on a I-mate jam it's possible to turn on speaker while calling so you can speak "handsfree".
This can be done by holding down the green call button.
When I do this the sounds of the speaker is de same as normal only the sounds comes from the back of the phone instead of the front.
Does anybody know how to fix this? A friend of mine has the same phone without a problem.
KoBolD said:
on a I-mate jam it's possible to turn on speaker while calling so you can speak "handsfree".
This can be done by holding down the green call button.
When I do this the sounds of the speaker is de same as normal only the sounds comes from the back of the phone instead of the front.
Does anybody know how to fix this? A friend of mine has the same phone without a problem.
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Have you tried while you are on the speakerphone mode to make the volume slider higher?
That ain't gonna help you. This is a known - and unsolved problem with the Jam. If you really need a speakerphone, you should return the phone. No amount of firmware/ROM update will help you.
I use the speakerphone option without any problems. The sound is loud and clear. What is this unresolved JAM problem that you're talking about?
Jam speakerphone volume problem
My XDA1 had the best speakerphone I've ever used, including corded phones. I could be in a conferance room with 10 people around the table and everyone could hear, speak and the participate on the phone never had problems with background noise. I have a hard time accepting that next generation technology from the same manufacturer should be woefully inadequate. The unit is advertised as a speakerphone, the solution is to return my phone and purchase another? No thanks friend, anyone reading this with solutions please respond.
I only have the phone for 1 month now so I´ll return it
tnx for the help
I think most of us don't know how to hold the mini in the right way, while the phone is in speaker mode...
if u want to hear a load voice.. make sure that back of the phone faces ur ear..
that' because the mini has 2 speakers... and the one in the back( near the mirror) is loader.. so you will hear the conversation very well...
and BTY.. I suggest u upgrade to the latest ROM available for ur device..
it helped me a lot....
cheers
duke911 said:
I think most of us don't know how to hold the mini in the right way, while the phone is in speaker mode...
if u want to hear a load voice.. make sure that back of the phone faces ur ear..
that' because the mini has 2 speakers... and the one in the back( near the mirror) is loader.. so you will hear the conversation very well...
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Wrong - its patently obvious that the sound is coming from from the back speaker. Why on earth it comes frm the back is another question entirely, given that the speaker phone is supposed to free up your hands so you do other things, including multi-task on the device i.e looking at the screen! Every other phone I've had has a decent speakerphone - and they face the front too.
But the main problem is that the volume from the supposed "speakerphone" is too damn low, irregardless of location.
Considering all the huge volumes of prior experience that HTC has (making practically every Microsoft PPC device, smartphones, plus the Palm Treo phone), things like this awful speakerphone on the magician are really not excusable at all.
I went through 3 TREO 600s due to speaker problems. You could barely hear the speaker phone on the 600 either. ANd to top that off, no one could hear you! The JAM is nice, but the more that I use it, the more I wish that either I bought something else or that the the JAM could just work the way it was designed!!!!!!
1.3 Mega pixel camera... my ass! It's the same quality as my first Casio digital camera from '96. Not mention the fact that Imate can't even put a decent ROM update together.
Perhaps we should build our own PPC's!
P.S. PM me if you want the CEO and VP of Imate's e-mail address. I e-mailed them and they actually wrote back! -Of course they weren't very helpful though. :evil:
One time, I turned on this speakermode operation on my MDA-Compact, I could hear my phonecall loud and clear from the built-in speaker.... This happenend accidently, probably by pressing just the right button, but I wasn't aware....
I cannot find how to do this again? How can I get the MDA-Compact to operate in speakermode using the built-in speaker?
I'm searching this (and other forums) quite a while now, but I cannot find my solution?!
Any help will be very much appreciated!
Thanks,
Igor.
One time, I turned on this speakermode operation on my MDA-Compact, I could hear my phonecall loud and clear from the built-in speaker.... This happenend accidently, probably by pressing just the right button, but I wasn't aware....
I cannot find how to do this again? How can I get the MDA-Compact to operate in speakermode using the built-in speaker?
I'm searching this (and other forums) quite a while now, but I cannot find my solution?!
Any help will be very much appreciated!
Thanks,
Igor.
Speakerphone..
To turn on the speakerphone part press the Green call button whilst in the call for 5 secs or so.....
I updated my Jam and now it's all ok
Hi all.
My Imate Jam have the front speaker with some kind of problem... When using it as Mobile Phone I can speak but I cannot hear the other person because the volume is tooooooooo low. I think it's a hardware problem after some times it felt on the ground.
I understand that the front speak sends the phone sound and the back speaker sends the media (mp3, video, etc) sound... Is this correct?
Lets assume this is correct and my front speaker is broken. Can I send the phone sound (voice) to the back speaker and use it like a "hands-free" phone?
ThankS!
Just press the green phonebutton for 2 à 3 secs and voilà you use the back speaker.
But now for another question: where to find some replacement speaker?
It starts being irrtating that a the people in the room in wich i am calling can hear the whole conversation :x
Someones got a clue? I opened my phone already to clean the speakerconnections according a helpfile form this site, but nothing happened!
THANKS for the tip!! So simple!!! Very thanks.
I couldnt find a replacement... I live in Brazil and doesnt have support for Imate here.
Can you send me link to the post that explains how to open to try to clean mine??
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26370&highlight=speaker+nokia
In the lower part one guy claims the speaker is the same as on certain Nokia devices. You should easily be able to find replacement speakers for those Nokia devices (or salvage a defective one from ebay where the speaker is functional).
Hope it helps.
Or buy a cheap BT earpiece. Got one yesterday for just €25 from Vivanco. Till Now it works fine & no big phone in your hands as well
Regards, M
I bought a HS850 BT from Motorola and works fine... But I like having choices... I will try to open it and check the speaker.
Thanks for all the tips!!!
I already tried a nokia 6600 speaker but that one is bigger than the phonespeaker .I think he ment that it fits as the rearspeaker, but Im not sure on that (didn`t pay attention on that, though my rearspeaker is fine).
I think I will go for a stereo bleutooth headset, because Orange thinks that it maybe will cost me over 100€
Whoah! Back up there!
SOrry about the interruption to this thread, but did I read that you can have the phone-call sound seperate to the mp3 output?
I need to have the phonecalls on bluetooth and tomtom instructions from the speaker AT THE SAME TIME.
Does anyone know if this is possible? I tried it on a XDAIIs earlier this year, but failed miserably.
The same problem occurred with a phone I just bought on EBay.
And I just found the solution elsewhere on this Forum.
Remove your SD card and the problem is solved. At least for me it is solved.
I don't know if it will work in your case or not.
Good luck.
Jeff
Just done it today after reading this thread, my I-Mate Jam internal earpiece (only used to hear callers in phone conversations) has been out of action since it went a bit flakey six months ago, been using headset and handsfree ever since! First I didn't want to send it to the UK service depot for fear I'd be without it for months, and then I couldn't find my proof of purchase!
I opened it up about a month ago to find the earpiece speaker had died, but I couldn't find a replacement anywhere. After reading this message though I thought I'd check the speaker in my old Nokia 6600, and lo-and-behold, it was identical!
My Jam is now working again as good as new, and the donor Nokia will hopefully be back on it's feet when the sub-£5 replacement comes from the ebay shop!
Thanks all who've contributed to this post!
Leef3
I have to say, I have had pretty much every PDA phone from the PDA2k up through to this new AmeO.
My thoughts:
I love the AmeO but it has one major problem for me. You cannot use it as a standard telephone. Compare it to the UNI. Phone rings, u push the answer button and you hold it to your ear and talk away in privacy.
With the AmeO, you have to A) crack it open and push the answer button, B) slam it back together again, C) turn the volume down so the rest of the town cant here the caller, and D) look pretty ridiculous holding a brick against your ear.
I have to say, I couldn't give a toss about ppl laughing at me for holding a brick to my ear if they couldn't here what my caller was saying.
My honest opinion is it is an amazing device with some pretty amazing features, but as a telephone it's a no no. I'm going to keep it, of course, but my main phone is going to be the ETEN X800 when I can find somewhere to buy it from.
Thanks for listening
alanplum said:
I have to say, I have had pretty much every PDA phone from the PDA2k up through to this new AmeO.
My thoughts:
I love the AmeO but it has one major problem for me. You cannot use it as a standard telephone. Compare it to the UNI. Phone rings, u push the answer button and you hold it to your ear and talk away in privacy.
With the AmeO, you have to A) crack it open and push the answer button, B) slam it back together again, C) turn the volume down so the rest of the town cant here the caller, and D) look pretty ridiculous holding a brick against your ear.
I have to say, I couldn't give a toss about ppl laughing at me for holding a brick to my ear if they couldn't here what my caller was saying.
My honest opinion is it is an amazing device with some pretty amazing features, but as a telephone it's a no no. I'm going to keep it, of course, but my main phone is going to be the ETEN X800 when I can find somewhere to buy it from.
Thanks for listening
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you can always just use a BT headset, work perfectly for me
Exactly what I am doing now, but I would still like to be able to hold it to my ear.
One little speaker and the ability to use it (Rather than always loudspeaker) would make this the largest perfect device. PS battery life is excellent.
Dunno how I'm gonna fit both this and an X800 in my pocket
do u think the solution to this probelm is possible , reg hack or ???
BT Headset
I use a Jabra BT800 headset with caller display and call list, voice dial, etc functions..... Works perfectly for me and was only £30 delivered from a uk seller on ebay
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
It sounds like for what you desire, someone would have to write a program to do that. If there was a program that did that, I would be interested in trying it out.
basically you have to accept the fact that its JUST TOO BIG
to ever be used as a conventional phone.
After I took ONE call on mine , i went straight out and bought a headset and its much better than using any phone which i loathe to do anyway.
I dont think of my athena as a phone , its a mini laptop that can make phone calls, you have to accept that or get another phone
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
i understand your dilemma but the only other real solution i can think of is to use a wired headset, it has better outgoing sound quality and you don't need to charge it.
Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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Thanks to all for the quick replies.
Irus, I tried the wired headset for a while, but always had trouble with trying to both check to see who was calling and get the headset untangled and in my ear before the call went to voicemail. Tried a couple of the retractable headsets, but they broke pretty quickly.
Olipro, um never heard the term "bellend" before, but I think I have a pretty good idea what it means And, well, I guess the answer is, "Yes, I *really* do." I know it will look strange, but I personally am even less fond of the bluetooth headset look (I know most here will TOTALLY disagree with that, just my opinion).
Anyway, I realize that the hardware is far from ideal for this, but I think the right side speaker (though pointed in the wrong direction) would be right at my ear if I were speaking into the mic. Olipro, you say the speakers are way too loud. Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
What do you say, Olipro? If it wouldn't take too much time away from your much anticipated rom cooking, would you consider working some of your magic to help me "humiliate" myself "in public" I'd even gladly send you pics of myself in the act of "bellendizing" myself afterwards.
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If you are so desprate to use the athena this way, I think the safest and easiest way is to put adhesive tape over the speaker holes to muffle the sound, and then punch a few holes in one to your liking
You could Just superglue it to the side of your face
you really will have to face the fact that you may have to develop this programme yourself if you wish to use the ameo as a normal handset - i use the term loosely - the problem with it is that whilst the ameo is the coolest gadget going as a mini pc, it is the most embarrassing thing in the world to press against your face, and also leaves you open to a VERY easy snatch if you get it out in public. And yes people who look like bellends are more susceptible to street crime. That's a fact, i'm sure of it. I chose my ameo knowing of its failings and devised my own solution of using it for data purposes only with wifi or a bluetooth dialup connection to my phone, which in turn i use for making calls and texting. Other people use bluetooth headsets and seem to get along with them fine. Until a kaiser quality device with a vga screen comes out i am happy to accept the ameos inconveniences and love it for what it is.
evermore said:
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.....Are you saying that they aren't capable of producing softer sound? I just assumed that they could be set to a lower volume. Is it actually a qualitatively different type of speaker and sound? (I'm honestly asking.)
Can a program be written to mute the left speaker and drastically reduce the volume of the right speaker on calls when in "handset" mode?
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You might want to try PocketZenPhone, a software that does profiles for the phone. It is an on-going project and the developper handles requests which he incorporates into the soft. It might just be a case of developing another profile for you called "semi-mute" or something .
Or just stick with a BT headset, like the rest of us.
Thanks very much, Abram. Will check that out.
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
hdubli,
what do you mean when you say "reduce the in call volume to zero"? Do you just mean moving the slider all the way to the bottom? For me, that's still pretty loud. I can hear it easily well away from my ear. Or, do you mean something else? Thanks.
evermore said:
I have no idea if this is possible, but I'd love to be able to use my athena as a handset, not just a speakerphone. I know it's huge, but I've had my device for three months and am still not happy with the headset solution. I've tried the popular jabra, jawbone, and lg style-I options, but don't like having to carry and charge another device, or wearing a headset (even just for calls), and although it's not awful, the sound quality (especially outgoing) often just isn't good enough for business calls.
What I'd like to do, if it could be done, is come up with a makeshift handset mode where the left speaker is turned off and the lowest setting for the phone volume could be much softer (so that the whole room doesn't have to hear the incoming sound). I don't know if it would be necessary to adjust the mic gain down any, but I don't think so.
The ideal solution would have something akin to a phone profile setting that would allow me to toggle between the default speakerphone setting and the new handset settings. But, it would be acceptable even if I had to just stay in handset mode (maybe with the ability to just turn up the call volume to have a mono speakerphone).
I am a total novice here, but is there a way to hack the registry (or better yet, some audio manager app) to change the balance settings on the speakers and to decrease the lowest possible volume settings for the phone?
Of course, I'd probably carry the device without the keyboard so that I didn't have to take it off and put it somehwere every time a call came in.
Is anyone else wanting something like this? Can anyone help? If I'm just nuts, please be kind in saying so
Thanks.
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well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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The originator of the 'bellend' jibe just happens to be the man who devised a working CID and SIM unlock solution for this device: he would have been somewhat ancapacitated if his laptop had been glued shut.
I think that the use of such informal and slightly crude words as "bellend" is acceptable given the incorrigable nature of the problem: the idea of pressing a mini pc up against your face is crude in itself.
Given that I used to believe I could make a flying machine out of a monopoly board, a leather jacket and a tricycle, perhaps the same naive 4 year old might have thought it possible to turn a handset large enough to eat a ploughman's lunch off into a pocketable handset. I've grown up a little since then, and I use the Ameo for what it does best, rather than trying to make it into something it isn't.
YES I remember BIG phones. I also remember BBC Microcomputers, Shellsuits and televisions with teak surrounds but fortunately I've seen fit to move on since then, and find them a little embarrassing now.
If members wish to inform other members of the fruitlessness of their ideas then I don't think this is a problem (particularly if these members [Olipro] have a track record and know EXACTLY what they are talking about): the solutions of course are obvious and oft-discussed: bluetooth headset; turn volume down and press against ear; or don't use it as a phone at all.
Maybe you can't have your cake AND eat it.
johnmcavoy said:
well I think evermore had a very good and valid question to ask,I too have just bought the same phone and I too am faced with exactly the same problem. I don't mind walking around with this phone in my hands holding it to my ear,if anyone wants to try and grab it,good luck to them,I would trash it first and them second. But what really P****D me off with the replies to this posting was the number of muppets who couldn't come up with a constructive and helpful answer to this problem. OBVIOUSLY they are used to little girlie phones and don't remember the old days of BIG phones or their limited intelligence doesn't allow them to post a constructive reply, and as for the comment of "bellend" well I am surprised the originator managed to find the internet,let alone use a mobile phone!!
So if there is some intelligence out there for us novices,please lets read it,otherwise use the superglue to permanently glue your laptop shut
John
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Feel better now? ;-)
Olipro said:
erm... it could possibly be done.
However: the speaker(s) on it are clearly not usable as the kind that would permit you to humiliate yourself by having it to your ear; they're too loud for that and in the wrong place.
However, it should be possible to make some sort of speakerphone mode (like with video calling) that you can just talk into the mic with.
the question is, do you *really* want to make yourself look like that big a bellend in public?
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Yes, I would like to request a hack for the phone so I can make myself look foolish and like a big bellend (whatever that means) in public.
I don't think I can look either foolish or like a bellend...no matter what I do. I just got it like that. LOL ;-p
I may even start a new trend. he he he
Hi to all and hope you guys are having a great day! YEA BABY!!!
hdubli said:
Guys,
I have been using Athena as a normal phone.Reduce the in call volume to zero and yes u can talk like a normal phone.If u are in very quiet environment, then fellows might listen what u r talking,but in any normal circumstances no one can hear what u are talking and eventhough the incall volume is zero, orther person can hear.Looks like HTC made an alternative arrangement, but any way it works fabulously
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Quite frankly, this works with me, if I feel like holding the x7500 to my head. Of course, the call volume you hear depends on how good your hearing is, so YMMV. I find myself using a BT when I'm around others, either the LG Style-I or the Jawbone. (I'm eyeing the Jabra BT 8010 also). But the bottom line is you can use the x7500 as a handset this way if that's your preference.
Perfect solution!!!
Okay, get ready for this guys!
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution.
Hope this helps someone ;-)
http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
Ok, ok...all kidding aside, one of the coders may want to write something to make this possible. I would use it. I've been caught without my headset before and didn't want to answer the phone because there were people around me. This is a good backup solution and I would use it as that...a backup i ncase my headset battery went out (even though I have a spare headset) and in case I forgot my headset at home....GOD forbid!
ltxda said:
I found a perfect solution for everyone wanting to use the Athena like a regular phone. It'll take a little bit of work but it seems to be worth it. Check out the project site I found. It enables you to make the Athena or ANY other cell phone work like a regular phone. Just need to adjust the instructions for the Athena and it looks like we have ourselves a real solution. http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-handset.shtml
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I love it! My only suggstion is the guy in the picture needs to ditch his hat in favor of the tin foil model with the built-in antenna.
I'm sure theres a couple of people who are expericing the same problem.'
anyways who here experience this
If you place the phone on your right ear to talk, the other side experience fade in and out voices. Alot of my callers say they cannot hear me if I hold the phone on my right right
but if I switch to the left ear they hear me crystal clear. anyone expericing this?
+1 here.
i suspect it's because the design, the position of the mic (the one receives our voices) get easily covered when in your right hand (partially if not whole) and it just can't pick up our voice.
yeah thats sad. I hope they do something about that such as if its detected in right ear it cancel that second speaker.
+1 my peoples hate my new phone... they say i sound like iam in a tin box... then they hang up on me!!!
same here whenever I use the speaker..sucks!!
I have this same problem. I use the phone on my right and people say I get super quiet.
Then I switch the phone to the left and it's fine, but after like a minute my voice goes down to super quiet and I have to switch again.
Hmph.