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Should i go from my Wizard <MDA> to Wing

My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
My MDA has been a great phone, one of the best i have ever owned.
Is the wing still a standard USB to charge it and sync it?
Only change i see is faster proc, microSD instead of miniSD, and 2mp over my 1.3...
I use my phone mostly for TXT, notepad and calendar.....\
So should i upgrade?

john94si said:
My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
My MDA has been a great phone, one of the best i have ever owned.
Is the wing still a standard USB to charge it and sync it?
Only change i see is faster proc, microSD instead of miniSD, and 2mp over my 1.3...
I use my phone mostly for TXT, notepad and calendar.....\
So should i upgrade?
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its not a faster proc. it doesnt have more ram. but it operates wm6 much much better than the MDA series. I just upgraded about a month ago and I am enjoying it a lot. The only reason I upgraded was because I cracked my MDA screen on new years eve.
The wing is slimmer, but its more of a left hand user kind of phone. so the choice is really up to you
I still like the MDA better, because it has the email and ie button on the main top of the screen and it was more of a right hander using phone.

I went from an MDA to a WING ... and I LOVE it.

I would say, dont upgrade/downgrade(!) to wing. The processor is same. RAM is still the same. Yeah, the body is slimmer, but, thats it. Also, you ll have to use the ext-usb to sync and charge, unlike the MDA
In short, the answer is NO

john94si said:
My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
So should i upgrade?
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i have had my 2 MDAs for almost 2 years. Gave one to my Daughter and she loves it. Got the Wing online for $50.00 after a $50.00 rebate. Only added one line for 1 year. Ported old number over at no cost. In the offer I also got a new Blue Tooth Headset for free. Free shipping, too. Had to signup for the email package at $9.95 per month, but will cancel as soon as I get refund.
Do NOT buy Wing for $280.00 and sign up for a 2 year contract. Really, I am not trying to tell you what to do, just save you some money.
Wing seems to be a little faster when connecting to the Internet. Agree with what others wrote below. If I had to buy at $280.00 and signup for 2 years I would not get the Wing. I still use both my MDA and Wing. Pretty much the same phone IMHO.
Good Luck on whatever you do.

For those of you who said try another phone. What would you recommend? Nothing that I see is really that HOT!

Yea tmobile doesnt offer any other cool phones. I hate blackberrys.
So can i still get a wing for $50 somewhere an 1 yr?

You can always get a ATT Tilt with contract for less than that. That's way too expensive.

I was going to stay with TM becuase my girls contract is with them and few other friends so calls within tmobile are free for us to each other.
I do see sprints new everything unlimited for $99 no though..

john94si said:
Yea tmobile doesnt offer any other cool phones. I hate blackberrys.
So can i still get a wing for $50 somewhere an 1 yr?
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Yeah call that business direct number (cant find it right now---you can search for me though )
and give them promo code "Windows Mobile"
once I get some cash I'll get the Wing, or the Tilt depending on price

Ok ill try the TM business.
Where are you located b.mann? I am in orlando. What happend to my post count?
I used to have ALOT of post here and now it just shows post count 8? Did the database crash here?

john94si said:
I was going to stay with TM becuase my girls contract is with them and few other friends so calls within tmobile are free for us to each other.
I do see sprints new everything unlimited for $99 no though..
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T-Mobile has the $99.00 plan just like all the rest of the companies.

Nah, stay with the MDA
Inside, the Wing and MDA are identical: same processor, same RAM, same ROM. I'm personally considering getting an MDA even though I have a Wing(I have my reasons). I like how it has the buttons for Internet Explorer and the messaging client above the screen as well as the control for the wireless radio on the left side of the phone. The only upgrades are the fact that the Wing runs Windows Mobile 6 and has a 2 MP camera.

The wing is cool, but I miss the LED flash on the MDA's camera. I used to use it as a little flashlight... MAN that thing came in handy!

john94si said:
Ok ill try the TM business.
Where are you located b.mann? I am in orlando. What happend to my post count?
I used to have ALOT of post here and now it just shows post count 8? Did the database crash here?
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St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people

well... the wing looks cooler...

b.mann said:
St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people
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Another Florida resident, huh? NY transplant in Palm Coast here.

The only reason I went from my MDA to a Wing was because the last time my MDA crapped out, they replaced it with a damn Dash. Talk about a downgrade. I lost ALL of the functionality that I had with my MDA such as the touch screen and general overall better feel of the keyboard (for my large hands). So I bit the bullet and went for a new 2 yr contract and a $300 upgrade charge even after a lot of pissing and moaning about how ridiculous it was to replace an MDA with a stupid Dash. Not hating on the Dash cause I'm sure there are plenty of people who like it, I'm just not one of them.
Anyway, to the point of my post. It took me a little while to get used to how the phone now opens on the opposite side than the MDA did. The keyboard has a much better feel to it than the MDA did, other than the location of the two "soft keys" when you have the keyboard open. I have had a few accidental sent messages or menu opens when trying to hit the I or O button or the R or T button. I like the more rubberized feel of the casing. And, since my favorite color is blue, I like the color
Overall I've been pleased with it. I guess I could have spent $100 more and gotten an iPhone, but AT&T can bite me for how much they want to charge for data packages and service. Besides the fact that the iPhone needs a slider and a QWERTY keyboard!

MDA for Wing
Here is another vote...
YES...
I have my old MDA and just got the Wing.
Much Much Much nicer.
and b.mann beat me to the best part..
Call t-mobile and use the
"Windows Mobile" and get it for 50.00
Can't beat that ...

b.mann said:
St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people
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I'll be at UCF this semester, too!

Titan VS. Raphael

Since I had to send my Titan back to my ex-employer do to a layoff, I went out and got a ATT FUZE (Raphael). Ladies and Gentlemen, run do not walk and trade your Titan in for a Raphael. The only differences that took some time to get used to is a slightly smaller screen and so far it takes a long time for the GPS to fix but seems to pull in more satellites. The battery life seems to be better and a 3 megapixel camera with a flash. The increased memory is great. I rarely need to reboot the phone. You can turn off the TouchFlo 3D if you don't like it and there are a bunch of new ROMs in the Raphael forum.
I guess I will see you all over there as I won't be needing to read the Titan forums.
Thanks again to DCD and GC14 for all their hard work and making my past Titan a usable phone.
Jim Ambrose

yeah I was looking at the samsung omnia from verizon... but their family plans are just too much money... rediculously overpriced.....
so will stick to my mogul.. but will check out what yer ravin bout

I believe the Raphael or Fuze is the touch pro for Verizon and Sprint isnt it?

vegeta77778 said:
I believe the Raphael or Fuze is the touch pro for Verizon and Sprint isnt it?
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Fuze=AT&T and Verizon I think.
Touch Pro= Sprint.
dwizzy130

The Fuze is AT&T's name for the device, and it operates on GSM. It is the Touch Pro on other carriers though - Sprint, Alltel, Verizon. The CDMA model is 6850, obviously succeeding the 6800.

The guy I sit next to just got a Touch Pro on Alltel since his second 6800 died. All I can say is WOW! This is what the phone should have been all along. Lots of memory, the touch screen is great, and it's keyboard now has a dedicated number row. The buttons respond better. Be advised that the keyboard slides out to the left instead of the right now. I'm left handed so I love it. It's more like the Samsung i760 I had for a while. If it wasn't for the pricing VZW for the data plans, I'd have kept that phone.

Accordintg with a poll taking place here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
Of 3500 voters on that poll
Titan has 21 votes
Raphael has 330 votes

Touch Pro 2
At this point, why not wait for the Touch Pro 2, due out in late Q2 of 2009 for both Europe and North America?
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/02/23/htc-touch-pro2-confirmed-for-north-america-eta-is-hazy/

[email protected] said:
At this point, why not wait for the Touch Pro 2, due out in late Q2 of 2009 for both Europe and North America?
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/02/23/htc-touch-pro2-confirmed-for-north-america-eta-is-hazy/
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You see, I'm really old-fashioned. All recent devices out there (including the "still to be released" Pro2) look just too clean to me. Finger-friendly devices, IMHO, are just too keen to collect finger prints!
Where are all those uselful hardware buttons, to be used whenever we want our devices in portrait mode? That's the main reason why I chose the Ultimate 9502 last year, after my Uni's death. HW keys are all over the place. I have one of them remapped by PQzII and then, I'm able to access the applications and settings I mostly use without needing to take out the stylus. And I'm pretty happy with it !
Of course, sometimes, I do touch my screen. Some applications do require it. But, in general, HW keys are much, much faster.
Well, I'm getting old, and, lately, I've been finding myself heavily wrong in my assumptions...
Cheers!
Carlos

You all should check out the Touch HD. People are getting the Telstra 850 model from Down Under and getting it to work on ATT 3g. I just won one so looking forward to the "iphone killer".

TD2 to Pure or x1a, is it worth switching?

Hi guys, I'm currently using Diamond2 that I bought from Asia. So far there's nothing wrong with this phone and I liked it a lot.
However, my TD2 eats UMTS 900/2100 which is not compatible with 850/1900 that Rogers (from Canada) is providing. Hence I only have access to 2G/EDGE/GPRS and not 3G.
So, right now I'm thinking of two ways to get me on Rogers' 3G network:
Sell my TD2 (or simply pass it on to someone in my family) then buy a AT&T Pure from the US, or
Buy a Sony Ericsson x1a for 99.99 CAD (w/ 3yr contract) from Rogers then flash a ROM with Manila 2.5 in it
Either way I'll be spending around $100 CAD (sell low buy high for TD2)
I've done some research on Touch HD and HD2 (from Telstra) too, but I think the sizes are too big to fit into my jean's pocket nicely.
So what do you guys think? Any advices and suggestions?
PS: I just found a housing that is seems to be able to convert Pure into TD2
http://cgi.ebay.com/R999-Hot-Housing-Faceplate-black-for-AT-T-HTC-Pure_W0QQitemZ250574281543QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a57641b47

Hmm...
Well I'm already regretting locking myself into a 2-yr contract with the Death Star (AT&T) down here in the States, so a 3 yr contract sounds scary as hell.
I have the Pure and am currently running Duttys Holy Grail R7, and am digging it. Aesthetics are crap compared to the TD2.
Here's the thing though, and maybe its just me, but I ran my phone on EDGE for a good while, and noticed little real world difference in speed when compared to 3G. Maybe I'm just more patient then most, but if you already have a TD2, why pay more for the same phone? If you wanna buy a new handset, get a NEW handset, right?
Of course, if you do, I'd love to hear how that shell replacement goes. I don't think it'll work because the buttons on the Pure are different than the TD2, but what do I know?

I owned the X1 before and purchase Pure from Att recently as a cheap replacement since the digitizer went bad (but fixed myself now). I may a bit bias since I so used to my X1. But there are quite many advantages on X1 that make me missed my X1 so much in the period on using the Pure.
Here is the my order:
1. Hardware buttons!!! X1 has many more buttons for you to use (combine with AE button plus to give you a lot more functionality). Camera, left & right soft key, OK, Panel, and 5 ways optical buttons. They are especially handy when using X1 while driving (don't try it at home. ). Optical button make scrolling between song list extremely easy.
2. 3.5mm audio jack. Need me to say more? (Don't forget it works as TMC antenna too!)
3. keyboard. Typing is much easier on X1.
4. flashlight as torch.
5. U may notice I am a rom cook as well. At the moment, I still can't make iGo8's TTS works with under WM6.5 if Manila 2.5 is active (probably due to memory issue). A very similar build works on X1.
Here are the cons on X1.
1. Crack issue is real!!!
2. No G-sensor means I can't play teether.....
3. I like the flat screen on D2. The gap between the frame and the LCD traps many dirt on my X1..

Thanks for you guys' inputs
demonic_pascal said:
Well I'm already regretting locking myself into a 2-yr contract with the Death Star (AT&T) down here in the States, so a 3 yr contract sounds scary as hell.
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This is not a problem for me because I've been using Rogers for more than 10 years, so right now Rogers is offering me a very discounted deal. If I want to move out of Canada or change carrier, I can just sell my plan to someone else.
To jackleung:
Before I bought my TD2, I was comparing it with x1 (no x1a at that moment). I've taken account of the pros and cons you've listed so that's why I chose TD2. But if I'm gonna buy a new x1a, I'll still be keeping my old TD2 (x1a for Canada, TD2 when I go back to Taiwan).
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So far my money is leaning towards the x1a because I'm not sure if I can live with the AT&T version of Topaz (some say it is very hard to convert the housing/shell) and jackleung reminded me the benefits that x1 has.
Anyways, I think I'll phone Rogers to see if they still have x1a in Vancouver area. Thanks again people.

Not worth it
x1a is very laggy, and has many issues, example keyboard will get dirty, since there's a gap. Even the new x2 is lagging, so, I would say no.

htc fan89 said:
x1a is very laggy, and has many issues, example keyboard will get dirty, since there's a gap. Even the new x2 is lagging, so, I would say no.
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This is nonsense. Spec of X1, D2 is almost identical. Custom roms makes a lot different on both X1 and D2.

your opinions on this phone needed

I am looking to purchase this phone and use it with Bell in Canada. I am just wondering what everyone's opinion on this phone is. I did own the HTC Diamond and Touch Pro and really liked them as they were easy to flash. That and could use the suretype qwerty keyboard.
Any and all opinions on this phone would be appreciated.
Thanks!!

Still a good device who can stay alive some more years I believe, only thing I would chose over TD2 is the HD2 (I will get it soon).
The only thing bugging me on this phone is the battery life, it's not bad but not good either.

I recently upgraded to this after a kaiser and a hermes. Still waiting for a nexus one (or equivalent) that I don't have to pay $600 for (f'ing at&t). AT&T has heavily discounted the pure (1 cent with contract), and I couldn't resist.
I flashed to energy leo before I even made a call, and couldn't be happier. Fast, stable, does what I want. I used mobile shell before, but am happy with manila/sense 2.5 so far.
I thought I might worry about not having a hard keyboard, but I'm running swype, and again, couldn't be happier.
If one comes your way for a good price, I recommend.

Made the Switch from TP2 to Incredible (video link in thread)

Well, I did it. I got the HTC Incredible on Thursday. I cannot lie, thing this is fast. I will miss my hardware keyboard, but other than that i must say it is amazing.
What did it for me was I was finally able to get a sense build of android 2.1 working on the TP2. I was sold after that, looked at the incredible, specs, and gave it a shot, so far i am VERY HAPPY. The camera on this thing is amazing... Sorry if this was a rant, im not trying to put down the TP2 in anyway as the TP2 was an awesome phone for me for about 6 months lol.
Here is a link to my video on youtube showing it off a little bit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP-ZPF3sY8w
The screen doesn't play well with my webcam...

I made the same move, and I couldn't be happier. I'm even getting used to the on-screen keyboard.
If you still have your TP2, go ahead and take it's battery and drop that in the Incredible. The TP2 has the same output but a slightly higher capacity.

I would but I think the person who buys my phone off of eBay will wonder whats up with the bright red battery lol. I must say though, i've gotten great battery life so far with this phone.

I suppose you're right - I'm keeping my TP2 around as a back just in case, particularly after seeing current prices for used models on eBay (too low to bother).

average price of a sold unlocked tp2 is about $280... not bad, especially when i got it for $199...

Yep, made the switch too. Can't decide on the ebay route. My only issues so far are battery life, easily fixable, plan on a high cap battery, and no sim card. Good bye Global

I made the switch from a Imagio and never looking back!

I'm getting differing feedback on the Incredible. Is this truly a global phone? In other words, can I use it while traveling to Europe and Asia? Not that I am planning to but I want to be able to. I assume this phone is only available for Verizon.

OracleBlue said:
I'm getting differing feedback on the Incredible. Is this truly a global phone? In other words, can I use it while traveling to Europe and Asia? Not that I am planning to but I want to be able to. I assume this phone is only available for Verizon.
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Not a true global phone. It does not support GSM bands, no sim card. Im not 100% sure where it will work overseas though. Yes right now only Verizon has this phone I believe.

updated with youtube link for video

Made the move from ATT Tilt 2, jumping carriers because I just had to have this phone. I'm slightly put off by the battery life, signal issues (which seems to be present in your youtube video too), and the lack of simultaneous voice and data.
Other than those things.. I love it.

What about voice dial compared to the TP2?
On my TP1, once activated, voice dial would tell me what it thought I said and then give me a chance to try again, all with me not pushing any more buttons. AFAIK, the incredible doesn't do that, and that makes me a sad panda

yeah it seems to be an issue, but i still get good reception, even if it is showing nothing.

Im making the switch from my Imagio to the Incredible
Can't wait till it comes in!
Should get here Wednesday or Thursday!

Backup for travel
aaronjb said:
I suppose you're right - I'm keeping my TP2 around as a back just in case, particularly after seeing current prices for used models on eBay (too low to bother).
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You can also keep it for when you travel outside of the US for GSM capability (make sure it's unlocked before you leave).

This seems to be the exact thread I am looking for
I played with an Incredible at the store but the way they had the lock device on the phone part of the keyboard was not usable. It also did not have any vibration feedback when you press a key.
I currently have a Touch Pro that is used email both personal and work via Exchange as well as Text messaging for work outages. This leads me to use the hardware keyboard alot, and I have grown to love the dedicated number area on the TP.
For the users who have gone from a hardware keyboard to the Incredible, how was the transition? Is it manageable for longer emails? How is the Exchange support or is it worth looking at Touchdown to manage that? Would it be better just to go for the Moto Droid with it's hardware keyboard for longer communications?

Where did you get the nexus one live wallpaper?

Tryout xdandroid on your TP2 first
calash said:
How is the Exchange support or is it worth looking at Touchdown to manage that?
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calash, I was following the xdandroid development closely so it was a good test to adjust to the switchover of android before making the jump. Also it's a safe way to test it out (boots android off SD card). Exchange and Gmail sync worked well (using "As email arrives") pulling in all my contacts and OS integration was nice between contacts/emails/google maps/etc.
Check out the project: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997

seanmcd72 said:
Where did you get the nexus one live wallpaper?
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it's in the market. search "nexusmod"

Saying that GSM is the only coverage you'll get outside of the USA is not really true. There are CDMA providers in most regions. The real trick is what kind of coverage that will be. There are differing frequencies as well as data connections.
I have had CDMA coverage in all the areas I have traveled to. I don't worry about data, because I turn off all data features on my phone when outside the USA. Don't need any nasty surprises on the charges front.
Here's info for CDMA availability world wide:
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp