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Hey All,
I know you can store files etc on the PocketPC and its storage cards through activesync, but every time you copy from/to it goes through the active sync tranfser window etc. Also, you cant just double click a file on the pocket pc, if you do it just brings up the files properties (you have to copy it locally to open it).
Is there a way to make the pocket pc act like a storage device, such as a usb hard disk or pen drive, where you dont need activesync, you can just double click files to open them etc.
Cheers,
Jez.
yes
but it demand that the pda support usb host
non of the xda series support it
some of the toshiba pda's and the acer pda i just got the other day
support it
there are some CF cards which have usb host options
but it would require the xda to haev the backpack to use CF cards
and not sure if it would be compatible
Jez said:
Is there a way to make the pocket pc act like a storage device, such as a usb hard disk or pen drive
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Hi Jez, unfortunately this is not possible with the standard software.
Usb to disk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413376
In the Schwartz World rom there is,in the usb to pc connections menu, a box to chech that makes you ppc a usb disk!! Only seeing your sd card as the drive. So it can be done but i've been look for the cab no luck. I've asked Vetvito about it. Noreply So i'm still looking.
Anybody Got some info? Pm me if you can Help
You can use nuemassstorage from Freewarepocketpc.net
Raju Jetla
Hi all,
My first post here...
Is it possible for PCs (Windows XP) to recognise the JAM as a removable USB drive in My Computer without installing the active sync software? I could make good use of my 1GB SD card if this is possible.
Any information is much appreciated.
Thanks.
No
Unfortunately it's only possible @ WM2005 and thats not gonna work with our little machines. (Yes I'm a little pesstimistic :wink: )
yup tried WM2005 and it works! hehehe! :lol:
One would consider certain things as 'essential' must haves- maybe a subject view.
So there's absolutely nothing that can be updated in WM2003 to allow to do this??
P.S. What devices are running the WM2005 edition?
I think you should develop some piece of software by yourself :wink:
I've searched many hours and there is no one who can make it run.
(doesn't mean it's impossible )
Well, is it really that neccessary? You can use ActiveSync on your home computer and bluetooth or IR for file exchanges on other computers (when they have a bluetooth or IR adapter). Usually, you don't have the cable with you anyway, do you? For the few cases where you still really need it, you can download ActiveSync and install it. No big deal, is it?
It will be much easier because you don't need a USB memory stick anymore. But when you use the same computers (Work, home) then it's no problem to install Activesync
Ok, i get the point - but still, you need the cable which you don't always carry with you. Also, you can use it like a (very slow) USB stick when using IR or BT.
There are 're-coiling' usb cables that fit on your keyring/pocket...
For me it's all about having one unit do many things- the JAM/Magician is very close to doing that.
I am using the Norton Commander clone called "Servant Salamander" http://www.altap.cz/
This file manager has a plugin that allows one to copy and manage files directly on the device -- very conveniently!
frax,
Would I be correct in saying that this application has to be installed on the PC for file transfer to be performed? If this is the case then using ActiveSync is the same thing no?
yep, it is more or less the same thing. I think it is actually using activesync for the interface, so that needs to be installed as well.
There's an application called Softick Card Export that allows you to do just this. www.softick.com
When you install it it puts a system icon in the bottom right of the today screen where you can select either activesync or card modes. In card mode it works just like a memory stick (with the SD card only readable).
Ive been using it for a few weeks now and it works a treat on all xp machines that I've tried - doesn't need activesync (at least not in xp) and is much quicker than copying through activesync.
fishes234 said:
There's an application called Softick Card Export that allows you to do just this. www.softick.com
When you install it it puts a system icon in the bottom right of the today screen where you can select either activesync or card modes. In card mode it works just like a memory stick (with the SD card only readable).
Ive been using it for a few weeks now and it works a treat on all xp machines that I've tried - doesn't need activesync (at least not in xp) and is much quicker than copying through activesync.
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I'll just confirm that. It works great! And like fishes234 says, it transfers files at USB1.0 speed. ActiveSync is so slow compared to USB1 (lol i'm not going to mention USB2)
I recommend this kit
georgexoasi said:
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Have you tried this
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
I think it is better not to give conclusion if you don't know the answer. It is just misleading. Hope you learn.
U just dont dig up old posts and write a reply to it...
I'm not the ony one that said no... at thta time the soft-tick software was not that well known so stop looking for ways to put down ppl just to make u feel better (especially looking for old posts)... And only post if u have something new to say nd not what somebody aleady said ...
More importantly why are u replying to my post which is the first reply... and not any of the consecutive ones R u Blind???
I'm Definetley sure i know more about Phones and PPCs...
georgexoasi said:
U just dont dig up old posts and write a reply to it...
I'm not the ony one that said no... at thta time the soft-tick software was not that well known so stop looking for ways to put down ppl just to make u feel better (especially looking for old posts)... And only post if u have something new to say nd not what somebody aleady said ...
More importantly why are u replying to my post which is the first reply... and not any of the consecutive ones R u Blind???
I'm Definetley sure i know more about Phones and PPCs...
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Okay, please argue using PM's or somewhere else cause this is a waste. You are being way to hostile and that's not what the rest of us here are waiting for.
U R rite... Im sorry ppl....
Read this article:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wceintro5/html/wce50conWhatsNew.asp
It confirms that WM5 has the USB Mass Storage driver built in, means without any additional software, we can use the storage card in WM5 device just like a USB pen drive/external HDD. This is very useful to connect the device in PCs without ActiveSync installed.
Does anybody know how to make the Universal to be recognized as a USB Mass Storage in Windows OS?
The DLL usbmsfn.dll is missing from the Exec's ROM - without that you'll not have much joy me thinks.
Hopefully much faster to
With no wifi support in activesync this may be much faster.
I find it a real pain transfering video files to my mda pro over activesync so slow
Can it be ripped from the device emulator or someone else's WM5 ROM?
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Does the Universal requires hardware-ready for USB hosting besides the necessary drivers?
No, pls don't be confused with USB host capability.
This is not related to that. The USB Mass Storage function is basically the capability to emulate the Universal so that when its plugged to a USB port of a PC, the PC will recognize the Universal as if its an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader.
If you use an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader to transport files you should be familiar with this. The benefit is that you do not need any driver for the drive to be recognize by Windows OS (starting W2k).
I myself, everytime I want to copy big size files like MP3 or movie to my Universal, I will take out the SD Card and insert it to the card reader then copy the files as its slightly faster to do so rather than using the ActiveSync.
The idea is that, with the USB Mass Storage driver that is built into the WM5, we do not need to take out the SD Card and use a card reader anymore. Just plug in the Universal and the PC can access the storage card directly with full speed.
Though this is definetely WM5 feature, but not really sure if this is implemented in Universal specifically. If anybody knows, please share.
No, pls don't be confused with USB host capability.
This is not related to that. The USB Mass Storage function is basically the capability to emulate the Universal so that when its plugged to a USB port of a PC, the PC will recognize the Universal as if its an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader.
If you use an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader to transport files you should be familiar with this. The benefit is that you do not need any driver for the drive to be recognize by Windows OS (starting W2k).
I myself, everytime I want to copy big size files like MP3 or movie to my Universal, I will take out the SD Card and insert it to the card reader then copy the files as its slightly faster to do so rather than using the ActiveSync.
The idea is that, with the USB Mass Storage driver that is built into the WM5, we do not need to take out the SD Card and use a card reader anymore. Just plug in the Universal and the PC can access the storage card directly with full speed.
Though this is definetely WM5 feature, but not really sure if this is implemented in Universal specifically. If anybody knows, please share.
Hate to burst bubbles, but the originally referenced article is taking about Windows CE5, not Windows Mobile5. While WM5 is built out of WCE5, it does not support everything that the underlying OS does or can. WCE5 is a base OS that a number of products are based on including WM devices like SmartPhones and PPC, and automotive electronics and even vending machines. At this point I know of no native mass storage capability in a WM5 device. Not to say it can't happen, as Softick provided the capability for WM2003 devices. It's just not that way out of the box.
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?
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With no wifi support in activesync this may be much faster.
I find it a real pain transfering video files to my mda pro over activesync so slow
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Use an SD card reader, or try transferring over a wifi network using a network shared folder using resco explorer.
Brilliant, trust me!
thaihugo said:
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?
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Version 2.10 Beta now supports WM5!! Horray!
http://www.softick.com/
heidy said:
thaihugo said:
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?
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Version 2.10 Beta now supports WM5!! Horray!
http://www.softick.com/
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Tested Working on Universal.
WOW. This is good news!
after installing it, the device hangs. I unplugged it and reset it manually. And it works. Really cool! I noticed the speed is not as fast compared to a card reader. Anyway, I'm happy that now I do not need to carry around additional thing, SD card reader, just to transport files.
after installing it, the device hangs. I unplugged it and reset it manually. And it works. Really cool! I noticed the speed is not as fast compared to a card reader. Anyway, I'm happy that now I do not need to carry around additional thing, SD card reader, just to transport files.
Sweet Software....
I install it (2.10), it keeps staying at the display when it is loading the bar and then it says that it cannot load it self...
Afterwards it uninstalls automatically...
I have Qtek ROM...
I've installed it and it works great on my Qtek 9000 (Universal). I only turn on de mass storage when i really need it, but then it works great to tranfer files from and tot every PC (no ActiveSync install needed).
I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:
On installation an error:
"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"
The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.
Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.
Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!
Cheers!
DaveUK said:
I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:
On installation an error:
"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"
The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.
Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.
Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!
Cheers!
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That's the same message I get!!! I have the same problem in My Qtek too...
This may be a stupid question, but is it possible to send real-time MIDI data over the USB link between PPC and computer (or via a wifi SD card for that matter)?
I've been playing with this Clanger Theremin app that turns your PPC touchscreen into a musical instrument of sorts - movement on the X axis changes pitch, movement on the Y axis changes volume.
It would be great if the entire touchscreen could be set up to send changes in MIDI values to a program running on the PC, also using the X and Y axes. Once MIDI data can be transferred, you could play the tuba via your PPC, or scratch virtual records like a dj, or really do just about anything.
There's already a program in development that allows you to do this with a Wacom drawing tablet (http://www.livelab.dk/tablet2midi.php), but a drawing tablet is already set up via USB to be a human input device or whatever you call it, so I wonder if the link between tablet and computer is at all similar to that between PPC and computer.
So would something like this be possible? Or is this just a pipe dream?
Wouldn't you just create a server on the desktop and get the client to connect to it through the Activesync network connection or bluetooth personal area network? The server would then have to behave like a MIDI device which might be the hard part. Would the PocketPC client produce MIDI events or send simpler x/y coordinates to the server which would then generate MIDI events?
this is a bloody excellent idea!!!
i can never have enough x/y pads!!!!!
anyone fancy a crack at it?
it should be pretty simple!
should have the option that when its touched it activates a switch (simple NOTE ON when pressed/ NOTE OFF when released). ive got annoyed with many xy pads for that reason!
i have a friend who may find this pretty easy.. sadly my code skills in that area are lacking severely.
i suspect he is too busy though..
i am quite liking the idea of the server/client method, with the ppc sending the data to a server that then converts that to midi data...
perhaps even a clever card export style driver emulation.. (only requires a pc driver instead of server program)
assignable hardware buttons!! great for activating effects..
anyone got any ideas?
edit: had another idea
great, i'm glad somebody else likes this idea! I guess the question is - how do you get a project like this started? I also don't have the coding experience that would allow me to make this myself.
Could I (or we, if there are more people that want this made) offer some sort of bounty for a finished app? Is there any system in place online for doing something like this? Something where you give a list of necessary specs and then post a reward for delivering a working app?
I certainly couldn't offer heaps, but if a bunch of people got together who wanted this and chipped in a bit of money each, perhaps it might motivate somebody to spend some time creating the thing. Programmers: how much would it take to convince you to spend some time creating something like this?
Or, if any experienced coders out there have a couple of ideas on how to do this and could point me in the right direction, perhaps I could do some research and eventually build this myself. As it is right now, I don't have a clue as to how to begin - can you send data of any kind down the USB link? Or over bluetooth, or wifi? What language should be used to program this?
Otherwise, if you're already interested in making a pocketpc into an x/y controller, and have the skills to do it, I can tell you that it'll be greatly appreciated.. Maybe I should post this topic outside of the Magician forum, as something like this could be useful for anybody with a pocketpc that has a touchscreen.
Anyway, I really hope that this can someday happen, it would be wonderful if it could. Perhaps focusing on MIDI data is a bad idea - if the touchscreen could be used to control anything on the PC then it might appeal to a wider range of users (and programmers). Imagine using your touchscreen via bluetooth to control Winamp from across the room, just moving your thumb up or down to raise or lower volume. I'm sure there are a huge variety of other uses that could come in handy as well. Assignable hardware buttons would be amazing...
There is already plenty of software that allows you to control your PC via your PPC (pocket VLC, winamp remote etc etc etc) but this doesnt neccesarily help matters.
If you have to have the controller on the screen of the host machine... you may as well be using a damn mouse.
I suggest a complete midi send system that will make the ppc work as if it is a real MIDI controller. This way you can use it as a system of control for elements that wont be controlled by devices you can have on-screen.
Im going to look into this later, im just about to do some important house related things
keep the ideas coming
Hello Everyone,
I'm a graphic designer.. and I (for some reason ) am so sure this is possible on an Android phone... but the question is.. is it worth their time? i hope my $20 dollars and other possible donators... can help answer that question!!
Here's The Concept: (sorry for the long essay)
I would like to use my android's touch screen to be my little helper when i'm on my graphic programs... either photoshop/illustrator.. even my html programs.. i would like a dedicated screen with Tools and Options that i usually use...
This could be done in many ways.... one would require a "server" application and displays the shortcuts according to the App in focus...
or...
You can make android as the HID thing (Sorry!! Thats as technical as i can get..)....so it sends "macros" to photoshop ... but this doesn't really require a server cuz HID thing shud be multi platform?? if i'm not mistaken...so instead of detecting.. there would be applications we choose which will show the appropriate buttons....
Here's one example: Photoshop
While one Photoshop, I would like Cuboid Buttons for Basic Tools(Marquee, Paint Brush, Eraser, Move tool..... ) on an array of screens and with fixed items like the "Undo" or "Layers" "Characters"... which will bring up the proper dialogue...
I'm willing to donate 20$ to the person who can do this ... i hope others can feel my frustration and want to help too... so we can get this going...
Plus.. there is a "Clingo" accessory for phones that can attach any device to any monitor!!! from the looks of it... it could very well work with my idea!!
Thank you for taking your time reading my big essay!!! (sorry)
I may not be a developer for android, but I know that if anyone does it, it'll cost them more than $20 of their time...
I think you should learn the key shortcuts or buy a keyboard with extended keys that you can program.
@DKuntz2 i know it will be more than 20 dollars... thats why i started my donation at 20 ... whoever is feeling like donating to this cause... can hopefully make it worth for the developer....
@jobarjo Yeah, I already know the keyboard shortcuts ... but theres alotta features on the photoshop that are not possible through a simple keyboard shortcut... and besides.. i only used Photoshop as an example, this can be implemented with Word Processors... Web Browsers.... Full screen Media player with controls on the side... I don't know theres alotta potential...
i just hope people find this 'donation' worthy as i do.... a guy can hope right?
It sounds like what you really need is the Optimus Maximus keyboard; http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/
Thanx.
but I am already familiar with the optimus..and that it can change the whole keyboard to pictures...anyways i just thought the guys would want this on their android phone.. rather than wasting $2400 US on that.!!!
I hope ill be able to make this on Google's App Inventor...
Peace.
solidkundi said:
I hope ill be able to make this on Google's App Inventor...
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You can't.
You need a "server" application on the computer which you can make or interact with a GAI app.
You also may need to interact with Photoshop in a way because its not just sending keyboard shortcuts because some tools don't have that.
I am unsure if you need to make a photoshop plugin for that or you can call some functions in the photoshop.exe.(I don't even know how my 3DConnexion SpaceNavigator calls the functions and such in Photoshop)
Google apps doesn't allow this functionality and I am unsure if it ever will(and even if it will it won't be soon)
well that sucks doesn't it...
thanks for that.. i hope i'll be able to make something out of google inventor ... i have soo much ideas... but they're all either novelty or something very specific to me...
This would be really useful, but hard, the way I see it you could do it using HID:
An android App that communicates as a slave device to a desktop machine.
Could use bluetooth and pretend to be HID but you'd have to write the HID layer from scratch in java as Android only does HID as the master (and even then only in CM6)
This would send keypress events which may be enough for some apps, but generally you'd need to map those events to some other combination of actions, under windows a combination of http://www.autohotkey.net/ and http://www.autohotkey.net/~Micha/HIDsupport/Autohotkey.html may do the job.
Implementing HID under Android would be the had part (for me). The rest would need to be configured per-feature-per-app
I do know there are several keyboard applications availble so keyboard shortcuts and keypresses aren't really the problem.
I am just unsure how you would link into photoshop tools without key combos.
You can get for iphone, good idea saves a lot of time
If someone is skilled enough to edit this to something with a Tools gui or allowing to asign a picture and hotkey to a button on the screen and pass on the hotkey to the server..
http://code.google.com/p/remotedroid/
And maybe remove the mouse functionality or put it in a tab.
I think ... we can make an "Action" file.. for most of the commands... and then send the respective keystroke .... that could work also..... and like u said have tabs
but i wudn't need mouse in there...