First of all congratulations to all users for this excellent forum.
Here's the situation:
In my country one specific carrier provider has a data plan with only 3,5 euros/month which offer unlimited browsing to internet (port 80 i assume) and unlimited downloads with the restriction that the file youre downloading does not exceed 1 MB.
The point in this story is that you cant work with applications that works in other port than the ports that they have open (eg voip).
They also have a proxy server to set up on your mobile device which is at 192.168.200.10 at port 9401.
The obvious question is if theres a possibility to establish a vpn connection between my mobile and a home server in order to "pass" all the traffic through their 9401 port so to conclude to use this service as truly unlimited (i mean "port free")?!?
Can anybody suggest the necessary software (vpn etc) to set up in both machines to give it a try? What kind of configuration is required in the vpn software you will suggest?Is there a point that i am missing?
My mobile device is an htc touch diamond.
Thank you!!
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Hi, i finally got the unlock code from Tmobile and i am now able to use my phone.
I am trying to setup the GPRS with Tmobile USA. I went onle and found some information, put it in and setup GPRS, but it does not seem to work. When i try to open a wap site with the GPRS, like wap.yahoo.com, it does not come up.
I do not pay for the GPRS, but from what i heard, with out devices, we can use it free, but not full web functionality. We can use pop, imap and stuff, and also get mms, and access wap site. Please if any one knows any configurations that work it will be greatly appreciated.
Try setting up your Proxy settings.
They changed their network requirement recently for Port 80 (HTTP). Be nice if they told everyone though!
Proxy setting should be:
216.155.165.50 on port 8080
According to the Tmobile sites I've frequented, there is no such thing as "free web" anymore and it disappeared months ago. Last time I checked personally, the cheapest you could get away with is the T-Zones data plan....whatever they call it now. I think it's 6 or 7 dollars a month and lets you use wap.voicestream.com as an access point. If you do that and use the proxy server 216.155.165.50, port 8080, you can get to most of the web. Recently, however, I've been reading that even that loophole is slowly being closed by area so while it mght work for me, it may not for you and it might not work for me tomorrow. You can certainly try it using the above access point and proxy setting, but don't be surprised if it does nothing without your paying for a data package.
Yeah, it seems they are slowly shutting down that "function" as mine works sporadically now. Damn. It was a bargain at $4.99/month for the last yr or so
yep - welcome to my world of 10 USD for 2MB a month ! :-(
A bargain indeed. I'm waiting to see if you can do the proxy workaround with your own proxy server. I've had the $20/mo package for ages and it's well worth it but my wife and son have the $5/mo package and use Tmo's http for web access and my own socks proxy for MSN Messenger. A fixed IP address is a big help but you might be able to get away with using dyndns.org for that, too. I guess we'll find out soon as more and more people find out they're starting to get what they paid for.
Well i'm sort of bummed out right now.
My t-mobile Tzones unlimited internet is working again, if I use the proxy. That's dandy. If I turn on my WI-FI and connect to my home wifi, however, I have to go into connections and turn off the proxy for my tmobile gprs in order for me to connect to the internet.
Perhaps I'm doing something horribly wrong, or is this the only way to do it? Please let me know.........
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I have tried all i know, the proxy is blocking my wifi from connecting to the net, so i had to take it out. It says i am connected but i cannot seem to pull up any site, so i paid for the $5.99 t-zone deal, it says it might take a while to provision.
Now i am trying to test the connection by sending MMS, it has been a while i usually don't send MMS. How do i send MMS to a friend in london, i'm in the states, i know it is their mobile [email protected], just don't know what the something is. I know the US version is [email protected]. Thanks.
Also, my MDA PRo gives me an option of WAP1.2 or WAP 2.0, what is the diffrence?
obiesoft said:
Hi, i finally got the unlock code from Tmobile and i am now able to use my phone.
I am trying to setup the GPRS with Tmobile USA. I went onle and found some information, put it in and setup GPRS, but it does not seem to work. When i try to open a wap site with the GPRS, like wap.yahoo.com, it does not come up.
I do not pay for the GPRS, but from what i heard, with out devices, we can use it free, but not full web functionality. We can use pop, imap and stuff, and also get mms, and access wap site. Please if any one knows any configurations that work it will be greatly appreciated.
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Walk into a tmobile store and tell them that you want to pay for a sidekick plan for a compatible euro piece of hardware.
It will cost you $30 usd but its unlimited gprs
Create a new connection and use wap.voicestream.com as the access point. You might still have to call tech support if you don't bring the universal with you because the way I understand it, they ping the simchip and grab the IMEI over the air...may be better to just bring it.
Works great for me. I pop my verizon dsl mail all day with this baby
Now SOMEONE GET ME MY PUSH MAIL!!!
Try this settings...I hope this helps.
Primary IP address: 216.155.165.050
Secondary IP address: Blank
APN name: wap.voicestream.com
Data bearer: GPRS
Profile name: GPRS
Username: Blank
Bearer: Data
Home page: http://wap.myvoicestream.com
I have tried to get the answer to this question on another forum, to no avail, so I am trying here as well.
Anyone have an answer as to why using an isp connection should/would be better than using a wap connection. I have a Cingular 8525 with the unlimited PDA connect plan, so I can use either, without fear of cost differential. They both seem to work fine, but I can't really determine a difference between the two. They both access the same websites, I can view streaming video with both, and the speed of each seems comporable (if anything, the WAP connection seems a bit faster).
The WAP connection with cingular does use proxy servers, so I need to be sure to not use this when going over wifi, but for using the 3G network does it really make a difference?
Well, interesting question. Wap in most cases of PDA/Phone use, is an ISP connection, but via an alternative route. In a sense then one is not better than the other. Of course to anyone that does not have a nice unlimited ISP data plan then WAP is much preferrable/cheaper. With a good quality WAP connection the data transfer speed is, as you've found may be very good.
Test out each route using the following site:
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
Mike
You should refer to Sleuth's TyTN notes. There is a long discussion about this particular topic.
In short, with Cingular, if you use wap.cingular you'll constantly have your ip address updated, which can cause session timeout errors on Exchange ActiveSync DirectPush (in effect, this causes a behavior very similar to "polling every x minutes" for mail -- or "pulling").
This is not the case with isp.cingular, which will give you a public ip address for the session. isp.cingular does not need the proxy server, which also makes it much more friendly with WiFi.
Alas, isp.cingular is only available with the more expensive PDAConnect plan, which does not include any SMS nor access to Cingular Video.
Whether or not it's worth it is up to you...
From what I read, wap.cingular does not give you a public IP address - it goes through NAT/PAT. And, as goestoeleven mentioned, Cingular Video can only be accessed through wap - rather, through the proxy. Same goes for other Cingular MEdia Net websites.
Each connection has its place as each will allow access to certain things. Differences as far as I know them:
1. Can not access MEdiaNet sites without WAP connection with Proxy. This includes Cingular Video, however I used to be able to access CV without the Proxy. Not sure what changed on Cingular's end.
2. Some sites will detect that you are on a WAP connection and present the site differently. Some sites will use just the browser ID string. Some sites will use both. So sometimes it's hit or miss regarding which content of a site you'll get. Therefore, it's nice to have the different connections defined so that you can switch between them.
3. ISP gives you a public (albeit dynamic) IP address. WAP is translated. See next item...
4. VPN. My company's VPN will not work properly without a router allowing VPN pass-through or a public IP address. So when I have to get to our VPN, I have to use the ISP connection.
That's about it as far as I know. All of my knowledge comes from real practical use. I try not to repeat hearsay.
so if you have the unlim. pda plan from cingular to get the rebate.. then after you get the rebate you switch to the unlimited medinet for 20 bucks will cingular pick up on the fact that you are not using isp.cingular and using there wap.cingular instead and charge you for some sorta of data...
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so if you have the unlim. pda plan from cingular to get the rebate.. then after you get the rebate you switch to the unlimited medinet for 20 bucks will cingular pick up on the fact that you are not using isp.cingular and using there wap.cingular instead and charge you for some sorta of data...
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if your on medianet, then you should be using wap.cingular, if your on the PDA connect, then you should be using isp.cingular
If you have the medianet package and you use isp.cingular then you will be charged per kb.
now for my question which is the third time i'm asking it because i'm not getting an answer anywher... I have the mediamax unlimitted bundle and i was having trouble streaming videos, so i disabled the proxy and am still going through wap.cingular my question is am i going to be billed per kb because i don't have the proxy enabled?
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if your on medianet, then you should be using wap.cingular, if your on the PDA connect, then you should be using isp.cingular
If you have the medianet package and you use isp.cingular then you will be charged per kb.
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I still don't get *why* I should use isp.cingular if I am on PDA Connect ... I know I can (and I have tried it out, and it seems to work fine), but wap.cingular seems to work fine too, and maybe load sites a bit faster, too. Billingwise (given that I am already on PDA Connect), it is not going to make a difference to me, so why switch from wap.cingular (which is how the phone came when I bought it) to isp.cingular? Will I see any benefits or difference?
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if your on medianet, then you should be using wap.cingular, if your on the PDA connect, then you should be using isp.cingular
If you have the medianet package and you use isp.cingular then you will be charged per kb.
now for my question which is the third time i'm asking it because i'm not getting an answer anywher... I have the mediamax unlimitted bundle and i was having trouble streaming videos, so i disabled the proxy and am still going through wap.cingular my question is am i going to be billed per kb because i don't have the proxy enabled?
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why would i get charged per kb when its unlimited medianet threw wap.cingular with the unlimited medianet?
is what you are saying is that if i switch to the unlimited medianet then i can only use wap.cingular and i should disable isp.cingular or i will get charged per kb when using isp.cingular?
You should not get charged per KB if you bypass the proxy AS LONG AS YOU STAY ON wap.cingular. isp.cingular gives you a public IP, which is a commodity they make you pay extra for, that's why they would charge per KB on the MEdia packages.
Note that I used the word "should" - I don't know for a fact that you won't be charged, but you *should* not be.
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why would i get charged per kb when its unlimited medianet threw wap.cingular with the unlimited medianet?
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medianet through wap.cingular doesn't charge you per kb.
honestabe said:
is what you are saying is that if i switch to the unlimited medianet then i can only use wap.cingular and i should disable isp.cingular or i will get charged per kb when using isp.cingular?
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Yes, thats it.
I may finally have found a distinction between using isp.cingular and wap.cingular. When I use Yahoo mobile mail (beta version) with isp.cingular I get greater functionality (check boxes to easily manage multiple email messages) than when I access the same site using wap.cingular.
Finally, I seem to have proven (at least to myself) that there really is a distinction between using the two settings ... and that isp.cingular can, in fact, provide some beneficial results.
Folks,
I have a unlock Hermes with OEM Cingular Rom on a TMOBILE network with the 5.99 web package, I want to use the Hermes as a either wireless modem, bluetooth modem or a IRDA modem to connect to the Internet when I don't have broadband speed. Is this possible. I use to own the Wizard and I could use the internet sharing. Please provide this newbie with detail information on how to proceed. I have the HTC Modem drivers. I just need instructions. You folks all rock. Thank a million.
Here is a step by step for usb tethering.
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=860314
You will have to setup your network connection on your TyTN using this proxy: 216.165.155.50:8080 since t-mo has closed down the open ports on the $6 t-zones plan. You will not be able to stream, download files larger than 1mb, access https urls, instant messenging clients, and you may have issues with your java apps. If you need the open ports you can go to t-mo website and change your device to a blackberry and order the $20/mo blackberry unlimited add on and ditch the proxy. If not the $6/mo plan works fine for plain/jane websurfing. If you need more info on network settings check out the t-mobile wiki on hofo or the networking forum here.
My carrier has a cheap gprs data plan with unlimited e-mail access but only 10Mb for internet usage. Since it doesn't specify any exchange server to use, my guess is that the traffic is differentiated based on the port (anyone thinks there's another way?), so I immediatly thought about using openvpn in the same port and have cheap unlimited internet access on my pda. The problem is that I can't find any info on the push-mail protocol. Can anyone tell me what port is uses so that I can try it out?
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paulo_andre said:
My carrier has a cheap gprs data plan with unlimited e-mail access but only 10Mb for internet usage. Since it doesn't specify any exchange server to use, my guess is that the traffic is differentiated based on the port (anyone thinks there's another way?), so I immediatly thought about using openvpn in the same port and have cheap unlimited internet access on my pda. The problem is that I can't find any info on the push-mail protocol. Can anyone tell me what port is uses so that I can try it out?
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ActiveSync uses SSL to connect to the Exchange server, and port 443 is all you need, even with push email. The push email setting only works with ActiveSync, which only does Outlook.
Hi all,
I've been searching high and low for any help on using OpenVPN on my Rogers TyTN. Does anyone have experience with this? I cant connect via Wifi or GPRS and cannot seem to access my TAP device (never loads??).
Any help please!
Thanks.
Are you using the "basic" (standard?) GPRS/3G access point node (APN)? If you're connecting to internet.com, then you are and VPN apps (including the one built into WM) won't work. You need to call Rogers and up your data service to the "VPN" level. The APN for this is vpn.com. It will cost you $10 per month over and above what you're paying for data now.
Basically the difference is this: The internet.com APN is behind a NAT gateway (firewall). The IP address you get is a private address. Some ports (e.g. Port 47 needed for all VPN protocols) are blocked. The vpn.com APN is connected directly to the Internet and the IP address you get is a public Internet address. Lastly, no ports are blocked.
Hope this helps.
John