Database Users

where did the tutorials for hero go

wtf???!!! i was using one then the page refreshed and its gone and now im stuck with a half done phone...what gives

Everything was merged into the main hero thread.
Thread locked and moved.

This Ridiculous
There were multiple threads, each taking a different approach , about various issues concerning the HERO rom. I know the mods are doing their job but this is extremely frustrating when a thread is actually helping you. I managed to get HERO rom working with Lawrence's thread and then I tried to push a new VK through another Tutorial thread but guess what ? It was removed and now my VK doesn't work. How am I suppose to ask questions? Where did the thread go?
If you are going to delete a thread, move it, or merge it, it would be extremely helpful if there is a sticky or something letting us know.

they were all saying the exact same thing in 40 dialects, it's repetitive useless information and doesn't really do anything but clutter the forums.

I dont see one thread with the information i am looking for? where is the consolidation? where are they merged?

utcarbs said:
There were multiple threads, each taking a different approach , about various issues concerning the HERO rom. I know the mods are doing their job but this is extremely frustrating when a thread is actually helping you. I managed to get HERO rom working with Lawrence's thread and then I tried to push a new VK through another Tutorial thread but guess what ? It was removed and now my VK doesn't work. How am I suppose to ask questions? Where did the thread go?
If you are going to delete a thread, move it, or merge it, it would be extremely helpful if there is a sticky or something letting us know.
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I totally agree. This deleting of the threads is getting out of hand. I was almost done with the step by step instructions by lawrence when the thread was deleted!!

I guess the short answer to your question is don't venture into uncharted waters, i.e. messing around with a beta ROM that you have no idea how stable it will be, and not really having an understanding of exactly how to troubleshoot on your own. This is a developers forum, not a place to ask a thousand questions, each of which has either been asked or answered already.

GT30RSUBIE said:
I totally agree. This deleting of the threads is getting out of hand. I was almost done with the step by step instructions by lawrence when the thread was deleted!!
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that's my point. its too bad because the only reason i got hero to run was because of Lawrence thread. now where is it?
--Bakler--
I dont want to ask questions; i just follow the developers own tutorials and thats it. but im forced to ask questions when the thread im using is removed.

JustAnotherCrowd - HERO ROM
There was a thread on a rom JustAnotherCrowd was about to release, looked real promising but now its been deleted.... What's up with that?

i swear people really? are you fing serious?
read the instructions, understand what they are doing, then do it. this stuff is beta, its not even suppose to work on the g1. if you want a stable os on your phone then dont fck with it.
creating threads crying about how somethingdidnt work just looks childish.
if you want to ask a question, goto the irc where people are there to help each other. creating thread after thread or posting after posting isnt going to solve your problems...

As someone who is NOT rushing off to unstable hero builds, I for one do like the cleaning up of those threads. If its hero related, it should be kept in hero thread. There was one hero thread, and 4 'how to fix hero' threads. This clutters up the forum. Everyone is rushing to an unstable build to get to rosie UI and not realizing flashing to hero requires some knowledge and following directions extra carefully.
Either people should STOP making new threads for fixing hero, or people actually read before flashing it to see EVERYTHING that is required to do before loading it.
Thanks mods.

mods are deleting **** for joke lol

stop creating threads asking where threads went.

Kllian said:
i swear people really? are you fing serious?
read the instructions, understand what they are doing, then do it. this stuff is beta, its not even suppose to work on the g1. if you want a stable os on your phone then dont fck with it.
creating threads crying about how somethingdidnt work just looks childish.
if you want to ask a question, goto the irc where people are there to help each other. creating thread after thread or posting after posting isnt going to solve your problems...
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this thread isnt about complaining about malfunctions. its about discretion. where are the threads that actually help ?

utcarbs said:
There were multiple threads, each taking a different approach , about various issues concerning the HERO rom. I know the mods are doing their job but this is extremely frustrating when a thread is actually helping you. I managed to get HERO rom working with Lawrence's thread and then I tried to push a new VK through another Tutorial thread but guess what ? It was removed and now my VK doesn't work. How am I suppose to ask questions? Where did the thread go?
If you are going to delete a thread, move it, or merge it, it would be extremely helpful if there is a sticky or something letting us know.
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My post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3874647&postcount=405

I wouldn't have made a post but there is some documentation on
http://www.simonwalkerphotos.com/android/android_build_information.asp
and 'm sure JustAnotherCrowd is working hard getting his ROM together and it didn't seem fair that his post was deleted

Neoooooooobs!!!
Lock it up!

barlev869 said:
Lock it up!
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this......

rahduke said:
There was a thread on a rom JustAnotherCrowd was about to release, looked real promising but now its been deleted.... What's up with that?
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http://wise-projects.com/
best one yet

rahduke said:
I wouldn't have made a post but there is some documentation on
http://www.simonwalkerphotos.com/android/android_build_information.asp
and 'm sure JustAnotherCrowd is working hard getting his ROM together and it didn't seem fair that his post was deleted
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Many threads have started to dissapear.
Not sure what's going on.
I'll to find new links for the ROM database.
If anybody has any links for the builds, please let me know.
Twitter accounts or anyway to contact the developer will do.
contact me at: [email protected]
Thanks

Fed up with ppl posting question in the dev forum

Admin... mods...
Quite a few people of being plain stupid and posting non-dev related question/topics in the dev forum... it's kinda becoming a a mess...
no I don't blame the admin or mods... i blame the ppl doing this stupid thing... HELLO!!! can't u guys see "Development forum" and understand that it's specific to dev stuff???
BTW, if you guys need help with getting ride of crap like this, I'm ready to help!!!

Posts like this are just as annoying..

nothing really you can do to help.
They should change that stickied thread to state, "please post any question threads in the general section." or something like that. What it says now really doesn't mean anything to me.
This is coming someone who was once guilty of this act. As a noob to that forum I thought, "hey a development section, i got a question about development, guess it goes here. "
Its quite easy to see all of them are making this mistake.

They really need to just change it so that completely new threads need to be approved (not posts).

aldo37 said:
They really need to just change it so that completely new threads need to be approved (not posts).
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I'm sure the mods would love that idea /s
IMO people shouldn't take offense to a topic being posted in the wrong section. If I have a request for an app section I don't know if that goes in development, themes & apps, or general.
I think the best solution is to create more categories. "Questions/problems" "mods/hacks" "accessories" and maybe one specific to devs where they get some type of posting approval on their profile allowing them to post in a development section.
The categories are far too general to know exactly where every post should go, in my opinion.

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kable said:
Posts like this are just as annoying..
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+1............

kable said:
Posts like this are just as annoying..
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+1....
Still new to the android phones, but was once new to this forum. For someone who doesn't really know where they're supposed to post it's an easy mistake.

The mods take care of this, trust me. They write in every locked thread and moved thread why it was moved, etc. This is just annoying. To me, this looks more like you are asking to be a mod than anything. But I see your view.

here have a beer and wecome to the club

SO MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT!!
Geez....report the thread and move on...

gtrplr71 said:
here have a beer and wecome to the club
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WIN! bahahahahha

Ruben1123 said:
The mods take care of this, trust me. They write in every locked thread and moved thread why it was moved, etc. This is just annoying. To me, this looks more like you are asking to be a mod than anything. But I see your view.
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Yeah, they do... but it's really annoying when someone posts a "how to flash" question in the dev forum... and no, I'm not asking for mod powers [in fact I don't want mod powers]... quite frankly I visit this site just once or twice a day... to busy with demos at work... I just want to know all the ways we can avoid this... anything to help the "super-mods" on this forum... yeah stickies are there... but some ppl just act dumb and don't even bother to read the stickies...
gtrplr71 said:
here have a beer and wecome to the club
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Much appreciated... a little spirit to calm my spirit...
bfspider said:
SO MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT!!
Geez....report the thread and move on...
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Yeah, I cud do that... but I want to know if there's anything else I can do... the mods have quite enuf without having to worry about idiots posting in the wrong forum.

Well. Seeing that you're very new to the forum "28th January 2010" you might as well just get used to it. It's never going to change. Welcome to the internet.

dumbestcrayon said:
Well. Seeing that you're very new to the forum "28th January 2010" you might as well just get used to it. It's never going to change. Welcome to the internet.
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I may be new to this forum... (cuz I got my N1 just around that time... my first Android phone... and I never had any other phones for which this forum has threads.... but XDADev is a trusted, well known name...) I moderated MotorolaFans.com a couple of years ago, before I got too involved with office work, and I did have to deal with this crap there as well.
I guess ppl got the wrong impression from this thread (I think it's my fault, didn't word it correctly). I'm just looking for ways to make the mods' lives a little less frustrating... and to get crap outta the wrong forums ;-).

So basically, this thread was created as a way for you to not so subtly cry out that you want to be a mod. All this after only being on this forum for a few weeks. Gotcha.

ajwho said:
So basically, this thread was created as a way for you to not so subtly cry out that you want to be a mod. All this after only being on this forum for a few weeks. Gotcha.
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Err... hello.... if u read my earlier posts... I said I DON'T want to be a mod... quite frankly, I don't have the time... and I'd land up doing a crappy job... I'm just saying, from personal experience, that a mods job isn't easy... and we, the users, need to contribute to keeping this forum clean...
Let me put this down properly...
1. I don't want to be a mod
2. I'm not doubting or complaining about the mods and the great work they do
3. There are only a few mods and thousands of users (that's some task)
4. We, the users, also need to help keeps things clean
So in short, what can I, as a USER, do to help improve this situation!!!

Does the HD2 have any good solutions to the graphics problems?

Hey all,
I was using my HD2 today and I don't like the way the phone has certain lags :/
I know about Chainfire's Patch for HD2, and i've heard about another patch that supposedly does the same thing. Also, there seem to be various different forums for boosting the performance on the HD2. I would like (if this is possible ) to have the best known combination of registry tweaks and programs and modifications in one thread so that they'll be easier for everyone to locate I think key improvement factors would include Performance, Smoothness in day to day graphics eg Scrolling through the Album in Landscape or Music or the Start Menu, Speed (The CPU doesn't Idle when it needs to be used for power).
I think what bugs me most is that seemingly slight lag when scrolling through HTC Sense, or when playing Teeter. Sorry if i'm bothering everyone
Thanks for helping

why shall anyone spoon feed You? what about "search" and then "contribute" making such a thread if You feel theres such a need?
... no wonder people are leaving this forum.

bronx said:
why shall anyone spoon feed You? what about "search" and then "contribute" making such a thread if You feel theres such a need?
... no wonder people are leaving this forum.
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What forum :/ And i'm not ASKING to be sppon fed like some little kid, i'm just saying everything is scattered all over the place, and if everything was in one place then no one would "Leave the forum" No offense meant though

Elemental_Fire said:
What forum :/
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This forum, the thing you are posting on.
This is a forum.

MidnightDraven said:
This forum, the thing you are posting on.
This is a forum.
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And a forum is meant to be searched. Even if there's only one thread for everything (which will not happen I think), one still has to search that thread.

Mod, please delete this!

Elemental Fire,
A little confused by your post. There is a Hints and Tips thread and a Questions thread on here which should cover off most of what you need. Even if everything you wanted was in one thread I bet it would grow to such an extent that you would have to search through it at some point to find and understand the variations that pop up with published solutions, tweaks, etc.
You have 2 options; start your own thread and populate it with all the "best features" you are looking for or keep a log of the things you find that will be useful to you. For the former you get to put some time into the forum and help others out, for the latter you satisfy your own needs.
Hope this helps.
WB

I´m noob also, got my lesson concerning search teached also ..............
Go here: they work on my stock-rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
(Use SK-Tools, and: HKLM means H_KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE )

DL30 froyo rom Samsung Widgets disappearing?

Anybody have any ideas. I am aware that devs are not supporting the original leak. But im just looking for info more than anything. Every once in a while i will hit the home button and as soon as i return to the home screen the calendar clock, and the feeds and updates widget are no longer there.

I think I know what you're talking about. If you wait a little bit they come back... think it's the launcher resetting. Did it to me a lot too, switched to super clean, haven't seen it since *knock on wood*.

This belongs in general. Read Me
But it happens to me to with beautiful widgets. Time and again. i just deal with it since this is not the final build.

I understand what your guys are saying but thats not my problem. im fully aware that if you use adobe flash, or apps that use a lot of resources that if you hit home sometimes it will refresh the home screen (happened all the time on the Original droid). My problem is the widgets disappear all together meaning they dont reappear. Ohh and this isnt a general question this question refers to an unofficial rom aka ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
Also its not all the widgets that disappear it just the Samsung widgets (i only use calendar clock, and feeds and updates widget)

If you read that link you would see that your question should have gone in the leak thread. Or your thread should have been started in general. Why must people try to justify their mistakes?
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.

Here are few key excerpts so you don't have to read the whole thing:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
So remember… before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can’t answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?

There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.

bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
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I lol'd. Agreed.
And same here op. It bothered me for awhile cause I really like the program monitor widget and that blue digital clock. I ended up just getting another widget from the market but touchwiz seems to make it all shaky every time I went to another screen. Wish there was a fix, but I just deal with it.

bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
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If that's the case then consider it their sacrifice so YOU can have a nicely running phone. So stfu and listen to them when they tell you what you should have been doing in the first place.

bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
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First of all, I'm married, so of course I don't. And second, I don't see how sexual frustration = desire for the development board to remain uncluttered with stuff that belongs elsewhere. Can you explain that?

Lol its all in fun.
I switched to the official leak useing the official kernel and widgets are not disappearing now....

bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
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It must be our proper grammar, correct spelling, and common sense.
Stop being such a troll.

Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?

stereoblind said:
Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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^I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I dont think they were trying to attack him personally, but...
it's a matter of frustration that established users have here with people completely disregarding the rules (and this is coming from someone with low post count). To my understanding the development fora are supposed to be FOR devs, not end-users. I think our role as end-users (in this development forum) is to provide support in terms of bug reporting (or whatever the dev might need) and such WITHIN specific dev threads. By not adhering to the rules, new users are unintentionally changing the dynamic of how these fora are supposed to operate.
So they're not trying to be d*cks, they're just trying to maintain the integrity of this forum.

stereoblind said:
Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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Let me put it into context for you:
Here is the third post of the thread. It contains a simple reminder to please post in the correct section, and an answer to the original question. Exactly as you suggest, telling him once.
jselden said:
This belongs in general. Read Me
But it happens to me to with beautiful widgets. Time and again. i just deal with it since this is not the final build.
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Here is the very next post. It shows the original poster, who obviously didn't read the provided readme in the above post, attempting to justify his posting in the wrong section. This is where it became an issue, when the OP, instead of admitting his mistake and avoiding misplaced topics in the future (which would be perfectly forgivable, and not a problem) defends his uninformed postition with his own flawed logic.
wroder84 said:
I understand what your guys are saying but thats not my problem. im fully aware that if you use adobe flash, or apps that use a lot of resources that if you hit home sometimes it will refresh the home screen (happened all the time on the Original droid). My problem is the widgets disappear all together meaning they dont reappear. Ohh and this isnt a general question this question refers to an unofficial rom aka ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
Also its not all the widgets that disappear it just the Samsung widgets (i only use calendar clock, and feeds and updates widget)
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Easy solution: Read the rules, and when you're corrected by someone with 10 times your post count, who provides verification, just admit you were wrong.

How about a solution to this problem,, in the sub forum section page change the expalnation of the 4 sub forums to capatilazation and place it before the actual sub forum link and change the sub forum link to un capitalized font . I think this might help force people to rerad first before clicking the link.

BrwnSuperman said:
It must be our proper grammar, correct spelling, and common sense.
Stop being such a troll.
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OMG u got me man u got me good im just gonna go now since i've been owned.
kipnukmals said:
How about a solution to this problem,, in the sub forum section page change the expalnation of the 4 sub forums to capatilazation and place it before the actual sub forum link and change the sub forum link to un capitalized font . I think this might help force people to rerad first before clicking the link.
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Better idea just password protect this section so only devs can post here. FYI there will be about 4 posts a month in this forum then lol.

bL33d said:
Better idea just password protect this section so only devs can post here. FYI there will be about 4 posts a month in this forum then lol.
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No one has a problem with everyone being able to post in the development forum, Just people cluttering it up with things that belong in the general forum. I will never understand how people can argue so hard for anarchy. If developers and veterans are complaining about the state of the site, then maybe you ought to get your act together or we'll just leave. Then who's going to help you with your issues? Other noobs who have won the right to post wherever the hell they want by driving off the people who actually make roms and mods and fixes. If the op wanted a topic for his specific issue, he should have posted it in general. If he wanted to post in development he should have done so in the thread for the rom he is using, not created a new thread. It's clearly stated in the rules. Why is that such a problem to some people?

sonofskywalker3 said:
Let me put it into context for you:
Here is the third post of the thread. It contains a simple reminder to please post in the correct section, and an answer to the original question. Exactly as you suggest, telling him once.
Here is the very next post. It shows the original poster, who obviously didn't read the provided readme in the above post, attempting to justify his posting in the wrong section. This is where it became an issue, when the OP, instead of admitting his mistake and avoiding misplaced topics in the future (which would be perfectly forgivable, and not a problem) defends his uninformed postition with his own flawed logic.
Easy solution: Read the rules, and when you're corrected by someone with 10 times your post count, who provides verification, just admit you were wrong.
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I'm sorry dev, but the number of people who are dumb and being asses gonna to out strip you by more than 100 to 1. You should learn to tolerate that as being the norm, to have common sense is pretty much a crime to humanity and the norm.

beray5 said:
I'm sorry dev, but the number of people who are dumb and being asses gonna to out strip you by more than 100 to 1. You should learn to tolerate that as being the norm, to have common sense is pretty much a crime to humanity and the norm.
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He's a troll, just ignore him. This thread should be locked since the OP has been helped and it's just going downhill.
Thanks for all your work sonofskywalker, I keep alternating between Blackhole and Superclean still trying to figure out which is a better fit.

Make a dev tread clearer..

Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
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Question,
Is it possible for a topic starter in a dev tread to clean his own tread in the futere?
Mayby it's a idea to ad that option if a topic starter asked that.
And that they can only clean his/her tread?
I think it make yours and theirs live a lot relaxer.
You don't need to watch every tread. And the dev can keep his tread cleen without spamming and the same question over en over again.
Sorry for my typo.....
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12aon said:
Do you really think this is a good idea. Members get into fights, even topic starters. This could easily be misused, and I'm certain it will lead to more aggravation than it will solve.
Sent from the future using a surfboard
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My answer.
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Yes, I really think this is a good idea.
You can make rules before you ad the option. Like new members.
The dev need (for example) a least 100 post* before they can ask you for the option. Then you can screen the past of that person . And if they misbehaving. Then we (the not dev people) have many options to contact you. And after you warning a dev. The next time he goose across the line, he lost that option for good ...
But this is just my opinion. And again, I thinks this good really worked.
Thanks for answer me.
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Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.

streamnlnl said:
Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
The response.
My answer.
Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
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No, rules are fine as is. And this is in the wrong section

Yeah I think this is a good idea

I think the idea is good in theory, however I don't see it being as good in practice. First, the devs rarely post anyway. I don't think they also want the responsibility of cleaning their own threads. To be honest, it is usually not the devs complaining about off topic. It's the senior members who have self assigned themselves forum police. I can definitely see something like this getting out of hand or misused.
I think the 10 posts minimum to post in the dev threads is both part of the problem and solution. Now we have noobs posting new threads wherever they can just so they can get a question answered or get their post count up. The problem is that they didn't LEARN anything by that rule. At the end of 10 forced posts they are still wanting an answer to their dev questions, so they post it in a dev thread anyway.
With xRecovery and the increasing ease of modifying your phone, more and more less experienced people are hacking their phones. Those people are inevitably going to have more questions, and the current "devs only" approach leaves them no option but to post in the devs thread.
I think the recent trend of linking a discussion thread to the dev thread is a more feasible and fair way to go. It would be better if somehow xda could link the discussion thread, rather than having a link hidden amongst the posts.
JMHO

Something such like this isn't possible, only if you would create in the Admin Control Panel a special usergroup to move devs to it. Just to much work for such a little thing.

this is not a good idea
and this would be apparent if people have been here for a length of time
im gonna give a scenario here
ok developers can mod their own threads. what if that same dev then does something bad and underhanded, and then a member in the threads knows and posts it in the thread (this has actually happened before). the dev then goes and deleted all traces of this from the thread so the moderators never know of the developers wrongdoing
in a perfect world this maybe a good idea
however at the minute no. this would allow a developers too many tools to cover up any moment of ill judgement

Not a good ideal for me. I'm sorry
Sent from my X10 using XDA App