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Hello!
I want to upgrade my MDA. So I wanted to check out the BootLoader of my devcie. When I press the on/off button and hold it while pressing the left reset, the screen stays empty and nothing happens. If I let the power button go, then it performs a normal boot.
Can anyone help me?
I dont whant to make an 'EXE'-Upgrade...
Never tried it myself, but there is a tool from the Developers here to fix the bootloader.
http://www.xda-developers.com/XDAtools/
Seach a little bit here around....
HTH
Stefan
If indeed there is no bootloader I would suggest you definitely get that fixed before attempting any rom upgrade otherwise you could end up with a paperweight rather than a pda/phone.
This sentence with the 'paperweight' is written many times here! :lol:
But no risk, no fun... or?
I will try to fix the bootloader and I will write here again about the success...
Thank you for the answers,
cadkiwi
I just used the XDA-Tools to restore my bootloader.
I never killed it, but it wasn't there!
So I choose to fix it. It worked! Great Job!
I had a SD-Card prblem till now. Everytime I inserted a card my device makes a reset. Some research found that one of the pins in the slot were bended. I opened the MDA and fixed the Pin.
Tomorrow I will check if sd cards are working now!
If yes, then I will move to a newer ROM and from 2002 to 2003!
Thank U guys!
See ya...
cadkiwi
After (I think) successfully upgrading to WM6, I've had a few problems...
1) I can't seem to soft reset anymore (holding down Power at the top + the reset button)...it seems the only way I can now reset my unit is by physically removing the battery...
2) I can't access the bootloader SERIAL mode...I can access the options for the kernel hive and formatting storage, but no success being able to get into USB mode to reflash my unit
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated - I only bought this phone on Friday
1. This was hard reset in WM2003 - for soft reset just press the reset button
2. You need to press and hold power+reset+record(WMP) buttons at the same time
I suggest you read WIKI first before asking questions which are answered a million times
Thank you for the prompt reply.
I can understand your frustration with many people constantly asking these questions, but please don't make me feel like an idiot when I've actually read the Wiki and tried Googling the problem prior to posting.
To clarify, I know *how* to access the SERIAL option (I had to do it to upgrade from 2003 to WM6 to begin with). My point is that holding Reset+Power+Record doesn't work anymore. It just continues the boot process and goes straight to the Windows Mobile splash screen. The reset button, in and of itself, does nothing at all. I've tried everything from just tapping it a few times to pressing and holding it for upwards of 30 seconds...but it doesn't seem to do anything for me.
Try to hold and press power+record+cam buttons then press reset while holding those buttons.
Yeah, it does nothing...I have a feeling that the actual reset button is no longer working on the unit...not sure if that's to do with the upgrade to WM6, or if it's a hardware problem and just happens to be coincidence :-/
don't take xplode's advise wrongly. it's just that reading AND understanding the WIKI is important especially for beginners like yourself.
if you think you've successfully upgraded to WM6, it's probably because of the "Congratulations" message that was displayed... well, you're almost there, though not quite.
try to fully understand the no/yes/yes instruction in the WIKI... the reset+power+record combination is NOT what you should be doing. it has been replaced by another... here's the thread that could guide you... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327978&highlight=kitl
and here's the pertinent wiki page...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4
good luck and welcome to the BA community.
Anyway if this that you try to explain is that the hardware buttons no longer work, you can try the MTTY method, if you have read the wiki you already know what exactly to do
Thanks raymonds, I will try not to, but I just don't want people thinking I'm yet another new member that doesn't read anything before posting, because I know how much I hate that too...I tried reading up on my problems for 4 hours last night before deciding to post because I couldn't find anything else to help.
I have successfully upgraded to WM6 and went through the no/yes/yes steps - the issue is that I want to go back to WM2003 or WM5...they seemed far less problematic for my phone for some reason..one problem I'm facing now is that my BA, pure and simple, no longer recognizes that I have a cellular carrier at all, making it essentially useless as a phone. When I try to go into SIM Manager, it hangs for a while, then goes into the screen saying that only emergency calls can be made...but when I try to put in my PIN, it says "Unknown SIM error", though the SIM works fine in my other phone...
I'm trying to use the Power/Reset/Record to either try reflashing in the hopes that'll resolve my issues, or downgrade...either way, it's not allowing me to do so, and I obviously can't do this while the phone is booted into WM6. It just seems like the reset button is no longer working, since neither combination that uses it (Power+Reset or Power+Camera+Reset) works anymore.
try to downgrade with MAUpgradeUT_NOID.exe, and then reupgrade, another thing you can do is to reflash the radio rom. The MTTY method resets bootloader settings which may be the solution to your problem.
MTTY under Windows XP is explained HERE
xplode, mtty requires one to do the power+reset+record combination, which he currently cannot do.
is this a second-hand unit?
Hm, there was another way to put your device into bootloader mode but i have never tryed it, in most of the WM2003 upgrades there was EnterBL.exe, and when you copy it to the device and execute it the device goes to bootloader mode...
but it also creates problems - read here
Also i had problems in the past with the latest version of MTTY (1.45) and used previous one 1.01 which worked like a charm
Sweet - thanks xplode and raymonds for your time.
Unfortunately I can't try these as I am at work right now, but I do appreciate the suggestions and will try them as soon as I get home.
If I can't get it to work, oh well - off to the service depot and a (probably) expensive lesson learned.
Please keep us updated, about your issue
Thanks guys...
So, I'm taking it that the radio stack is now corrupt, since it's no longer even showing a version number on my BA. I tried the methods xplode suggested - when I enter the unit into KITL mode, I take it I'm supposed to use USB Active as the transport method, since MTTY won't recognize a device otherwise, and my phone just boots into Windows from that point.
When I try to run MTTY though, all it does is display "kITLª" over and over again...I'm not sure if that's normal, or even how to enter a prompt of some kind...
I'm starting to wonder if maybe I should just take it to the depot, pay the $75 I was quoted, and learn my lesson... :-/
Any other suggestions, or am I just totally doing what you suggested wrong?
You do not need to enter KITL because this is used to debug your WM build using Platform builder
Just try to put your device to botloader mode and then use MTTY to instruct the bootloader what to do, or just reflash radio and then new rom
ok so i hit the side ok key and the other side button...put the stylus in and nothing but a soft reset....i prob shouldnt be trying to use a custom rom if i cant even get into bootloader mode huh lol?
Did you HOLD the OK and PWR buttons while using the stylus to hit the reset button? You were suppposed to...
i tried it with the power button then the side ok button and stylus..no luck
then i tried power...ok softkey....stylus.....no luck
im not too bright so bear with me lol
plus im running vista so this may not be the safest thing for me to do
TNT.1921 Series (Official/Professional) OS 5.2.1921 the newest OS is the rom i really wanna use for my titan but i dont wanna brick it or ill be doneeee
You press and hold the side OK button FIRST (it's nearest the jog wheel), keep holding it, and press the PWR button, keep holding BOTH of them and reset with the stylus...if that doesn't work, you have defective hardware
grrr just soft resets and brings up the splash screen...
i just updated my rom with the new htc release could that be causing the problem?
Find SoftSPL here in the forum. Download that and copy it to your PDA, then run it on your Hermes - it will switch your phone to bootloader mode!
I do not think that you have faulty hardware, I think you're not doing it correctly!
Hold OK + Power at the same time, keep holding those to buttons when soft-resetting your device even after you release the soft reset button ... go on keep holding those buttons until your device switches to the 3-colored screen!
If you fail and your device starts normally just keep holding the buttons and stick your stylus in the RESET whole again! Do it until you succeed! It is not that hard!
BTW: Why are you trying to set your device in bootloader mode? If your device is not yet CID / SIM unlocked you can flash only ROMs from your current provider! If it is already CID unlocked then you still can proceed flashing even without switching to bootloader mode - the ROM UPGRADE UTILITY will switch your phone to bootloader mode automatically anyway!
lol i have no clue im just trying to follow the directions so i dont brick my mogul...so your saying i can just run this and itll install on my mogul without any bricking going on?
jayweezie21 said:
lol i have no clue im just trying to follow the directions so i dont brick my mogul...so your saying i can just run this and itll install on my mogul without any bricking going on?
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If you follow the instructions exactly step-by-step it is unlikely that you brick your device! However, I am not going to motivate you to flash your device and I also will not take over responsibility in case you do! There is always a chance that something goes wrong, such as a computer crash in the middle of flashing and so on ...
The question is: Do you need to flash your device?
What ROM are you running now? What do you expect from flashing your device? What ROM are you going to flash? (This questions are important because if you only upgrade your network providers ROM then you do not need to SoftSPL nor HardSPL your device. In case you want to flash the ROM image of another network provider or custom build ROM then SoftSPL / HardSPL is required!)
So, you should answer yourself this questions first because this will guide you in the right direction ... !
well to tell you the truth i like to make changes. ive had all the treos from 600 up to present...never had an htc device. but i like change. and id like to be able to use these custom roms. im pretty familiar with pda related techs but when it comes to this im clueless. maybe im not a htc person im really just waiting till the new treo comes out to get rid of my mogul but if it showed me some power id keep it.
i just updated to the new htc stock rom but i have nothing else..and for some reason i cant get into bootloader mode. i d/led the rom i want should i just install it and see whhat happens?
i have a extra phone to use but i dont wanna brick my moguk
sorry about the typing im hella tipsy watchin the cowboys game!
thanks for all the help though!
Oh, NOW he tells us he is using a Mogul. DUH! This is the HERMES section bro. On the Mogul I believe you just hit power, camera and the reset button at the same time and you'll get to the 3 color bootloader screen. I wouldn't try to flash a HERMES rom or Bootloader on a Mogul young man...
lol crazy! could you point me in the right area then? i thought the mogul was a.k.a hermes aka tytan? they look the same thats why i figured they were.
ha i shouldve scrolled down the main page a bit more....meet me over there and help me out =)
Tytn = Hermes, Titan = Mogul, not the same unit, not the same hardware, not the same rom, not the same bootloader, not the same unlocking procedure...
i used imcokemans unlocker (which i have done before) and blee0125's kitchen and really screwed up somewhere!
i cant get it past the "htc smart mobility" screen. it comes up, tells me the driver and radio versions, then those disappear like they are supposed to and...nothing else.
any suggestions would be great, plz im dying here!
i have tried hard and soft resetting and...nothing!
THANKS.
EDIT: just for those coming to this ancient and recently revived thread, this (my) problem has been solved. altho there are other people now with similar problems
Have you tried re-flashing?
jim256 said:
i used imcokemans unlocker (which i have done before) and blee0125's kitchen and really screwed up somewhere!
i cant get it past the "htc smart mobility" screen!! it comes up, tells me the driver and radio versions, then those disappear like they are supposed to and...nothing else.
can anybody help me???? PLZ im dying here!
i have tried hard and soft resetting and...nothing!
THANKS.
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Do a camera power reset and try again.
i tried that and it didnt do anything at all. isnt that just where you hold the end key and the side camera key and stick the stylus into the hole?
if so, it have any different effect than the standard soft reset
AraqirG said:
Have you tried re-flashing?
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and i did try...sort of. im not sure how to seeing as how i can never make it past the boot screen, and therefore cannot connect it to activesync.
THANKS.
jim256 said:
and i did try...sort of. im not sure how to seeing as how i can never make it past the boot screen, and therefore cannot connect it to activesync.
THANKS.
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Hold down the power button and the camera button at the same time until the tri colored bootloader comes up. If that works, try flashing the stock rom for your carrier.
If that doesn't work try the same steps with the memory card removed.
If that doesn't work try to do a hard reset and see if that will take you to the bootloader.
Also, what are the numbers in on the bootloader...are you sure your device is unlocked? I believe it should say... SPL-00.40.coke... on the 2nd line if your unlocked.
You shouldn't need to connect to activesync to reboot. After you run ImCokeMan's unlocker you should be unlocked until you run it again.
As I said in the last post, all you have to do to get to the boot loader is hold down the power and camera buttons at the same time. This will put the phone into the boot loader and you should be able to flash back to the stock rom and start over.
It kind of sounds like you relocked the phone and then tried to boot a custom rom.
sorry i wasnt saying i needed to connect to activesync to reboot, i was saying i needed to connect to activesync to flash, and it wouldnt boot up so i couldnt get to activesync.
and i did to imcokemans unlocker, and everything went fine. when i was setting up the device (ie. setting password, time zone, calibration, etc...) i just decided that i didnt need to finish that as i was intending on flashing a custom rom anyway, and so any settings i put up the time to set would be erased.
having said that, i went ahead and starting flashing a custom rom right from the wm welcome screen that you get on a first boot.
thanks a LOT for your help, promptness, and attention
So are you back up and running?
well, now i am. i just took a 30 min drive down to the sprint store and got a replacement :S
thanks a lot for your help though, im scared i may really need to refer back to this thread later. but if i do, at least i know i should be able to fix it!
thanks.
well, i just did it again. i must be doing something wrong in the cooking of my ROMs...about to try out your solution..hope it works!!
wish me luck :S :S :S :S
well i was able to re-flash, but, unfortunately, it is stuck in the same "htc smart mobility" screen again. i think i have been able to narrow it down to the oemizer app. i must be doing something wrong in there.
oemizer http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=100746&referrerid=10115
ill keep cooking and trying tonight until i find what it is the problem is i guess, thx for your help guys. especially you 360discgolf.
well, after cooking and flashing too many times to remember this late, all i can do is ask for help when you guys wake up and check this thread.
in the last couple of builds i havent been doing anything with oemizer at all and it still hasnt been working, and i dont think i am doing anything extra in buildos that i havent done before in successful ROM images...it seems sort of erratic.
any suggestions/hints/comments would be great, thanks a lot.
you can't just hold the two buttons and press the reset. You have to hold the two buttons at the same time, then while holding them, use the stylus to hold the reset until it restarts. If you just tap the reset button while hold, it doesn't work.
360discgolf said:
You shouldn't need to connect to activesync to reboot. After you run ImCokeMan's unlocker you should be unlocked until you run it again.
As I said in the last post, all you have to do to get to the boot loader is hold down the power and camera buttons at the same time. This will put the phone into the boot loader and you should be able to flash back to the stock rom and start over.
It kind of sounds like you relocked the phone and then tried to boot a custom rom.
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i'm having a similar problem. my attempt at flashing didn't go over that well and now when I turn off the device, I can't turn it on again unless I do a soft reset. I tried doing the power/camera thing but all it does is ask "are you sure, yada yada" and then the devices turns off. you were talking about a stock rom? where would I get one and how would I re-flash the rom (assuming that's the problem in the first place.).
Thanks!
vkolas said:
i'm having a similar problem. my attempt at flashing didn't go over that well and now when I turn off the device, I can't turn it on again unless I do a soft reset. I tried doing the power/camera thing but all it does is ask "are you sure, yada yada" and then the devices turns off. you were talking about a stock rom? where would I get one and how would I re-flash the rom (assuming that's the problem in the first place.).
Thanks!
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what carrier are you?
EDIT: also:
1) what os version are you running? (build number)
2) what radio are you running?
3) what bootloader are you on? (can be accessed via holding power + camera button and poking reset hole)
4) what are the orange numbers in the very bottom right of the screen when you are booting up?
these kinds of things all need to kind of jive for the sleep function to work correctly
jim256 said:
i used imcokemans unlocker (which i have done before) ...
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If you used the imcokemans unlocker a 2nd time, I believe you re-lock your phone.
You also mentioned that you tried to flash the ROM from the Welcome Screen. That certainly won't work. You have to be at the unlocked rainbow bootloader screen which will load when you run the RUU or when you press Power-Camera-Reset. If it doesn't go into bootloader then you've probably re-locked your phone.
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If you used the imcokemans unlocker a 2nd time, I believe you re-lock your phone.
You also mentioned that you tried to flash the ROM from the Welcome Screen. That certainly won't work. You have to be at the unlocked rainbow bootloader screen which will load when you run the RUU or when you press Power-Camera-Reset. If it doesn't go into bootloader then you've probably re-locked your phone.
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haha sorry this is a problem that i had a VEERRRRY LONG time ago. have learned a lot since since then, now it is this other fella here we are trying to help him
thx tho!
I am seriously needing some light shed over here please some one i have been hunting and hunting, I even wrote a post to try to get help please help me so if any one else needs any help like this I may be able to help them also.
My phone was going through a flash when it restarted it got "Bricked" at the Windows Mobile splash screen. I want to know is there any way I can unbrick my Cingular HTC 8525 Herm100 device, via SD(micro). I have reformated my card but it still wont go to the bootloader, I have witnessed the small text at the bottom left of the screen that reads "No GSM" imediately after the phone comes on. Now either I am over reading something or missed something but if I could trouble some of the devs, admins, users, or even (not recommended, but im desperate to get working) flamers...
Please help me so that I may help others later on. Thank you
Im not a know it all....but I'll try and help.
Questions...
1) Have you tried to do a Manual load of the Boot-loader (POWER+OK+RESET)..?
Usually I HOLD the POWER+OK then hit the RESET while still holding the other two buttons, until the boot-loader loads.
2) Try taking out your Sim's card, see if the NO GSM is still there...?
I've had this problem on other phones in the past.
3) Unbricking using the SD card..? try doing a SEARCH THIS FORUM option for a
more dedicated search...
I would use a USB cord for the unbricking, as I have had better chances of undoing a brick.
Also you can used a "Motorola Razr", USB cord also with this phone for the USB options.
Well hope something works for you.
Thanks and good Luck.
Jake Howe
You also need to have installed Hard SPL V7... If you haven't then I hope you have a copy of your SHIPPED STOCK ROM as this may be th eonly thing that will fix your Hermes. If it has the "No GSM" error then its possible you will still have a brick. It generally means the radio rom is corrupted and is impossible to fix...
Thank you guys for the response I have reversed the brick of the phone a few days ago. My other question is, do anyone know how/or if it is possible to flash the phone and lock it to an "IDEN" type phone or know the Network ID Code for a Carrier called, boost mobile; a subsidiary of Sprint/Nextel.