I´ve been following with interest the porting of touchflo interface to non-Elf (Touch) devices.
There have been lots of requests for developing a cab with files n settings for such an interface. It has been suceesfully ported to custom ROMs for Artemis, wizard...., but developers say that there is no way to build just a cab.
not being a developer, i would like to know the rationale behind "cab is no possible", as i can not undestand why, if touch flow can be ccoked to a ROM, it can not be made into a cab. Surely there is an explanation.
(i ask this question because i´d rather keep the stock ROM until warranty period is over, but i want to use my device (Artemis) as much as possible without reverting to stylus)
The Problem is that the Touch.dll must be replaced with the one from HTC Touch... this is not possible.
Only before cooking the Rom you are able to replace System DLLs
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So the solution would be to make an installation rotine that unloads touch dll from memory, ,overwrites it with the replacement "flo" one, and then reload touch dll.
is that a workable solution under MsMobile platform?
Sorry if i´m proposing a nonsense, as i´m no programmer at all (just "hello world" stuff)
I'm not one of the ROM cookers here but I think the system dlls that need replacing cannot be deleted because they are in ROM and therefore, the device needs to be flashed to change behaviour.
damac said:
I'm not one of the ROM cookers here but I think the system dlls that need replacing cannot be deleted because they are in ROM and therefore, the device needs to be flashed to change behaviour.
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or just the cab being reinstalled after every hard reset?
The touch.dll is different from device to device... so u'll have to have a "touch" dll that fits your device. Another reason is that the dll can not be changed after flashing the rom, has it is protected by the OS (not even using Total Commander...).
I try to overwrite Touch.dll via some program to replace the original Touch.dll.
After replace it, Touch-screen is no respond to any touch on the screen but Hardware button still working ,then I restore my device.
In my idea, I think Touch.dll is device specific and this file take control all of touch-screen. So Touch.dll cannot be replace by conventional method.
We have to rewrite Touch-Flo program to hook on another dll, e.g. Touch-Flo.dll. (This is just my theory) But I don't know "How to do it ?".
Does anyone have idea about it ?
dferreira said:
The touch.dll is different from device to device... so u'll have to have a "touch" dll that fits your device.
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Well, until Tytn II(Kaiser) is released, the only touch-flo enabled phone that can be bought off the shelf is HTC Touch.
So all cooked ROMs for Artemis, Wizard.....that include touchflo, must include touchflo dlls extracted from HTC Touch ROM.
Then, my understanding is that, as these touch-flo ROM do actually run on devices other than HTC Touch, the dll´s needed must be not so "device specific" but (more or less) generic for QVGA devices without graphics processor (or at least for OMAP 200 devices).
maybe its not only touch dll, but also other files which have to be replaced by files from HTC Touch.
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
c_shekhar said:
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
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There a number of ROMs that include TouchFlo in Prophet, Artemis n Wizard xda-dev forums.
i dont know how to extract specific files from a ROM file, nor which files are flo-related files, and have to be extracted.
Surely the cookers of those ROMs can advise and even provide the Flo files.
sirgawain123 said:
There a number of ROMs that include TouchFlo in Prophet, Artemis n Wizard xda-dev forums.
i dont know how to extract specific files from a ROM file, nor which files are flo-related files, and have to be extracted.
Surely the cookers of those ROMs can advise and even provide the Flo files.
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look in the wizard WM6 forum, there are several kitchen roms and links to OEM packs with all the touch stuf thats needed.
I agree ,
i dont understand why is not possible to make one application just to touchflo,
let´s take some examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
this stops, but i test and works, only whid some bugs, and is not reali a touchflo
http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php
this one makes touchflo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325223&highlight=iphone+media+player
this one is touchflo application
icontacts is a touchflo application
so...i dont understand why is not possible to make a touchflo cab
i have all this aplications in a s200 wm5!
Marcos200 said:
i dont understand why is not possible to make one application just to touchflo,
let´s take some examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
this stops, but i test and works, only whid some bugs, and is not reali a touchflo
http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php
this one makes touchflo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325223&highlight=iphone+media+player
this one is touchflo application
icontacts is a touchflo application
so...i dont understand why is not possible to make a touchflo cab
i have all this aplications in a s200 wm5!
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touchflo requires Touch.dll, and Touch.dll is not an application. Itz part of the OS which is device dependent. Unless someone writes a fully working touchflo cube, managed to remove the current touch.dll with his own dll, then it is portable from device to device.
c_shekhar said:
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
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Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
The_hesham said:
Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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funny thread in the sense some pple is asking the same again and again.
I would summarize state of art as follows:
-Some ROMs with Touch flo have been developed by forum members for devices other than HTC Touch.
-Touch flo files are available for those who want to cook their own ROM, at least for OMAP devices.
- As today,Touch flo files can not be installed in a device over an existing ROM because installation can not overwrite certain files as they are in use by the system.
Workaround (Yet To be made)would be an installation routine that unloads files to be replaced, and loads touchflo ones. This routine should be performed after every reset, as resets reloads the files from original ROM.
Here are a bunch of cabs to give you the look of the Touch but these won't give you the finger scroll feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
I personnally don't care for the eye candy on my wizard, but like the touch driver that lets me finger scroll. The OEM packs I've seen bundle this driver with the today plug-in, but there's just a few files specific to the touch driver that can be separated out from the today plug-in.
jorge_culv said:
Here are a bunch of cabs to give you the look of the Touch but these won't give you the finger scroll feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
I personnally don't care for the eye candy on my wizard, but like the touch driver that lets me finger scroll. The OEM packs I've seen bundle this driver with the today plug-in, but there's just a few files specific to the touch driver that can be separated out from the today plug-in.
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to get fingerscrolling you'll only need the touch.dll not othere file or regestry setting but somehow it doesn't seem to work for all devices. I don't know why... if it just can't work or no one figured it out yet?
The_hesham said:
Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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No it does not help.....
Is there any Hermes ROM cooked with TocuhFlo?
Gullum , i need help, please.
Gullum,
thnks for the very profecional good work, in all app, roms, foruns, etc.
one question,
i dont need flash my prophet (S200 pt), but i use all the finger friendly applications that we have in xda.
i looveeee the finger scroll applications.
but i have now 1.5 years waranty, and i dont need flash.
just the scrolling feature, the touch.dll, like you say, but i dont now how i need to just install that in my wm5 rom in portuguese.
is there a solution?? a cab, or just put oem files and replace the ones that i have. i use the touchnav application, but i need more, also use the very best iContact v3, but i need finguer scroll in all applications, like the touch
Thanks in advance,
Hallo every body.....
anyone help me where i can found HTC TweakUI....
Hi,
I am also searching... anyone an idea?
IsiT_de...
Hello every one..your search is over..i downloaded the TytnII rom..from that i got the Htc Tweak UI
There are two files attached..first one is the CAB and the second one is the OEM package for ROM Cookers (xtrude )
ather90 said:
Hello every one..your search is over..i downloaded the TytnII rom..from that i got the Htc Tweak UI
There are two files attached..first one is the CAB and the second one is the OEM package for ROM Cookers (xtrude )
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Big Thank Ather....
I will download...
Hi my friend,
I 'm searching the White htc comm manager for the HTC Touch !
So, in QVGA, of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402012
Anyone have this CommManager for HTC Touch ?
Great thanks
The latest PDA Viet ROM has that one.
Thanks;
But these rom are protected, if i extract this rom, i cannot take the OEM CommManager in order to integrate on my rom
Hi Nixeus, since i only cook in 0816_Lang, i send u this file with 0816 files, u just replace with proper mui files.
Cheers
Thanks a lot my friend
I have test your oem on my phone, and i have a little problem :
I don't have ANY TEXT , and i don't have the menu on the bottom with "exit" and "settings"
Could you help me ?
Great thanks
Nixeus said:
I have test your oem on my phone, and i have a little problem :
I don't have ANY TEXT , and i don't have the menu on the bottom with "exit" and "settings"
Could you help me ?
Great thanks
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try this OEM package for diamond comm manager.
Thanks for your help, but the problem is the same !
No text, and no menu
Any idea ??? ( i'm usine HTC TOuch( ELF ! ) ) on wm6.1 !
Thanks a lot !
Nixeus said:
Thanks for your help, but the problem is the same !
No text, and no menu
Any idea ??? ( i'm usine HTC TOuch( ELF ! ) ) on wm6.1 !
Thanks a lot !
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i am using the above OEM package for more than a month and it works great on my Elfin. thats all i can say
Nixeus said:
Thanks for your help, but the problem is the same !
No text, and no menu
Any idea ??? ( i'm usine HTC TOuch( ELF ! ) ) on wm6.1 !
Thanks a lot !
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You have to copy the files to the windows directory and overwrite the existing files.
First I placed the directory on the device and linked to the program and then I had the same problem.
But since I overwrited the original files it works like it should.
Do you have an oem which it function ?
GForce said:
You have to copy the files to the windows directory and overwrite the existing files.
First I placed the directory on the device and linked to the program and then I had the same problem.
But since I overwrited the original files it works like it should.
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As if I copy the files are protected
won't work for me too on my elfin
worked on my elfin (T-mobile) while in HTCTOUCHP v1.2 ROM
whether "vibrate" indicator wouldn't turn off
GForce said:
You have to copy the files to the windows directory and overwrite the existing files.
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But there comes an error, that the files can't overwritten.
//Edit: This post helps...
Hi , i saw at raphael rom's and there are a rom with the new manila .
Where can i find a Cab , Oem or rom for diamond ?
Can i flash my diamond with a raphael rom ?
thanks
Sorry by my bad english , because i'm from brazil!
GahhTheBig said:
Hi , i saw at raphael rom's and there are a rom with the new manila .
Where can i find a Cab , Oem or rom for diamond ?
Can i flash my diamond with a raphael rom ?
thanks
Sorry by my bad english , because i'm from brazil!
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Unless you want to brick your phone then yeah
oh , ok .
But how can i extract the OEM package or a cab , from a raphael rom ? It is possible ?
thanks
short answer: no
longer answer:
well, basically it IS possible. BUT: there are i think two or more developer groups trying to port Manilla 2.5 to VGA and i also think there is some success but it's far from being stable and useable.
Believe me, there are many people waiting for this, but that's all we can do for now. If you want to do something else, support these devs, but it's useless to start this again and again.
Just copying OEMs won't work, coz Manilla, especially 2.5 uses a LOT of files and programs.
I saw the preview about Manila 2.5 , and look forward to becoming more and more. But I know that maybe impossible for diamond. So what I can do is just waiting for the developer
HTC Diamond-User said:
hi i have found an Documents Tab as Cab .
But its still in WVGA, i have test it and it runs fine on my Diamond with Sense 2.5
Now I´m searching for people there wants to help me to port it to VGA.
This cab is for english and German Language..
http://download.diamond-projects.de/HD2O_Doctab_eReader_1.XX.rar
Un-rar it first
Diamond_user
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HELP!!!
I installed it, now i can't find it to uninstall!
It doesn't work on my device (Touch pro 2 with sense 2.5)
Now i want to remove it but i can't find it.
Could someone help me please??
Thanks in advance! Tom
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Settings >> System >> remove programs
No, like i said, i want to remove it but couldn't find it
But it is not necessary anymore cause i installed a new rom
If you installed a new rom then it was erased. Whenever you hard reset or install a new rom then everything you installed previously and all settings are erased.
I know, that's what i mentioned
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