Connecting to car stereo - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories

Hi
Just after some input on connecting to a car stereo. My thoughts
1) I have read the guide on creating your own mini usb to 3.5mm jack plug cable and have also seen similar things for sale
2) I have seen on a car forum for the car i own a guide for making a cable connecting 3.5mm jack plug to the AUX on the car stereo (used for the cd changer).
3) I can charger my kaiser through a usb cable in the car.
4) There is obviously a power source on the stereo.
Given the above, would it be possible in theory to have a direct connection between the phone usb and the stereo that would allow the phone to play through the stereo and also charge it at the same time?
I dont want to go through the process of doing it if there is some fundamental reason why it cant be done.

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Of course you could. But keep in mind that your microphone won't work for most usb+3.5mm adapter. It's very troublesome to pick up the phone. I would recommend you to opt for BT route. e.g. Stereo bt headset w/ 3.5 mm adapter like Sony Ds-220 or BT head unit like JVC BT-1

Something you might have to research is alternator whine.
I made a lead myself as you described. But as long as the device was charging There would be a buzzing coming from the speakers. This went away when running on battery power and when the device was fully charged.
I also tried a bluetooth device, and again if I tried to use it while it was charging I would get the dreaded buzzing.
I still have not found a solution. FM transmitters have never worked either for me. There is not enough space between channels here.

5manarmy said:
Something you might have to research is alternator whine.
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You can solve this by installing ground looping isolator if the power source from yr car is not clean

Hi.
I had the same problem, see my solution with the help of others:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2353474
Good luck.

Well I think based on what I have read and the replies on here I am going to give it a go.
I will update on here once completed

I have a bluetooth stereo in my cab and my phone connects to the stereo using the bluetooth, I am also able to use Btmusic and play anything on my phone thru my car stereo its great for the odd file just wish it would do video as well thru bluetooth.
Os

jackleung said:
Of course you could. But keep in mind that your microphone won't work for most usb+3.5mm adapter. It's very troublesome to pick up the phone. I would recommend you to opt for BT route. e.g. Stereo bt headset w/ 3.5 mm adapter like Sony Ds-220 or BT head unit like JVC BT-1
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The original mic supplied works okay for me with the headphones chopped, but its very echoey even mounted as far from my speakers as possible so would agree with the above.
Ive the same setup in my car. The phone stuff was easy, it was getting the right VAG adapter to fit my cars HU that gave me the most trouble.
I also hardwired in my charging cable to keep it tidier and my cig lighter free, might be worth thinking about.

I have made a start on this. I have wired in the cable from the Car stereo and at the moment this ends with a 3.5mm Jack Plug. I have also bought the YC A200 cable from HTC which allows connection of the 3.5mm jack plug, a wired headset and also mini usb charging. In fact two of the HTC cables were delivered to me (one ordered but 2 delivered and invoiced) so I might use one as a development cable.
So far - music plays through stereo ok, not over impressed with the quality so far but am going to fiddle with the settings. SatNav also plays through the stereo - much easier to hear. I have had an issue this morning when having music playing and satnav running that the GPS signal was being lost. Not sure if this is a problem with running the two things at once or an interference issue from somewhere. I have never had problems with the GPS before. Am going to do a soft reset and try again on the way home tonight.
I was looking at hardwiring the charging cable to tidy things up and free up the lighter socket. I was going to use the 12v feed from the stereo. Is there anything I need to do or be aware of on this?
How does the mic etc work? I know you can use the headset but I would prefer to use the car speakers if possible. We also have a number of old nokia car kits at work which I was thinking of using for the mic. Would the speaker side work if I connected the relevant cables from the headset port on the HTC adaptor to the 3.5mm jack plug connections?

Im just using the mic from the supplied headset, chopped off the cable past the mic/volume slider and mounted it in the car. Call audio comes through the car speakers.
To hardwire the charger in you need step the voltage down from 12v to the needed 5v. I took a live and earth from the back of the stereo, took apart a usb cig charger and soldered the cables into it, put it back together and hid it behind the dash. Then just took a mini usb cable from that up to the 3in1 plugged into the phone.
SRSWOWHD cleaned my sound up considerably using Pocketplayer.

Well, my experiences so far,
Got the HTC YC A200 cable
1) Playing music through car stereo works great
2) GPS works fine most of the time, still not sure what the problem is, mainly voice directions not working properly all the time
3) Charging via the cigarette lighter socket, still got to hard wire the charging
Latest development
Got a Nokia car kit mic, just had to trim the locking lugs off the 2.5mm (or is it 2mm) jack plug. The mic works fine and the caller can hear me ok. The sound comes through the stereo but is not as loud as the music but i can change this slightly by fiddling with the plug, gets louder or quieter but still not the same volume as the music.
Any ideas? Would it be that the HTC adaptor is expecting the htc wired headset?

removing alternator whine / hum
Finally solved the alternator whine / hum over at my place too. Key is to take the power for the charger directly from the power feeding the car stereo. That way both the stereo and charger reference the same ground which eliminated the ground loop and thus the alternator noise.
http://www.jenrathbun.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=26&p=76#p76

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Anyone using their Titan as an MP3 player in the car?

I found out I can put rhapsody tracks on the SD card on my Titan (XV6800) so I've been using it as my car MP3 player. Problem is when it's plugged into the charger I get some noise (the phone is connected to my car using an aux port.) My question is does anyone use a similar setup, and if so what do you use as your charger? Right now I'm using a cig port to USB thing. I could probably reroute the ground, but I'd rather not deal with the mess of wires.
is this capable?
ca3sar said:
is this capable?
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?? Are you asking how I have my phone as my MP3 player?
You need something like this. I have that connected to the 2.5mm/USB splitter that comes with the phone, then there's a 3.5mm lead that goes from that connector to my car stereo's aux input.
Considering there's a mic on the adapter, it doubles as a handsfree kit so when a call comes in, the music pauses and I can hear the caller through my stereo.
Pioneer Avic D3
I have the Pioneer Avic D3x in my car with the bluetooth module. I just installed it. I had to install a plugin on the mogul called a Jet something and it connected fine with my audio in the car. I can listen to my radio station SuperRadioMix.com and it mutes out when someone calls. The station streams perfectly to my mogul phone. This may sound like a advertising for my radio station....and it is. . Just to let you know you can do it.
C-Zer
DJ C-Zer said:
I have the Pioneer Avic D3x in my car with the bluetooth module. I just installed it. I had to install a plugin on the mogul called a Jet something and it connected fine with my audio in the car. I can listen to my radio station SuperRadioMix.com and it mutes out when someone calls. The station streams perfectly to my mogul phone. This may sound like a advertising for my radio station....and it is. . Just to let you know you can do it.
C-Zer
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Oh yea, blutooth would solve the problem because it's most likely related to the common ground, however I already have a rather nice Eclipse head, so I'm not looking to replace it. I am looking around for blutooth adapters though.
That noise you're hearing is a ground loop. The only way to get rid of it is to use some kind of ground loop noise isolator, like this one:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Q56nh4BU3tR/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?i=127SNI135
I use Mortplayer on my Titan for MP3's as well as streaming radio. It works really good!
Coodaddy
i had a mini usb to 3.5 adapter but didnt work, i have verizon? any possible links?
ca3sar said:
i had a mini usb to 3.5 adapter but didnt work, i have verizon? any possible links?
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This is exactly what I'm using. You can find it on Verizon's site, you might also be able to find it in the store.
Thanks coodaddy1, I figured that was the next step. I thought about running a ground from the cig lighter to the chassis to see if it eliminated the hum.
I am using the usb/2.5 splitter that came with the phone with a 2.5-3.5 splitter i got a radio shack, all that connected to my stereo line in. Works like a charm.
propagandax said:
I am using the usb/2.5 splitter that came with the phone with a 2.5-3.5 splitter i got a radio shack, all that connected to my stereo line in. Works like a charm.
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I found that the 2.5-3.5 doesn't have the correct amount of posts and you will need to eventually pull out the tip to get full stereo (are you sure you are getting stereo sound rather than mono out of both speakers- all left or all right)?
If that works, cool!
This is what you need - Car Dock with Audio out
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=881
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I use mine for that all the time. I have one of those bracketron mounting clips that clip to your vent and I use the included headphone adapter and the usb splitter (becuase it wont charge unless you connect the power to the usb splitter). I connect a mini usb cable to a usb adapter in the charger socket. To connect to the radio on my ford focus I have a digital adapter that lets me use standard rca jack input to the digital port on the back of the factory radio (works with any any audio source)
To connect to the 2.5mm headset adapter,I have a cable I made by chopping the end of a old 2.5mm handsfree headset and soldering a standard 3.5mm headset socket to it. You should be able to buy a similar adapter from any vendor on the web. The headset that the moguls included adapter wants is the standard four conductor one that most multimedia cell phones like the samsung a920 use. (I originally used the cable I made with a samsung) The only problems I have had is that vibration from driving sometimes jiggles the mini usb loose from the phone and you have to plug it in again. I guess I could route the cable over the top of the bracket to hold it in place to solve the problem,in fact,Ill try that tomorrow.
One other problem I have had is tomtom as it has no internal media player. I was using it for gps functionality,but other than the fact that it is missing all sorts of key information on my area,like points of interest that it really should have,its very difficult to switch out of it and control media player. That means that while you can start your music and then launch the gps program you are then stuck with whatever your play list is and cant control media player. Other than that it does work well and the voice comes through fine. I switched to Garmins gps software and it works great. It does not even need to have some other app initialize the gps like tomtom does. It does not have an internal media player either,but at least its a little easier to switch out of.
im running a bt headset with a miniplug straight into my aux input in my car. works well enough to stream music and mp3s

Car stereo auxiliary jack silent?

I just got a new car that has an auxiliary jack that says I can play my music from MP3/Ipod players. I bought myself a 3.5 mm cord, plugged it into the HD and the Auxiliary port in the car stereo, but there's no sound.
Is there something else I need to do in order to hook my Blackstone up to my car stereo's Auxiliary jack? I figured the 3.5 mm Auxiliary port would just hook up to the HD's headphone jack as if the stereo would act as headphones. Am I wrong?
With mine, I just plugged the 3.5mm jack into the HD and every sound even phone calls automatically came through the cars speakers.
Try plugging another device with a 3.5mm jack into the car, if there is still no sound the theirs either a setting on the head unit or cable may be faulty.
Here is the cable I used, connected directly to the back of the head unit using RCA connectors.
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=172348
Hmm, does sound (sorry) like a cable problem. I have plugged the HD into external speakers via the 3.5 socket with no problems.
What you are aiming for should work but the cable needs to be right.
You probably have to go to the option on your car stereo. It's just like changing from the fm receiver to the cd player on your car stereo (except you have to go to aux-in).
Look in the car stereo manual how to activate the aux-in option.
If Headsets work fine on your HD this should work as well.
Then it's not a problem with you phone.
Thanks for the replies, everyone. I did switch it to the "Aux" function as opposed to Radio/Satellite/CD/Etc., so I'll see if my son's iPod Touch works or maybe there's something else I have to do with the stereo in the user manual. Otherwise I'll assume the cable is faulty. Hope my wife didn't throw out the packaging just yet! It was just a cheap $7 retractable one I got from Target. Next option is a 3 foot $15 one.
Also, make sure you connected the cable to the aux-in on the stereo and not the aux-out. This isn't always indicated in a clear way (I'm just thinking what it could be).
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Also, make sure you connected the cable to the aux-in on the stereo and not the aux-out. This isn't always indicated in a clear way (I'm just thinking what it could be).
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Yep, thanks for the input. Luckily it's pretty idiot-proof. It's the manufacturer installed Bose stereo system in a 2009 Nissan Rogue. There's only one input on the front face of the stereo panel labeled "Aux In". And you press a button labeled "AUX" to use it as far as I know. Pretty handy!
i have the same problem with my Alpine stereo,has an AUX Input,Even when i enable aux on the head unit still no sound.Taken it to my local car audio garage and theyre baffled!
Later said to me it could be a faulty HU
Ah, well I am used to after market stereo's with the connections on the back (rca connection).
Sorry that I'm not able to help. Well as long as you get sound through headsets and such it is not a problem with the HD, but I guess you figured that out.
Sadly those RCA's are usually outputs for an amp :'(
I'll test my son's iPod Touch today with the cord and see if his works. If his doesn't work also then I'll try a different 3.5 mm to 3.5 mm cord. If THAT doesn't work then I'll have to assume the stereo is malfunctioning.
Another thing that crossed my mind is what if the headphone jack on the HD doesn't produce enough juice to feed into the stereo. Would that be possible? Although it sounds like others are able to get theirs to work, so I'm assuming the HD puts out enough.
Thanks again for the quick input, everybody!
when you plug the lead into the touchHD, you do get the liitle headfones show up on the topbar of the screen?
you havent muted the media player somehow?
you have removed the 100dB eurolimit on the HD output yes?
vol on the HD is around the 80% on both media player and general system sound?
AUX is actually enabled on the headunit in the car? on my factory fitted headunit, the aux button is switchable between the aux line in and an external cd player... if you have the manual for the headunit, have a look to see if there is this option
the headfone jack on the HD pushes out plenty of power, especially if the 100dB limit is removed (hd tweak or advance config... dont forget to disable audio booster and the EQ as that will really mess up the sound)

Connecting HTC Magic to car stereo

Hi everybody,
I am wondering if someone knows if it is possible to connect the HTC Magic to the car stereo (via USB).
Now that I have flac support I would like to try it in the car stereo.
Thanks
I have mine connected via the CD changer port on my Clio.
The Magic is connected via one of these: Jays HTC Y Splitter
The EXT USB goes into the Magic, the USB connector goes into the USB charger and the female EXT USB goes into usb to 3.5mm jack which connects to the "Connects2" audio adaptor for the CD Changer which fools the head unit into thinking there is a changer connected and gives you a line in.
All this is behind the dash and only a couple of cm is showing to plug the Magic into when audio and charging is needed.
It sounds great when listening to music or podcasts and GPS instructions are clear as well. When connected and you get a call then it shuts off the music and routes the call to my BT headset seamlessly.
One thing I would point out is when I first put it in, I got a high pitched whine rising with the engine revs. I found this was due to the earthing of the charger and the alternator. It is called alternator whine and I fitted a ground loop isolator to the line in which cured the problem. All in all it took about an hour and £30 or so and works brilliantly.
Hope that helps.
I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be able to connect using an actual USB cable (like you connect to the computer to charge or copy files with). Your head unit would likely be expecting an iPod to interface with.
What you CAN do, if your stereo head unit has an "Aux" input is connect an audio patch cable from the Aux input to the headphone adaptor that your phone came with. If you don't have one, try this link.
You will, of course, have to control the audio from your phone and not the radio head unit.
More expensive, BUT have a look at the Parrot Mki9100 Bluetooth hands free kit. Supports bluetooth stereo streaming, plays from a usb stick (and controls an ipod)

keep built-in mic active when 3.5 mm jack is plugged

Hi everyone,
I'm wondering if it's possible to have built-in mic active when a cable is plugged into the 3.5 mmjack. For example...I connect the hd2 to the car stereo and if I get a call i need to disconnect the cable because the built-in mic is inactive.
venz111 said:
Hi everyone,
I'm wondering if it's possible to have built-in mic active when a cable is plugged into the 3.5 mmjack. For example...I connect the hd2 to the car stereo and if I get a call i need to disconnect the cable because the built-in mic is inactive.
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Mine works when I plug mine into my car with a standard 3.5mm stereo cable.
Does the cable you're using have 1 or 2 black stripes on the plug?
i agree, this feature was one of the most pleasant surprises for me with the HD2.
on my kaiser, i used a special HTC headset that had an inline microphone (which i snapped on to my shirt collar) and this headset allowed me to plug in a standard 3.5mm stereo jack, which my car audio was plugged in to. this was the best solution at the time for the kaiser that allowed me to keep all cables connected and be able to use the car's speakers and have a working microphone all at once.
but with the HD2...WOW!!! i plugged in my car stereo's 3.5mm stereo jack straight into the HD2 and put on some music and started driving. a call came in while driving and i just pressed answer because i was still used to my kaiser set up (i had owned the HD2 for less than 24 hours at this point so wasn't quite used to it yet).
i started hearing the other party and i started speaking. and the other party could hear me. and THEN it hit me...i was like, holy hell!!!...what am i speaking in to? how come the other party can hear me?
great features, great phone!
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Mine works when I plug mine into my car with a standard 3.5mm stereo cable.
Does the cable you're using have 1 or 2 black stripes on the plug?
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I think it has two stripes since it's a stereo jack. I'm not sure but i think initialy I was able to speak in the car with the leo plugged into the stereo. May be some app I've installed later changed something?!?
the built in mic will stay active unless u have a cable with 4 connections (3 rings on the plug), a regular stereo cable has 2 rings. I've been using this type of setup for a couple of years with my previous phone, a.k.a. iphone. The mic is pretty sensitive and can pick up your voice rather well. I have my hd2 clipped to my sunvisor for easy access and routed the wiring inside the windshield molding down under the dashboard to the stereo and it works pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osLFRLL7qOw

[Q] Car audio?

My car does not have native bluetooth.
Right now what I use with my iPhone is a Kensington cigarette adapter-powered dock connector, that charges the dock and also has a line-out cord - so I charge + get audio out of the dock.
what is my equivalent solution once my android phone arrives? Is there any alternative besides:
USB cable + USB->cigarette adapter, plus a 3.5mm male-male cable
Edit: To clarify, my current car situation is:
NO native bluetooth support. Would either need something like a bluetooth speaker (sucks for music, okay for calls?) or a bluetooth to 3.5mm adapter
I have a center console which has a cigarette adapter and a 3.5mm female port right beside it... so this is the AUX for my audio. Thinking at this time, at least, I'd prefer to keep using this AUX input for my music...
I use this: http://www.amazon.com/Kinivo-BTC8-Bluetooth-Transmitter-iPhone4/dp/B003OTXBY6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Connects through bluetooth for media and calls. Then connects to your car stereo with either FM or 3.5mm. It also has a charger built in.
Do you want bluetooth audio or hardwired output to an auxiliary input on your car stereo? The latter will have substantially better audio quality.
If you have a relatively new Kenwood receiver, Kenwood offers an app in the Play Store that enables you to play music over USB. The reviews seem to be rather negative though, and I don't think it offers full control. I'll try it out in my car once I get all my music uploaded to Google, but I'll probably just keep using my iPod as it has full native compatibility.
there is only one correct answer to this thread
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-DEH-P9400BH-Mobile-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B006YBQ6Z2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1
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Solutions Etcetera said:
Do you want bluetooth audio or hardwired output to an auxiliary input on your car stereo? The latter will have substantially better audio quality.
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To clarify, my current car situation is:
NO native bluetooth support. Would either need something like a bluetooth speaker (sucks for music, okay for calls?) or a bluetooth to 3.5mm adapter
I have a center console which has a cigarette adapter and a 3.5mm female port right beside it... so this is the AUX for my audio. Thinking at this time, at least, I'd prefer to keep using this AUX input for my music...
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there is only one correct answer to this thread
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-DEH-P9400BH-Mobile-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B006YBQ6Z2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1
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Ya... not looking to get any replacement receiver or anything like that!
Also, it's a 2007 Honda Accord...
Kaitlyn2004 said:
Edit: To clarify, my current car situation is:
NO native bluetooth support. Would either need something like a bluetooth speaker (sucks for music, okay for calls?) or a bluetooth to 3.5mm adapter
I have a center console which has a cigarette adapter and a 3.5mm female port right beside it... so this is the AUX for my audio. Thinking at this time, at least, I'd prefer to keep using this AUX input for my music...
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What I posted does exactly this.
Kaitlyn2004 said:
Ya... not looking to get any replacement receiver or anything like that!
Also, it's a 2007 Honda Accord...
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too bad. these pioneer head units are INSANELY good. the 2 USB connections to charge or plug in SD cards alone is worth the price..not to mention the bluetooth capabilities to remotely control pandora from your head unit or steering wheel controls
Kaitlyn2004 said:
To clarify, my current car situation is:
NO native bluetooth support. Would either need something like a bluetooth speaker (sucks for music, okay for calls?) or a bluetooth to 3.5mm adapter
I have a center console which has a cigarette adapter and a 3.5mm female port right beside it... so this is the AUX for my audio. Thinking at this time, at least, I'd prefer to keep using this AUX input for my music...
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Then just connect the headphone out of the phone into the AUX audio jack. Note that you *may* run into ground loop problems when the phone is connected to the AUX jack AND it is charging from the vehicle's 12V, resulting in a possible range of hum and noise gremlins. If you do, power supplies with an isolated ground are available.
Based on your needs i think you're looking for something like one of these. Stream from phone to car via bluetooth and output via mini-stereo to car AUX port. They each work a bit differently and have different features, so i'd compare them and see which suits your needs.
I should note, to charge the phone, you'd just need a separate usb charger or cable.
Griffin BlueTrip Aux
http://store.griffintechnology.com/bluetrip-aux
Samsung HS3000 (can charge via 9V usb adapter)
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Stereo-Clip-On-Bluetooth-Headset/dp/B0057WWK5E
Belkin BT music receiver
http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F4U037

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