using gprs/umts while USB connected - Networking

Hi,
Is there a way, to only use GPRS/UMTS connection while the device is connected via USB? When I'm connected via USB, my Hermes tries to use the ActiveSync connection for Internet, which won't work (company proxy), so I want to have UMTS connection, but still be able to remote-control via USB...

mine use gprs when i choose my isp in settings->connections->connections-Advanced-select network
even when connected to activesync

hm, I have for both settings there "E-Plus Internet", i.e. my provider... still it doesn't connect. As soon as I disconnect USB, it works.

then i would try unchecking enable advanced network functionality
in usb to pc in connections

still the same... doesn't connect

TauTau said:
Hi,
Is there a way, to only use GPRS/UMTS connection while the device is connected via USB? When I'm connected via USB, my Hermes tries to use the ActiveSync connection for Internet, which won't work (company proxy), so I want to have UMTS connection, but still be able to remote-control via USB...
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On the PC head into ActiveSync, open up the Connection Settings for the device in question, try unchecking "Allow data connections on device when connected to PC".
Disconnect the device from USB, then reconnect and sync, then try to access the internet on the device.

hm, I thought exactly that option should be checked, because it says "allow wireless connections while connected to the PC". Nonetheless, I unchecked it, dis-/reconnected it, still no go.

Is this because you dont have the net on your PC?
Maybe your provider doesn't allow tethering. I.e. using the phones internet connection whilst connected to the pc.
You can use PDAnet ,download trial from here
http://software.palminfocenter.com/product.asp?id=4237
this will allow you to use the internet whilst connected to the pc, but this will also mean the pc can also use the internet of the phone, i am not sure if this is exactly what you want, as you dont indicate the reason why you want to be able to connect to the net on the device. Anyway using PDAnet, you will still be able to sync,browse and use the device as you normally would, as well as access the internet on the PPC and PC.

scousemartin said:
Is this because you dont have the net on your PC?
Maybe your provider doesn't allow tethering. I.e. using the phones internet connection whilst connected to the pc.
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There is internet on the PC, though behind a proxy with auth (and some blocked stuff). Since the proxy auth isn't RFC conform it seems, using the internet connection on the phone doesn't work with most programs (i.e. weather updates), some programs even don't have a proxy option (and the one from "connections" doesn't work either). That's why I want the phone to connect itself by UMTS, while I still can remotecontrol it with PocketController. As everybody already said, it should be possible.
You can use PDAnet ,download trial from here
http://software.palminfocenter.com/product.asp?id=4237
this will allow you to use the internet whilst connected to the pc, but this will also mean the pc can also use the internet of the phone, i am not sure if this is exactly what you want, as you dont indicate the reason why you want to be able to connect to the net on the device. Anyway using PDAnet, you will still be able to sync,browse and use the device as you normally would, as well as access the internet on the PPC and PC.
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mh, the PC shouldn't use the phone as modem, that would violate the security restrictions here badly. I'll try PDAnet and see if I can restrict that.
Edit: PDANet also can't connect. could it be possible, that it is some Windows policy on the Desktop preventing that?

Can you turn Data Connection off in CommManager on the PDA?

desolateone said:
Can you turn Data Connection off in CommManager on the PDA?
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hm, not really....

I am interested in this as well.
I have the Titan (Sprint Mogul) and would like to be able to connect it to my work computer VIA USB and be able to charge the phone and control it via MyMobiler but the phone should use its EVDO cellular connection for the internet. Instead it appears to use the internet that my work computer has which blocks certain sites and ports for IMAP and POP.
I would like the phone to be able to check gmail (via IMAP) as well as go to any website I would like.

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Is there a way to connect Activesync via WiFi 802.11b ?

I have an O2 XDAIIi with 802.11b wi-fi connectivity and a wireless home network. I can connect my XDAIIi to my network access point router very reliably and also my home PC laptop to the router but I do not know how to get my XDAIIi and PC to connect to each other via the router. I would ideally like to use wi-fi rather than bluetooth to connect Activesync for synchronisation. Has anyone managed to do this?
Also, how is it possible to synchronise your XDAIIi (or any other pocket PC) with your home PC remotely, e.g. from a wi-fi hotspot?
I've done this, works great, but an issue is, I understand, that ActiveSync 4 and beyond are going to remove wifi syncing. Eeek.
But, for now, from memory, I think you just set ActiveSync to "get connected" over ethernet I think (the screen where you choose USB, Serial etc). I don't think you do anything special on the PPC, although I might be mistaken. You do have to manually start activesync and choose sync though on PPC.
I'll have to check my settings when I get home.
Re syncing over public wifi: the reason AS 4 removes wifi syncing is because there's no security in it. So public syncing, although techinically feasible AFAIK, might not be safe. But, caveat emptor.
Sorry for being vague, someone infront of a router can probably tell you more, this is just to say it can be done!
V
Thanks for your reply. It's really good news to know it can be done. It would be really helpful to know a bit more about your settings when you get home. In particular, do you need to allow your home PC files to be shared/visible? Also, when I open Activesync on my PPC and click Tools there is only the option to connect via IR, nothing else, even when I have a Bluetooth or WiFi connection active?
RafilK said:
Thanks for your reply. It's really good news to know it can be done. It would be really helpful to know a bit more about your settings when you get home. In particular, do you need to allow your home PC files to be shared/visible? Also, when I open Activesync on my PPC and click Tools there is only the option to connect via IR, nothing else, even when I have a Bluetooth or WiFi connection active?
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I wrote a dutch utility how to connect Active Sync through Wifi.
I hope you understand it.
You need ActiveSync 3.8.
And it's important that you create a partnership between the device and your PC through USB.
http://www.leukbellen.nl/activesync/
Good luck.
Yep, listen to adewidt.. connect up normally through USB and activesync as normal.
Then, stick in your wifi card and ensure you can browse the net through PPC. Sort this out first.
Then, check activesync on pc is able to use "ethernet" on the "get connected" settings page.
Once that's happening, I think you just load up activesync on PPC and choose sync (where it says "sync" about 1/3 of the way down the screen on the left, click that). I think it then tries to sync over the network, ie wifi. Activesync on your PC should detect this and get to work.
You don't need to be sharing any files etc, and is not advisable on publically accessible networks like wifi. Also, ensure your firewall is correctly configured. I don't think you need to set anything in partcular for AS if you can already USB sync, but ensure you're using a firewall always when wifi-ing.
V
Thanks chaps. Yes I did just about manage to understand the dutch instructions and it all works fine. Very happy :-D

Stumped HoFo, Challenge for xda-dev: Can I use GPRS/EDGE while ActiveSync Connected?

I want to use GPRS/EDGE while connected to ActiveSync, instead of my computers connection.
Is this possible?
My work proxy blocks IM & other sites (web-based e-mail). My preference would be to use some remote control software (Pocket Controller Pro, for instance) to control my Wizard via ActiveSync, and use my computer's keyboard (!!!), but over GPRS/EDGE.
Set your ActiveSync connection as "Work" and your net connection as "Internet" and it should connect to GPRS/EDGE even when you are on ActiveSync. At least it does on my T-Mobile MDA with the stock 2.26 ROM.
This is not working for me, on my stock T-Mo (US) 2.26 ROM.
I go into ActiveSyn 4.2, File, "This Computer is Connected to" and I select "Work"
When I try to access anything (IE to a page I haven't been to before, start MSN Messenger, etc.) it says I can't access.
As soon as I unplug the USB and refresh/SignIn, GPRS starts up and I'm good to go.
Is there no way to use GPRS while connected to ActiveSync?
In mine if i connect with agile using gprs and then i plug to pc agile stays connected to gprs...but if i start agile when connected to the pc it uses the pc connection...maybe u can try to connect ur im before connecting to the pc...but for pocket explorer i dont know as it dont maintain any kind of persistent connection...
now i know this works with wifi.. but dont know about edge..
http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/airfix/airfix.html
**EDIT**
i did install it, i connected via edge, then ran the program, then placed it in my cradle and edge stayed connected while activesync sync'd... since i am at work however i was unable to vft if i was able to browse via edge.. but their website does say something about needing to set up static ip's (when referring to wifi) i know thats not possible with edge, but wonder if i can do it with activesync... hmmmmm
the way it works for me..
its kind of crude, but works for me.
i connect my wiz via activesync and after its connected use remote display to work with it on the main computer screen.
i use process explorer to kill rapimgr.exe, wcescomm.exe and wcesmgr.exe. the remote display still is connected and takes my input from the main computer. now i can use gprs to go out on the net. in order to re-sync i start activesync on the pc again.
hope this helps,
sl
lafloer said:
its kind of crude, but works for me.
i connect my wiz via activesync and after its connected use remote display to work with it on the main computer screen.
i use process explorer to kill rapimgr.exe, wcescomm.exe and wcesmgr.exe. the remote display still is connected and takes my input from the main computer. now i can use gprs to go out on the net. in order to re-sync i start activesync on the pc again.
hope this helps,
sl
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Ummm...... all I can say is WOW!
I was just about to type up a message saying the "Login to Agile then ActiveSync, Agil should retain GPRS" thing did NOT work for me....
THANK YOU! this is awesome!

Question in internet connection

Hi,
This might be a silly question, but I was just wondering if it is possible to use the internet connection on a PC if the hermes was connected to it via USB?
I dont have wifi and my PC connects directly to the internet, is there anyway the Hermes can access this connection?
J'
Right now I am using my ATT8525 as my modem.
It took me a long time to get it but I'm still not sure how I excatly what settings I did.
One thing is ""Internet Sharing"
Find that and setup for USB and then connect. Your computer might see the connection and go from there.
Wish I could help more...
It should work automatically when your Tytn is connected via ActiveSync and your desktop computer has internet. No further configuration should be necessary on default. Just open the Tytn's IE and try it out ...
Oh my bad... I got the question backwards

Internet on phone via active sync connection

Hi guys!
with windows and active sync usb connection i can use the internet on my phone via this connection.
i want the same without active sync and windows. i mean i want the same scenario with ubuntu and the synce connector.
if i plug my phone on the usb port under ubuntu und choose active sync connection on my phone i got a new iface in my ubuntu (eth2 169.254.2.2)
looks like a normal active sync connection.
but how can i use the ubuntu pc as a gateway for my phone?
Internet sharing
Go to start Internet Sharing Pc connection as USB, select network conection at the bottoum left connect .. thats all just open IE browse the sites
Hi,tnx 4 reply.
but i think this is the completely wrong way.
if i use your description my mobile is the gateway and i can surf the internet with the pc that is connected via usb.
i need the other way.
if i go to inet conn. sharing as you describe. i can select usb and below my provider (in my case E-Plus Internet).
if i click connect, the phone is bringing up 3G internet. that is not what i want.
i want to use the network connection on my pc to use with my phone.
when phone is connected to activesync click start don't click X on activesync as you want to keep that running
choose
settings->connections->connections->advanced->select network
choose my network or what ever it's called on your device
rather then my isp or what ever it's called on your device
then now your phone will use the same network connection the pc use
unless you block it by firewall or otherwise block it on the pc side
[solved] Internet on phone via active sync connection
Hi guys i thougt i had remarked that i want to use it with linux.
the trick is....
you have to install a part of the synce tools.
u need synce-sync-engine
and synce-tray-icon to make a partnership between the pc and the phone.
thats all
Little more details, please:
instinctless said:
Hi guys i thougt i had remarked that i want to use it with linux.
the trick is....
you have to install a part of the synce tools.
u need synce-sync-engine
and synce-tray-icon to make a partnership between the pc and the phone.
thats all
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More details dude please....

How to connect WM 6.5 device to WinXP via Ad Hoc to Internet

Hello All,
Here is my problem and I need help.
Situation:
Laptop WinXp is connected to Internet via cable modem.
Now I want to make access to Internet via Wi-Fi from laptop for WM 6.5 device.
I manage to connect and browse Internet with other laptop via laptop connected to cable modem –internet. WM device is showing connected to SSID but Internet doesn’t work.
Internet access via ActiveSync and USB cable is working perfectly but via Wi-Fi doesn’t
After many hours browsing various forums I couldn’t find any good working solution.
Any help is highly appreciated.
Regards and Thank you.
zoran974
ACER S200
Please find attached.
How can I at least connect WM6.5 using Laptop's Internet?
I have WM6.5 device (HD2) with no data plan. At home I can use wifi to connect to internet. However at work, I have ActiveSync 4.5 on laptop but It does not connect to Internet. I read somewhere that using ActiveSync WM device can use laptops internet, but I could not get it to work. Can anyone tell me how??
Intermittently with some setting change I was able to get internet only via Internet Explorer in HD2, and at one other time only in Opera, but never from any other Apps (like GoogleMaps, HD2 sense's Weather, etc). It could be when I tried InternetSharing on my laptop's WinXP's network connection to wireless Network or to LAN2 (LAN to Wireless or LAN to LAN2. LAN2 is automatically showing when my device is connected via ActiveSync). However I am back to zero now.
I wonder it has anything to do with Company's Firewall policies. On my laptop Firewall is turned off. But then I was not able to get this to work at home either.
I have the following settings on ActiveSync's "Connection Settings":
All six items checked.
3rd Item dropdown box has COM3 or DMA (could not figure out any difference).
4th item dropdown has Automatic or Work Network.
connected via USB cable.
Let me know what is it that I am missing??
samalam said:
I have WM6.5 device (HD2) with no data plan. At home I can use wifi to connect to internet. However at work, I have ActiveSync 4.5 on laptop but It does not connect to Internet. I read somewhere that using ActiveSync WM device can use laptops internet, but I could not get it to work. Can anyone tell me how??
Intermittently with some setting change I was able to get internet only via Internet Explorer in HD2, and at one other time only in Opera, but never from any other Apps (like GoogleMaps, HD2 sense's Weather, etc). It could be when I tried InternetSharing on my laptop's WinXP's network connection to wireless Network or to LAN2 (LAN to Wireless or LAN to LAN2. LAN2 is automatically showing when my device is connected via ActiveSync). However I am back to zero now.
I wonder it has anything to do with Company's Firewall policies. On my laptop Firewall is turned off. But then I was not able to get this to work at home either.
I have the following settings on ActiveSync's "Connection Settings":
All six items checked.
3rd Item dropdown box has COM3 or DMA (could not figure out any difference).
4th item dropdown has Automatic or Work Network.
connected via USB cable.
Let me know what is it that I am missing??
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Try changing the 4th item dropdown to "The Internet"
Try unchecking the "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"
The 3rd item dropdown doesn't matter if you connect via USB.
Can someone figure out how to sync via WiFi?
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patrick_spd4u said:
Try changing the 4th item dropdown to "The Internet"
Try unchecking the "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"
The 3rd item dropdown doesn't matter if you connect via USB.
Can someone figure out how to sync via WiFi?
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I tried and that did not work. Is there any body who got this working, if not in company settings, what about in home settings??

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