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How long does your battery last?

I've had my phone for ages now, and the battery seemed to start draining very quickly. I swapped to a new battery, but that didnt fix it, then I reflashed Rom and Radio just in case -
Only thing is I cant remember how long it used to last
I get about 24 hours when its not doing anything (no wifi gps screen not on, no music - pure standby) - is that normal? I'm sure I used to get more
if its not - what should I get, and have you any ideas what it could be - (hardware?)

battery life on my Trinity far exceeds yours, and I think your problem may be the Radio version.
I use mine for GPS on Golf Course, and could easily get 18 holes out of it with my original Radio ver 1.38.00.11 ...
I then upgraded to ver 1.56.70.11, which according to the forum is a far better version, and with good battery life.
not so in my case, I could only get through 14 holes, and have now reverted back to my original one.

I must admit, I used to get much better battery life out of my original radio but upgraded to 1.56 cos everyone else says it's great.
I might downgrade to see if it sorts out my battery problems. I thought it was just cos I was playing with it a lot more these days.

I think my battery life shortened all of a sudden - I'm testing it against a mates,
My cameras stopped working now - I've read some threads but had no luck with solutions (taking battery out for 15 mins etc) any ideas anyone

carkev said:
battery life on my Trinity far exceeds yours, and I think your problem may be the Radio version.
I use mine for GPS on Golf Course, and could easily get 18 holes out of it with my original Radio ver 1.38.00.11 ...
I then upgraded to ver 1.56.70.11, which according to the forum is a far better version, and with good battery life.
not so in my case, I could only get through 14 holes, and have now reverted back to my original one.
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Ok, this has eaten at me for a while now. I too have a LOT less avail battery than I had a couple years ago, and I've replaced my battery with a longer lasting version.
I think it's time I try your experiment to see for myself if the radio could be the culprit. I've suspected the newer ROM releases to be the cause, but it's a little hard to believe, especially when I usually flash pretty nekkid ROMS.
I know that sometimes people see new version numbers and believe it must be better just becaue of that. I am one of those people sometimes. As we all know, newer is not always better. Do any of the following updated version numbers jump out to anybody?
Release Version File dates
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Windows 95 retail, OEM 4.00.950 7/11/95
Windows 95 retail SP1 4.00.950A 7/11/95-12/31/95
OEM Service Release 2 4.00.1111* (4.00.950B) 8/24/96
OEM Service Release 2.1 4.03.1212-1214* (4.00.950B) 8/24/96-8/27/97
OEM Service Release 2.5 4.03.1214* (4.00.950C) 8/24/96-11/18/97
Windows 98 retail, OEM 4.10.1998 5/11/98
Windows 98, Security CD 4.10.1998A
Windows 98 Second Edition 4.10.2222A 4/23/99
Windows 98 SE Security CD 4.10.2222B
Windows Me 4.90.3000 6/08/00
Windows Me Security CD 4.90.3000A

chimpsinties said:
...I thought it was just cos I was playing with it a lot more these days.
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I think it may be a combination. I know I play with the phone more than I used to when I first got it.

My battery works fine 3 daysd in pure standby and more than a day when I work with the phone.
Maybe You can try the original radio, just for a test.

My battery works fine 3 daysd in pure standby and more than a day when I work with the phone.
Maybe You can try the original radio, just for a test.

Anyone got some links to older radios?

I've got all of them in my signature. Click "Get Your ROMs Here", then "Radios"

I didn't end up trying one of the older radios but I did get my ass over to EBay and buy a new battery. I got a genuine HTC replacement for about £6.50. At first there was no difference in battery life but after a couple of cycles it's got much better now. I can usually get about 2 days out of my phone between charges. This is using it quite a lot as I get all my emails synced to the device via Google Sync.
I can recommend a new battery to give your tired old phone a new lease of life

battery time just fell off

without doing anything new my battery time just droped off the face of the earth.. its down about 75%. i was getting a full day mixed use now all of a suden im getting 6-8 hours with just a few phone calls.
my awake time is at 16%
I havent done anything new that i can think of.
im using (and have been for awhile) the mugen 1800 extended battery.
trying to think what might be doing it and cant come up with anything i havnt found in the forums already.

you probably downloaded some app that is running in the background continuously. check with a task manager to see what's running, and then try uninstalling some recent apps to test it out.

thats what i was thinking but i cant find anything new running with the task manager

kraash said:
without doing anything new my battery time just droped off the face of the earth.. its down about 75%. i was getting a full day mixed use now all of a suden im getting 6-8 hours with just a few phone calls.
my awake time is at 16%
I havent done anything new that i can think of.
im using (and have been for awhile) the mugen 1800 extended battery.
trying to think what might be doing it and cant come up with anything i havnt found in the forums already.
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Could just be a bad battery? I'm having same problem, maybe worse with stock battery. I went from 100% down to 15 in like 5 hours just reading my RSS feeds every hour or so. I think I may have fried my battery using it to tether for excessively long periods.
You're not using your phone to tether are you?

Mine is way down this week too. Initially I thought it was Swype, but not so sure anymore because no other users are reporting problems.

Are you using Modaco's rom and kernel ? or any new kernel for that matter? Ever since I switched kernels my battery hasn't made it through the day.

notrock said:
Are you using Modaco's rom and kernel ? or any new kernel for that matter? Ever since I switched kernels my battery hasn't made it through the day.
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now that you mention it this all did start happening the same timer I flashed modaco custom kernel. trying ghil's now so we'll see.

theresthatguy said:
now that you mention it this all did start happening the same timer I flashed modaco custom kernel. trying ghil's now so we'll see.
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I'm using gbhil's custom kernel and seeing BETTER battery life when used with setCPU (using ondemand setting with 'standby/sleep' profile turned on, and set to 160/480).

theresthatguy said:
Could just be a bad battery? I'm having same problem, maybe worse with stock battery. I went from 100% down to 15 in like 5 hours just reading my RSS feeds every hour or so. I think I may have fried my battery using it to tether for excessively long periods.
You're not using your phone to tether are you?
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No I'm not.. Turned a few more newer apps off and still no good today.. I was at 5% batt left after 9 hours with about 10 minutes web browsing (not wifi) 4 or 5 text messages and about 45 minutes talk time. That's down about 90% from were I was a week ago .

I managed to narrow my problem down to the Taskiller widget. Removed the widget (still running the app full time) and all is well.

Last night I rolled back to before I used a custom Kernel. I rather battery life over speed. I need my phone to last from 6am to at the very least 7pm. I think once people get over the performance boost, we'll see a lot more posts relating to battery issues.

cincij said:
Mine is way down this week too. Initially I thought it was Swype, but not so sure anymore because no other users are reporting problems.
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I did hear report Swype was killing there battery as well over at PPCGeeks. Not sure if so, but it has been mentioned

athlet1c said:
I did hear report Swype was killing there battery as well over at PPCGeeks. Not sure if so, but it has been mentioned
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might be that too, i hope not as i love that keyboard. just having it installed shouldn't drain the battery, should it? im on day 2 with the custom kernel and i too noticed more battery drain. at 1pm my hero was fully charged. i only played a bit with the phone and made two short calls and it's down to 86% already at 4pm. i want to roll back but i do like the speed of the new kernel. ill see how it does tonight.

athlet1c said:
I did hear report Swype was killing there battery as well over at PPCGeeks. Not sure if so, but it has been mentioned
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I decided to uninstall swype and I went from not being able to go a 5 hr shift to today working an 8 hours right now and I should still have little over half battery.

theresthatguy said:
I decided to uninstall swype and I went from not being able to go a 5 hr shift to today working an 8 hours right now and I should still have little over half battery.
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yeah i love swipe but i uninstalled it as well and went back to using touch input. the battery life seems better now. i hope this can be resolved.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah i love swipe but i uninstalled it as well and went back to using touch input. the battery life seems better now. i hope this can be resolved.
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Yeah going back to regular input sucks. Swype was only some leaked beta version, we don't really have right to complain; however, I bet their end product will be much better. I just hope they'll release it as an app and not as part of custom Android phone so we can get it sooner.

figured I woud resurect this thread rather than start a new one.
yesterday I decided to RUU my phone to pull the completely stock apks out of it. after I did that I restored my backup of fresh 1.1 with gbhils kernel and now I am at 90% awake time spare parts shows that "android system" as something keeping it awake. any suggestions on what this could be? could it have something to do with restoring the back up with the kernel over stock without a wipe?

battery performance - damagecontrol Rom v 1.o

What is the absolute best setup for damagecontrol rom, to get optimal battery life. Cuz i cant seem to get the same results others are claiming, im not complaining, love the rom, just feel im doing something wrong or missing something. So plz share what ever info u can.

this needed a new topic ?

at least hes not cluttering the thread more than it allready is.....on topic did you do the radio update?? or are you just on damage with stock radio?

I'm seeing this issue too, and I'm using the stock radio. I've been very hesitant to update my radio, but if it's quite safe to go with one of the others I'm open too. Searching the main damage thread is getting to be very painful also. I'm all for spreading the wealth out a little more.

Very easy to do, it the same as downloading a rom onto your phone.

My main question with this radio update is if I can flash it back to the original radio safely? Especially if I end up wanting to use a version of the sprint official update to 2.1.

Was not really on topic, sorry!

aauussttiinn88 said:
at least hes not cluttering the thread more than it allready is.....on topic did you do the radio update?? or are you just on damage with stock radio?
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Agreed... thats the only reason i decided to create a whole new thread, it was getting really difficult search the thread for the specific info i needed... anyways, im currently on stock radio because im a little hesitant to flash the new ones, but if it trully is the #1 source fot all the outstanding battery life, ill take the plunge later tonight. One more question, i just want to be completely sure that setcpu and overclook r no longer needed.

I haven't updated my radio, came from the stock Sprint to DamageControl V1, and from what I can tell my battery life is as good as it was on stock, if not better.
I haven't updated the radio as I'm like a lot of you, wondering what the exact changes are in it, and wondering how much risk I'm taking with doing it. I'm concerned that the change made is to lower the radio output/input levels to keep battery life up better, and that it is potentially causing some of the roaming that people are seeing.

Just flashed the updated radio yesterday. It's pretty much the same process as flashing the ROM and just as reversible. I think the battery life is better but haven't had a few days to really test it.
I noticed that with the stock radio, if reception was good, it was fine, but if reception was spotty, it drains like whoa.

My battery life was way worse with the new radio, I swapped back to the old one and am back where I was before the flash.

Sporkman said:
this needed a new topic ?
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over 300 pages and over 3000 replies in the damagecontrol ROM thread... YES this needs a new topic.. and just in the same spirit as the devs are so nice to take their time and create these ROMs to help peoples experience, maybe it would have been more worth the while to help the OP with his question (seeing as u "tweak" things)
in fact there needs to be more new topics that encompasses the fixes and what-nots in the damagecontrol ROM

I would also like to know the optimal setup for battery. I'm running DamageControl and I can't plug in my phone for 10 hours each day...

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Phone settings> CDMA (auto prl)
That's what gave me a giant boost.

abcdfv said:
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Phone settings> CDMA (auto prl)
That's what gave me a giant boost.
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mine is already set to this.. but my batterys at about 20% by 4:30pm

ive been web browsing for 10-15mins, music for about 3-4 hours. gtalk all day. alot of phone calls both last about 15mins or 20. (pretty sure i had everything open in the background no task killer) n my battery is at bout 45% i unplugged it at 5am this morning.

Jesus i love this rom but the battery life was HORRIBLE
it was horrible with stock radio as well as the newest one..
HOWEVER
i stumbled upon this post in the original thread (thanks for separating this into its own thread btw)
killerxx2 said:
For everyone who is having problems with this draining battery i have seen that damageless hasn't removed the GSD.apk removing it has helped my battery. to do this you connect your phone to the computer make sure usb debugging is enabled.
Pull up your cmd go to your adb dir mine is
cd C:/android-sdk-windows/tools
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app/
rm GSD*
ls (check and see if it has been removed) (optional)
exit
adb reboot
it has helped my battery life a lot
ps. damageless can you see about removing this in your next release
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once i did this it was still acting weird, awake time was the same as up time...but i let it do its thing and played the waiting game..so far it seems like its how it was before i flashed. Im just waiting for the next update

YoungAceAtlanta said:
ive been web browsing for 10-15mins, music for about 3-4 hours. gtalk all day. alot of phone calls both last about 15mins or 20. (pretty sure i had everything open in the background no task killer) n my battery is at bout 45% i unplugged it at 5am this morning.
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Wow that's what I used to get on 1.5. What is your setup ?
I unplugged at 5am also. With a couple texts , a few messages over gTalk and I was at 60% by 1.

abcdfv said:
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Phone settings> CDMA (auto prl)
That's what gave me a giant boost.
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There's an app for this in the market. Called "Network" so that you don't have to type in that every time. I have it on my homescreen for easy access.

I have the newest radio and my phone is set to CDMA (auto), but my battery life is considerably worse compared to Fresh 2.0b. I can make it about 12 hours, with minimal use.

[URGENT] Best for battery?

Hey guys, I'm leaving for a hike later this evening, 100km over 3 days and I need to use my Hero to track my exact location.
My question is, what is the best ROM for battery life?
I took the Hero on my last hike which was 30km tracking with MyTracks and running my own 2.1 ROM (see sig) and the battery died after 9 hours.
I DO NOT care what features the build has, I need it literally to be able to run MyTracks with GPS and nothing more for the next 3 days.
I have taken an emergency charger but the battery time that's likely to give me is negligable so I need something that can make the difference between an extra hour or two, or if more is possible it would be really great.
Any advice would be appreciated asap.
Thanks.

Frankly, with GPS on, even if you turn off everything else, theres no way your going to get a standard Hero battery to last 3 days. Take charged spares.

undergrid said:
Frankly, with GPS on, even if you turn off everything else, theres no way your going to get a standard Hero battery to last 3 days. Take charged spares.
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I'm aware of that, but I don't have any spares, not time to get hold of them, you an't just buy the things locally.
I'm looking for a ROM that will give me atleast a bit more battery life than I'm likely to get with my current one and hope I can find somewhere to charge half way (1.5 days) in

maybe modaco's 3.2 ROM? its based on 1.5. the kernel would offer best performance i would have thought. all the 2.1 ROMs have bad battery life so my advice would to be stay away from those.
next time buy this bad boy

PulpzillA said:
maybe modaco's 3.2 ROM? its based on 1.5. the kernel would offer best performance i would have thought. all the 2.1 ROMs have bad battery life so my advice would to be stay away from those.
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Yeh, I'm currently frantically modifying the stock 1.5 to remove Sense etc and see if iI can modify it it to be a bit more battery saving, I don't need 99% of the apps cause I just need it to run myTracks and nothing else.
My concern with Modaco is all the additions and performance increases may not necessarily be battery efficient, and the one and only time I tried ModaCo was a bad experience.
As for 2.1, of course I know theyre not great for battery, I made one (see sig)

im currently looking for a 2.1 that has decent battery performance im on the VillianROM 5.1 at the moment.
might try yours next

sincerely , i dont think that any roms would be able to get you one and a half day with gps.(
what i noticed is that battery drain differed from rom to rom with a couple of hrs between them ( like 3-4 maximum) but nothing like days

deeren said:
sincerely , i dont think that any roms would be able to get you one and a half day with gps.(
what i noticed is that battery drain differed from rom to rom with a couple of hrs between them ( like 3-4 maximum) but nothing like days
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Even 3-4 hours is good enough, it gets the last recorded location 3-4 hours closer to where i was before the battery died, I'm hiking so there is only so far I can have gone within that time.
I'v just stripped down the stock Hero ROM and removed all the HTC junk including Rosie and Lockscreen and most of the apps, all of the htc widgets etc. Going to see how I get o with this, I really do like Rosie but will be interesting to see how I get on with this ugly duckling.

PulpzillA said:
maybe modaco's 3.2 ROM? its based on 1.5. the kernel would offer best performance i would have thought. all the 2.1 ROMs have bad battery life so my advice would to be stay away from those.
next time buy this bad boy
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the mugen battery is very nice. i even bought one for myself at the beginning but i ended keeping it in my closet. The phone gets too thick and the lovely htc hero just looses its charm

well maybe you could try mcr 2.8 , disable all data sync(even google ...), even disable mobile network ( or switch on 2g). basically you can disable all the phone functions and use it only as gps i guess cause u need it for my tracks only.

deeren said:
the mugen battery is very nice. i even bought one for myself at the beginning but i ended keeping it in my closet. The phone gets too thick and the lovely htc hero just looses its charm
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I'll definately look into one of these for next time, but I'm leaving tonight so don't have time to get hold of one.
deeren said:
well maybe you could try mcr 2.8 , disable all data sync(even google ...), even disable mobile network ( or switch on 2g). basically you can disable all the phone functions and use it only as gps i guess cause u need it for my tracks only.
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that's the plan, I'm stripping the Stock one atm, I removed HTC_IME thinking it would default to the stock one though and I can't even get to input methods or anything to set it

would using a vanilla android ROM work?

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would using a vanilla android ROM work?
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Yeh, most probably, but which ones are light weight and stable (I'll stick with 1.5 builds because theyre official and fully working.)
Like I said I'm currently ripping everything out of the Hero stock one because I havn't been able to find a decent vanilla 1.5 for hero, most of it seems to be for the G1.

alias_neo said:
Yeh, most probably, but which ones are light weight and stable (I'll stick with 1.5 builds because theyre official and fully working.)
Like I said I'm currently ripping everything out of the Hero stock one because I havn't been able to find a decent vanilla 1.5 for hero, most of it seems to be for the G1.
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you could try aychteesee's vanilla cupcake from here :
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...illa-cupcake-rom-gsm-now-with-online-kitchen/
from what i know, he build it completely from the 2.73 hero rom.

deeren said:
you could try aychteesee's vanilla cupcake from here :
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...illa-cupcake-rom-gsm-now-with-online-kitchen/
from what i know, he build it completely from the 2.73 hero rom.
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Perfect thanks, looks like just that I need, and by the time I remove all the extra apps I don't need etc, should be great! Thanks.

after you have done that could you then post up the rom i would maybe like to test with out ripping and the only 2.1 rom i find that has goodish battery life is aHero

I would recoment SetCpu or something to keel the CPU running at 245mhz.
This is a age battery saver.

mach2005 said:
I would recoment SetCpu or something to keel the CPU running at 245mhz.
This is a age battery saver.
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Like he said^^
Use SetCPU or CPUoverclockwidget.
I use CPUoverclockwidget because it can change the CPU speed to 128MHz and also change how fast the phone should be in standby and with screen on.

Battery Life - WinMo 6.5 or 6.5.x

So I am thinking of making the switch from 21xxx to 23xxx and I read somewhere that I will see a increase in battery life by doing so while staying with the same cooks roms.
Does anyone have an opinion on this? Will the newer windows builds really help my batter life assuming the same usage throughout the day???
Thank you,
Jeff

I'm using WinMo 6.5 and as for right now my phone has been running for 3 days already with 40% battery life.

innovator8 said:
So I am thinking of making the switch from 21xxx to 23xxx and I read somewhere that I will see a increase in battery life by doing so while staying with the same cooks roms.
Does anyone have an opinion on this? Will the newer windows builds really help my batter life assuming the same usage throughout the day???
Thank you,
Jeff
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Jeff, I'm was the energy 23138 sept 23 standard rom and 2.14.50.x radio. i was getting anywhere between 24 and 36 hours on a standard size battery. I am a heavy user and when i'm at home my wifi is always on, i surf the internet a lot and if i'm out i've normally got the music player going. I also have the facebook tab updating every hour as well as my location. I also use the gps quite a bit.
So i would say the battery life is good but i can't compare it to 21916 as i have never used that series of builds and it's been a very long time since i used a stock rom, so again i can't compare.
My advise would be to try it out for a few days and see if you notice the difference but i have to say i am very pleased. I've just finished flashing and configuring 21619 sept 24 so it will be a couple of days before i can get a comparison between 23138 and 21619 (as you will have seen from the enrgy rom thread these are both 6.5.x builds) but i'm not expecting much difference considering that they use the same drivers from the 3.14 tmous base and the radio hasn't changed between the two.
A plus point though, seeing as you use the energy roms, is that xda_uc will still be able to import all your settings if you go for the same "flavour" rom i.e standard for standard or cht for cht (unless you pick the new cht2 builds then your cht settings are not compatible)

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bazinga said:
I'm using WinMo 6.5 and as for right now my phone has been running for 3 days already with 40% battery life.
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Can someone tell me how this is possible? I've had my HD2 for about 4 months now and if I don't charge it daily it's dead the next day. I'm using the new 2.14 radio and Miri HD2 WM6.5 (21916) ROM V 19.1. I have Exchange and weather on auto update and everything else is on manual update. Any pointers is a big plus. Thanks.
BTW I've tried the 23138 but I can't stand the over-sized buttons on the bottom. It's just absolutely hideous to me so I have no idea if it gets better battery life.

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Can someone tell me how this is possible? I've had my HD2 for about 4 months now and if I don't charge it daily it's dead the next day. I'm using the new 2.14 radio and Miri HD2 WM6.5 (21916) ROM V 19.1. I have Exchange and weather on auto update and everything else is on manual update. Any pointers is a big plus. Thanks.
BTW I've tried the 23138 but I can't stand the over-sized buttons on the bottom. It's just absolutely hideous to me so I have no idea if it gets better battery life.
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Extended size battery (the one that needs the different battery cover), auto disconnecting data connections, and not really using it very much at all

thanks guys for your reply, man it sure sounds like I am sucking as far as battery goes, my usage is a fraction of yours and I can barely get 20 hours. I think part of my problem is that at work, I have poor service, going in and out of coverage as I walk around the building. I have to turn off 3g and I barely have edge. I am currently trying duttys cream de la cream now 6.5.x to see if is any different. man, if I had your battery life, I would never flash again! I have latest radio, tried many, and the 3.14 rom.
I will let you know how this one goes.
jeff

I really don't believe some of you about the absolutely ridiculous battery life. Especially if you are heavy user, no way! I've seen lots of HD2's (different ROM's/Radios/battery charging methods) and I want to tell people on this board that they don't need to be worried if their battery is dead after a long working day with heavy use. So, don't believe too much fairy tales and enjoy your wonderful phone.

Sheikmans said:
I really don't believe some of you about the absolutely ridiculous battery life. Especially if you are heavy user, no way! I've seen lots of HD2's (different ROM's/Radios/battery charging methods) and I want to tell people on this board that they don't need to be worried if their battery is dead after a long working day with heavy use. So, don't believe too much fairy tales and enjoy your wonderful phone.
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It does seem a little crazy huh? I hear that some Iphone users can go three days with pretty heavy use and a few that I have talked to say that thier iphone can barely last 10 hours. There seems to be a ****load of variability in current consumption amongst all variants of smart phones.
I would just be pleased to get from 5am to 11am with moderate use, without having to buy that brick battery with the built in kickstand.
I will give this current rom a week to see how the battery settles down, ignore the sig, it is the Dutty CDLC V17 with the 2.14 radio.
Jeff