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Can't connect to local WiFi...errrrr!

I managed to do this quite easily with my PDA2K, but I'm having a heck of a time getting connected to my WiFi LAN. Has anyone managed to do this yet? Not GPRS, but WiFi.
Thanks!
Tom

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I had trouble connecting to my home wifi (well it would appear to connect, but pocket IE wouldn't "locate" any pages). I ran ethereal on my home linux gateway and saw that it was getting its DHCP address properly and performing DNS lookups and even getting the responses. I wish there was ethereal for the Pocket PC, because what eventually made it work was that I turned up the power to maximum performance (instead of in between that and maximum battery). I guess the power level was just a tad too low such that the DNS queries weren't making it back to the 9100/Wizard device. Everything has worked like a charm since including Skype and a voip phone I use to connect by my home PBX called SJPhone.

Turns out I can't connect with either device now. I can get on with my laptop without a problem.
The manual sucks on this topic, but what's the best way to connect to a network?
Tom

Just bringing this back to the top. Still no connection at work, home or Starbucks.
Tom

is the Wizard any better than the BA?
Sorry tnw I can't help - I am wondering whether I should ditch my BA and go for the Wizard... do you think the Wizard is an improvement over the BA, or is it a downgrade?

I really liked my BA when I bought it. I had a the crappy HP from Tmobile which gave me nothing but problems, so getting the BA was great. I still like it. I saw the Universal in person and while it looked cool, I was getting tired of having a big pda/phone so I really didn't want to buy it. Its bigger and heavier than my BA, so that pretty much turned me off.
I read about the K-Jam on The Register and 48 hours after that had one in my hand. I really, really like it. I was looking for a smaller device than the PDA2K and having seen the i-Jam before, I thought this should work perfectly....and it does. I'm really glad I didn't go with the Universal. But, to each his own. The keyboard on the K-Jam is great also, screen is good, speaker is loud, speakerphone is perfect, camera is good....I really have no downsides to it....except I can't get on my frigg'in wifi.
If you don't mind the size, go for the universal. If you're tired of the size and weight of the BA, go with the Wizard. Overall, I feel the Wizard is a huge improvement over the BA. Phone and BT work perfectly! If you buy it from Expansys, you have 14 days to play with it. 14-day return policy.
Tom

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funnymanva said:
I had trouble connecting to my home wifi (well it would appear to connect, but pocket IE wouldn't "locate" any pages). I ran ethereal on my home linux gateway and saw that it was getting its DHCP address properly and performing DNS lookups and even getting the responses. I wish there was ethereal for the Pocket PC, because what eventually made it work was that I turned up the power to maximum performance (instead of in between that and maximum battery). I guess the power level was just a tad too low such that the DNS queries weren't making it back to the 9100/Wizard device. Everything has worked like a charm since including Skype and a voip phone I use to connect by my home PBX called SJPhone.
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I am getting the same, will not locate any page, though wifi settings show signal strength. Changing to settings suggested did not work for me, anyone else had this and resolved? Other than that loving the MDA Vario (Kjam)

happy bunny
finally got working. not too sure what I did but a couple of soft resets and undoing setting a specified IP address. now typing this on the couch using wireless network. Kjam now staying Ijam (MDA compact) likely to be on ebay soon.

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allanbach said:
finally got working. not too sure what I did but a couple of soft resets and undoing setting a specified IP address. now typing this on the couch using wireless network. Kjam now staying Ijam (MDA compact) likely to be on ebay soon.
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What did you change? I've been playing with this all day long. I'm writting this on my laptop over the wifi I should be able to connect to using my kjam. I spent a couple hours at Starbucks today as well.
Any hints would be great! I can get on GPRS without a problem, if that makes a difference.
Tom

My T-Mobile (UK) MDA Vario will not connect to my home 802.11g network. If I switch to mixed 802.11b/g mode the Vario connects and everything is well. The Vario can see the "g" network and knows which encryption is in use but it will not connect. I've read that Australian versions will connect to "g" networks, as will K-Jams and 9100s.
T-Mobile (UK) told me that they have chosen to disable "g" access. I am stunned. I've been trying to find a way to re-enable "g" access but so far no luck. I have hard reset and loaded no external ROM files whatsoever but that didn't fix it. I'm now trawling through the registry to try to find something but I don't actually have a clue what to look for or where.
If anyone has a solution to enabling "g" access on the UK MDA Vario please post. It is the only disappointment I have with the machine.

My KJam was able to connect to g network but on 11M, and regularly dropped the connection and connected, and in an hour of use it halted on WiFi (the pda works, but you get hourglass and nothing more if you enter wifi settings, or try to turn wifi off). I restricted the access point to 802.11b.

i can connect to my AP with no problems if it unsecured. if i turn on encryption it does not get an ip. if i enable mac filtering it works, but removes the mac from the AP when i disconnect.
afaik some APs have problems communicating with mobile devices.

Re: Turn up the power level to max performance
funnymanva said:
I had trouble connecting to my home wifi (well it would appear to connect, but pocket IE wouldn't "locate" any pages). I ran ethereal on my home linux gateway and saw that it was getting its DHCP address properly and performing DNS lookups and even getting the responses. I wish there was ethereal for the Pocket PC, because what eventually made it work was that I turned up the power to maximum performance (instead of in between that and maximum battery). I guess the power level was just a tad too low such that the DNS queries weren't making it back to the 9100/Wizard device. Everything has worked like a charm since including Skype and a voip phone I use to connect by my home PBX called SJPhone.
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thanks!!!!!! i have been busting my nut with this!!!!

I am having the same problem like this. .. but how did u guys fix it?

Watch Downloaded Video on your BA from your PC streamed over WiFi

Ever thought that you could watch downloaded Video on your BA from your PC, streamed over WiFi, well now you can.
Before you start you will need a PDA with a good media player, Wireless network (WiFi), connection between your PDA and a PC, and the ability to set up a network share. The instructions below are for a Blueangel device but I am sure a smart person could adapt them for any other WM6 device.
Using Windows Mobile 6 I have Xplode’s (which includes lots of other guys work) version running at the moment on my Blueangel device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342142 This port of WM6 runs extremely fast on a XDA I have had for years.
I use CorePlayer http://coreplayer.com/ which seems to be the best media player going around, it plays 512x384 (AVI, DIVX) files at 29.97fps off the SD card flawlessly so the ovious next step is to stream them over WiFi. The resolution and format of video I mention is the type of format you will download most quality video off the internet. (Yes I know that my device only has a 320x240 screen, but the point is to play most downloaded video without having to convert it in any way, while within WiFi range!)
I have installed the network sharing capabilities found in cabs.rar, NetPlug.cab http://www.bigmike.it/download/cabs.rar By LGSilva
I then created a share on my home PC, (actually it already existed for my mediagate) and placed the video files downloaded into that sub directory. They are just the straight AVI files downloaded using Azureus http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ , you can use any torrent download program I am sure most of you have one by now.
I then mapped the network drive on my Blueangel to the share on the home PC, this was very easy to do, from the Settings-Connections-Network Plugin.
The rest is childs play, start CorePlayer, Open a file by browsing through Network (as opposed to My Device, or Storage Card).
Here is where my questions start, can people who have some knowledge please reply back with how well this works for them. For me video playback is about 95% Great, it video plays for about a minute then pauses for a few seconds then keeps playing. Obviously I am searching for the holy grail of 100% with pauses or dropped frames, and Super high quality. I suspect the limiting factor is the WiFi network, If I could just find a way to speed it up by 10% it would be perfect. I don’t use any encryption, and I have found that with some video and if I hold my hand still I can play video with no pause (tested over about 15minutes).
Thanks Justin. Oh and PS. If you do use this and it works please donate to Xplode below so we can keep future development of the BA WM6 going, he becoming a rare bread.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...ency_code=EUR&bn=PP-DonationsBF&charset=UTF-8

Free888 said:
Ever thought that you could watch downloaded Video on your BA from your PC, streamed over WiFi, well now you can.
Thanks Justin. Oh and PS. If you do use this and it works please donate to Xplode below so we can keep future development of the BA WM6 going, he becoming a rare bread.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...ency_code=EUR&bn=PP-DonationsBF&charset=UTF-8
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What I would like to know is how you manage to start and keep WiFi running on your BA. I have asked numerous times on these boards and no one seems to know what the secret is.
I think it was xplode himself who said that the unit was buggy. Which is a pity as for people over 50, the screen seems to be an ideal size to actually look at and press buttons on.
Personally I havent even been able to load his ROM but when I have had other ROMs working, the WiFi connection was NBG. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and even when it does, it sometimes reports that it isn't running! Even worse, there seems to be no way of scanning for available networks and then choosing the one you want. You seem to have to hope that it decides to connect to yours as opposed to some other.
As for donations, I wouldn't mind donating if people responded to messages and the unit could be got working properly. I would particularly like to try VoIP on this 400 MHz unit to see if it is any better than my 190 MHz Wizard

If you are having problems with Wifi, installing Xplodes ROM, or getting replies to your posts then I would suggest doing a bit more research and searching.
I personally have had a good experience with WiFi on my BA when using 2003SE, Helmi's ROM, and now Xplode's. (lets not focus on the little issue about having to turn it on twice, or soft re-set if that's too hard).
Too set up WiFi do the following Settings-Connections-Network Cards-[Add New...] type in your SID name (the name of your own wireless LAN, if you don't know this then you can't connect) [Next] Choose your Authentication type and Data Encryption type. These settings MUST match your WiFi set up. (Auth-Open and Encrypt-Disabled is a good start but I would not recommend leaving it like that unless you have other forms of security) Hit [Next] then Finish and your done. All you need to do now is turn it on (twice).
Too turn on
Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-[hit the wifi button]
then Settings-Connections-Wireless LAN (Turn on Wireless LAN)
If there are some people out there who have had positive experiences with WiFi under WM6 then please post and let us know, especially if you have tried the video streaming challenge.
I am still trying to work out how to improve the speed by a few percent.

Why make all this effort? Go to http://www.orb.com and sign up. It's free. Then you can stream anything (audio, video, photos, etc) from your desktop to your windows mobile device no matter where you are (on the LAN or outside the house from the internet) No messing around necessary.
MJB

Fair question mbial,
There is lots of ways to do this, The obvious one I was expecting to hear was "Why not compress the files" and yes when I do that it works perfectly. It would probably work well using the software you recommend if I compressed the files too, as that would suffer the same bandwidth limitations as my WiFi if not worse. (However I would be concerned with opening up access to all my media to the internet, even if it was fairly secure).
Unfortunately I can't access the site you mentioned as my work has blocked it, so I can't comment on that further.
My Goal was to open up all of the Video content that is currently on my PC hard disk, to be able to be played on my BA. I currently watch this on the PC, or on my LCD TV via a media gate http://www.mediagateusa.com/ I just thought it would be cool to be able to do when the kids and wife are using the TV's I can still watch Video on my BA.
The answer may not even be faster WiFi, it may be new hardware WiFi router, different WiFi configuraton, different Media Player, or settings, maybe its not possible I just wanted to see if anyone else had tried this. It is soooo close to working perfectly its frustrating.

Free888 -
Trust me and check out orb...it transcodes the media on the fly to the appropriate resolution for your device so there's no need to ever compress anything. It performs better, utilizes less bandwidth, and is completely secure. (Not like I work for them, its simply a great free tool.)
MJB

Cool, I will give it a go at home over the weekend and let you know how I went.
Thanks.

mbial said:
Why make all this effort? Go to http://www.orb.com and sign up. It's free. Then you can stream anything (audio, video, photos, etc) from your desktop to your windows mobile device no matter where you are (on the LAN or outside the house from the internet) No messing around necessary.
MJB
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I like fre88 idea, its safe and free, I know what I am doing and not depending on any other network / application.

mbial said:
Free888 -
Trust me and check out orb...it transcodes the media on the fly to the appropriate resolution for your device so there's no need to ever compress anything. It performs better, utilizes less bandwidth, and is completely secure. (Not like I work for them, its simply a great free tool.)
MJB
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i agree..i use it for a view years and it's great
www.orb.com
greating stef

Completely baffled by what is going on but it seems to be working!
Free888 said:
Too set up WiFi do the following Settings-Connections-Network Cards-[Add New...] type in your SID name (the name of your own wireless LAN, if you don't know this then you can't connect) [Next] Choose your Authentication type and Data Encryption type. These settings MUST match your WiFi set up. (Auth-Open and Encrypt-Disabled is a good start but I would not recommend leaving it like that unless you have other forms of security) Hit [Next] then Finish and your done. All you need to do now is turn it on (twice).
Too turn on
Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-[hit the wifi button]
then Settings-Connections-Wireless LAN (Turn on Wireless LAN)
If there are some people out there who have had positive experiences with WiFi under WM6 then please post and let us know, especially if you have tried the video streaming challenge.
I am still trying to work out how to improve the speed by a few percent.
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No, I had never tried these tricks! What I had done was to try to turn on WiFi in Comm Mgr and seen it not turn on. But as soon as I tried your method of turning it on in Settings Connections Wireless LAN, it turned on immediately (using the 5.60.00WWE ROM)
Then I installed an SJPhone VoIP software and hey presto, it seems to work immediately. Trouble routing the sound through the normal ports but I am sure I can work them out. Meanwhile I am trying to use my Wizard headset and trying to work out the delay and echos. As far as both our problems are concerned, cant you increase the speed of this BA by installing Battery Status software and increasing the clock speed? Everyone increases the speed on the Wizard from 190 MHz to somewhere around 225-240 MHz so perhaps if we did this the echos would disappear and the sound would be a bit louder?
This really does seem to be a much more advanced unit than the Wizard: Why are they not more in use? It is larger but thinner than more 'modern' versions

Free888 said:
If you are having problems with Wifi, installing Xplodes ROM, or getting replies to your posts then I would suggest doing a bit more research and searching.
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This statement goes with all issues and will never change. It is the same all over the place. Fortunately it only appears to be extremely abused as we see the negative more than the positive.
I personally have had a good experience with WiFi on my BA when using 2003SE, Helmi's ROM, and now Xplode's. (lets not focus on the little issue about having to turn it on twice, or soft re-set if that's too hard).
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I am not sure why, but with the 1938 build from PDAViet my wireless works better than ever, since the upgrade from 2003SE. It turns on with one click and even reconnects with no clicks after a soft boot. The only bug left is that if you let the BA turn off it cannot reconnect after you power it back on. You have to turn off wifi and then turn it back on. 2 clicks. I can live with this flaw.
Too set up WiFi do the following Settings-Connections-Network Cards-[Add New...] type in your SID name (the name of your own wireless LAN, if you don't know this then you can't connect)
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This couldn't be more opposite of my experiences if you used a mirror. I have NEVER entered my SSID into the BA, and it always finds my access point, and any others in the area I happen to be in at the time. It asks me if I want to connect and if required asks for a key. It literally works flawlessly in this regard.
[Next] Choose your Authentication type and Data Encryption type. These settings MUST match your WiFi set up. (Auth-Open and Encrypt-Disabled is a good start but I would not recommend leaving it like that unless you have other forms of security) Hit [Next] then Finish and your done. All you need to do now is turn it on (twice).
Too turn on
Settings-Connections-Comm Manager-[hit the wifi button]
then Settings-Connections-Wireless LAN (Turn on Wireless LAN)
If there are some people out there who have had positive experiences with WiFi under WM6 then please post and let us know, especially if you have tried the video streaming challenge.
I am still trying to work out how to improve the speed by a few percent.
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As for wifi speed improvements, the only thing I have found that may help is adjusting the power mode to best performance.

Anyone know what happened to the Wireless strength meter ???
I've just noticed that the wireless strength meter isn't working in Xplode's 6.00.0000 build ( not that I can say it was worked when I first installed it ). Anyone know what's up with that ? Is there a fix out there ?

My wireless signal strength meter definitely worked when I first installed Xplodes ROM, but after a couple of days it stoped working and has not returned.

Is there a good wlan+hspda setup?

Hi I have looked on the wiki and for some posts and I couldn't find anything, sorry if this has already been answered but, this is what I want...
Various wlan to be setup on my phone, 3g to always be on. When I enter a zone that has wlan that I know of I can activate wlan and the phone prioritizes the wlan connection.
The best solution I have so far: wlan setup for many zones 3g is priority, when i enter a zone I have to connect wlan deactivate 3g connection wlan usually works unless the signal drops too low then 3g will start up and that will take priority(or worse case edge or gprs will start up, which I have never been able to get to actually work it says the connection is there but never have i loaded a web page or downloaded an email in anything other than wifi or 3g)
Now I think windows mobile is to blame here but is there a solution for me? I tried to set wifi as main connection method but when I did 3g never seemed to work maybe I just set it up completely wrong.
Maybe there is some good software that can do this for me? or a known method to get it working properly.
many thanks,
Chris

Am I really the only one not satisfied with the connection options on this phone?
I have friends with the iphone and g1 and they seem to have no problem using 3g and wlan without any hassle.

badasschris said:
Am I really the only one not satisfied with the connection options on this phone?
I have friends with the iphone and g1 and they seem to have no problem using 3g and wlan without any hassle.
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It's not a matter of "This Phone" it's a problem of Windows Mobile 80% of apps, and ROM fixes are to cover over failings and missing gaps in WM, things that SHOULD have been in place since WM2003. Same with the WinMobile UI... isnt much of one is there? not without a ton of today addons, and pocket plus or WisBar its M$'s strategy they make their money of other people's addons through licensing. You also lose out on 20% of WinMobile functionality if you don't have an Exchange server available, what do i need to buy Exchange server and run it at home on my desktop By buying a half dozen small apps i can get that functionality back at home but those apps are an additional 20+$ a pop.
notice on mobile office theres no database? Oh you can buy a 3rd party for 200$ Microsoft loves to play games.
Just my opinion

WinMo Network Management SUCKS!

Argh!
I've never really posted a rant, but here's one.
Symbian is streets ahead of WinMo when it comes to network management.
With Symbian if you open an app that wants to access the Internet you get a prompt asking what available connection you want to use. If for some reason while using that app you lose the connection, you get prompted again.
WinMo doesn't ask. It uses whatever network is available going from Wifi down.
This is a problem for some (Okay, not all. I'm sure people with unlimited data plans, and those who don't want to be prompted like this way). Symbian let you configure programs to automatically connect to a network. It gave you a choice. Again, WinMo doesn't.
My own example -
I'm with Telstra, in Australia. We don't get unlimited data. I have a 150MB Plan.
With my previous N95 I could start up Internet Radio, chose WiFi for my connection, and listen to it while I was in bed knowing that if I fall asleep, and the WiFi drops out, the program will stop. It won't switch over to HSDPA and cost me a fortune.
Now my Touch HD. It sleeps automatically after 30 minutes. I've just found out that when it does that, I lose WiFi.
Last night when I went to bed I started up Kinoma, and was listening to a shoutcast stream over WiFi. The phone went to sleep and with the wifi connection lost, the phone went to HSDPA.
12 Hours of streaming has put me 560MB over my 150MB limit. That's $270 extra I'm going to need to pay.
Oh well. Lesson learned.
I don't understand though how Windows Mobile can be so far ahead of Symbian in almost every area, yet lacking by a huge amount when it comes to Network Management.
FWIW - I've now set all programs that want to use the Internet to now use my "Work Connection" so they will only use WiFi but
a) What a useless workaround. If for some reason I do want to use HSDPA data I then have to go through the hassle of changing it back
and
b) How hard is it to have the option there to "Always Ask"
Seriously!?
Phew. I'm done.

you have my sympathy, my last smart phone was symbian UIQ. that had internet profiles and priorities etc. WinMo is sadly deficient in that area.
There are a few issues raised here.
First off wifi turning off when the phone (and you!) goes to sleep. I think there is a setting to prevent that, have a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488623
also i have seen mentioned an app called no_data which prevents GPRS connections, might be usefull, though I have no experience of it.

I have to agree on this, but on a slightly different subject: the EVIL windows mobile connection manager.
It is completely useless, being in the middle way between iPhone style (connect with any network and don't bother the user), and Symbian style (bother the user and let him choose the network every time). That is, it requires the users to dig into tricky and labyrinthic settings and always fails to do the right thing.
Thx to connection manager, I cannot use the BT PAN connection I spent long nights trying to get it work on my Motorola Q9, when the phone is not in airplane mode, because the CM will unilaterally think the PAN is useless and use H$DPA (or GPR$) instead.

Good old fashion Telstra reeming plays a part as well.

OUCH on the $270!!!
[email protected]#$%^&*()_+|
I share you frastration until I found this No Data application which I install first in every flash, it just disables any Data connection!
If you need it let me know

Thanks for the sympathy.
My biggest problem with NoData is that I actually want to be able to use HSDPA when I am not near a WiFi network, I don't want data off permanently!
Why can't there be an app that lets you chose which connection everytime. That's what is annoying me most!

When you need it just switch it back on. Less than few clicks

Hi,
i have just posted regarding this issue on another thread.
I remember reading a review for the Touch HD and one reviewer mentioned a 'simple thord party app that allows one button switching from wifi to 3g(HSDPA)'. rather disappointingly the reviewer does not mention what this app is called!!!!!
actually the issue i have is slighlty different, if i set the network setting to use wifi , when i turn wifi off i have the phone simply will not connect to anything until is go back through.
START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS>CONNECTIONS>ADVANCED>SELECT NETWORKS> either MY Work Network or Orang Internet.
phew what a pain in the preverbials.
Microsoft - i really hope you sort this in winMo 6.5
Anybody else - how about a simple app, if i switch wifi on and a network is found, set the above to my work network.
if not found then either set it to Orange Internet (or whoeever) (for those of us with unlimited data) or as the thread leader suggests just bloody ask whether it is ok to go back to 3G/HSDPA.
but can we please stop the:
START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS>CONNECTIONS>ADVANCED>SELECT NETWORKS>MY Work Network
or
START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS>CONNECTIONS>ADVANCED>SELECT NETWORKS>"carrier internet connection"
7 clicks of frustration that i struggle to do without a stylus

I've since installed and been using NoData. While not a perfect solution, it does make it easier to turn my data connections on and off without going through the settings menus.
It will do until Microsoft decides to catch up with the rest of the field with regards to network management.

Wifi Unstable?

I'm using Resco Radio to stream live radio, and, while it works fine over hsdpa, I find it buffers every few mins over WLAN.
I have the WLAN set to "best performance", and am approx 75cm from the router - signal isn't an issue. I work in an IT call center so I have tested it with routers there and get the same issue - its the phone not the routers.
I notice that the WLAN symbol at the top of the screen seems to go to "connecting" when this happens, its as though it just drops out intermittently?
Has anyone else experienced similar or is my device possibly faulty?
Thanks!

I am using Wifi all day here in the states (as the phone only supports edge here).
I never had that problem. Wifi is super fast for me.
I did notice though that I think that after I installed NET3.5 Wifi became unstable.
So I removed .NET3.5 and it seems to be working fine and very stable now.
My Wifi setting are "balanced" and I have to admit that with this phone the Wifi power consumption is super low, comparing to other devices.

WiFi working fine here.

I'm using WiFi all day through work's WiFi and at home as well - both WLANs are perfectly stable and super fast here.
I have it set to "balance" for the performance. I'm also amazed how quickly it connects to the WiFi access point when its brought out of 'sleep' mode! MUCH quicker than my Touch Pro!!
FWIW, I have .NET 3.7 installed - no problems at all.

Ok, uninstalled .net...
That didn't help!
However I think I have figured it out, the stupid thing turns wifi off (even though it is in use) when the screen has been off a few seconds, I guess to save power, thereby interrupting my stream!
Now I just need to find a way to force it to stay on, battery be damned!
I like to listen to the radio when I'm going to sleep, so its plugged in to charge overnight anyway, and I turn off wifi when I go out....

have a look at this registry key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms]
there's
HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended"=dword:0