voice dial on XDA II - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Can someone please help. I have a new XDA II purchased a couple of weeks ago. I want to add voice dial so that I can record a voice tag to a specific contact, press a button on my bluetooth headset and the XDA II phone will dial that person for me.
Can some kind person please guide me exactly how to go about setting this up?
JSS

You can't record voice tag unfortunatelly... Microsoft sells Microsoft Voice command for
pocket pc for 30$.. you don't need to train it or record voice tag.. it just recognize what
you say. it isn't bad
you can grab it from www.suprnova.com in the App/pocket pc section (you will need a bittorrent client, ABC http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net).

You can use Neuvoice: http://www.neuvoice.com/xdasoftware.php
Allows you to record your own commands. I had problems with some English programs to recognize Dutch names in my contacts.
Neuvoice has to be trained, and this takes some time, but works perfect with foreign languages.

i use vito voice dialer
works great you record your voice tags then if you have button plus installed i have mine lined to the contacts button if i hold it down it will say please say name so you say the voicetag and itll begin to dial works very well

I tried MS voicecommand, and i was not impressed. The thing about "not training" is that it will recognise only the obvious. Also, it was very bad, to pathetic, in recognising things with the earphones on. Add to that noise when driving, it was impossible.
I found the fonix voicedial was very good. I downloaded a trial (gave me a few eeeks to use it, now theres a sensible trial period!), and it was very good.
I havent used vito, maybe give it a go.

fonix is very good fun to play with but it likes to call my dad most of the time lol im like mum....
dial dad
does your head in lol
Vito is the best one ive tried
but fonix is very fun to play with lol

I am french and i need to 'train tag'.
I use neu voice navigator.
For 9,99$, the voice recognition works very well, indoor, outdoor with wind and driving in the car.

Voice dial for XDA II
Thanks to all of you so far. I went to the Vito site and read that it does not work for XDA II.
""IMPORTANT! Doesn't work on MDAII/XDAII
VITO VoiceDialer PE is not currently supported by XDAII/MDAII. When recording a voice tag it brings up an error "Cannot process this file" Our development team is working on the solution. We apologize for the inconvenience. ""
Hopefully this can be fixed soon. I will try some other sites
JSS

I've tried Fonix and MS Voice Command on XDAII and in my view MS Voice Command is the best. Contrary to one of the posts above I've found it very accurate especially after learning how to speak to it after the first couple of days. It works well with the wired earpiece but will not work with a bluetooth headset as it takes its input only from the microphone. As such it is a viable hands free solution and you dont need to train it so if you add a new contact then it is automatically recognised. Beware that the current US version doesnt support dialling of UK phone numbers ie you cannot say 'dial 0113 205 3345' as it will only accept 7 and 10 digit numbers that do not begin with a zero.

I tried MS Voice Command and I must concur with others opinions. Because you cannot train it to learn your voice, it means that you must learn to speak the way it wants you to speak. Fair enough, but the 24-hour trial period is too short. After 24 hours, I could not get it to perform to my satisfaction. Perhaps with a longer trial period I might have learned how to use it.
That is why I am not buying it.

I've tried MS Voice command, and found that unless you want to speak with an American accent then don't bother.
I've also just tried Neuvoice, which works with tags that you assign, and that seems to work extremely well. Now if only one of them could work with a Bluetooth headset! But I guess that's a the fault of the XDA's bluetooth implementation, rather than any of the software.

I purchased MS Voice command (use on my XD2) and as everyone has said it is no good unless you use an american accent...only problem is that I keep talking like an American now :roll: LOL
Thanks - Sunny.

""I've also just tried Neuvoice, which works with tags that you assign, and that seems to work extremely well. Now if only one of them could work with a Bluetooth headset! But I guess that's a the fault of the XDA's bluetooth implementation, rather than any of the software.""
Thanks again. Of course, if it does not work with a bluetooth headset, there really is not much point having it until it does, because the whole idea is to make voice dial calls that are completely 'hands fee'.
I spoke with O2 Mobile Internet support team who tell me that the software will soon have an update (bugfix) which will apparently fix this problem and allow the XDA II to work for voice dial. Does anyone know what this is, when is it coming and how will we be able to get it and put it onto our XDA???
JSS

XDA II update
latest information from O2 is quoting Spring 2004.................
.....................so that'll be 2005 then!
ian

I suppose we will have to rely on the brains of the wonderful people on this forum who will surely come up with a way around the problems.
There must be some way through it. All ideas are welcome
JSS

Bougth a second hand P800 this week to compare with the XDA II.
I must say that the P800 is much more advanced on the phone point. It may be not as performant, but the thing works quite nicely. Voice control works perfect, also with BT headset.
And controlling and operating the phone is much easier thanks to the jog dial. I also like the better implemantation of the phone settings and options. Don't understand why this isn't implemented on more devices.
Think MS still has a long way to go with Pocket PC Phone Edition to reach at least the same phone functionality...

@ Jos
do you know why that is?
its because the p800 is a symbian phone with PDA features
the XDA is a PDA with mobile features
theres the difference
and p800 camera is ****e lol

Hi all!
I Just changed from a P800, and fully agree with gazzaman2k and Jos, P800 is a "so-so good" phone, but a very POOR PDA.
XDAII is a fully functional PDA, but the phone parts leaves so much to be desired......
Any way, I still would be using my P800, should I have been able to fix the SYNC problem.... A phone PDA UNABLE to sync with with your PC is a useless combo. Not to mention the full distress recoveries I had to do with my Outlook contact and agenda files.....
I ended up recovering my old T68 phone, (I need it for the BT carkit) I passed my Cassiopeia EM505 to a friend, my wife got my P800 (unable to sell it on e-bay) and I'm so-so satisfied with my XDA.
Until:
1.- it gets the handsfree BT issue solved (car kit usage)
2.- The Voice command functions are fully implemented (BT headset too)
3.- The phone functions are VERY MUCH IMPROVED (one hand use)
I would NOT consider the XDAII a "PHONE-PDA", but a "PDA-phone". (Capitals being removed intentionally)
BTW, most of the "Voice/dial command" programs I tried are useless and/or unreliable.
but also :x

Indeed, I agree the XDA II is a PDA-PHONE and the P800 a PHONE-PDA.
Would be nice to see an OS that would run on the fast hardware of the XDA II with all the plusses of Pocket PC and Symbian...
And the P800 is for my girlfriend. She needed a new phone and I could get this one for a fair price. Plus it gives me the chance to play around with both en see the pros and cons of both.
For performance and Outlook sync, I prefer the XDA II, but for phone funcionality I prefer the P800...

Voice diaing continued...
The XDA II is a quality PDA with phone functions. Since, I understand, other PDA's (even those without built in phones) are able to have voice dial functions for add-on phones, it seems to me that the XDA II could easily also have these functions. I think that it would just mean getting the right software. How and where from I would like to know?
It may be possible to improve the phone functions, but the single one thing that would improve the XDA II for me is the addition of voice dialing via bluetooth - so that you can record a tag to a contact, press a button on the earpiece, say the contact name and then the number is dialed. That handsfree capability would be a very good start - and let's face it, with driving restrictions etc, these days, it really is essential if the XDA II is ever going to be of any value as a mobile phone.
What I need to know for certain is:-
1.Is there a software that will allow me to have this function.
JSS

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Jabra BT800 - yes or no?

Hi!
I was about to buy another bluetooth headset and am seriously considering the jabra bt800.
I had a Jabra bt250v....which recently took a spin in my washing machine, now rendered worthless
The problems with my 250v were -
1. Lots of static noise (phone in my pocket)
2. Bad range
3. Most times, the voice dial wouldnt pick up, when i hit the button on the jabra (this i think is a ms ppc os problem though)
Having said that, i think the bt800 would be better due to their new DSP technology, and of course the btooth 1.2 specifications. A few questions i have though -
1. How is the audio quality when you keep your device in a tight jeans pant for instance?
2. Whats the range of the device?
3. Does the caller id display the name in my address book?
4. How's the battery life?
And the last question, is it worth buying it....and will i regret it???!
Thanks!
San
With the Universal:
- okay sound quality
- no caller name just number on the display
- good battery life as long as you run down before first full charge
- range is good but is limited by the Universal not the BT800
Yes it is worth buying but be aware that on the ear it may not feel as secure as the BT250
jah said:
With the Universal:
- okay sound quality
- no caller name just number on the display
- good battery life as long as you run down before first full charge
- range is good but is limited by the Universal not the BT800
Yes it is worth buying but be aware that on the ear it may not feel as secure as the BT250
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I heard some of the devices, when paired with, reveal the contact name in the address book too....i saw it on a couple reviews. Strange that the universal cant do something like that...
Have you tried with the latest Jasjar ROM? (with aku2?)
Thanks for your feedback Jah...
cheers,
S
@dreamtheatre, I have not tried the latest Universal ROM as I am waiting for O2 to release their version. But I do have the latest BT800 firmware for Europe. For transfer of the Contacts details you need the handfree BT profile (or is the heaset profile?) - not sure if the latest ROM supports both BT profiles though.
I have not got that working
More to the point, I can not find any settings on my universal or BT800 for remote sim or remote contact access which is needed to access the address book.
I would love to leave my universal in my bag and make a call from the headset accessing my address book.
I see no menu in the BT800 to allow this.
Hope I am wrong and someone can tell em how to do it!
I have latest t-mobile a2dp rom and latest jabra rom
@GDawes, I don't think the BT800 allows remote access, it allows previously used numbers (people who call you) to be called from the headset. I think the Tekkeon ET3000 gives you the function to access the address book, but not with the Universal as fas I know.
Re: I have not got that working
GDawes said:
More to the point, I can not find any settings on my universal or BT800 for remote sim or remote contact access which is needed to access the address book.
I would love to leave my universal in my bag and make a call from the headset accessing my address book.
I see no menu in the BT800 to allow this.
Hope I am wrong and someone can tell em how to do it!
I have latest t-mobile a2dp rom and latest jabra rom
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I guess my question wasn't lucid enough....
what I meant to ask was...if the display on the headset shows the caller's name which is taken from the address book on the device.
Does it?? please tell me it does!
thanks,
San
BT800
The BT800 does not show the name even with the latest ROM. It only shows the number of the person that is calling you.
@dreamtheatre,
there are two functions:
1. When you get a call, the name of the caller is extracted from the address book
2. You can scan through your full address book from your headset to make a call
Now, for #1 I know you need both handfree and headset BT profiles, for #2 I have only seen the Tekkeon and I think some SE headsets that claim they can do this. But I think you need both BT profiles. I do not think this is the case for the Universal. I hope someone with the latest ROM can verify the BT profiles that are supported.
(my free Moto v3x supports both BT profiles and yes with my Tekkeon I can see who is calling me - but the HTC Universal may be behind the curve a bit)
jah said:
@dreamtheatre,
there are two functions:
1. When you get a call, the name of the caller is extracted from the address book
2. You can scan through your full address book from your headset to make a call
Now, for #1 I know you need both handfree and headset BT profiles, for #2 I have only seen the Tekkeon and I think some SE headsets that claim they can do this. But I think you need both BT profiles. I do not think this is the case for the Universal. I hope someone with the latest ROM can verify the BT profiles that are supported.
(my free Moto v3x supports both BT profiles and yes with my Tekkeon I can see who is calling me - but the HTC Universal may be behind the curve a bit)
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thanks for the detailed reply m8!
Its a pity that this 200kg monster cant send out a friggin name :twisted: arghhh!
again, somethings dont change.....we got to wait for our sweet monopolistic company to release a rom upgrade....we know how long that can be! (well, i actually love MS )
cheers,
S
well, you guys still didnt answer my question........
do i buy it or not??????!!!
best,
San
@dreamtheatre, after a bit of reflection I suggest you buy a modern SE BT headset with caller ID as the DSP capability (for reducing background noise etc) of the newer SE headset will better than the 2 year old design of the BT800. Also I have found the newer SE headsets to be more comfortable and lighter.
Another annoying point of bt800
The BT800 only pairs to a single device at a time.
My moto ht820 support multiple connections which is nice, I have my universal as my phone paired, and my magician with a2dp paired as an mp3 player. When I get a call it is routed throught headset and music is paused.
Wanted to connect my BT800 to laptop for Voip and mobile phone, but forced to choose 1 the other.
Also the design is not that re assuring , have the feeling it could fall off at any moment
I have the V3 BTH-8 and Im quite happy with it. i think it's cheaper, lighter, faster, better than Jabra bt800...but Im not ecstatic since it has the same problem as BT800. It just shows the number not the name. It says it's able to show the name and even browse the phone book of other models.. but not our beloved universal. I hope someone comes out with an upgrade for our phone so that i can maximize my V3 headset..
cuteangelika said:
I have the V3 BTH-8 and Im quite happy with it. i think it's cheaper, lighter, faster, better than Jabra bt800...but Im not ecstatic since it has the same problem as BT800. It just shows the number not the name. It says it's able to show the name and even browse the phone book of other models.. but not our beloved universal. I hope someone comes out with an upgrade for our phone so that i can maximize my V3 headset..
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After i saw your earlier post where you mentioned about your oled headset, thats ever since i've been thrown into a dilemma (i never knew the v3 headset existed!). Now i'm finding it hard to make a choice...
According to the feature sheet, the oled claims more (15 number history compared to 10 - i know i'm being a little anal here , and address book browsing etc.)
The problem though, I dont seem to find a distributor here in this god forsaken place :evil:
I'm trying to get it from a friend of mine who's currently in singapore....if he manages to find it, i might just end up with one of those....lets see
btw, ca....you have no major issues with it, do you? Stuff like static noise, or interference problems, or whatever may be! ??
cheers,
S
I have both the Jabra BT800 and the Tekkeon 3000. Both are good units but the Jabra has better sound quality when used with my Exec. I have also used both units with a XDA Mini S for about 2 weeks and came to the same conclusion. With the Mini S, I was able to pull the phone book but it was a pain. It allows you to scroll from a to z one name at a time, one number per name at a time. This means that if you have say 50 names with 2 numbers each (mobile number and home number) then you would have to press the button 20 times just to get to the 10 person in my phonebook and the second number for that person. When I first read about this feature I was exicited but in application it is a pain so this is not a feature I will be using. Other than that the features are pretty close and with the Tekeon coming out alittle ahead with last 15 number recall versa the last 10 of the Jabra.
The Jabra (with it's out dated looks) has become my choice for 2 reasons, sound quality (as mentioned above) and upgradability. The Jabra can be firmware upgraded by the user as Jabra releases new code so it may be possible to have new features in the future.
Just my humble opinion
Batman - agree about the scrolling problem with the Tekkeon but its battery life, for me at least, has been much better than wih the BT800. The funny thing is that my 3 year old SE HBH-200 can do basically what the BT800 is designed to do (i.e. caller ID and making calls from the headset).
WOULDNT BUY IT AT ALL.
I have installed latest ROM, and use BT800. No caller ID. But this could be sortly solved with latest firmware.
Dont like sound quality. To be more precise, almost nobody understands me while using it. If I am in the street, forget about having a conversation. Metallical sound, etc.
Despite some things I have read before, not that good battery life I'd say.
In the end, I dont like it, but check out more opinions. Mine is a little bit "oriented" as I am so with it.
@jmcl, as I said before the digital signal processing technology of the BT800 is now 2 years old. The latest SE phones are better for noise reduction or you can use the HBH-300 with a very good boom mic.
@jah
what nextgen headsets from SE are you talking about? I dont find any headsets from SE with a display on it (except for one, which is totally lame )
is there something i'm missing?
thanks for all your views guys,
San

Voice Command 1.6 UK version BT initiation

Nice to see this new Sable forum and hope it grows with time.
Has anyone achieved VC 1.6 initiation from their Bluetooth earpiece?
I can't. Running WM5 5.1.195 on HP 6915, and guess that is the problem.
No ROM update as far as I'm aware, but please correct me!
Am I flogging a dead horse trying to find a fix?
Alternatively, has anyone got VC 1.5 running properly with the reg hacks? It worked just fine on my old Universal.
$9.99 to downgrade....not such a great deal in my book! Could someone look to see if I have "idiot" written on my forehead?
I have a hw6955 and version voice command 1.6 and I've tried the hack (which starts vc1.6 when the headset button is pushed) that's been used on other wm5 devices and it doesn't work.
Voice command 1.6 is great and I still use it, I've assigned the side button to start vc 1.6.
Trouble is, the device turns off after a few minutes anyways and it seems to lose connection to my BT headset. You have to turn the device on and then press the side button to start vc. If a call comes in, I have to press the button on the headset to reconnect to the device anyways. Not sure if this is normal, because hardly anyone has sables.
Could pressing the button on a headset, turn the device back on and start voice command? That would be awesome. Anyways, the 6955 is a great device, just needs a few more people hacking for it.
1500 and 3000ma batteries for out for it, the 300 gives 4 days of use, which is amazing. The 1500 provides 25% more power then the OEM battery and is the same form factor (and weight).
I don't have the cut-off problem at all.
In the hands-free setting (Bluetooth Manager/Handsfree Connection/HandsFree Settings) I've ticked the box for Standard Audio as well as Telephone Calls - perhaps that makes a difference. Mine (Moto) stays on and I also get all my TomTom instructions through it. Voice recognition through the BT headset is pretty poor though.
Where did you get your batts? I've got the 2500 from eBay - larger size with back cover that is a different colour to the PDA and not a terribly good fit. £15 from Hong Kong - but I can live with that! Found a nice case from US that takes the larger battery.
I have a logitech one, I'm not sure if it's all the great. I may try a moto one. If I turn on both telephone and all sounds in the bluetooth menu, then I find that there is a lot of background static on the headset. People have mentioned that it sounds like I am standing by a jet taking off! Anyways, I think it's the implementation of bluetooth on the hp models and not the headset, but until I try another one, then I don't know.
Have you read the thread here about activating voice dial with the headset button? It's really good.
any more information on this? BTW, all 6940/45/50/55 ipaq users should be using microsoft voice command 1.6. It works amazing for voice dialing. No training, it just works.
If someone could get the bluetooth headset button to initiate the voice command software on the ipaq, that would be ideal.
A lot of smartphone, pda users are attempting to get voice dialing working with bluetooth headsets. There are various posts on here about it.
Obviously, there isn't a huge following for the 6900 series... That is not good.
Battery life would be the most obvious reason!
I have MS Voice Command 1.6 UK Version running fine on my PDA (fair enoughitsan Orbit / Artemis / P3300) but everythingworks fine, announcing calls /messages / BT headset button / voice dailling the lot.

bluetooth question

On my old phone (nokia n95) if I connected a bluetooth hands-free device (either sony car stereo or a ear-piece), then pressing and holding the button would allow me to speak the name of a person on my contacts list.
Is this possible on the HD2?
I have installed Cyberon Voice Speed Dial - and that does work, however it isn't ideals because
a) it needs training for every contact and
b) it doesn't react to the press of a button on my bluetooth devices.
Many thanks in advance
gneville said:
On my old phone (nokia n95) if I connected a bluetooth hands-free device (either sony car stereo or a ear-piece), then pressing and holding the button would allow me to speak the name of a person on my contacts list.
Is this possible on the HD2?
I have installed Cyberon Voice Speed Dial - and that does work, however it isn't ideals because
a) it needs training for every contact and
b) it doesn't react to the press of a button on my bluetooth devices.
Many thanks in advance
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There is no native support like in a symbian os. So you have to use an app like the Cyberon...
I didn't find a better working prog yet
It seems rather ridiculous that such an 'advanced' phone cannot do this!
gneville said:
It seems rather ridiculous that such an 'advanced' phone cannot do this!
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yes and no.
It is an expensive phone but its a great value/mony for a ppc. If you want a phone that does telephone stuff perfectly then you best go (back) to a normal model like a sony ericsson, nokia or samsung.
If you want a device capable of a whole lot of things then you have a ppc but with a ppc you have somethings that work not so good or even don't work at all...
Disagree, first and foremost it is a smartphone.
Bluetooth is not new technology, either . .?
Anyways, I don't really care for the why's and what-for's I'm just after a solution. .!

Bluetooth Voice Dialing for the Android OS

Does anyone know if there will be any progress getting bluetooth headsets to voice dial with the Android OS? From what I've seen, Google has been very lax in pushing forward with this much needed capability. They have not even added it in version 2.1.
Is there any way that a workaround can be implemented? I have been holding off getting an Android phone for this very reason.
I apologize if this topic has been posted elsewhere.
Alex
Try Voice Dialer HF. Not perfect but works very well.
http://www.dfxmobile.com/voicedialerhf
blazingwolf said:
Try Voice Dialer HF. Not perfect but works very well.
http://www.dfxmobile.com/voicedialerhf
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Interesting, but i'm not able to found it in market...... any ideas?
Tia
Idk
The Verizon Devour and the Canadian Droid on Telus, called the Milestone, have Bluetooth initiated voice dialing by a company called Nuance. The built-in Android/Google voice recognition has had it's BTVD disabled because it only doesn't perform well with a Bluetooth headset but is apparently adequate with the phones mic. I wish someone would use the ROMs from those phones to add this feature to the Droid or Incredible but so far no one has. It'd even be cool to see if someone could compile a ROM for Android that flips the switch in the code just so people can try it out. Or better yet, fix whatever problem there is with the quality of Bluetooth voice so that the built-in Android voice recognition could handle it. Man, I want to get rid of my Devour but I can't until I can safely use these killer phones in my car.
The built-in Android/Google voice recognition has had it's BTVD disabled because it only doesn't perform well with a Bluetooth headset but is apparently adequate with the phones mic.
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This whole issue is like deja vu for those of us that were old-timers with Windows Mobile, which also didn't support VD via the BT headset. And ironically, the excuse given by Microsoft was exactly the same: that voice quality wasn't good enough for voice recognition when using a BT headset. However, MS somehow managed to magically solve this -- voice dial via BT is now supported in WM and works great.
So I have to think that Google's bright engineers could do the same thing if it became a priority. It's obviously not, and won't be unless users really start complaining loudly enough. That's exactly what it took to get action from MS, too.
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Help - Bluetooth and Voice Dialling

As it says.
I have an HCB 150 BT car kit which has workred well with other SE phones and it imported/used the phones phone book and allowed BT voice dialling Safe and legal.
X10 connects easily and reliably but no phonebook available (is this PBAP?) Thinks bum! but OK I can live with that as voice dialling is available. Er. apparantly not
Can't believe that a flagship phone can't do these things even worse the documentation does not make these issues clear.
I really like the phone BUT had I known this I would have waited.
I hope (really really really) that it will be the subject of an update.
Leaving BT aside has anyone got the voive dialler to work? I can't. It does not seem to be able to recognise anything.........................dimwit ding.
Oh, and battery life sucks - I know i've read the thread..........all of it.
I tried it once.. and failed.. but thought nothing of it as I wasn't really bothered to use it.. never really had a lot of success with voice dialling on any handset i've had... so I downloaded oftseen gestures which allow you to swipe a gesture to call someone.. I've used that for my main numbers..
No good for driving though................................................
What about that phone book access...........can you help?
Voice dialing using a bluetooth device is not supported by Android 1.6. I don't know whether 2.1 does, but it is one of the major drawbacks of Android devices.
Tons of complains about this feature that Google somehow failed to do. This is specially bad in places where it is illegal to hold a phone while driving.
Edit: Did a search. Apparently, 2.1 does not support bluetooth dialing either. Some people found a solution by using bluetooth headsets that store the contact list in the headset.
Is that 2.1 that shifts the phonebook to the headset? Or is 1.6 supposed to be able to do it?
Help, about to crash whilst attempting to illegally dial..................
Google feels a law suit coming on.............
Bump..............
I meant that I found somewhere, someone stated that there are some bluetooth headsets that store the phone list in the headset's own memory and it is the headset itself that recognizes your voice and instructs the phone to dial. I have searched the web and can't find such a device.
I don't think you will find an answer here or anywhere. You can go to a Google hosted forum and complain over there. This issue has been around since the first Android phone, and I am like you, at a loss why Google can't write a piece of software to deal with this.
Thanks vistador. I assume that in the US hands free is mandatory whilst driving, in which case I foresee law suits against Google?Android for not providing somehting that has been readily available for years.
How do i COMPLAIN DIRECTLY TO gOOGLE?

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