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Should i go from my Wizard <MDA> to Wing

My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
My MDA has been a great phone, one of the best i have ever owned.
Is the wing still a standard USB to charge it and sync it?
Only change i see is faster proc, microSD instead of miniSD, and 2mp over my 1.3...
I use my phone mostly for TXT, notepad and calendar.....\
So should i upgrade?

john94si said:
My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
My MDA has been a great phone, one of the best i have ever owned.
Is the wing still a standard USB to charge it and sync it?
Only change i see is faster proc, microSD instead of miniSD, and 2mp over my 1.3...
I use my phone mostly for TXT, notepad and calendar.....\
So should i upgrade?
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its not a faster proc. it doesnt have more ram. but it operates wm6 much much better than the MDA series. I just upgraded about a month ago and I am enjoying it a lot. The only reason I upgraded was because I cracked my MDA screen on new years eve.
The wing is slimmer, but its more of a left hand user kind of phone. so the choice is really up to you
I still like the MDA better, because it has the email and ie button on the main top of the screen and it was more of a right hander using phone.

I went from an MDA to a WING ... and I LOVE it.

I would say, dont upgrade/downgrade(!) to wing. The processor is same. RAM is still the same. Yeah, the body is slimmer, but, thats it. Also, you ll have to use the ext-usb to sync and charge, unlike the MDA
In short, the answer is NO

john94si said:
My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
So should i upgrade?
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i have had my 2 MDAs for almost 2 years. Gave one to my Daughter and she loves it. Got the Wing online for $50.00 after a $50.00 rebate. Only added one line for 1 year. Ported old number over at no cost. In the offer I also got a new Blue Tooth Headset for free. Free shipping, too. Had to signup for the email package at $9.95 per month, but will cancel as soon as I get refund.
Do NOT buy Wing for $280.00 and sign up for a 2 year contract. Really, I am not trying to tell you what to do, just save you some money.
Wing seems to be a little faster when connecting to the Internet. Agree with what others wrote below. If I had to buy at $280.00 and signup for 2 years I would not get the Wing. I still use both my MDA and Wing. Pretty much the same phone IMHO.
Good Luck on whatever you do.

For those of you who said try another phone. What would you recommend? Nothing that I see is really that HOT!

Yea tmobile doesnt offer any other cool phones. I hate blackberrys.
So can i still get a wing for $50 somewhere an 1 yr?

You can always get a ATT Tilt with contract for less than that. That's way too expensive.

I was going to stay with TM becuase my girls contract is with them and few other friends so calls within tmobile are free for us to each other.
I do see sprints new everything unlimited for $99 no though..

john94si said:
Yea tmobile doesnt offer any other cool phones. I hate blackberrys.
So can i still get a wing for $50 somewhere an 1 yr?
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Yeah call that business direct number (cant find it right now---you can search for me though )
and give them promo code "Windows Mobile"
once I get some cash I'll get the Wing, or the Tilt depending on price

Ok ill try the TM business.
Where are you located b.mann? I am in orlando. What happend to my post count?
I used to have ALOT of post here and now it just shows post count 8? Did the database crash here?

john94si said:
I was going to stay with TM becuase my girls contract is with them and few other friends so calls within tmobile are free for us to each other.
I do see sprints new everything unlimited for $99 no though..
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T-Mobile has the $99.00 plan just like all the rest of the companies.

Nah, stay with the MDA
Inside, the Wing and MDA are identical: same processor, same RAM, same ROM. I'm personally considering getting an MDA even though I have a Wing(I have my reasons). I like how it has the buttons for Internet Explorer and the messaging client above the screen as well as the control for the wireless radio on the left side of the phone. The only upgrades are the fact that the Wing runs Windows Mobile 6 and has a 2 MP camera.

The wing is cool, but I miss the LED flash on the MDA's camera. I used to use it as a little flashlight... MAN that thing came in handy!

john94si said:
Ok ill try the TM business.
Where are you located b.mann? I am in orlando. What happend to my post count?
I used to have ALOT of post here and now it just shows post count 8? Did the database crash here?
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St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people

well... the wing looks cooler...

b.mann said:
St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people
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Another Florida resident, huh? NY transplant in Palm Coast here.

The only reason I went from my MDA to a Wing was because the last time my MDA crapped out, they replaced it with a damn Dash. Talk about a downgrade. I lost ALL of the functionality that I had with my MDA such as the touch screen and general overall better feel of the keyboard (for my large hands). So I bit the bullet and went for a new 2 yr contract and a $300 upgrade charge even after a lot of pissing and moaning about how ridiculous it was to replace an MDA with a stupid Dash. Not hating on the Dash cause I'm sure there are plenty of people who like it, I'm just not one of them.
Anyway, to the point of my post. It took me a little while to get used to how the phone now opens on the opposite side than the MDA did. The keyboard has a much better feel to it than the MDA did, other than the location of the two "soft keys" when you have the keyboard open. I have had a few accidental sent messages or menu opens when trying to hit the I or O button or the R or T button. I like the more rubberized feel of the casing. And, since my favorite color is blue, I like the color
Overall I've been pleased with it. I guess I could have spent $100 more and gotten an iPhone, but AT&T can bite me for how much they want to charge for data packages and service. Besides the fact that the iPhone needs a slider and a QWERTY keyboard!

MDA for Wing
Here is another vote...
YES...
I have my old MDA and just got the Wing.
Much Much Much nicer.
and b.mann beat me to the best part..
Call t-mobile and use the
"Windows Mobile" and get it for 50.00
Can't beat that ...

b.mann said:
St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people
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I'll be at UCF this semester, too!

Bad News! = (

My Phone got stolen today = ( this sucks when you can go out to the beach and have a good time with your friends without worrying about something getting taken out of your car well i loved my phone some much and it was my life i had to much stuff on that thing it was not even funny. Also AT&T cant do **** about it thats what pisses me off cuz i wanted to put insurance on it but they said i cant so yea thats how my day went today so right now i am trying to save up to get a new one but idk cuz i got my money stolen to but wish me luck and i hope everyone here has a great time Upgrading and Flash there phones.
->LlamaLord<-
P.S Hold On To Your Phone With Your Life!

Look on eBay or local listings.
Im in Shanghai and had my phone stolen from my bag (now im paranoid about where I put my phone).
I bought another hermes, used, with box and all, for 225$, that was over 6 months ago.

Bugga, my condolences....
Agree with alkizmo about ebay, in oz the jasjam seems to go for about $250aud which is better than the $900 or "sorry, we don't stock that anymore, wanna kaiser instead for $1400?".
Cheers...

ultramag69 said:
Bugga, my condolences....
Agree with alkizmo about ebay, in oz the jasjam seems to go for about $250aud which is better than the $900 or "sorry, we don't stock that anymore, wanna kaiser instead for $1400?".
Cheers...
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would this be better to get? https://store.xda-developers.com/xp...c=20&jssCart=074806fcb9e60cfd4ea0c4a1293180d6

Bummer... $175 fro the Tilt is not a bad deal. Good Luck!

LlamaLord said:
My Phone got stolen today = ( this sucks when you can go out to the beach and have a good time with your friends without worrying about something getting taken out of your car well i loved my phone some much and it was my life i had to much stuff on that thing it was not even funny. Also AT&T cant do **** about it thats what pisses me off cuz i wanted to put insurance on it but they said i cant so yea thats how my day went today so right now i am trying to save up to get a new one but idk cuz i got my money stolen to but wish me luck and i hope everyone here has a great time Upgrading and Flash there phones.
->LlamaLord<-
P.S Hold On To Your Phone With Your Life!
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Dude that suck, i know how you feel i got my PDA stolen 2 years ago, it's not a good feeling. Hope you find it.

LlamaLord said:
would this be better to get? https://store.xda-developers.com/xp...c=20&jssCart=074806fcb9e60cfd4ea0c4a1293180d6
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If i were you i would wait to buy a new phone since Touch Pro, Xperia and Diamond have officially been anounced, and also the new iphone with 3G and GPS is only $199!!!

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If i were you i would wait to buy a new phone since Touch Pro, Xperia and Diamond have officially been anounced, and also the new iphone with 3G and GPS is only $199!!!
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iphone sux & is a ripoff fad...recent artical math:
Old iPhone: $399 (for 8GB of storage), plus $60 per month for 450 voice minutes and unlimited data. Two-year total (since you'll be signing a two-year deal for either handset): $1,839.
New iPhone: $199 (for 8GB of storage), plus $70 per month for a basic voice plan (presumably the same 450 minutes) and unlimited data. Two-year total: $1,879. http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/94465

$175 for a Tilt!!!!!! See, Australia is the Arse end of the world and they keep serving us crap....
Wouldn't want the Tilt though, Love my Hermes....

and its tough love for your hermes

Sorry to hear that man. I was out Sat night this past weekend and my phone just completely stopped booting. Took it in, tested the battery and all, but it was dead. Couldn't even get to a bootloader. I was out of the warranty, and still had 7 months left on the contract so I thought I was screwed, but AT&T let me just renew the contract and get a new phone. Wasn't dying to get a Tilt, but it's better than being stuck with a crap clamshell phone for 7 months....best of luck! If it's any consolation, I heard you can get software for the Kaiser phone that will send you a text with the GPS location of the phone if a different SIM card is inserted. God forbid the phone gets stolen, but imagine the joy when you get to call the cops with the coordinates of your phone (hopefully in the pocket of the thief).

galaxys said:
iphone sux & is a ripoff fad...recent artical math:
Old iPhone: $399 (for 8GB of storage), plus $60 per month for 450 voice minutes and unlimited data. Two-year total (since you'll be signing a two-year deal for either handset): $1,839.
New iPhone: $199 (for 8GB of storage), plus $70 per month for a basic voice plan (presumably the same 450 minutes) and unlimited data. Two-year total: $1,879. http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/94465
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I agree the iPhone sux, but Xperia, Diamond and Touch Pro are still in the game

time to get yourself a new tilt

Good News!
Alright well i had to buy a new phone so i won a 8525 on Ebay for $210$ not bad and it comes with some good stuff also. i cant wait to be back on this site and text out all the roms again! i miss it lol but thats for the help guys!

hmm, lordy boy you shudda saved the cash for a raph when they come out!

mrvanx said:
hmm, lordy boy you shudda saved the cash for a raph when they come out!
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Yea but i need a phone now and i loved my hermes!

Girlfriend's Pantech Duo (how can I turn off 3g???)

10/07/08 10:27PM
really all that's important now is that I can disable 3G on her phone, and I just cant figure out how. Is there a simple registry edit or a smartphone comm manager around? I tried a few comm managers but they didnt really disable it, I just want it off so it always uses edge
It was time she got an upgrade, so I had her get the burgundy colored Pantech Duo. So as I've heard there is no Roms for this phone yet, so what should I do to her phone? where would i find some compatible homescreens? perhaps the Vox (wings) homescreens would be compatible? I'm not sure yet what I can do with the phone, Im gonna put HTC Home on it if that works.

o man im pissed to find out it doesnt have wifi!
here I was excited she can finally have internet in her room.
makes her and I even more mad that her sister's BlackJack II has wifi.
damn...no secret wifi chip inside the pantech that we didnt know about?

See if you can get your hands on a MicroSD wifi card... They make them but I don't think they're on the market, not sure... But the Duo supports it. Also, there's something called HomeScreenBuilder (use google to find it), it's free and very customizable for her homescreen in WM6. I just sold my Duo recently, but here are a few other programs to check out...
DuoSTT (Answer calls by sliding phone open, hang up by sliding closed)
SmartToolKit (Better start menu, task manager, cleaner look)
TCPMP and there's a flash plugin for IE to play youtube videos, search the att forums it's posted under pantech by my username
Opera Mobile browser, if you download the trial I can get you a serial # (Just go to "register opera" and PM me your device ID)

hey thanks! i didnt know they had a wireless microSD card.
Now I just need to wait till it's avaible somewhere, I hope the price isnt too bad..
I'll put some of these programs you've mentioned on, as well as HTC Home. Is there a customizer for it like there is for pocket pc? or a way to change which icons appear.

I bought this phone for my sister. I think its crippled a lil without Wifi, but she doesnt care about anything but the cool red color and 2 keyboards... *rolleyes*
But to the point, if you are looking for other software, I would recomment using Conduits Pocket Player if you/she would like some music on it. Also, Newegg is selling 4 gig microSD cards (SanDisk) for 14.99. Worth looking into, wish you luck.

There is a 6.1 windows rom upgrade beta rom out for this phone. I have had this phone for a few weeks and am liking it from my 3125 that died. This was a warrenty replacment for me. Figured I could use it for a year and then when my contract is up look around.

cp_kirkley said:
I bought this phone for my sister. I think its crippled a lil without Wifi, but she doesnt care about anything but the cool red color and 2 keyboards... *rolleyes*
But to the point, if you are looking for other software, I would recomment using Conduits Pocket Player if you/she would like some music on it. Also, Newegg is selling 4 gig microSD cards (SanDisk) for 14.99. Worth looking into, wish you luck.
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$14.99?? talk about a good deal! now only if they could make that WITH the wifi.
well at one point she too wouldnt have used wifi, but when i went over to her house and connected to the wifi at her house with my Tilt from "ANYWHERE INSIDE THE HOUSE **OMG**" now she really wanted it, i got her hopes up to cause i assumed every windows mobile phone had wifi, should make sense shouldnt it? well i guess not lol. she doesnt have computer in her room and the next best thing is if she could get on msn and look at her myspace from her phone in her room, lol.
As far as a media player, I'll probably just have her use tcpmp, being it's the best for music, although not the prettiest, maybe Coreplayer? but I've tried coreplayer and i wasnt able to add onto my playlist, only load a series of files at a time.

Will the Duo work with a 4gig card? I heard it will not read any higher then 2 gigs.

mikeeey said:
her sister's BlackJack II has wifi
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WTF? Since when did the BlackJack II have wi-fi!?!?!?!

Kraize92 said:
WTF? Since when did the BlackJack II have wi-fi!?!?!?!
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does it not have it?
lol there I go assuming things again...
Am I really that out of the loop? when did HTC stop using wifi in their new devices?
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you know what also pisses me off, her call quality is horrible, can barely hear what the person is saying, sounds like she has a blown speaker, but from reviews I've been reading this is really what it sounds like.
and what has pissed me of since the very beginning, was I didn't want her to get this phone originally, I wanted her to get the nokia N75 (she would like it better) but it has been discontinued now.. and there are not any other s60 devices right now.

veener79 said:
Will the Duo work with a 4gig card? I heard it will not read any higher then 2 gigs.
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I put my 6gb SDHC card in and the card icon showed at the top, but I was not able to explore the card, so besides that it didnt show up anywhere.
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well, because there is no Wifi, horrible camera, and horrible sound quality, i would not recomend this phone. However it does have a nice Xscale 416mhz processor. I tried some games in Finalburn and they ran very nicely!
for a smartphone I would get a nokia phone, but for a touchscreen phone I would get a windows pocket pc.
In my book Nokia wins the non touchscreen phones, I'd like to see them pull of a s60 device with a touchscreen.

mikeeey said:
does it not have it?
lol there I go assuming things again...
Am I really that out of the loop? when did HTC stop using wifi in their new devices?
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you know what also pisses me off, her call quality is horrible, can barely hear what the person is saying, sounds like she has a blown speaker, but from reviews I've been reading this is really what it sounds like.
and what has pissed me of since the very beginning, was I didn't want her to get this phone originally, I wanted her to get the nokia N75 (she would like it better) but it has been discontinued now.. and there are not any other s60 devices right now.
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Okay first off your avatar pic reminds me of a very good friend. But every skater looks like that. But secondly, The BlackJack II is made from Samsung. I dont know where you got HTC from Take the duo back and get a new phone. So far it's not that good. As far as I've heard. And I think that HTC stopped making smartphones and the BJ II is a smartphone. Well originally the BJ I had wi-fi (the european version anyway) but at&t decided to cripple it and take out the wi-fi chip. The BJ II was never actually released with a wi-fi chip. I actually suggest you tell her to get a BJ II or go for the Tilt since it's the only phone that at&t offers that has wi-fi (besides the iPhoney and the Crackberry)
Kraize

I dont recommend the tilt to anyone who isnt technically inclined and/or willing to tinker. It takes too much work to get the phone into a sweet spot. It will be a pain in the ass to update 2 - I barely have time to keep up with updating my own, lol.

I completely agree with you...my wife can't stand my tilt but she isn't tech savvy like I am.
I love the Tilt ONLY because of XDA though...if I weren't able to find the sweet spots I have I would have returned it long ago. I am spoiled...never again will I own a phone I can't customize as much as I do now.
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I dont recommend the tilt to anyone who isnt technically inclined and/or willing to tinker. It takes too much work to get the phone into a sweet spot. It will be a pain in the ass to update 2 - I barely have time to keep up with updating my own, lol.
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MrEous said:
I completely agree with you...my wife can't stand my tilt but she isn't tech savvy like I am.
I love the Tilt ONLY because of XDA though...if I weren't able to find the sweet spots I have I would have returned it long ago. I am spoiled...never again will I own a phone I can't customize as much as I do now.
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Really? I guess I'm just naturally tech savvy. My tilt is actually my second wm phone. I had the BlackJack first. I didn't find xda until maybe 2 months after I got my tilt. I had already customized it to my own knowledge, but this site made it even better. I guess you're right. It's probably best to stick with crackberry and nokia.

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Okay first off your avatar pic reminds me of a very good friend. But every skater looks like that. But secondly, The BlackJack II is made from Samsung. I dont know where you got HTC from Take the duo back and get a new phone. So far it's not that good. As far as I've heard. And I think that HTC stopped making smartphones and the BJ II is a smartphone. Well originally the BJ I had wi-fi (the european version anyway) but at&t decided to cripple it and take out the wi-fi chip. The BJ II was never actually released with a wi-fi chip. I actually suggest you tell her to get a BJ II or go for the Tilt since it's the only phone that at&t offers that has wi-fi (besides the iPhoney and the Crackberry)
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haha well if you live in washington that may be me..
well I have told her to return it and wait around the august - october area, but she says she will only return it if I can find a device now, well I have, but it's discontinued, the N75. But i know in a few months there will be more phones.
She doesnt like the blackjack II, and i dont blame her, I dont like phones that are wide and have the keyboard on the outside.
She likes my tilt but cant spend $300 - $500 lol

I also agree, i wouldnt like my tilt if it weren't for xda. the stock AT&T rom sucks, and it would be too plain!
well nokia requires just as much work, that is the fun of nokia, is you gota install the doom emulator and then customize it.

mikeeey said:
haha well if you live in washington that may be me..
well I have told her to return it and wait around the august - october area, but she says she will only return it if I can find a device now, well I have, but it's discontinued, the N75. But i know in a few months there will be more phones.
She doesnt like the blackjack II, and i dont blame her, I dont like phones that are wide and have the keyboard on the outside.
She likes my tilt but cant spend $300 - $500 lol
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Not really :S Can't she upgrade? My friend recently bought a tilt. It was $100 instant (making it $199 from $299) and then $100 mail-in-rebate (making it a final $99+tax).

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Not really :S Can't she upgrade? My friend recently bought a tilt. It was $100 instant (making it $199 from $299) and then $100 mail-in-rebate (making it a final $99+tax).
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really? i know buying it outright is $550, then with the 2 year contract it's $350, then with the rebate it's $250, but that's as cheap as I saw it..
even then i had to pay $350 for mine cause I guess you had to buy either the internet plan or messaging or something to get the rebate, and my parents didnt wanna do that.
I guess her dad told her she has to stick with this phone, so. yeah, gay, lol.

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really? i know buying it outright is $550, then with the 2 year contract it's $350, then with the rebate it's $250, but that's as cheap as I saw it..
even then i had to pay $350 for mine cause I guess you had to buy either the internet plan or messaging or something to get the rebate, and my parents didnt wanna do that.
I guess her dad told her she has to stick with this phone, so. yeah, gay, lol.
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Guessing you're over 18? Random sorry lol. But how about the LG Vu? or the Moto Q global? The tilt is $149 /w 2 yr contract (after mir) in my zip code. Don't know why'd it be any different in yours. Well the refurb is anyways. The new one is $200. Link. Also check amazon.
EDIT: Wow, you bought your phone late. I bought mine in Feb 08 and it was $350 (/w tax) after rebates. (Although I payed for the phone myself and none of the monthly bills ha) If I didn't take messaging it would have been $450 for me. Some people were especially lucky. There was a time where the tilt was only $74.99 after rebate with a new contract on amazon. That also included messaging/internet. I really think it was worth it though. The rebate, not for you anyways since you would pay min $20 for 6months which would be $20 more than instead of getting the rebate. I had a employee discount which takes off 15% of my monthly bill, so it was a saving of about $25 so I took it. I mean what the heck who cares lol. At least I got messaging too. So my real total was about $425. Which is pretty hefty. Now going back, I could have bought a tilt from ebay or something for that price. :S well that's the problem with tech. It gets cheap too quick. Btw did you check out that slick new white BJII with the pink and the blue background? That totally looks sick. I would get that if it wasn't a BJII and a BJI instead lol

Is it worth selling my wizzard for a kaiser

So I Wanted people with wizards to answer this so its not posted elsewhere..
I Currently have a Wizard that I have only had for a couple months & I Came across a kaiser for 100 bucks last night. Spec wise it seems to obliterate the wizard with 2x the processor speed & heaps more memory for both ram & rom.. But is it worth it..
Also if anyone has owned both how is the feel of a kaiser in your pocket compared to a wizard as I think the wiz is very bulky..

If it's only 100 bucks, why can't you have both?

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If it's only 100 bucks, why can't you have both?
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cause I am married & my wife says so...

Maybe she needs a Wizard for her phone!

Kaiser is a better device hands down. If you can, i'd really keep both, but if you can't, definitely go for the Kaiser. You're getting a very nice price (considering it's in good condition) so go for it.

Well its official I am the proud owner of a Very Slightly used kaiser.. & yes I Do believe I Jsut about stole it at this price..
In fact I just got finished changing to my 1st non oem rom on it & its definitely the snappier device..
Also what would I Do with the wizard aside from let it sit as a backup phone? My wife doesn't want it because she prefers her much thinner Excalibur so its now for sale to recover what I paid for the kaiser.. Aside from that I Plan to get a G2 when they come out later this year so I Get some T-Mo 3g action here that is supposed to be being installed this month so the Kaider will be our backup device shortly anyway..
So if anyone wants to pay 100 bucks for a Wizard (t-mo usa flavor) let me know..

Best use for my old TMO Wing?

So I recently ditched T-Mobile after almost 10 years starting with a Color Sidekick, then a Sidekick II, then an MDA, then the Wing. As much as I tried to play the "Loyal Customer" card, they couldn't offer me a good enough deal on the Touch Pro 2, so I ditched 'em and moved to Verizon and paid ten bucks for the Omnia i910 on a new 2-year agreement. Obviously the Omnia i910 is not exactly the cat's pajamas in the world of winmo smartphones but it IS an upgrade from the dusty old Wing. So the question is: What should I do with my Wing? I wish I could have kept my MDA too but I traded it in for the Wing. There has got to be a good repurposing for my Wing, but what should I do with it? Suggestions?

sell it to me

you need to offer me a good price to get that option considered. I'm a bit of a collector of gadgetry. But really, what can I use it for? Obviously it is an MP3 player and wi-fi capable internet device and it can run nes/snes emulation but my new phone can do all that and more. What could I do with it to make it still hold some value to me? And really, who's gonna actually buy it?

1. you can buy a desk cradle and use it as an alarm clock.
2. start cooking roms and use the wing as a stepping stone
3. take that bad boy apart for fun
i dont got many ideas but thats a start

I use mine sometimes when I need to tether my laptop. I've also used it with a Jabra BT3030 as a remote MP3 player.
Mostly it just sits on my shelf.

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you need to offer me a good price to get that option considered. I'm a bit of a collector of gadgetry. But really, what can I use it for?
If seriously considering selling I could use it. Just replaced my LCD and nav buttons, but can't get the screen on. Took it apart 3 times already to verify ribbon connections. Still won't light up. It's pissing me off. $100 ?
PS: I already dropped $80 trying to fix this 1.
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