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What is the best XDA2 cradle for the car?

Im looking at getting a cradle for my XDA2 so that i can view it in the car. i would prefer one that i could attach an optional charge cable too but dont want to have it trailing around my car permanently. i was wondering what all you enlightened peeps would recommend for use. are there any to avoid?
Cheers

I have just got this week a perfect mount for the XDA II, but it is a mount only - you need to sort out your own cables..
It's a slightly modified magnetic mount: It has a goosneck , a sucker at one end and a magnet with soft bed a the other. You attach the sucker to your windscreen.
The idea is you attach a steel pad to the back of your unit, and then it will stick to the magnetic soft bed; but I didn't do this... I got a 50mm sqaure piece of thin magetic metal (0.5 mm). this fits snugly on the inside of the unit between the back case and the battery! It still sticks to the magnetic bed, but my unit looks the same as it always did! Looks really tidy in the car (no chunky levers and arms) My XDA- looks the same, it holds it very well. and it only cost me £15
The magnet nor the metal plate have any noticable effect on the XDA.
I bought the magnetic mount from eBay
the metal came from a friend, but there various sources...

I use a Brodit carholder for my XDA 2 (Qtek 2020). It works great!!!
http://www.brodit.com/
http://w3.easytrade.net/brodit_shop/product.dip?item=1216061&fid=1216452
They also have ProClip which is designed for each car model, where you mount the carholder.

I use a Carcomm XDAII holder, it also has RS232 Serial & PS/2 ports on the cradle, great for a GPS mouse, www.carcomm.nl .
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I think the perfect for XDA is this
there are millons of good car mount solutions for PDAs, but for XDA in perticualr, i think this is the best, becuase it gives your the maximum view on xda's LCD, especailly when you use your XDA as in Car GPS navigator.
it's on SALE here at Ebay together with GPS Kit for all you need for a trable free in-Car Navigation system.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5117448278&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
thanks

If you use the forum search feature with "car kits" you will find other options including photos of the unit I have as well as others.

I'd love to buy the Carcomm unit, but who sells it? Their site doesn't let you buy. Any ideas on a vendor in the US, or one that will ship here?
Also, does that unit have a speaker, or just power and GPS? What's the GPS interface (PS/2, DB9, etc)?

TotalPDA www.totalpda.co.uk sell them here in the UK, see here, and they do offer an international order facility. The unit doesn't have a built-in speaker but the interfaces are:
12vpower
1 x RS232 DB9
1 x PS/2
They also sell PS/2 adapter leads for the most popular GPS Mice such as Leadtek, Holux etc. I have a review of the iPAQ version on-line here. They're very high quality cradles, coupled with a Safety Clip you can mount the cradle in-car without needing to drill any holes.
I'm also a big fan of Brodit Cradles, they have an XDAII model and have ProClip mount solutions for most vehicles, the US Website is www.proclipusa.com and the EU one is www.brodit.com .

Very helpful, thanks! The Carcomm looks great, just wish it had audio. It's down to that or the "official" car kit, but... Anyone know if the i-mate Car Kit has provision for GPS? I called Expansys, and they said they *think* it does not, but weren't sure. Also, any provision for radio mute on any of these?
Also, are all the PS/2 style GPS connectors the same? I have a Deluo unit, which doesn't seem to be listed on any of the compatibility lists.

I can't answer the question re I-Mate Car-kits GPS connector but I believe they do offer a radio mute. However the audio output only works for the Phone Side so GPS Nav Instructions and other PDA audio is not sent through the audio output
AFAIK, PS/2 is a standard but you'd ned to confirm the Deluo's suitability with Carcomm.

bij brodit zijn er verschillende mogelijkheden
Belgen kunnen hiervoor altijd terecht op xanthes.com

The Brodit site doesn't seem to contain any info re prices, that I can see...
I want one for my Mini Cooper, and I presume that if you select the model number for the mini mount and then the xda2 cradle, you're away.
Does anyone have any price info?
Cheers
Anthony

I should charge Brodit commission , in the UK the appointed reseller is Handnav www.handnav.co.uk, theor website has pricing for the different types.

Thank you.
Very informative peeps. just need to make the decision on which one to get now .

My kingdom for a proper cradle...
I want GPS input, a speaker/mic, and drop-in simplicity. Too much to ask for, apparently. I can either wait for one of the upcoming models, or buy one now which is missing one of those features.

The best carkit for the QT2020 or MDAII is now being sold at Yeti; Site is in Dutch, but with pics.
Url:
http://www.yeti.nl/nieuws_040622_01carkit2020.htm
ALthough it is in The Netherlands it's worth a try to contact them if they ship to the UK.
€185 ex VAT.
Some features:
A total solution for the QTek 2020;
handsfree
Plays navigation intructions
Plays from the Windows Media Player
stereo line out
mute-signal for radio/cd-player
12 volts switches off after 1 hour; handy for GPS
one click to attach and de-attach
GPS connector
External antenna connector
Comes with a high quality speaker and mic
audio connector; plays telephonecalls, instructions and MP3 over your carspeakers (if radio has an audio in)

Sounds like exactly what I want! Now, does it really exist, and how the hell do you buy it? I didn't see a purchase button.

Look for the sentence: Klik hier om de carkit te bestellen. Just above the picture.
Translated: press here to order the carkit. And click on the word: "hier" in the sentence.

Hmm, it's a "contact" link, not actually a purchase button. Bet this thing doesn't actually exist... But I'm giving it a try, hopefully someone there speaks English.

Re: I think the perfect for XDA is this
xdapartsfromTW said:
there are millons of good car mount solutions for PDAs, but for XDA in perticualr, i think this is the best, becuase it gives your the maximum view on xda's LCD, especailly when you use your XDA as in Car GPS navigator.
it's on SALE here at Ebay together with GPS Kit for all you need for a trable free in-Car Navigation system.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5117448278&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
thanks
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Not that I don't trust you matey, but has anyone else got something similar and does it work well? Seems a bit cheap considering.
Also, would such a setup constitute a cradle and therefore deemed safe and legal under UK law. I heard somewhere that if the phone is not in what is designated a cradle then it's not classed as a hands free unit??
Thoughts? Ideas?
Anthony

PLz recomend Bluetooth GPS and Cradles for jasjar ?

I notice a lot of you seem to have GPS up and running on jasjar.
I had tottom running on my xda2 with backpack and CF GPS receiver, but as I could not use the CF GPS with JJ, I sold it with my xda along with my car cradle which was a window mount and I am hoping to find/install something a little sturdier (worried about the weight).
So please give me some ideas on a GPS receiver working with JJ and any thoughts on car cradles.
Cheers, Numb

Your best bet would be to purchase a Bluetooth GPS receiver. There are plenty of them going around but the best one imo is the HOLUX GPSlim-236. It is based on the SIRFstar III chip which means it picks up more satellites and has a better connectivity. There are other SIRFstar III compliant BT GPS like Globalsat and the likes but the GPSlim-236 is the smallest and the lightest.
Regarding cradles for the JJ, there are many options again, but since it is rather "weighty", i suggest you buy a cradle that can be stuck or screwed onto your dashboard. I have seen the Dicota cradle which has this option and is pretty cheap too, about 15 quid if i am not mistaken.
Have fun searching!

universaldoc said:
Regarding cradles for the JJ, there are many options again, but since it is rather "weighty", i suggest you buy a cradle that can be stuck or screwed onto your dashboard.
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Actually, there are probably less than one might think. The HTC Universal has it's USB/Power connector on it's SIDE, which is where the left "arm" of most cradles grip onto it. This means you're going to have issues powering the device from the car cigarette ligher socket. I'm looking for a cradle at the moment with "arms" that are quite high up...

Oh right! I completely forgot about that. My bad! I guess we will just haveta wait and see. Maybe you can email Arkon or Dicota and see if they can come up with something.

Numb said:
I notice a lot of you seem to have GPS up and running on jasjar.
I had tottom running on my xda2 with backpack and CF GPS receiver, but as I could not use the CF GPS with JJ, I sold it with my xda along with my car cradle which was a window mount and I am hoping to find/install something a little sturdier (worried about the weight).
So please give me some ideas on a GPS receiver working with JJ and any thoughts on car cradles.
Cheers, Numb
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I emailed Brodit (www.brodit.com) a few days ago and got a reply saying the will have powered mounts available at the end of the month

TT BT GPS works fine
You can use it with Arkon support, I did, you just have to put the power cord side up.

sl9 said:
universaldoc said:
Regarding cradles for the JJ, there are many options again, but since it is rather "weighty", i suggest you buy a cradle that can be stuck or screwed onto your dashboard.
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Actually, there are probably less than one might think. The HTC Universal has it's USB/Power connector on it's SIDE, which is where the left "arm" of most cradles grip onto it. This means you're going to have issues powering the device from the car cigarette ligher socket. I'm looking for a cradle at the moment with "arms" that are quite high up...
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But if you rotated the JJ 90degrees so the usb connector is at the bottom that orientation would be nice to drop/slot into a dash mounted, basestation, that above the steeringwheel would be below my windscreen and be quite tasty for TT5, only issue then would be landscape map, which imo is slightly less revealing for the road ahead.
It could simply be velcro attached onto the dash reducing mounting issues, and you can easily make it cableless by making a hole in the dash underneath for the cable to pass through before arriving at the ciggly socket.

The destinator 3 with Globalsat BT 338 bluetooth gps receiver works well with the jasjar.....as for the cradle i bought mine from ebay and modified the two arms that olds the jasjar in place so it sits in place safely without falling off just incase i hit a big bump on the road and suddenly jumps out....i'll post a pic soon...its also a suction type holder and does not vibrate like the other pda holders.....it works well on portrait and also when the pda is on the landscape mode as the holder is adjustable.....as for the usb port, this is exactly placed under the arms of the holder so its not obstructing at all...

ok here are the pics for my jasjar cradle....
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I too have a Holux Slim 236 and it is very good. I would definitely recommend it.
I have not yet bought a car mount cradle for my JasJar. Until now I've been using a powered mount with built in amplified speaker for my BlueAngel from Silver Shield. I am that they will produce a similar one for the JasJar.
I think it would be brilliant if they came up with a cradle that can hold the JasJar with the flip open so you can actually use the keyboard on it with TomTom if you want to.

Hi irv777
Could you specify what is the make of the holder you used and maybe also where on ebay you bought it ??
Cheers

i had to modify part of the arms to hold the jasjar in place as per shown in the above pics..... but u can get them on ebay or on the website www.online-electronics.com.au also try looking at this other holder i came accross as it might be a little bit better..... http://www.thepocketsolution.com/Me...egory_Code=jasjar_accessories&Product_Count=7

The holder from pocketpcsolutions.com looks like side arms will cover usb socket & therefor you wont be able to charge it.
Regards
Colin Bate

I use an Arkon powered mount, its really good because it uses stanadard USB ports to power everything, so all you need is the standard USB cable, it also has an additional output for charging almost any BT GPS adaptor.
PS it also has a built in amp and speaker
and it fits perfectly
http://www.arkon.com/imgs_site/thumb_cm720.jpg

ice_coffee,
Are you using HTC Universal with that Arcon holder? Because if I ook at the pic it looks like the side grips will cover the USB port since it is on the side of the HTC Universal

irv777,
Thanx for the links looks good, I think it is going to be one of those two.
Although on the site of Arkon http://www.arkon.com/
Look at the Car holder for PSP it is horisontal and looks pretty steady, Question is if the Universal will fit in it ?

Yes I have a universal, these pics I have uploaded should answer all your questions, I originally bought mine for my HP2110 but it fits perfectly. However if you do get one you will have to get your own standard USB sync and charge cable or wait for arcon to officially release it.
PS I forgot to mention I have a window sucker but its fine (ie it does not fall off ~ especially if the sucker is a bit wet)

Thanx mate...
I have just realised that I can also use the Landskape Left Hnaded and then all is good with my existing holder.
You just saved me aroung 25-30 Euros
Cheers

Prophet and headphones?

Hello.. Anyone in here who has managed to find a solution to this problem?
The stock headset is very anoying IMO (The ones that came with the Qtek S200 package).
Therefore I bought a small microjack(male)-to-minijack(famle) adapter.
But when I tried to use this together with my old headphones (which use minijack) I only got sound in my left side.
Im guesing that it has to do with the fact that there is both R,L and Mic channels in the microjack port, and that they are placed in an order, in which the normal R,L microjack, will not connect to the R and L in the port!
Is this correct? And what to do about it?
Thanks

Reef, there are lots of problems with using these adapters, the connection is not steady.
It is suggested to use an adapter that has a wire between the input and output.

I use one without any problems and I get sound in bothe L and R. I am using Radio Shack adapter.

I use one without any problems and I get sound in both L and R. I am using Radio Shack adapter.

I got two
1) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=9107022610&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT
2) I mod the XDAiis ones, strangely, it works with my Cassette adapter full stereo. When I use my earphones, it only has right side.

acer175 said:
Reef, there are lots of problems with using these adapters, the connection is not steady.
It is suggested to use an adapter that has a wire between the input and output.
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I have several different adapters. Some of them don't make a good connection and I only get one channel (off and on). I ordered this one to use with my navigation system in the car...it has a rock solid connection and a mic! I might add that they sell Martin Fields screen protectors too. http://doml.com/productdec.asp?pid=2149&model=818p&modeln=i-Mate JAMin

http://www.tangshop.com/25mm-to-35mm-adapter.html
Works for me.
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yep, those types are good.
I'm guessing Reef has the compact ones, without a wire between the male and female.

I'm guessing Reef has the compact ones, without a wire between the male and female.
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Exactly.. But the thing is that it works perfectly when i pull i 1mm out and bend it a bit to the left.. Then there is sound in both channals..
I also bought a microjack male with no wires on it, so I gues i can try to make my own.. Just need some wire, some tools and a female minijack..
But did anyone of you know which band is the mic band? The top, middle or bottom? Cause I don't wanna waste any more money..

This is the one I have:
http://www.proshop.dk/ShowProduct.aspx?prodid=34468
Doesn't work..!

Headset
I smashed the headset that came with my 818 Pro in a car door and ruined it. I have been trying to find a replacement that is a better design (that stays on when I run), but have had no luck. I thought I had it in the Jabra C220s. This is a horribly designed product. They actually went out of their way to make it so that it will only play in the left ear when plugged into the PPC / phone. If you use the included adapter it works in stereo, but then the plug is 3.5 mm.
Has anybody found a decent pair of headphones with the microphone to work with the prophet? I imagine any 2.5 mm jacked PPC / Smartphone would be the same.
Thank you.
Tom

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tdaly001 said:
I smashed the headset that came with my 818 Pro in a car door and ruined it. I have been trying to find a replacement that is a better design (that stays on when I run), but have had no luck. I thought I had it in the Jabra C220s. This is a horribly designed product. They actually went out of their way to make it so that it will only play in the left ear when plugged into the PPC / phone. If you use the included adapter it works in stereo, but then the plug is 3.5 mm.
Has anybody found a decent pair of headphones with the microphone to work with the prophet? I imagine any 2.5 mm jacked PPC / Smartphone would be the same.
Thank you.
Tom
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Dopod makes a nice pair of earbuds made to work with all HTC devices and includes a mic. Sold separately, of course. :roll:
Perhaps you can find them where you got your 818pro?

The ideal solution is to dismantle the mic piece (where there's the mic and the headphone wires coming out), unsolder the stock headphones and solder a pair of headphones of your choice. There's a lot of info about this in the Magician forum.
The second option, as Acer mentioned, would be to use the ones with the wire between the 2.5mm male and the 3.5mm female.

i use one without wire and there are no problem at all

I use an adaptor similar to stories, and it works great.
have to say tho, the socket in the Prophet is a bit loose. No big deal tho.

yup...the headset port @ HTC Prophet is a _bit_ loose, so you've got a chance to unplug by accident...
anyway, i also use a 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter, and connected into Senheiser PX100. it's sound good!!!

Trinity 3.5mm USB audio adapter

Hi guys,
I'm hoping to use my P3600 as an mp3 player, but what I'm wondering is which miniUSB to 3.5mm adapter is the best?
The one with a lead....
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or the one without?....
[images from ebay]

anyone? surely someone must use their trinity as an mp3 device

I'm using the Y-cable available at expansys.com, and it works fine, because you can charge your phone at the same time that you hear music through the 3,5mm headphone. It also works fine connected to my living room hi-fi.

i've used one similar to the top pic for more than a year without any problems!

i've buy the first adapter from brando's shop

Does the adapter fall out easily? The usb socket doesn't seem very errrr grippy lol

Just bought (online) the first one, will post review later on.

I use the y shaped one as it allows me to play mp3's and gps directions through my car stereo as well as charging the device at the same time.

charlle said:
Just bought (online) the first one, will post review later on.
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Working great.

I'd be most interested in an adapter with microphone breakout as well as
headphones - then I could use it as a hard disk audio recorder!
cheers
simon

No mic over USB?
simonastro said:
I'd be most interested in an adapter with microphone breakout as well as
headphones - then I could use it as a hard disk audio recorder!
cheers
simon
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Hi,
I don't believe that the mini USB jack has a mic in signal there. However, I might be wrong - are there any headsets that are wired and that provide in AND out capabilities? If yes, and one works at the TRIN, it should be possible.
IsiT_de...

IsiT_de said:
Hi,
I don't believe that the mini USB jack has a mic in signal there. However, I might be wrong - are there any headsets that are wired and that provide in AND out capabilities? If yes, and one works at the TRIN, it should be possible.
IsiT_de...
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Hi ,
I hope that it will help for you ( only for own risk ! ) .
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config

IsiT_de said:
Hi,
I don't believe that the mini USB jack has a mic in signal there. However, I might be wrong - are there any headsets that are wired and that provide in AND out capabilities? If yes, and one works at the TRIN, it should be possible.
IsiT_de...
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My dopod d810 came with a wired hands free kits which plugs into the USB port, and provides stereo ear buds as well as a pod that has a button (for answer and hangup(?)) and a mic on it....
didnt you get one as well?

@nerd1
Hi,
I don't believe I got anything like that with mine. Maybe I should check the package again?
However, obviously, there are all necessary connectors avilable. Good!
IsiT_de...

expansys now has usb adapter by htc. converts 'special' miniusb into 2.5mm, 3.5mm, and 'special' miniusb + a miniusb for recharging + mic. it works great , $20

HTC Sedna and Tomtom

Hi,
Have someone any idea about using Tomtom with the Sedna integrated GPS ?
Thanks.

My p6500 from orange works fine with tomtom 6 using the internal gps. Also I-go 8 works fine too.

I got TomTom 5.21 working with no problem.

Same here Tomtom v6 works a treat

I have Tomtom 6, and I can't see how to connect to the built-in gps receiver, how do I do this?
I've tried:
Change preferences > Show GPS Status > configure and the available options are:
TomTom Bluetooth GPS receiver
TomTom wired GPs receiver
Other Bluetooth GPS receiver
Other NMEA GPS receiver
But none of these work. Currently, 'Other Bluetooth GPS receiver' works with my external one, but if I could use the built-in one it would be much nicer. One less thing sliding around on the dashboard!
On the subject of GPS, what's that quickGPS all about? The manual says very little about it.

xmastree, use Other NMEA GPS receiver, then pick the correct one, on my Orange M700 it is GPS in COM9, I think the Sedna is different, my trial unit went back months ago. You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
I liked quickGPS. Normally a GPS chip only knows about the local satellites where the chip is manufactured, in this case Taiwan, and does not know where to look in the sky for sats good for the UK the first time you use it. It can take up to 2 hours before you get lock. quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.

woodvale said:
You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
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Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.
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Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.

xmastree said:
Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.
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You're welcome. I was quoting my Orange M700 settings on WM5 AKU3, the Sedna was WM6 and I trialled it about 4 months ago, don't expect me to remember the detail.
Did not spot the 7 day quickGPS refresh on mine, but I would not think this would be a lot of traffic, they're aren't many GPS satellites!

Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I was stationary at the time.
Comparing the built-in one and my external bluetooth receiver:
No contest really, is it?
And here I am, supersonic, somewhere over the North sea. I was actually in Kirkham, Lancashire.

xmastree said:
Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I've been using an Orange M700 (HTC 3600 [Trinity]) WM5 AKU3 for almost a year now with the same GPS chip as in the Sedna (HTC P6500) with no ill effects. Only downside is it is a bit slow to lock, sometimes 60 seconds, but once locked is fine. Initially it was in a screen sucker cradle but my cig socket for the power is mounted in a centre console level with the back of the drivers seat so the coiled cable was constantly springing out so I switched to putting the unit in the drinks holder way BELOW and underneath the dashboard in my personal car where you would not expect good signal but it is not a problem in all driving conditions.
We recently bought 35 Sednas and I have 3 deployed now in a live pilot not using cradles and only one suffers. His company car has a metallised screen (to cut UV radiation, a Picasso) which also stops the GPS signal. There is a small area of the screen not screened just behind the rearview mirror where we have the existing external GPS receiver that was used to supply his previous PDA cradle that did not have GPS. We will be re-fitting this to a new cradle due to be fitted in the next few days. The other 2 units have no problems, but are different cars.
I took my base build sedna on the road over the weekend in my own car without UV screening and it was as good as the M700. I even put it on the passenger seat and on the floor, still good as gold.
So I think it is your car that is the problem, you'll have to use an external GPS antenna, unless ............. My previous trial P6500 was WM6.0 but that also worked fine in my same car as now, the new ones are WM6.1, but I doubt it.
Regards QuickGPS 7 day refresh, now I have the P6500 back, it is a waste of time, you only need to sync once in the UK after a hard reset. QuickGPS was not available on the M700 so I couldn't comment before. I synced my base build P6500 2 months ago once, used it in the image to be burned on the 35 new ones and they've all picked up fine in practice.

Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.

xmastree said:
Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.
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Ask your Peugeot dealer about the screen (and side windows). I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door. I would not expect a GPS receiver to lock in these conditions, or at least be very slow and freeze, how the hell is it going to lock onto 5 simultaneous satellites with no line of sight in a car, especially if all the windows have UV screening?
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.

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I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door.
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It's not below the dash, it's on top, in clear view from above.
FWIW, during a rather 'spirited' launch this morning, the bluetooth receiver ended up in the passenger footwell and still got a better signal.
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.
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Not sure about that. The bluetooth receiver has the GPS chip in it whereas an external antenna plugged into the PDA will just pick up the satellite signals and feed them to the PDA's gps chip.

Sygic
Took tomtom off my Sedna and installed the latest Sygic v824.
Could not make iGo8 to work.

Took tomtom of my Sedna and installed Sygic latest v824.
Tried to install iGO8 but the phone keeps getting stuck.