to work for voice dial. Does anyone know what this is, when is it coming and how will we be able to get it and put it onto our XDA???
JSS
XDA II update
latest information from O2 is quoting Spring 2004.................
.....................so that'll be 2005 then!
ian
I suppose we will have to rely on the brains of the wonderful people on this forum who will surely come up with a way around the problems.
There must be some way through it. All ideas are welcome
JSS
Bougth a second hand P800 this week to compare with the XDA II.
I must say that the P800 is much more advanced on the phone point. It may be not as performant, but the thing works quite nicely. Voice control works perfect, also with BT headset.
And controlling and operating the phone is much easier thanks to the jog dial. I also like the better implemantation of the phone settings and options. Don't understand why this isn't implemented on more devices.
Think MS still has a long way to go with Pocket PC Phone Edition to reach at least the same phone functionality...
@ Jos
do you know why that is?
its because the p800 is a symbian phone with PDA features
the XDA is a PDA with mobile features
theres the difference
and p800 camera is ****e lol
Hi all!
I Just changed from a P800, and fully agree with gazzaman2k and Jos, P800 is a "so-so good" phone, but a very POOR PDA.
XDAII is a fully functional PDA, but the phone parts leaves so much to be desired......
Any way, I still would be using my P800, should I have been able to fix the SYNC problem.... A phone PDA UNABLE to sync with with your PC is a useless combo. Not to mention the full distress recoveries I had to do with my Outlook contact and agenda files.....
I ended up recovering my old T68 phone, (I need it for the BT carkit) I passed my Cassiopeia EM505 to a friend, my wife got my P800 (unable to sell it on e-bay) and I'm so-so satisfied with my XDA.
Until:
1.- it gets the handsfree BT issue solved (car kit usage)
2.- The Voice command functions are fully implemented (BT headset too)
3.- The phone functions are VERY MUCH IMPROVED (one hand use)
I would NOT consider the XDAII a "PHONE-PDA", but a "PDA-phone". (Capitals being removed intentionally)
BTW, most of the "Voice/dial command" programs I tried are useless and/or unreliable.
but also :x
Indeed, I agree the XDA II is a PDA-PHONE and the P800 a PHONE-PDA.
Would be nice to see an OS that would run on the fast hardware of the XDA II with all the plusses of Pocket PC and Symbian...
And the P800 is for my girlfriend. She needed a new phone and I could get this one for a fair price. Plus it gives me the chance to play around with both en see the pros and cons of both.
For performance and Outlook sync, I prefer the XDA II, but for phone funcionality I prefer the P800...
Voice diaing continued...
The XDA II is a quality PDA with phone functions. Since, I understand, other PDA's (even those without built in phones) are able to have voice dial functions for add-on phones, it seems to me that the XDA II could easily also have these functions. I think that it would just mean getting the right software. How and where from I would like to know?
It may be possible to improve the phone functions, but the single one thing that would improve the XDA II for me is the addition of voice dialing via bluetooth - so that you can record a tag to a contact, press a button on the earpiece, say the contact name and then the number is dialed. That handsfree capability would be a very good start - and let's face it, with driving restrictions etc, these days, it really is essential if the XDA II is ever going to be of any value as a mobile phone.
What I need to know for certain is:-
1.Is there a software that will allow me to have this function.
JSS
Hi
Anyone found any software that offers reliable voice dialing? The MDA Pro comes with somet called "Voice Speed Dial" Its sh1te!
Has a habit of trashing the voice tags of its own accord, and often does not respond when I press button on bluetooth headset.
When the device is closed and off and you press the button on headset nothing happens (PPC is starting up etc) several presses are usually required before you can actually call the contact.
I just tried a trial version of microsoft voice command 1.5 (this I believe is what imate is shipping) unfortunately it cannot understand a word I say!! (could be the devonian accent).
I said 'call work' it said 'calling 999' I managed to hit it with a brick before it actually did call 999 !!!
Anyone suggest something that actually works (flawlessly). I dont mind training it if that means its gonna work!
Nigel
"microsoft voice command" all the way.
Thing is that it doesn't support dutch, but it does support english, german and american, so if you speak any of these languages you will have to get this program.
Dunno about the trial version, but the full version requires you to pronounce right. You can test this by letting someone call you first so you can hear how the program expects you how to pronounce it. (I have dutch names and they are completely different when pronounced by the voice command)
Hope this helps.
I've flashed my MDA Pro with the I-Mate JASJAR rom, and the standard voice dial on that works like a charm!
It even work from my Jabra BT800!
Grrrrr
I'm a native English speaker and it dont ruddy understand me!!
Sounds like many people here have gone for the JasJar rom on their devices. I guess I will give this a go - I just dont want to end up with a useless brick.
Nigel
MS Voice Command - works for me on my jas jar via my moto BT headset even in the car when driving (i.e. with plenty background noise).
If you follow the tips on the MS VC website it makes it even more reliable.
The HTC voicedial program works great for me, and complies with my HS810 headset without any issues whatsoever. In fact it's even recognised my commands with music running in the background. I've tried MSVC in the past on other XDA's and found it to be rather cumbersome.
Ant
I found that Microsoft Voice command when started via bluetooth headset does not turn the link off when it's finished.
The way i got this to work with BT was to replace the file sddialer.exe in the windows folder with the voicecmd.exe file from MS VC.
Does anyone else know a better way of doing this to allow for the BT headset to be turned off automatically once listening is finished ?
Voicedial works, I just find it really slow. It is 100% reliable on the recognition front though.
What I noticed with voice command was an instant response. Press the button and speak, no wait of any kind for the 'beep'.
Voice command simply sticks an icon on the task bar, it does not have to load some monster gui before you can speak. Ditching the gui would be a step forward for the built in voicedial.
Nigel
steverae said:
I found that Microsoft Voice command when started via bluetooth headset does not turn the link off when it's finished
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Hi
How did you get voice command to respond to the bluetooth headset in the first place?
With VC installed, the button on my BT headset is still starting the old HTC voicedial software.
Is there some registry setting somewhere to tell it what to launch?
Nigel
Yes there is a simple registry hack, it's posted else where in these forums but here it is again
Install Voice Command to the default location.
Fire up a registry editor
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
Modify the string marked "path" from the default \Windows\SDDialer.exe to \Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe
This works for me and everyone else who has tried it AFAIK
Hi
How did you get voice command to respond to the bluetooth headset in the first place?
With VC installed, the button on my BT headset is still starting the old HTC voicedial software.
Is there some registry setting somewhere to tell it what to launch?
Nigel
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I simply replace the file sddialer.exe with the voicecmd.exe and renamed the voicecmd.exe to sddialer.exe. After a softreset that's it.
Still can't fathom out a way to close the BT link though without doing it manunally from the headset.
Also does anyone have Fonix Voice Central installed on their Universal, i always get an error saying unsigned program or summit like that when i try to install the trial.
voicedial
I am italian mother tongue. Cyberon voicedial works incredibly well. I tried vito's program in the past. Average it could recognize 10%.
The cyb's software is awsome. I use it with a Jabra BT800 headset and recognize voice even in noisy environment.
Must tell that I am very satisfied with my JJ. Absolutely no problems in any way.
Installing unsigned apps on WM5
Trying to install Fonix Voice Central 3.0 Trial on my new Universal but keep getting an error stating unable to install as it is from a untrusted source or is an unsigned program.
Please help
Hi
OK, so its more reliable when using the bluetooth headset - it even understands devonian! BUT and this is a big but... why the heck does it not work when the device is closed (screen inside) and switched off??
Nuts... I get the beep from voice command after pressing button on the headset, but it ignores what I say. Performing the same thing with the screen open laptop or pda style (with device switched off) works fine, but not with the ruddy screen closed.
Anyone else experienced this?? Screen closed it how my device stays most of the time.
I see what people have been saying about it leaving the bluetooth channel open after as well - mad!
Nigel
Voice command does not respond when unit closed
Hi
Voice command not responding when unit closed (screen inside), and using button on BT headset.
Has no-one else found this, and if it works for them can they post rom versions. Certainly does not work on MDA Pro shipped rom!
When unit open, or screen folded outside PDA style, VC does respond to BT headset fine. Just not when its closed.
Nigel
I have imate JJ italian rom.
Works perfectly with Jabra BT800 and device switched off (screen closed down).
No problem at all!
Thanks - looks like a bug in the ancient MDA Pro software.
I was holding off flashing it with imate roms case I heard a rumour that t-mobile are about to release a new rom soon which may be newer again I suppose.
Nigel
Well, I put the imate rom on there and that did not solve it. Voice command does not work from bluetooth headset when unit closed. It gives me the beep prompt to say its listening, but it never responds. Open screen and all is well.
Save me some money anyway, no point in buying Voice Command if it does not work properly!
Nigel
veletron said:
Voicedial works, I just find it really slow. It is 100% reliable on the recognition front though.
What I noticed with voice command was an instant response. Press the button and speak, no wait of any kind for the 'beep'.
Voice command simply sticks an icon on the task bar, it does not have to load some monster gui before you can speak. Ditching the gui would be a step forward for the built in voicedial.
Nigel
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Ive just been using the bog standard voice recognition. No problems at all, even works with background noise.
Im guessing that some people havent read instructions properly
The HTC software that comes with the device does work (reliably) its just too slow to be of any use.
10 secs to respond when unit is off/closed. If I dont get a prompt response i'll press the button on the headset again which seems to confuse the hell out of it.
This is my reason for trying voice command... Response time from voice command (from unit off) is 2 secs max. Unfortunately it does not ruddy well work when lid is closed (no matter whether unit is on/off).
Nigel
Hi all,
Please go easy on me here, as I have some probably pretty basic questions. I have been digging around the internet (mostly these forums) for the past two days since I got my new Mogul from Sprint running WM6. I had the PPC-6700 prior to this (as I expect most of you had) and I was fairly good at tinkering on that one, but I'm on new ground here with WM6 and a new phone.
First, I am a little confused by all the names.
For sure, I know that this phone can be called the Titan, the Mogul, or the PPC-6800. What I'm not sure of is that some people also call this the Hermes or the TyTn. I figured Titan and TyTn were the same things, but apparently not.
The main reason I'm asking is so that when I am looking for information and posts on this phone, which can I use and which should I disregard. It seems that many of the things posted under the Hermes forum are valid for the Mogul as well, but alas..I'm confused.
Once we get names settled, I'm going to start with only one other question that I have dire need for. I have looked around for answers and most are many months old, so I have to think that there are some more recent findings. My question regards Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 with a BT headset on this phone.
I have installed MS VC 1.6 and paired my new Cardo Scala 800 headset. It seems to work with the following problems:
1) BT quality is not great, including VC voice getting cut off. This is my first BT headset with this phone, and I have read that many people have poor BT quality with this phone. If that's the case, can anyone recommend a BT headset that works well with this phone (preferablly one that charges directly via mini-USB).
2) Confirmation don't work - based on what I have read this is a problem with all WM6 phones with VC 1.6. It appears the only solution is to disable confirmations completely. I have done this and it appears to be able to function. I just want to confirm that there isn't any newer data out there for this issue.
3) Last issue is that I don't get notifications. Meaning, when an incoming call comes in I get the ringing sound, but it doesn't tell me the name. In my searches I came across this posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881&page=51
It is for the Hermes (again..confused) but contains a zip file with 4 files to copy over the default VC files. When I did this and reset my phone, notifications seem to work. I want to make sure that this is the best way to get VC 1.6 working as fully as possible on this phone.
I really appreciate any feedback you can give.... I have a few more questions, but I'll wait till we get these squared away.
Thanks to all!
Well, I've not been a Mogul owner for much longer than you, and certainly have been a PPC owner less (this is my first PPC), however let me try to answer a few of your questions.
First, the "Sprint Mogul" is Sprint's name for this phone. The phone "codename" of sorts is the Titan, and model is the PPC-6800. Hopefully I got that all right. Bottom line, they all refer to the same phone. Also, different cell companies have different names for phones, so it can get a little confusing sometimes.
Now the TyTN is the same device as the Hermes, aka the 8525. From what I've gathered in my short experience, this is basically the same same phone as the Titan, however, it's the AT&T GSM version. Where we have CDMA and EVDO, it has GSM and HSDPA.
The files get tricky too, and you have to know your way around the system before you try replacing files from other phones. A lot of files (and issues) are general for WM6. That means that any device running WM6 may have these same files, behaviors, or issues. However, with that said, certain files are specific to the network. Some of the things like dialers are coded for GSM on one phone, and CDMA on another. So if you think it might have anything to do with the network, double check before you replace it from another phone that's on a different network. In your case, the voice command thing is general to WM6, so grabbing the files from the Hermes was ok.
The bluetooth? Well, that's a question a lot of us still have. The bluetooth on these phones suck. I've heard a lot of people say it's HTC's fault, and I've also heard a few people say WM6 just isn't good with BT anyway. I personally haven't gotten into what's wrong with it much yet, so I can't tell you exactly the issues, but we can only hope for a firmware and/or software update in the future that will help these problems.
I know that if you look around, I've seen lists where people have listed which BT headsets seem to work well, and which don't. The only I have, and thus have tested, is a Jawbone, and I can report, as well as tell you from reading, it's one of the better BT headsets for this phone. It's a little expensive though, so it's not in everyone's price range. Unfortunately I can't help much past that since I've never used any other, but if you search you can probably find threads like I mentioned and just get feedback from other people.
Also, I've never played with Voice Command, so I can't answer any more specific questions on that subject. Hopefully I helped clear a few things up. As I said, I'm definitely still learning myself, but I've been taking in all kinds of information. I love this phone and don't see how I've survived without a PocketPC before.
Ajerman,
Thanks for your input. Ok that makes sense regarding the AT&T GSM version. I think most of what I will want to tweak will be related to WM6 and not carriers.
Unfortunately my Cardo 800 BT headset is my first headset too, and this is the first time I'm using it with the phone. So, I too don't have anything to gauge it against. I'm probably going to return the headset however as it was advertised as having a mini-usb charging jack, when infact it has a micro-usb. I saw the jawbone, looks nice, but again, I only want a headset that uses a mini-usb jack (too many adapters to carry around).
My next questions (hopefully someone can address), is unlocking the Extended ROM for customization. I did this on the PPC-6700 WM5 with an Extended rom unlocker tool and modified the config.txt in there to automatically install certain apps upon hard-reset.
I need to assist the mobile admins at my company with setting everyone's phone up with some additional settings en masse.
Is it safe to use the same procedures on WM6? I'm probably going to try it anyway but thought someone could point me to a good primer on upgrading my skills from WM5 to WM6.
Any more input is valued!
thanks
everyonce in a while i can get it to partially work, i'll activate by pushing the bluetooth button and get it to ask me to "call this person" but i say yes it doesn't respond. other times pushing the bt button does nothing, and randomly it will read part of a text message through my bt but not consistent and not all of it. i found somewhere yesterday a zip file that had the registry hack for a kaiser with the same issue and now can't find it to try. are there any hacks that will help me out with the blackjack i617 running windows mobile 6? i realize this may be the wrong forum, but it had the most people in it.
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everyonce in a while i can get it to partially work, i'll activate by pushing the bluetooth button and get it to ask me to "call this person" but i say yes it doesn't respond. other times pushing the bt button does nothing, and randomly it will read part of a text message through my bt but not consistent and not all of it. i found somewhere yesterday a zip file that had the registry hack for a kaiser with the same issue and now can't find it to try. are there any hacks that will help me out with the blackjack i617 running windows mobile 6? i realize this may be the wrong forum, but it had the most people in it.
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instead of yes say "correct"
In the tutorial they say if it doesn't pick up shorted words like yes to use longer ones. Yes would only work about 40% of the time. Correct works 100% for me. Only problem though that i had.
my prob is bc of bj2 not having the ms bt stack. is there a reg hack to where i can use bt all the time and not randomly as it is now
so does anyone know a registhack that will allow the voice command to work with bluetooth on the blackjack 2?
I think I'm in the right section, if not let me know.
Just 3 things - I'll start with the most important:
1) Donate -
How do I donate to this site? I tried the donate link but it gets me to a site that is not in English. I can understand most of what to do but would feel more comfortable with it in my language since I unfortunately only read English. (And I'd love to get one of those cute stars on my name)
2) Fix for voice command so all audio goes through bluetooth headset -
Just bought an omnia ii and desperately need a voice command program that works with it so I can get all audio going through my bluetooth (BlueAnt). I'm a community and union organizer in LA and dialing on the road safely or hearing my GPS instructions through the headset is essential. I got the voice command from microsoft even though it is not completely compatible but there was nothing else out there for the omnia ii.
And I can't get tech support since it hasn't launched in the U.S. yet.
3) Not to worry if no one has an answer to this since - I still want to donate since I already got a great fix for screen rotation from here that works like a charm and love the communal cooperation here. Thanks and hope this isn't too long.